Wales' potholes will take '12 years to fill'

South Wales Argus: Wales potholes will take '12 years to fill' Wales potholes will take '12 years to fill'

IT could take Welsh councils 12 years to clear a maintenance backlog of potholes and road improvements, according to a nationwide survey published this morning.

Torfaen council said yesterday it has a pothole backlog worth £3 million but only £1 million in its budget to spend, ahead of today’s publication of the annual survey by the Asphalt Industry Alliance (AIA).

It revealed councils across Wales have an estimated £62.7 million budget shortfall when it comes to road maintenance - up from £2 million in the 2013 survey.

But only 15 Welsh authorities, including Blaenau Gwent, Caerphilly and Newport, responded to this year's survey, which claimed that with 20,933 miles of Welsh roads to look after, it would cost each Welsh council £20 million to "catch up" and clear the backlog in one fell swoop.

According to the AIA Monmouthshire and Torfaen did not respond.

The figure across the whole of the UK amounts to £12 billion to get roads into a reasonable condition, according to the AIA.

On average 6,730 potholes were filled over the last year per Welsh council at a cost of £52 per pothole.

Unforeseen additional costs this year - such as bad weather - cost affected authorities around £336,667, the report estimates.

A pothole is a break-up in the surface of the road, created when the top layer of tarmac wears away or breaks apart.

Bad weather, particularly wet or freezing conditions, can accelerate the process as water gets beneath the top layer of tarmac, freezes, expands or erodes the layer beneath.

Torfaen council said every reported pothole is investigated and its size, depth and location of the hole is considered, as well as the speed limit on the road and the amount of traffic.

If the pothole is considered a danger they aim to repair it within two hours, or if it exceeds 40mm in depth, it will be added to their list of scheduled works.

During the cold winter of 2012/13 they received 1,026 reports and of those, 726 were considered dangerous, compared to 345 urgent repairs in 2013/14.

The council has three teams of two highways operatives dedicated to repairing potholes, and can fill anything from 20 to 60 per day.

The Argus has asked to see figures from the other four Gwent authorities.

We want you to tell us about potholes in roads near you. Send us a picture of your pothole telling us where you took it and who you are. We will then build a map of potholes across Gwent and find out where the pothole hotspots are.

You can e-mail your pictures or tweet them @southwalesargus

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3:16pm Thu 3 Apr 14

arjwain says...

well ill pay road tax when you fix them .potholes and road humps .what a country .and we pay .
well ill pay road tax when you fix them .potholes and road humps .what a country .and we pay . arjwain
  • Score: 2

3:48pm Thu 3 Apr 14

-trigg- says...

Every time you see a pothole report it. Every time your car or bike is damaged after driving over a pothole, claim the cost of repairs from the council. If you're injured you could even speak to one of the ambulance chasing firms, much as that pains me.

The only way we'll get any action on this sort of thing is if it costs the council more to ignore it than it would to sort the problem out.
Every time you see a pothole report it. Every time your car or bike is damaged after driving over a pothole, claim the cost of repairs from the council. If you're injured you could even speak to one of the ambulance chasing firms, much as that pains me. The only way we'll get any action on this sort of thing is if it costs the council more to ignore it than it would to sort the problem out. -trigg-
  • Score: 6

3:58pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Explainitplease says...

Meanwhile Torfaen have just spend god knows how much "improving" Llantarnam Road turning into Oakfield, meaning there is no dedicated lane for turning right, causing more traffic congestion, and adding random bits of concrete to the car parks next the river/football fields essentially meaning less cars can park there!
I was all impressed with the improvement to the walkway on the Llanyravon side of the river until someone told me it was owned by the Water Board not Torfaen!
Apparently they don't have any money though.
Meanwhile Torfaen have just spend god knows how much "improving" Llantarnam Road turning into Oakfield, meaning there is no dedicated lane for turning right, causing more traffic congestion, and adding random bits of concrete to the car parks next the river/football fields essentially meaning less cars can park there! I was all impressed with the improvement to the walkway on the Llanyravon side of the river until someone told me it was owned by the Water Board not Torfaen! Apparently they don't have any money though. Explainitplease
  • Score: 2

4:02pm Thu 3 Apr 14

keithbob says...

£52 per pothole!,for a bit of tarmac thrown in off a shovel.road tax why???
£52 per pothole!,for a bit of tarmac thrown in off a shovel.road tax why??? keithbob
  • Score: 1

4:45pm Thu 3 Apr 14

ex-St. Julians boy says...

Well if it's going to take 12 years, best they get started right now. I want to see every Welsh councillor out on their local roads with a big pile of steaming asphalt and a shovel in their hands first thing tomorrow morning ... 6 o'clock sharp!
Well if it's going to take 12 years, best they get started right now. I want to see every Welsh councillor out on their local roads with a big pile of steaming asphalt and a shovel in their hands first thing tomorrow morning ... 6 o'clock sharp! ex-St. Julians boy
  • Score: 7

5:42pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Lazysaint says...

Might take a bit longer now HAVs and all that !
Might take a bit longer now HAVs and all that ! Lazysaint
  • Score: -2

5:45pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Ceffyl says...

arjwain wrote:
well ill pay road tax when you fix them .potholes and road humps .what a country .and we pay .
There's no such thing as road tax.
[quote][p][bold]arjwain[/bold] wrote: well ill pay road tax when you fix them .potholes and road humps .what a country .and we pay .[/p][/quote]There's no such thing as road tax. Ceffyl
  • Score: 2

8:05pm Thu 3 Apr 14

Mike0408 says...

if i could, i would refuse to pay road tax (as they are not giving us the service we pay for), but no tax=no car, so i cant refuse to pay for it and they know that. lucky for THEM my car has not been damaged by any pot holes yet (that i know off)

12 years seems a bit of an over reaction In My Opinion, but i am no expert.

if they plan it right, this could be done faster and with much less disruption to traffic.

in city centers and roads away from houses, do an very early start (say 4am) i am guessing it will take an hour to do, then another few hours for it to be safe for vehicles to drive over. as for roads near houses, start at 7am sharp and the residents will just have to put up with is as it will be for the best, when they done with 1 street move on to the next street instead of calling it a day. i am assuming they have enough staff to do several streets at a time as well.

if they only have £1 million for the roads, THEN USE IT NOW instead of thinking ''we don't have enough to do it all so why bother'' then next year you get more funding for it, then use that funding to do more.

oh and if it will take 12 years then get started NOW and not in a years time or it will still take 12 years (or more)
if i could, i would refuse to pay road tax (as they are not giving us the service we pay for), but no tax=no car, so i cant refuse to pay for it and they know that. lucky for THEM my car has not been damaged by any pot holes yet (that i know off) 12 years seems a bit of an over reaction In My Opinion, but i am no expert. if they plan it right, this could be done faster and with much less disruption to traffic. in city centers and roads away from houses, do an very early start (say 4am) i am guessing it will take an hour to do, then another few hours for it to be safe for vehicles to drive over. as for roads near houses, start at 7am sharp and the residents will just have to put up with is as it will be for the best, when they done with 1 street move on to the next street instead of calling it a day. i am assuming they have enough staff to do several streets at a time as well. if they only have £1 million for the roads, THEN USE IT NOW instead of thinking ''we don't have enough to do it all so why bother'' then next year you get more funding for it, then use that funding to do more. oh and if it will take 12 years then get started NOW and not in a years time or it will still take 12 years (or more) Mike0408
  • Score: 1

7:37am Fri 4 Apr 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Ceffyl wrote:
arjwain wrote:
well ill pay road tax when you fix them .potholes and road humps .what a country .and we pay .
There's no such thing as road tax.
Ah the preferred by Gordon Brown stealth tax theory of calling it something else 'road fund' even though (a) it's compulsory (b) it ends up in government coffers. Are you suggesting the £400 I just paid for my car was a charitable donation? When is a 'licence' or a 'duty' not a tax?
[quote][p][bold]Ceffyl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arjwain[/bold] wrote: well ill pay road tax when you fix them .potholes and road humps .what a country .and we pay .[/p][/quote]There's no such thing as road tax.[/p][/quote]Ah the preferred by Gordon Brown stealth tax theory of calling it something else 'road fund' even though (a) it's compulsory (b) it ends up in government coffers. Are you suggesting the £400 I just paid for my car was a charitable donation? When is a 'licence' or a 'duty' not a tax? Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 3

9:01am Fri 4 Apr 14

Poolerkev says...

-trigg- wrote:
Every time you see a pothole report it. Every time your car or bike is damaged after driving over a pothole, claim the cost of repairs from the council. If you're injured you could even speak to one of the ambulance chasing firms, much as that pains me.

The only way we'll get any action on this sort of thing is if it costs the council more to ignore it than it would to sort the problem out.
You miss the point... Westminster gets the car tax cash and local councils get the expense of fixing the potholes. As for being injured by driving through a pothole? With that mentality no wonder my car insurance premiums are so high and increase each year. The blame mentality and claim culture costs us more than a new tyre.
[quote][p][bold]-trigg-[/bold] wrote: Every time you see a pothole report it. Every time your car or bike is damaged after driving over a pothole, claim the cost of repairs from the council. If you're injured you could even speak to one of the ambulance chasing firms, much as that pains me. The only way we'll get any action on this sort of thing is if it costs the council more to ignore it than it would to sort the problem out.[/p][/quote]You miss the point... Westminster gets the car tax cash and local councils get the expense of fixing the potholes. As for being injured by driving through a pothole? With that mentality no wonder my car insurance premiums are so high and increase each year. The blame mentality and claim culture costs us more than a new tyre. Poolerkev
  • Score: -1

6:22am Thu 10 Apr 14

ExNewport says...

Ceffyl wrote:
arjwain wrote:
well ill pay road tax when you fix them .potholes and road humps .what a country .and we pay .
There's no such thing as road tax.
This is true.
[quote][p][bold]Ceffyl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arjwain[/bold] wrote: well ill pay road tax when you fix them .potholes and road humps .what a country .and we pay .[/p][/quote]There's no such thing as road tax.[/p][/quote]This is true. ExNewport
  • Score: 0

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