£250m pumped in to transform Newport city centre

South Wales Argus: LATEST LOOK: A new artist’s impression of the Friars Walk development in Newport LATEST LOOK: A new artist’s impression of the Friars Walk development in Newport

AROUND £250 million of investment is currently being spent in transforming Newport city centre – and the pace of change is speeding up, traders and business leaders were told last night.

The first steel frames for the buildings on the Friars Walk retail development are being erected, and work will begin soon on projects to renovate buildings above shop floor levels, for city centre housing.

Around 40 traders and business leaders attended the launch of the headquarters of the Business Improvement District (BID) project for Newport, a business-led and funded body that, if approved through a vote next autumn, would help drive further city centre improvements.

Martin Tresidder, development manager for Queensberry Real Estate, which is creating Friars Walk, told those present that marketing the project is not just about the shops, but about the city.

“We all know Newport has had some really hard times, but it is changing for the better and people are starting to believe it,” he said.

Friars Walk – for which the council has loaned Queensberry £90 million – has been a long time coming.

It is a previous victim of economic downturn which delayed the new retail development for several years, and scepticism has been high.

“Within the last two weeks, I have been asked “is it still happening?”,” said Mr Tresidder.

“We are clearing eight acres of real estate, working on groundworks, earthworks and foundations. Steel frames of buildings are beginning to go up. Soon most people will believe we are actually building the thing.

“We are pushing hard on a very big construction project.”

Julie Vellucci, city council head of regeneration and regulatory services, spoke about projects that have been completed, are ongoing, and that will begin soon.

Early this year, Newport received a £15 million grant from the Welsh Government through the Vibrant and Viable Places programme, designed to drive housing-led regeneration in towns and cities.

“That was the largest award in Wales, and is part of a £60 million programme which is also designed to attract significant private investment,” she said.

Such projects are helping to transform town and city centres across the UK.

The hub of the project is the reconnection of Commercial Street with the top of Pill, but projects soon to be started include the transformation of a long-vacant building on Cardiff Road into 15 flats, a residential development in the building around the Commercial Street entrance to the Park Square car park, and a major residential development on floors above the Principality Building Society at the bottom of High Street.

“A lot is happening or about to happen. There is £250 million being spent in the city centre, and that is only schemes that the council are delivering or have a link with,” she said.

Alan Edwards, chairman of the BID steering group, said those involved “hope a BID will help transform the city”.

“There is a new shopping centre coming, bringing more businesses, and hopefully they will get involved,” he said.

“We are looking for a successful vote in November (businesses can vote on a BID proposal or business plan for the area), so we can form a limited company.

“We want to make sure the city will move forward and modernise, and we want to be part of that process.”

 

 

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9:53am Fri 20 Jun 14

Welshlady11 says...

Yayyyyy! Positive news, will look foward to seeing Newport thriving again :)
Yayyyyy! Positive news, will look foward to seeing Newport thriving again :) Welshlady11
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10:07am Fri 20 Jun 14

Severn40 says...

Yes it is good news but where has this £250m figure come from? But Friars Walk = £90m + £60m (potential) Vibrant Places equals £150m. Add other bits I suppose including Admiral £12m? You are getting towards £200m. May be just £50m out...
Yes it is good news but where has this £250m figure come from? But Friars Walk = £90m + £60m (potential) Vibrant Places equals £150m. Add other bits I suppose including Admiral £12m? You are getting towards £200m. May be just £50m out... Severn40
  • Score: 11

10:08am Fri 20 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

Welshlady11 wrote:
Yayyyyy! Positive news, will look foward to seeing Newport thriving again :)
Most definitely. too long Newport City Centre has been depressed form to long. I look forward to the new development at Friars Walk and the other areas of regeneration.
We must also not lose sight of the fact that it is not just the buildings and businesses which need care and supervision. The Council and the police should have a big push alongside whatever charities are available to deal with the groups of alcoholics and drug users who maintain a prescence in various areas most days. Gilligans Island ( or Mariners Green as it's now called ) has always had a group of dependents in place.
But now these groups are all over from Belle Vue Park, along Cardiff Road outside RGH, various places through the centre, around Old Green and Clarence Place and anywhere along the river. What is the point of a river route for walking and cycling when you have to contend with bodies laying around unconscious or never knowing what is around the corner. I stopped taking my children for rides down there which is a pity. Bristol was horrendous to walk around with beggars everywhere until they sorted it out a few years ago. Come on NCC. Make the streets safe for us Newport residents who want to use the Cities facilities without fear for our safety.
[quote][p][bold]Welshlady11[/bold] wrote: Yayyyyy! Positive news, will look foward to seeing Newport thriving again :)[/p][/quote]Most definitely. too long Newport City Centre has been depressed form to long. I look forward to the new development at Friars Walk and the other areas of regeneration. We must also not lose sight of the fact that it is not just the buildings and businesses which need care and supervision. The Council and the police should have a big push alongside whatever charities are available to deal with the groups of alcoholics and drug users who maintain a prescence in various areas most days. Gilligans Island ( or Mariners Green as it's now called ) has always had a group of dependents in place. But now these groups are all over from Belle Vue Park, along Cardiff Road outside RGH, various places through the centre, around Old Green and Clarence Place and anywhere along the river. What is the point of a river route for walking and cycling when you have to contend with bodies laying around unconscious or never knowing what is around the corner. I stopped taking my children for rides down there which is a pity. Bristol was horrendous to walk around with beggars everywhere until they sorted it out a few years ago. Come on NCC. Make the streets safe for us Newport residents who want to use the Cities facilities without fear for our safety. landyman3030
  • Score: 88

10:25am Fri 20 Jun 14

nodnyl says...

landyman3030 wrote:
Welshlady11 wrote:
Yayyyyy! Positive news, will look foward to seeing Newport thriving again :)
Most definitely. too long Newport City Centre has been depressed form to long. I look forward to the new development at Friars Walk and the other areas of regeneration.
We must also not lose sight of the fact that it is not just the buildings and businesses which need care and supervision. The Council and the police should have a big push alongside whatever charities are available to deal with the groups of alcoholics and drug users who maintain a prescence in various areas most days. Gilligans Island ( or Mariners Green as it's now called ) has always had a group of dependents in place.
But now these groups are all over from Belle Vue Park, along Cardiff Road outside RGH, various places through the centre, around Old Green and Clarence Place and anywhere along the river. What is the point of a river route for walking and cycling when you have to contend with bodies laying around unconscious or never knowing what is around the corner. I stopped taking my children for rides down there which is a pity. Bristol was horrendous to walk around with beggars everywhere until they sorted it out a few years ago. Come on NCC. Make the streets safe for us Newport residents who want to use the Cities facilities without fear for our safety.
Could not have put it better !!!!
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welshlady11[/bold] wrote: Yayyyyy! Positive news, will look foward to seeing Newport thriving again :)[/p][/quote]Most definitely. too long Newport City Centre has been depressed form to long. I look forward to the new development at Friars Walk and the other areas of regeneration. We must also not lose sight of the fact that it is not just the buildings and businesses which need care and supervision. The Council and the police should have a big push alongside whatever charities are available to deal with the groups of alcoholics and drug users who maintain a prescence in various areas most days. Gilligans Island ( or Mariners Green as it's now called ) has always had a group of dependents in place. But now these groups are all over from Belle Vue Park, along Cardiff Road outside RGH, various places through the centre, around Old Green and Clarence Place and anywhere along the river. What is the point of a river route for walking and cycling when you have to contend with bodies laying around unconscious or never knowing what is around the corner. I stopped taking my children for rides down there which is a pity. Bristol was horrendous to walk around with beggars everywhere until they sorted it out a few years ago. Come on NCC. Make the streets safe for us Newport residents who want to use the Cities facilities without fear for our safety.[/p][/quote]Could not have put it better !!!! nodnyl
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10:34am Fri 20 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

I walked thro Newport's main (drunk filled) drag yesterday at lunchtime and thought..."The Gates of Hell"...NEVER again. WHO needs it.
I walked thro Newport's main (drunk filled) drag yesterday at lunchtime and thought..."The Gates of Hell"...NEVER again. WHO needs it. KarloMarko
  • Score: -43

10:42am Fri 20 Jun 14

skipbifferty says...

I will tell you where they should pump some money into, Chepstow Road. It is like down-town Islamabad, it is filthy. The whole length is an eye-sore with bins and rubbish strew all over it. If the councillors were to give-up their expenses for a year, they could employ people too clean it up. Fat chance tho!
I will tell you where they should pump some money into, Chepstow Road. It is like down-town Islamabad, it is filthy. The whole length is an eye-sore with bins and rubbish strew all over it. If the councillors were to give-up their expenses for a year, they could employ people too clean it up. Fat chance tho! skipbifferty
  • Score: 36

10:44am Fri 20 Jun 14

bucks says...

Thats an impressive amount of money but as has been said, needs more accountability to the people of Newport - a specific breakdown of what has been spent/committed to particular projects. A 390m loan to the Friars Square developer sounds very risky, but if that was the deal-maker then hopefully a worthwhile risk.

The critical issue now is to control and rid the city centre of the parasites that plague it. Perhaps redeploy wardens from 'litter monitor' duties at beauty spots and get them into the City centre to target the real social issues.

And force Gwent police to take action, make them earn their Council Tax budget on things that the people of Newport want, not the easy targets that the Chief Constable and the Police Commissioner want.
Thats an impressive amount of money but as has been said, needs more accountability to the people of Newport - a specific breakdown of what has been spent/committed to particular projects. A 390m loan to the Friars Square developer sounds very risky, but if that was the deal-maker then hopefully a worthwhile risk. The critical issue now is to control and rid the city centre of the parasites that plague it. Perhaps redeploy wardens from 'litter monitor' duties at beauty spots and get them into the City centre to target the real social issues. And force Gwent police to take action, make them earn their Council Tax budget on things that the people of Newport want, not the easy targets that the Chief Constable and the Police Commissioner want. bucks
  • Score: 17

10:45am Fri 20 Jun 14

bucks says...

bucks wrote:
Thats an impressive amount of money but as has been said, needs more accountability to the people of Newport - a specific breakdown of what has been spent/committed to particular projects. A 390m loan to the Friars Square developer sounds very risky, but if that was the deal-maker then hopefully a worthwhile risk.

The critical issue now is to control and rid the city centre of the parasites that plague it. Perhaps redeploy wardens from 'litter monitor' duties at beauty spots and get them into the City centre to target the real social issues.

And force Gwent police to take action, make them earn their Council Tax budget on things that the people of Newport want, not the easy targets that the Chief Constable and the Police Commissioner want.
***£90m loan***
[quote][p][bold]bucks[/bold] wrote: Thats an impressive amount of money but as has been said, needs more accountability to the people of Newport - a specific breakdown of what has been spent/committed to particular projects. A 390m loan to the Friars Square developer sounds very risky, but if that was the deal-maker then hopefully a worthwhile risk. The critical issue now is to control and rid the city centre of the parasites that plague it. Perhaps redeploy wardens from 'litter monitor' duties at beauty spots and get them into the City centre to target the real social issues. And force Gwent police to take action, make them earn their Council Tax budget on things that the people of Newport want, not the easy targets that the Chief Constable and the Police Commissioner want.[/p][/quote]***£90m loan*** bucks
  • Score: 0

10:49am Fri 20 Jun 14

Severn40 says...

The investment is certainly welcome and long overdue. But as other postings have alluded to, there is also the issue of maintenance and ensuring things are well kept. Have a wander around the market and look at the new paving that has been laid. Already it is covered in gum and it seems the council is not jet spraying the area. In some cases, the paving stones have cracked and been replaced by ugly tarmac. This lack of attention to detail by the Council is worrying and if it continues to go unchecked is likely to lead more disrepair.
The investment is certainly welcome and long overdue. But as other postings have alluded to, there is also the issue of maintenance and ensuring things are well kept. Have a wander around the market and look at the new paving that has been laid. Already it is covered in gum and it seems the council is not jet spraying the area. In some cases, the paving stones have cracked and been replaced by ugly tarmac. This lack of attention to detail by the Council is worrying and if it continues to go unchecked is likely to lead more disrepair. Severn40
  • Score: 28

11:02am Fri 20 Jun 14

cath 872 says...

Are these residential buildings going to the private sector or social housing?Does anybody know?/
Are these residential buildings going to the private sector or social housing?Does anybody know?/ cath 872
  • Score: 2

11:17am Fri 20 Jun 14

Llanmartinangel says...

landyman3030 wrote:
Welshlady11 wrote:
Yayyyyy! Positive news, will look foward to seeing Newport thriving again :)
Most definitely. too long Newport City Centre has been depressed form to long. I look forward to the new development at Friars Walk and the other areas of regeneration.
We must also not lose sight of the fact that it is not just the buildings and businesses which need care and supervision. The Council and the police should have a big push alongside whatever charities are available to deal with the groups of alcoholics and drug users who maintain a prescence in various areas most days. Gilligans Island ( or Mariners Green as it's now called ) has always had a group of dependents in place.
But now these groups are all over from Belle Vue Park, along Cardiff Road outside RGH, various places through the centre, around Old Green and Clarence Place and anywhere along the river. What is the point of a river route for walking and cycling when you have to contend with bodies laying around unconscious or never knowing what is around the corner. I stopped taking my children for rides down there which is a pity. Bristol was horrendous to walk around with beggars everywhere until they sorted it out a few years ago. Come on NCC. Make the streets safe for us Newport residents who want to use the Cities facilities without fear for our safety.
Great post. I'd love Newport to recover but until the area is reclaimed by civilised people it will remain the intimidating place it is at present.
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welshlady11[/bold] wrote: Yayyyyy! Positive news, will look foward to seeing Newport thriving again :)[/p][/quote]Most definitely. too long Newport City Centre has been depressed form to long. I look forward to the new development at Friars Walk and the other areas of regeneration. We must also not lose sight of the fact that it is not just the buildings and businesses which need care and supervision. The Council and the police should have a big push alongside whatever charities are available to deal with the groups of alcoholics and drug users who maintain a prescence in various areas most days. Gilligans Island ( or Mariners Green as it's now called ) has always had a group of dependents in place. But now these groups are all over from Belle Vue Park, along Cardiff Road outside RGH, various places through the centre, around Old Green and Clarence Place and anywhere along the river. What is the point of a river route for walking and cycling when you have to contend with bodies laying around unconscious or never knowing what is around the corner. I stopped taking my children for rides down there which is a pity. Bristol was horrendous to walk around with beggars everywhere until they sorted it out a few years ago. Come on NCC. Make the streets safe for us Newport residents who want to use the Cities facilities without fear for our safety.[/p][/quote]Great post. I'd love Newport to recover but until the area is reclaimed by civilised people it will remain the intimidating place it is at present. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 19

11:40am Fri 20 Jun 14

Sing up for the amber boys says...

KarloMarko wrote:
I walked thro Newport's main (drunk filled) drag yesterday at lunchtime and thought..."The Gates of Hell"...NEVER again. WHO needs it.
Oh, grow up will you
[quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: I walked thro Newport's main (drunk filled) drag yesterday at lunchtime and thought..."The Gates of Hell"...NEVER again. WHO needs it.[/p][/quote]Oh, grow up will you Sing up for the amber boys
  • Score: 31

11:43am Fri 20 Jun 14

Sing up for the amber boys says...

bucks wrote:
Thats an impressive amount of money but as has been said, needs more accountability to the people of Newport - a specific breakdown of what has been spent/committed to particular projects. A 390m loan to the Friars Square developer sounds very risky, but if that was the deal-maker then hopefully a worthwhile risk. The critical issue now is to control and rid the city centre of the parasites that plague it. Perhaps redeploy wardens from 'litter monitor' duties at beauty spots and get them into the City centre to target the real social issues. And force Gwent police to take action, make them earn their Council Tax budget on things that the people of Newport want, not the easy targets that the Chief Constable and the Police Commissioner want.
Sorry, but I think litter IS a real social issue
[quote][p][bold]bucks[/bold] wrote: Thats an impressive amount of money but as has been said, needs more accountability to the people of Newport - a specific breakdown of what has been spent/committed to particular projects. A 390m loan to the Friars Square developer sounds very risky, but if that was the deal-maker then hopefully a worthwhile risk. The critical issue now is to control and rid the city centre of the parasites that plague it. Perhaps redeploy wardens from 'litter monitor' duties at beauty spots and get them into the City centre to target the real social issues. And force Gwent police to take action, make them earn their Council Tax budget on things that the people of Newport want, not the easy targets that the Chief Constable and the Police Commissioner want.[/p][/quote]Sorry, but I think litter IS a real social issue Sing up for the amber boys
  • Score: 9

11:58am Fri 20 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

"Grown up" enough. I went into Newport yesterday to buy a new 3 mobile phone. There were drunks when I got off the bus, drunks outside the market, drunks outside BHS...and that hell hole of a freak show outside Cash Converters. I said "Sod it", kept my £200 in my pocket and this morning bought my phone off the net. No drunks, five minutes flat. YOU choose the "shopping experience". Good luck.
"Grown up" enough. I went into Newport yesterday to buy a new 3 mobile phone. There were drunks when I got off the bus, drunks outside the market, drunks outside BHS...and that hell hole of a freak show outside Cash Converters. I said "Sod it", kept my £200 in my pocket and this morning bought my phone off the net. No drunks, five minutes flat. YOU choose the "shopping experience". Good luck. KarloMarko
  • Score: -15

12:12pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Llanmartinangel says...

KarloMarko wrote:
"Grown up" enough. I went into Newport yesterday to buy a new 3 mobile phone. There were drunks when I got off the bus, drunks outside the market, drunks outside BHS...and that hell hole of a freak show outside Cash Converters. I said "Sod it", kept my £200 in my pocket and this morning bought my phone off the net. No drunks, five minutes flat. YOU choose the "shopping experience". Good luck.
I took my elderly mum to the opticians recently and I can most certainly believe every word of that. It was not funny.
[quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: "Grown up" enough. I went into Newport yesterday to buy a new 3 mobile phone. There were drunks when I got off the bus, drunks outside the market, drunks outside BHS...and that hell hole of a freak show outside Cash Converters. I said "Sod it", kept my £200 in my pocket and this morning bought my phone off the net. No drunks, five minutes flat. YOU choose the "shopping experience". Good luck.[/p][/quote]I took my elderly mum to the opticians recently and I can most certainly believe every word of that. It was not funny. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: -3

12:45pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Ceffyl says...

Unless this investment includes more (and free) parking in the city centre, people will sill choose to go to the retails parks or Cwmbran. I'd like to say I'm confident the Council have thought of this, but I can't.
Unless this investment includes more (and free) parking in the city centre, people will sill choose to go to the retails parks or Cwmbran. I'd like to say I'm confident the Council have thought of this, but I can't. Ceffyl
  • Score: 7

1:26pm Fri 20 Jun 14

wenstef says...

the main reason I no longer go into Newport is because of the lack of car parking available without having to walk a long way from where I need to go. being disabled this is most important, you can argue that there are car parks dotted around but these are very often full , to encourage more people into the town center they need more car parking preferably free.
also I was forever being approached by street sellers i.e. either broadband, or have you had an accident in the last 5 years, they were everywhere.
it is all very well spending money on shops but to be able to shop you need to park your car. I will now go anywhere where there is easy parking rather than Newport. to call it a city is an embarrassment
the main reason I no longer go into Newport is because of the lack of car parking available without having to walk a long way from where I need to go. being disabled this is most important, you can argue that there are car parks dotted around but these are very often full , to encourage more people into the town center they need more car parking preferably free. also I was forever being approached by street sellers i.e. either broadband, or have you had an accident in the last 5 years, they were everywhere. it is all very well spending money on shops but to be able to shop you need to park your car. I will now go anywhere where there is easy parking rather than Newport. to call it a city is an embarrassment wenstef
  • Score: 12

1:36pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Aquarius says...

"We should all be far more positive" - I Think that's what all these self interested politicians are telling us (not being patronising at all). Why, Ed Balls is claiming today that Wales is "leading the recovery"!!!!

What absolute garbage. What's happening in Newport is good, and hopefully in time the benefits will be felt more widely.

But for Ed Balls to try and bolster a fairly useless and cynical Welsh Government (and I say that as a former Labour voter...but probably not again) by saying that we are leading the 'economic recovery' shows how out of touch these people are. Take a look at the rest of Wales outside of Cardiff, you idiot.
"We should all be far more positive" - I Think that's what all these self interested politicians are telling us (not being patronising at all). Why, Ed Balls is claiming today that Wales is "leading the recovery"!!!! What absolute garbage. What's happening in Newport is good, and hopefully in time the benefits will be felt more widely. But for Ed Balls to try and bolster a fairly useless and cynical Welsh Government (and I say that as a former Labour voter...but probably not again) by saying that we are leading the 'economic recovery' shows how out of touch these people are. Take a look at the rest of Wales outside of Cardiff, you idiot. Aquarius
  • Score: 6

1:36pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Stevenboy says...

KarloMarko wrote:
"Grown up" enough. I went into Newport yesterday to buy a new 3 mobile phone. There were drunks when I got off the bus, drunks outside the market, drunks outside BHS...and that hell hole of a freak show outside Cash Converters. I said "Sod it", kept my £200 in my pocket and this morning bought my phone off the net. No drunks, five minutes flat. YOU choose the "shopping experience". Good luck.
I'm trying to figure out if they people voting down that post are either (a) wino fans (b) winos or (c) have never been to Newport. Say what you like but civilised it ain't.
[quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: "Grown up" enough. I went into Newport yesterday to buy a new 3 mobile phone. There were drunks when I got off the bus, drunks outside the market, drunks outside BHS...and that hell hole of a freak show outside Cash Converters. I said "Sod it", kept my £200 in my pocket and this morning bought my phone off the net. No drunks, five minutes flat. YOU choose the "shopping experience". Good luck.[/p][/quote]I'm trying to figure out if they people voting down that post are either (a) wino fans (b) winos or (c) have never been to Newport. Say what you like but civilised it ain't. Stevenboy
  • Score: -10

1:55pm Fri 20 Jun 14

pigbag says...

I spend my lunch time in the city centre most days,and have done for the last twenty years,and these tales of drunks and low life's are very much exaggerated.
It is true that newport has taken a knock back,it is true that many of newports people are struggling to get by,and it is true that with lots of empty shops, and a general lack of care and respect that town is looking a little rough,but stories of legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets are total nonsense.
I spend my lunch time in the city centre most days,and have done for the last twenty years,and these tales of drunks and low life's are very much exaggerated. It is true that newport has taken a knock back,it is true that many of newports people are struggling to get by,and it is true that with lots of empty shops, and a general lack of care and respect that town is looking a little rough,but stories of legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets are total nonsense. pigbag
  • Score: 22

2:11pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Llanmartinangel says...

pigbag wrote:
I spend my lunch time in the city centre most days,and have done for the last twenty years,and these tales of drunks and low life's are very much exaggerated.
It is true that newport has taken a knock back,it is true that many of newports people are struggling to get by,and it is true that with lots of empty shops, and a general lack of care and respect that town is looking a little rough,but stories of legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets are total nonsense.
Isn't that what's known as 'being damned with feint praise'?
[quote][p][bold]pigbag[/bold] wrote: I spend my lunch time in the city centre most days,and have done for the last twenty years,and these tales of drunks and low life's are very much exaggerated. It is true that newport has taken a knock back,it is true that many of newports people are struggling to get by,and it is true that with lots of empty shops, and a general lack of care and respect that town is looking a little rough,but stories of legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets are total nonsense.[/p][/quote]Isn't that what's known as 'being damned with feint praise'? Llanmartinangel
  • Score: -1

2:21pm Fri 20 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

I have even had Newport's "finest" come up to me in Boots as I was collecting a blood pressure prescription and ask me if they could "have some mate cos we lost our methadone...go on mate, they might work"!

Whatevfer reks yer Zooport boat...
I have even had Newport's "finest" come up to me in Boots as I was collecting a blood pressure prescription and ask me if they could "have some mate cos we lost our methadone...go on mate, they might work"! Whatevfer reks yer Zooport boat... KarloMarko
  • Score: -17

3:03pm Fri 20 Jun 14

pigbag says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
pigbag wrote:
I spend my lunch time in the city centre most days,and have done for the last twenty years,and these tales of drunks and low life's are very much exaggerated.
It is true that newport has taken a knock back,it is true that many of newports people are struggling to get by,and it is true that with lots of empty shops, and a general lack of care and respect that town is looking a little rough,but stories of legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets are total nonsense.
Isn't that what's known as 'being damned with feint praise'?
Angel-Not really,I admit that town has taken a big hit,so have town centre's all over the UK,there has been some gross mismanagement,the bus station/train station farce,the market taking two years for a facelift,General indecision from councillors,etc,but to suggest that it's sprawling with drunks and junkies is just wrong,
And as for karlos boots encounter,do you believe him?
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pigbag[/bold] wrote: I spend my lunch time in the city centre most days,and have done for the last twenty years,and these tales of drunks and low life's are very much exaggerated. It is true that newport has taken a knock back,it is true that many of newports people are struggling to get by,and it is true that with lots of empty shops, and a general lack of care and respect that town is looking a little rough,but stories of legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets are total nonsense.[/p][/quote]Isn't that what's known as 'being damned with feint praise'?[/p][/quote]Angel-Not really,I admit that town has taken a big hit,so have town centre's all over the UK,there has been some gross mismanagement,the bus station/train station farce,the market taking two years for a facelift,General indecision from councillors,etc,but to suggest that it's sprawling with drunks and junkies is just wrong, And as for karlos boots encounter,do you believe him? pigbag
  • Score: 11

3:10pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Sing up for the amber boys says...

Stevenboy wrote:
KarloMarko wrote: "Grown up" enough. I went into Newport yesterday to buy a new 3 mobile phone. There were drunks when I got off the bus, drunks outside the market, drunks outside BHS...and that hell hole of a freak show outside Cash Converters. I said "Sod it", kept my £200 in my pocket and this morning bought my phone off the net. No drunks, five minutes flat. YOU choose the "shopping experience". Good luck.
I'm trying to figure out if they people voting down that post are either (a) wino fans (b) winos or (c) have never been to Newport. Say what you like but civilised it ain't.
To clarify : I'm not a wino, I'm a normal person who works full time and has a family. I'm born and bred Newport and very proud of it
[quote][p][bold]Stevenboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: "Grown up" enough. I went into Newport yesterday to buy a new 3 mobile phone. There were drunks when I got off the bus, drunks outside the market, drunks outside BHS...and that hell hole of a freak show outside Cash Converters. I said "Sod it", kept my £200 in my pocket and this morning bought my phone off the net. No drunks, five minutes flat. YOU choose the "shopping experience". Good luck.[/p][/quote]I'm trying to figure out if they people voting down that post are either (a) wino fans (b) winos or (c) have never been to Newport. Say what you like but civilised it ain't.[/p][/quote]To clarify : I'm not a wino, I'm a normal person who works full time and has a family. I'm born and bred Newport and very proud of it Sing up for the amber boys
  • Score: 20

3:14pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Sing up for the amber boys says...

pigbag wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
pigbag wrote: I spend my lunch time in the city centre most days,and have done for the last twenty years,and these tales of drunks and low life's are very much exaggerated. It is true that newport has taken a knock back,it is true that many of newports people are struggling to get by,and it is true that with lots of empty shops, and a general lack of care and respect that town is looking a little rough,but stories of legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets are total nonsense.
Isn't that what's known as 'being damned with feint praise'?
Angel-Not really,I admit that town has taken a big hit,so have town centre's all over the UK,there has been some gross mismanagement,the bus station/train station farce,the market taking two years for a facelift,General indecision from councillors,etc,but to suggest that it's sprawling with drunks and junkies is just wrong, And as for karlos boots encounter,do you believe him?
No I don't
[quote][p][bold]pigbag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pigbag[/bold] wrote: I spend my lunch time in the city centre most days,and have done for the last twenty years,and these tales of drunks and low life's are very much exaggerated. It is true that newport has taken a knock back,it is true that many of newports people are struggling to get by,and it is true that with lots of empty shops, and a general lack of care and respect that town is looking a little rough,but stories of legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets are total nonsense.[/p][/quote]Isn't that what's known as 'being damned with feint praise'?[/p][/quote]Angel-Not really,I admit that town has taken a big hit,so have town centre's all over the UK,there has been some gross mismanagement,the bus station/train station farce,the market taking two years for a facelift,General indecision from councillors,etc,but to suggest that it's sprawling with drunks and junkies is just wrong, And as for karlos boots encounter,do you believe him?[/p][/quote]No I don't Sing up for the amber boys
  • Score: 8

3:50pm Fri 20 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

pigbag wrote:
I spend my lunch time in the city centre most days,and have done for the last twenty years,and these tales of drunks and low life's are very much exaggerated.
It is true that newport has taken a knock back,it is true that many of newports people are struggling to get by,and it is true that with lots of empty shops, and a general lack of care and respect that town is looking a little rough,but stories of legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets are total nonsense.
Legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets is nonsense. YOU have stated that. Nobody else. I said groups of alcoholics and drug users and i stated the areas. I did not post all together at the same time. this is varying groups at varying times. But the hardcore regular faces are apparent most days. You may spend your lunch time in town most days. I have worked shifts in the centre for over 3 years. Before the bus station was removed the days of Ferris and his bunch of clowns were rife. Now Market Square has a percentage of them and back and for to the riverside. There are no longer drop in centres in the valleys mostly. They have been closed with cuts and the addicts naturally gravitate towards the next. Go down lower Dock Street on your next lunch and see what everybody else sees. See the shops with security cameras and doors locked against the tide of unwashed as they try every door for access. You and the authorities can ignore this no longer.
[quote][p][bold]pigbag[/bold] wrote: I spend my lunch time in the city centre most days,and have done for the last twenty years,and these tales of drunks and low life's are very much exaggerated. It is true that newport has taken a knock back,it is true that many of newports people are struggling to get by,and it is true that with lots of empty shops, and a general lack of care and respect that town is looking a little rough,but stories of legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets are total nonsense.[/p][/quote]Legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets is nonsense. YOU have stated that. Nobody else. I said groups of alcoholics and drug users and i stated the areas. I did not post all together at the same time. this is varying groups at varying times. But the hardcore regular faces are apparent most days. You may spend your lunch time in town most days. I have worked shifts in the centre for over 3 years. Before the bus station was removed the days of Ferris and his bunch of clowns were rife. Now Market Square has a percentage of them and back and for to the riverside. There are no longer drop in centres in the valleys mostly. They have been closed with cuts and the addicts naturally gravitate towards the next. Go down lower Dock Street on your next lunch and see what everybody else sees. See the shops with security cameras and doors locked against the tide of unwashed as they try every door for access. You and the authorities can ignore this no longer. landyman3030
  • Score: 11

3:52pm Fri 20 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

It happened. In fairness to them they were fairly polite, strung out and just hoped to score. Boots used to have a dedicated methadone dispn. window. And at least they weren't sucking steroids . So if you are really OK with 2014 Newport and its "earthy authenticity", well, live the dream. Everyday must be like Christmas.
It happened. In fairness to them they were fairly polite, strung out and just hoped to score. Boots used to have a dedicated methadone dispn. window. And at least they weren't sucking steroids . So if you are really OK with 2014 Newport and its "earthy authenticity", well, live the dream. Everyday must be like Christmas. KarloMarko
  • Score: -6

3:55pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Goat Man says...

My wife works in the RGH and used to enjoy a walk ' up town' in her lunch break. Not any more . You guess why ???
My wife works in the RGH and used to enjoy a walk ' up town' in her lunch break. Not any more . You guess why ??? Goat Man
  • Score: 9

3:59pm Fri 20 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

Stevenboy wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
"Grown up" enough. I went into Newport yesterday to buy a new 3 mobile phone. There were drunks when I got off the bus, drunks outside the market, drunks outside BHS...and that hell hole of a freak show outside Cash Converters. I said "Sod it", kept my £200 in my pocket and this morning bought my phone off the net. No drunks, five minutes flat. YOU choose the "shopping experience". Good luck.
I'm trying to figure out if they people voting down that post are either (a) wino fans (b) winos or (c) have never been to Newport. Say what you like but civilised it ain't.
People voting down are those who are so blind they cannot or will not see reality sometimes. I'm not saying constantly every day but enough to unerve some people. If you want a real eye opener stand in the entrance to the job centre and let your nose investigate. You can smell what they are smoking and see what many are drinking. try sitting on the bench outside RGH entrance on Cardiff Road or try and use the public toilet cleverly disguised as a phone box next to it. Am i still exaggerating? Looking forward to the no votes. You prove me wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Stevenboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: "Grown up" enough. I went into Newport yesterday to buy a new 3 mobile phone. There were drunks when I got off the bus, drunks outside the market, drunks outside BHS...and that hell hole of a freak show outside Cash Converters. I said "Sod it", kept my £200 in my pocket and this morning bought my phone off the net. No drunks, five minutes flat. YOU choose the "shopping experience". Good luck.[/p][/quote]I'm trying to figure out if they people voting down that post are either (a) wino fans (b) winos or (c) have never been to Newport. Say what you like but civilised it ain't.[/p][/quote]People voting down are those who are so blind they cannot or will not see reality sometimes. I'm not saying constantly every day but enough to unerve some people. If you want a real eye opener stand in the entrance to the job centre and let your nose investigate. You can smell what they are smoking and see what many are drinking. try sitting on the bench outside RGH entrance on Cardiff Road or try and use the public toilet cleverly disguised as a phone box next to it. Am i still exaggerating? Looking forward to the no votes. You prove me wrong. landyman3030
  • Score: 2

4:04pm Fri 20 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

Goat Man wrote:
My wife works in the RGH and used to enjoy a walk ' up town' in her lunch break. Not any more . You guess why ???
I've walked with my Mam from RGH up Town. I'll just walk through them but she would rather walk in the road to avoid the stench and the language and the pushing and shoving. And we are how far from the main Police Station in Newport?
[quote][p][bold]Goat Man[/bold] wrote: My wife works in the RGH and used to enjoy a walk ' up town' in her lunch break. Not any more . You guess why ???[/p][/quote]I've walked with my Mam from RGH up Town. I'll just walk through them but she would rather walk in the road to avoid the stench and the language and the pushing and shoving. And we are how far from the main Police Station in Newport? landyman3030
  • Score: 17

4:56pm Fri 20 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

landyman3030 wrote:
Goat Man wrote:
My wife works in the RGH and used to enjoy a walk ' up town' in her lunch break. Not any more . You guess why ???
I've walked with my Mam from RGH up Town. I'll just walk through them but she would rather walk in the road to avoid the stench and the language and the pushing and shoving. And we are how far from the main Police Station in Newport?
Hahaha. Somebody doesn't like the truth. Priceless.
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Goat Man[/bold] wrote: My wife works in the RGH and used to enjoy a walk ' up town' in her lunch break. Not any more . You guess why ???[/p][/quote]I've walked with my Mam from RGH up Town. I'll just walk through them but she would rather walk in the road to avoid the stench and the language and the pushing and shoving. And we are how far from the main Police Station in Newport?[/p][/quote]Hahaha. Somebody doesn't like the truth. Priceless. landyman3030
  • Score: 2

5:43pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Welshman76 says...

The things people are moaning about are not unique to Newport. It's happening in towns and cities up and down the UK. There both both better and worse places to be and if you don't like it, we live in a free society and you are welcome to jog on! I for one welcome the improvements and will look forward to the new shops etc. Maybe some of £250 million can be set aside for a few coaches to take the doom mongers to their utopia!
The things people are moaning about are not unique to Newport. It's happening in towns and cities up and down the UK. There both both better and worse places to be and if you don't like it, we live in a free society and you are welcome to jog on! I for one welcome the improvements and will look forward to the new shops etc. Maybe some of £250 million can be set aside for a few coaches to take the doom mongers to their utopia! Welshman76
  • Score: 19

6:28pm Fri 20 Jun 14

blue lagoon 2 says...

Waste of time and money. Newport will never change unless theres more policing on our streets
Waste of time and money. Newport will never change unless theres more policing on our streets blue lagoon 2
  • Score: 3

6:32pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Sing up for the amber boys says...

Welshman76 wrote:
The things people are moaning about are not unique to Newport. It's happening in towns and cities up and down the UK. There both both better and worse places to be and if you don't like it, we live in a free society and you are welcome to jog on! I for one welcome the improvements and will look forward to the new shops etc. Maybe some of £250 million can be set aside for a few coaches to take the doom mongers to their utopia!
Spot on.
[quote][p][bold]Welshman76[/bold] wrote: The things people are moaning about are not unique to Newport. It's happening in towns and cities up and down the UK. There both both better and worse places to be and if you don't like it, we live in a free society and you are welcome to jog on! I for one welcome the improvements and will look forward to the new shops etc. Maybe some of £250 million can be set aside for a few coaches to take the doom mongers to their utopia![/p][/quote]Spot on. Sing up for the amber boys
  • Score: 13

6:35pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Newportg says...

Welshman76 wrote:
The things people are moaning about are not unique to Newport. It's happening in towns and cities up and down the UK. There both both better and worse places to be and if you don't like it, we live in a free society and you are welcome to jog on! I for one welcome the improvements and will look forward to the new shops etc. Maybe some of £250 million can be set aside for a few coaches to take the doom mongers to their utopia!
Totally agree!!
[quote][p][bold]Welshman76[/bold] wrote: The things people are moaning about are not unique to Newport. It's happening in towns and cities up and down the UK. There both both better and worse places to be and if you don't like it, we live in a free society and you are welcome to jog on! I for one welcome the improvements and will look forward to the new shops etc. Maybe some of £250 million can be set aside for a few coaches to take the doom mongers to their utopia![/p][/quote]Totally agree!! Newportg
  • Score: 12

7:52pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Magor says...

Clear up the graffiti,fly postings rubbish,shabby shops etc first.
Clear up the graffiti,fly postings rubbish,shabby shops etc first. Magor
  • Score: 13

7:55pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Foxyboy3rd says...

As someone who has been going to "town" regularly since a kid,from the time when Woolies was where Boots is, I would like to contribute my fourpenneth .
Other than the way that the economic disaster has had a bad effect on "town", the sheer amount of drug addicts , alcoholics,beggars who feel that the town centre is their place to hang out daily and behave as they do is a big deterrent not to go into town.
Add to this all those Ambulance Chasers . The literal hordes of alcoholics on the riverside walk by the bingo makes a trip into town makes me think shall I bother or shall I pop up to Cwmbran , where everything is on hand and none of the above undesirables most of whom get everything for free.
As someone who has been going to "town" regularly since a kid,from the time when Woolies was where Boots is, I would like to contribute my fourpenneth . Other than the way that the economic disaster has had a bad effect on "town", the sheer amount of drug addicts , alcoholics,beggars who feel that the town centre is their place to hang out daily and behave as they do is a big deterrent not to go into town. Add to this all those Ambulance Chasers . The literal hordes of alcoholics on the riverside walk by the bingo makes a trip into town makes me think shall I bother or shall I pop up to Cwmbran , where everything is on hand and none of the above undesirables most of whom get everything for free. Foxyboy3rd
  • Score: 16

8:44pm Fri 20 Jun 14

scraptheWAG says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
"Grown up" enough. I went into Newport yesterday to buy a new 3 mobile phone. There were drunks when I got off the bus, drunks outside the market, drunks outside BHS...and that hell hole of a freak show outside Cash Converters. I said "Sod it", kept my £200 in my pocket and this morning bought my phone off the net. No drunks, five minutes flat. YOU choose the "shopping experience". Good luck.
I took my elderly mum to the opticians recently and I can most certainly believe every word of that. It was not funny.
is this the poor old unemployed that the nasty conservatives are cutting their cash and they say cannot afford food
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: "Grown up" enough. I went into Newport yesterday to buy a new 3 mobile phone. There were drunks when I got off the bus, drunks outside the market, drunks outside BHS...and that hell hole of a freak show outside Cash Converters. I said "Sod it", kept my £200 in my pocket and this morning bought my phone off the net. No drunks, five minutes flat. YOU choose the "shopping experience". Good luck.[/p][/quote]I took my elderly mum to the opticians recently and I can most certainly believe every word of that. It was not funny.[/p][/quote]is this the poor old unemployed that the nasty conservatives are cutting their cash and they say cannot afford food scraptheWAG
  • Score: 2

8:44pm Fri 20 Jun 14

scraptheWAG says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
"Grown up" enough. I went into Newport yesterday to buy a new 3 mobile phone. There were drunks when I got off the bus, drunks outside the market, drunks outside BHS...and that hell hole of a freak show outside Cash Converters. I said "Sod it", kept my £200 in my pocket and this morning bought my phone off the net. No drunks, five minutes flat. YOU choose the "shopping experience". Good luck.
I took my elderly mum to the opticians recently and I can most certainly believe every word of that. It was not funny.
is this the poor old unemployed that the nasty conservatives are cutting their cash and they say cannot afford food
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: "Grown up" enough. I went into Newport yesterday to buy a new 3 mobile phone. There were drunks when I got off the bus, drunks outside the market, drunks outside BHS...and that hell hole of a freak show outside Cash Converters. I said "Sod it", kept my £200 in my pocket and this morning bought my phone off the net. No drunks, five minutes flat. YOU choose the "shopping experience". Good luck.[/p][/quote]I took my elderly mum to the opticians recently and I can most certainly believe every word of that. It was not funny.[/p][/quote]is this the poor old unemployed that the nasty conservatives are cutting their cash and they say cannot afford food scraptheWAG
  • Score: -4

8:55pm Fri 20 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

Foxyboy3rd wrote:
As someone who has been going to "town" regularly since a kid,from the time when Woolies was where Boots is, I would like to contribute my fourpenneth .
Other than the way that the economic disaster has had a bad effect on "town", the sheer amount of drug addicts , alcoholics,beggars who feel that the town centre is their place to hang out daily and behave as they do is a big deterrent not to go into town.
Add to this all those Ambulance Chasers . The literal hordes of alcoholics on the riverside walk by the bingo makes a trip into town makes me think shall I bother or shall I pop up to Cwmbran , where everything is on hand and none of the above undesirables most of whom get everything for free.
Careful mind. You will be accused of exaggeration because you are daring to speak the truth. These posters who say it's not that bad see what they want to see and obviously never go along the river or south of The Kings Hotel. Apart from the free parking one of the biggest draws to Cwmbran for me is the fact that ASB is not tolerated by the precinct security. Everything is on CCTV and if there is an incident they are straight on it. I don't know if they are a private firm or council operated but whichever way, it works. NCC and the police need to have a purge on the City in general. Forget cut backs. Without sending a strong message to disaffected youths, drunks and druggies, beggars and low life's that ASB in ALL forms is not acceptable and will be punished. Otherwise what happened with marker on the New Market entrance is just the tip of the problems to come. People will NOT come into the City if they have to see and deal with unsocial individuals.
[quote][p][bold]Foxyboy3rd[/bold] wrote: As someone who has been going to "town" regularly since a kid,from the time when Woolies was where Boots is, I would like to contribute my fourpenneth . Other than the way that the economic disaster has had a bad effect on "town", the sheer amount of drug addicts , alcoholics,beggars who feel that the town centre is their place to hang out daily and behave as they do is a big deterrent not to go into town. Add to this all those Ambulance Chasers . The literal hordes of alcoholics on the riverside walk by the bingo makes a trip into town makes me think shall I bother or shall I pop up to Cwmbran , where everything is on hand and none of the above undesirables most of whom get everything for free.[/p][/quote]Careful mind. You will be accused of exaggeration because you are daring to speak the truth. These posters who say it's not that bad see what they want to see and obviously never go along the river or south of The Kings Hotel. Apart from the free parking one of the biggest draws to Cwmbran for me is the fact that ASB is not tolerated by the precinct security. Everything is on CCTV and if there is an incident they are straight on it. I don't know if they are a private firm or council operated but whichever way, it works. NCC and the police need to have a purge on the City in general. Forget cut backs. Without sending a strong message to disaffected youths, drunks and druggies, beggars and low life's that ASB in ALL forms is not acceptable and will be punished. Otherwise what happened with marker on the New Market entrance is just the tip of the problems to come. People will NOT come into the City if they have to see and deal with unsocial individuals. landyman3030
  • Score: 16

9:41pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Strider says...

pigbag wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
pigbag wrote:
I spend my lunch time in the city centre most days,and have done for the last twenty years,and these tales of drunks and low life's are very much exaggerated.
It is true that newport has taken a knock back,it is true that many of newports people are struggling to get by,and it is true that with lots of empty shops, and a general lack of care and respect that town is looking a little rough,but stories of legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets are total nonsense.
Isn't that what's known as 'being damned with feint praise'?
Angel-Not really,I admit that town has taken a big hit,so have town centre's all over the UK,there has been some gross mismanagement,the bus station/train station farce,the market taking two years for a facelift,General indecision from councillors,etc,but to suggest that it's sprawling with drunks and junkies is just wrong,
And as for karlos boots encounter,do you believe him?
Pigbag 'Karlo' is the best poster on here I think his brand of comedy goes over peoples heads?

May I ask where you visited lunchtime? As all I hear is the F and C words screamed by people who wouldn't look out off place in Mos Eisley Cantina.. Walking skeletons(pretending they have a job to walk as they're muscles are so big) big fat Dumbo's cover in David Beckham tattoo's or women pushing prams with there trousers down showing there backsides(no panties)

Also Pigbag may I point you to this post made by the previous owner of Infusions Sports bar... He/she posted this in comment in reply to a story the Argus ran on Infusion Closing.....

bubbles17 wrote:
ANOTHER GOOD OUTLET SHUTTING DOWN.

It is with regret that we at Infusion bar of 16 High St, have to announce the closure of the bar next month.
Another establishment closing down on the Newport High St, due to many leading factors.

It seems to be the centre is dying without any thought to collateral damage to existing trading patterns in the High St and the livelihood of those involved, as long as developers have there shillings for the plans they do not care about the traders. The pound shops, cash converter shops and charity shops are the only places left in Newport now.
Sadly we am not the first or neither will we be the last in this mass exodus that the council have created.

Most of the general public that were coming to the City Centre in the evenings/ nights have stopped coming as taxis can no longer get to the bar, they have to walk distances through very hostile gangs that are allowed to loiter around all night selling drugs, starting fights, looking to mug people and be a threat to everyone within the High St area.
There is/was a system within Newport nighttime economy that was there to protect the public, where all the scrotes, chavs and thugs that do cause trouble were banned from the city centre, this was brought in to make the city a safer place to drink in and enjoy yourself, however it has never been implemented properly as too many bars do not want to lose the bad trade that they have got. Hence why the nice people do not enter Newport anymore. 75% of the trade within the city is bad trade, hence why the 75% that was nice trade has gone.
For all the Nice people that have visited us in Infusion, I am sad to say another of your safe pubs has now gone. We have always had a strong door policy of keeping the riff raff out and letting people come in, relax, have a good time all in a safe environment.

So yes, If we had any money left we would be looking to open a bar in the Spytty retail park or Cwmbran as that is where everybody is heading.

Who is the most reliable Newport Business Owner working in Newport or somebody who visited Newport for half a hour for there lunch break years ago?
[quote][p][bold]pigbag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pigbag[/bold] wrote: I spend my lunch time in the city centre most days,and have done for the last twenty years,and these tales of drunks and low life's are very much exaggerated. It is true that newport has taken a knock back,it is true that many of newports people are struggling to get by,and it is true that with lots of empty shops, and a general lack of care and respect that town is looking a little rough,but stories of legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets are total nonsense.[/p][/quote]Isn't that what's known as 'being damned with feint praise'?[/p][/quote]Angel-Not really,I admit that town has taken a big hit,so have town centre's all over the UK,there has been some gross mismanagement,the bus station/train station farce,the market taking two years for a facelift,General indecision from councillors,etc,but to suggest that it's sprawling with drunks and junkies is just wrong, And as for karlos boots encounter,do you believe him?[/p][/quote]Pigbag 'Karlo' is the best poster on here I think his brand of comedy goes over peoples heads? May I ask where you visited lunchtime? As all I hear is the F and C words screamed by people who wouldn't look out off place in Mos Eisley Cantina.. Walking skeletons(pretending they have a job to walk as they're muscles are so big) big fat Dumbo's cover in David Beckham tattoo's or women pushing prams with there trousers down showing there backsides(no panties) Also Pigbag may I point you to this post made by the previous owner of Infusions Sports bar... He/she posted this in comment in reply to a story the Argus ran on Infusion Closing..... bubbles17 wrote: ANOTHER GOOD OUTLET SHUTTING DOWN. It is with regret that we at Infusion bar of 16 High St, have to announce the closure of the bar next month. Another establishment closing down on the Newport High St, due to many leading factors. It seems to be the centre is dying without any thought to collateral damage to existing trading patterns in the High St and the livelihood of those involved, as long as developers have there shillings for the plans they do not care about the traders. The pound shops, cash converter shops and charity shops are the only places left in Newport now. Sadly we am not the first or neither will we be the last in this mass exodus that the council have created. Most of the general public that were coming to the City Centre in the evenings/ nights have stopped coming as taxis can no longer get to the bar, they have to walk distances through very hostile gangs that are allowed to loiter around all night selling drugs, starting fights, looking to mug people and be a threat to everyone within the High St area. There is/was a system within Newport nighttime economy that was there to protect the public, where all the scrotes, chavs and thugs that do cause trouble were banned from the city centre, this was brought in to make the city a safer place to drink in and enjoy yourself, however it has never been implemented properly as too many bars do not want to lose the bad trade that they have got. Hence why the nice people do not enter Newport anymore. 75% of the trade within the city is bad trade, hence why the 75% that was nice trade has gone. For all the Nice people that have visited us in Infusion, I am sad to say another of your safe pubs has now gone. We have always had a strong door policy of keeping the riff raff out and letting people come in, relax, have a good time all in a safe environment. So yes, If we had any money left we would be looking to open a bar in the Spytty retail park or Cwmbran as that is where everybody is heading. Who is the most reliable Newport Business Owner working in Newport or somebody who visited Newport for half a hour for there lunch break years ago? Strider
  • Score: 20

9:47pm Fri 20 Jun 14

Llanmartinangel says...

pigbag wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
pigbag wrote:
I spend my lunch time in the city centre most days,and have done for the last twenty years,and these tales of drunks and low life's are very much exaggerated.
It is true that newport has taken a knock back,it is true that many of newports people are struggling to get by,and it is true that with lots of empty shops, and a general lack of care and respect that town is looking a little rough,but stories of legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets are total nonsense.
Isn't that what's known as 'being damned with feint praise'?
Angel-Not really,I admit that town has taken a big hit,so have town centre's all over the UK,there has been some gross mismanagement,the bus station/train station farce,the market taking two years for a facelift,General indecision from councillors,etc,but to suggest that it's sprawling with drunks and junkies is just wrong,
And as for karlos boots encounter,do you believe him?
Do I believe him? Well I can't imagine why he'd make it up if that's what you mean. Reality check then: look at the number of posters who feel that Newport centre is wino/smack-head/scuz
zer ridden. They didn't post those views for the fun of it, they believe it to be the case from experience. They (and I) feel its overrun with, let's call them 'non-aspirational types'. You can shout those views down all you want but until you change them, people with money and nice clothes will go to Cardiff to shop/dine. End of.
[quote][p][bold]pigbag[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pigbag[/bold] wrote: I spend my lunch time in the city centre most days,and have done for the last twenty years,and these tales of drunks and low life's are very much exaggerated. It is true that newport has taken a knock back,it is true that many of newports people are struggling to get by,and it is true that with lots of empty shops, and a general lack of care and respect that town is looking a little rough,but stories of legions of drunks and drug addicts laying around in the streets are total nonsense.[/p][/quote]Isn't that what's known as 'being damned with feint praise'?[/p][/quote]Angel-Not really,I admit that town has taken a big hit,so have town centre's all over the UK,there has been some gross mismanagement,the bus station/train station farce,the market taking two years for a facelift,General indecision from councillors,etc,but to suggest that it's sprawling with drunks and junkies is just wrong, And as for karlos boots encounter,do you believe him?[/p][/quote]Do I believe him? Well I can't imagine why he'd make it up if that's what you mean. Reality check then: look at the number of posters who feel that Newport centre is wino/smack-head/scuz zer ridden. They didn't post those views for the fun of it, they believe it to be the case from experience. They (and I) feel its overrun with, let's call them 'non-aspirational types'. You can shout those views down all you want but until you change them, people with money and nice clothes will go to Cardiff to shop/dine. End of. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 10

9:51pm Fri 20 Jun 14

stjulians says...

This is fantastic, positive news.

I for one am loving seeing the progress being made by the Friars Walk development, from the demolition of the car park to today. I’m enjoying the Argus, Twitter, Council Newspaper and Queensbury updates and would easily welcome more.

I am born and breed in Newport, and despite what others may say about the City Centre, I’m am proud of being a Newportian - when friends visit I know where to take them to show off exactly what we have to be proud of; with one friend that I know of recommending an attraction to others (and their friend visiting with their families).

I will admit that I very rarely shop in Newport, but then I very rarely shop in Cardiff or (even more rarely in) Bristol so it’s of no fault of the Centre itself; I choose to shop online. I have said before in other Argus comments that the type of labels I buy may eventually come to Newport (my favourite brand doesn’t even have an actual store in Cardiff!) but Friars Walk is the start - and can only attract other and bigger brands.

I’m excited to see the new eateries coming to Newport, we’ve never had many of them and despite them being main stream or not they attract customers which can only lead to more committing to Newport and our surroundings. Pizza Express (Cardiff and London) has always been a favourite of mine, and despite not being a huge fan of Spytty Retail Park, since it’s opening I have been to eat there on 4 or more occasions - if they were to open in the Centre, I know I’d go more!

I don’t think that Newport has any more trouble than any other City, town or village; I’ve worked behind bars in Newport (yes, 10+ years ago), and worked in the Centre around that time to, but even the odd night out in Newport today has not made me feel threatened or uncomfortable.

I do think that people forget about the amount of work that’s actually going on in Newport - Admiral (yes now completed), flats across from the walking bridge, buildings being converted and tidied up, new eateries and shops opening at Spytty, buildings being tidied up in Pill and Friars Walk talking shape, new bus station opening, new train station (although not my favourite building, I would have preferred to keep the older station), Market upgrades and shops investing in Newport at this time when others are deciding to close (to name a few off the top of my head as I type) - it all costs money, and today it costs thousands/millions.

This is the start of new Newport, but without the locals supporting any money spent will be spent in vain. Companies are (again) committing to Newport, it’s locals should to. And, providing I’m not working on the day that Friars Walk opens, I will be there as I want to see for myself this new era of Newport.
This is fantastic, positive news. I for one am loving seeing the progress being made by the Friars Walk development, from the demolition of the car park to today. I’m enjoying the Argus, Twitter, Council Newspaper and Queensbury updates and would easily welcome more. I am born and breed in Newport, and despite what others may say about the City Centre, I’m am proud of being a Newportian - when friends visit I know where to take them to show off exactly what we have to be proud of; with one friend that I know of recommending an attraction to others (and their friend visiting with their families). I will admit that I very rarely shop in Newport, but then I very rarely shop in Cardiff or (even more rarely in) Bristol so it’s of no fault of the Centre itself; I choose to shop online. I have said before in other Argus comments that the type of labels I buy may eventually come to Newport (my favourite brand doesn’t even have an actual store in Cardiff!) but Friars Walk is the start - and can only attract other and bigger brands. I’m excited to see the new eateries coming to Newport, we’ve never had many of them and despite them being main stream or not they attract customers which can only lead to more committing to Newport and our surroundings. Pizza Express (Cardiff and London) has always been a favourite of mine, and despite not being a huge fan of Spytty Retail Park, since it’s opening I have been to eat there on 4 or more occasions - if they were to open in the Centre, I know I’d go more! I don’t think that Newport has any more trouble than any other City, town or village; I’ve worked behind bars in Newport (yes, 10+ years ago), and worked in the Centre around that time to, but even the odd night out in Newport today has not made me feel threatened or uncomfortable. I do think that people forget about the amount of work that’s actually going on in Newport - Admiral (yes now completed), flats across from the walking bridge, buildings being converted and tidied up, new eateries and shops opening at Spytty, buildings being tidied up in Pill and Friars Walk talking shape, new bus station opening, new train station (although not my favourite building, I would have preferred to keep the older station), Market upgrades and shops investing in Newport at this time when others are deciding to close (to name a few off the top of my head as I type) - it all costs money, and today it costs thousands/millions. This is the start of new Newport, but without the locals supporting any money spent will be spent in vain. Companies are (again) committing to Newport, it’s locals should to. And, providing I’m not working on the day that Friars Walk opens, I will be there as I want to see for myself this new era of Newport. stjulians
  • Score: 23

9:53pm Fri 20 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

When it's said, "if you don't like it (Newport) then jog off somewhere else" that is ironically the fact! People have "jogged off to somewhere else" en mass and most are not coming back in a hurry. I've noticed a vastly reduced footfall in Newport. A lot of the elderley still shop locally but they rely on public transport and so have little choice. Those of us with a private Lear jet, helicopter or reconditioned Vespa can shop in LA....or Cribbs.
When it's said, "if you don't like it (Newport) then jog off somewhere else" that is ironically the fact! People have "jogged off to somewhere else" en mass and most are not coming back in a hurry. I've noticed a vastly reduced footfall in Newport. A lot of the elderley still shop locally but they rely on public transport and so have little choice. Those of us with a private Lear jet, helicopter or reconditioned Vespa can shop in LA....or Cribbs. KarloMarko
  • Score: 2

11:11pm Fri 20 Jun 14

portman says...

Sort out the high st yobs that hang about outside Donalds and the market get the hard knock rangers back CSo s are crap
Sort out the high st yobs that hang about outside Donalds and the market get the hard knock rangers back CSo s are crap portman
  • Score: 14

11:47pm Fri 20 Jun 14

welshinventor says...

I live in NEWPORT but do all my shopping in CWMBRAN
there are to many second hand shops,coffee shops and food outlets also to many drunks standing around outside pub doors.
the road system around the town is confusing for most people and parking is not free. Newport a city of traffic lights zebra crossings and second hand shops. thank god CWMBRAN is just up the road and the sooner I can move back there the better.
p.s I forgot about the free car parking.
I live in NEWPORT but do all my shopping in CWMBRAN there are to many second hand shops,coffee shops and food outlets also to many drunks standing around outside pub doors. the road system around the town is confusing for most people and parking is not free. Newport a city of traffic lights zebra crossings and second hand shops. thank god CWMBRAN is just up the road and the sooner I can move back there the better. p.s I forgot about the free car parking. welshinventor
  • Score: -3

12:43am Sat 21 Jun 14

stjulians says...

welshinventor wrote:
I live in NEWPORT but do all my shopping in CWMBRAN
there are to many second hand shops,coffee shops and food outlets also to many drunks standing around outside pub doors.
the road system around the town is confusing for most people and parking is not free. Newport a city of traffic lights zebra crossings and second hand shops. thank god CWMBRAN is just up the road and the sooner I can move back there the better.
p.s I forgot about the free car parking.
For someone that has always lived in Newport I don't really understand the road system being confusing; although one thing I have always thought about Newport roads is that you have to go that way to come back to where you want to be. Saying that, in Newport I don't find it an issue. For a driver, I know where my friends live in Cardiff but when there are road closures I completely lose myself. It might be personal preference but if I was asked to shop in Newport or Cwmbran even now I'd pick Newport. At the end of the day I think the 'free parking' conversation is pretty much dead in the water, Newport is a City, Cwmbran isn't. I'll hold my hands up if Cardiff offer 2 hours free parking in their city centre. Last week in Newport, after about 6 hours parking I think Newport charged me about £2? I have been parked in Cardiff (in an NCP) whilst at a concert and I've paid about £15 to leave the car park... Newport is up and coming. After Queensbury I hope they won't abandon us and continue to promote the Centre and possible places of investment, which as a company I could imagine they would after the millions spent.
[quote][p][bold]welshinventor[/bold] wrote: I live in NEWPORT but do all my shopping in CWMBRAN there are to many second hand shops,coffee shops and food outlets also to many drunks standing around outside pub doors. the road system around the town is confusing for most people and parking is not free. Newport a city of traffic lights zebra crossings and second hand shops. thank god CWMBRAN is just up the road and the sooner I can move back there the better. p.s I forgot about the free car parking.[/p][/quote]For someone that has always lived in Newport I don't really understand the road system being confusing; although one thing I have always thought about Newport roads is that you have to go that way to come back to where you want to be. Saying that, in Newport I don't find it an issue. For a driver, I know where my friends live in Cardiff but when there are road closures I completely lose myself. It might be personal preference but if I was asked to shop in Newport or Cwmbran even now I'd pick Newport. At the end of the day I think the 'free parking' conversation is pretty much dead in the water, Newport is a City, Cwmbran isn't. I'll hold my hands up if Cardiff offer 2 hours free parking in their city centre. Last week in Newport, after about 6 hours parking I think Newport charged me about £2? I have been parked in Cardiff (in an NCP) whilst at a concert and I've paid about £15 to leave the car park... Newport is up and coming. After Queensbury I hope they won't abandon us and continue to promote the Centre and possible places of investment, which as a company I could imagine they would after the millions spent. stjulians
  • Score: 16

9:50am Mon 23 Jun 14

Sing up for the amber boys says...

KarloMarko wrote:
When it's said, "if you don't like it (Newport) then jog off somewhere else" that is ironically the fact! People have "jogged off to somewhere else" en mass and most are not coming back in a hurry. I've noticed a vastly reduced footfall in Newport. A lot of the elderley still shop locally but they rely on public transport and so have little choice. Those of us with a private Lear jet, helicopter or reconditioned Vespa can shop in LA....or Cribbs.
So you're now running a footfall census as well are you ?
[quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: When it's said, "if you don't like it (Newport) then jog off somewhere else" that is ironically the fact! People have "jogged off to somewhere else" en mass and most are not coming back in a hurry. I've noticed a vastly reduced footfall in Newport. A lot of the elderley still shop locally but they rely on public transport and so have little choice. Those of us with a private Lear jet, helicopter or reconditioned Vespa can shop in LA....or Cribbs.[/p][/quote]So you're now running a footfall census as well are you ? Sing up for the amber boys
  • Score: 1

11:04am Mon 23 Jun 14

Good Job No Kids says...

skipbifferty wrote:
I will tell you where they should pump some money into, Chepstow Road. It is like down-town Islamabad, it is filthy. The whole length is an eye-sore with bins and rubbish strew all over it. If the councillors were to give-up their expenses for a year, they could employ people too clean it up. Fat chance tho!
That's completely incorrect, from the Coldra to Victoria avenue it is one of the better looking roads around Newport.

I assume you must mean the drag from the cenotaph through Maindy to the George pub? All the social housing (bedsits full of losers between the dodger and Maindy) largely run this area down, shame as some of the buildings are nice.

Maindy is a bit of slum agreed.
[quote][p][bold]skipbifferty[/bold] wrote: I will tell you where they should pump some money into, Chepstow Road. It is like down-town Islamabad, it is filthy. The whole length is an eye-sore with bins and rubbish strew all over it. If the councillors were to give-up their expenses for a year, they could employ people too clean it up. Fat chance tho![/p][/quote]That's completely incorrect, from the Coldra to Victoria avenue it is one of the better looking roads around Newport. I assume you must mean the drag from the cenotaph through Maindy to the George pub? All the social housing (bedsits full of losers between the dodger and Maindy) largely run this area down, shame as some of the buildings are nice. Maindy is a bit of slum agreed. Good Job No Kids
  • Score: 5

8:26pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Sing up for the amber boys wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
When it's said, "if you don't like it (Newport) then jog off somewhere else" that is ironically the fact! People have "jogged off to somewhere else" en mass and most are not coming back in a hurry. I've noticed a vastly reduced footfall in Newport. A lot of the elderley still shop locally but they rely on public transport and so have little choice. Those of us with a private Lear jet, helicopter or reconditioned Vespa can shop in LA....or Cribbs.
So you're now running a footfall census as well are you ?
Do you imagine that M&S and all the other outlets that legged it out of the centre did so because the footfall had actually gone up? Pretending the town doesn't have an image problem won't help it succeed. Dealing with it might.
[quote][p][bold]Sing up for the amber boys[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: When it's said, "if you don't like it (Newport) then jog off somewhere else" that is ironically the fact! People have "jogged off to somewhere else" en mass and most are not coming back in a hurry. I've noticed a vastly reduced footfall in Newport. A lot of the elderley still shop locally but they rely on public transport and so have little choice. Those of us with a private Lear jet, helicopter or reconditioned Vespa can shop in LA....or Cribbs.[/p][/quote]So you're now running a footfall census as well are you ?[/p][/quote]Do you imagine that M&S and all the other outlets that legged it out of the centre did so because the footfall had actually gone up? Pretending the town doesn't have an image problem won't help it succeed. Dealing with it might. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 2

10:02am Tue 24 Jun 14

Mervyn James says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
Sing up for the amber boys wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
When it's said, "if you don't like it (Newport) then jog off somewhere else" that is ironically the fact! People have "jogged off to somewhere else" en mass and most are not coming back in a hurry. I've noticed a vastly reduced footfall in Newport. A lot of the elderley still shop locally but they rely on public transport and so have little choice. Those of us with a private Lear jet, helicopter or reconditioned Vespa can shop in LA....or Cribbs.
So you're now running a footfall census as well are you ?
Do you imagine that M&S and all the other outlets that legged it out of the centre did so because the footfall had actually gone up? Pretending the town doesn't have an image problem won't help it succeed. Dealing with it might.
I think they left because of the business rates, although it is true younger people who buy stuff they don't really need and suckers for tin shed in fields to do their shopping with free parking, prefer not to use the City Centre except to throw up of an evening. Older shoppers buy less and have difficulty shopping out of town so tend to use the centre more. Unless the glitz and junk comes to town and parking is free and easy, it is going to be hard work, much as I would like to see a cosmopolitan Newport with civilized leisure and food/drink facilities for families I cannot see Newport has the population for that. families and elderly have been driven out of the city after 5pm and the market appears to be closing at 3pm.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sing up for the amber boys[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: When it's said, "if you don't like it (Newport) then jog off somewhere else" that is ironically the fact! People have "jogged off to somewhere else" en mass and most are not coming back in a hurry. I've noticed a vastly reduced footfall in Newport. A lot of the elderley still shop locally but they rely on public transport and so have little choice. Those of us with a private Lear jet, helicopter or reconditioned Vespa can shop in LA....or Cribbs.[/p][/quote]So you're now running a footfall census as well are you ?[/p][/quote]Do you imagine that M&S and all the other outlets that legged it out of the centre did so because the footfall had actually gone up? Pretending the town doesn't have an image problem won't help it succeed. Dealing with it might.[/p][/quote]I think they left because of the business rates, although it is true younger people who buy stuff they don't really need and suckers for tin shed in fields to do their shopping with free parking, prefer not to use the City Centre except to throw up of an evening. Older shoppers buy less and have difficulty shopping out of town so tend to use the centre more. Unless the glitz and junk comes to town and parking is free and easy, it is going to be hard work, much as I would like to see a cosmopolitan Newport with civilized leisure and food/drink facilities for families I cannot see Newport has the population for that. families and elderly have been driven out of the city after 5pm and the market appears to be closing at 3pm. Mervyn James
  • Score: 0

4:55pm Tue 24 Jun 14

jimmytheone2 says...

stjulians wrote:
welshinventor wrote:
I live in NEWPORT but do all my shopping in CWMBRAN
there are to many second hand shops,coffee shops and food outlets also to many drunks standing around outside pub doors.
the road system around the town is confusing for most people and parking is not free. Newport a city of traffic lights zebra crossings and second hand shops. thank god CWMBRAN is just up the road and the sooner I can move back there the better.
p.s I forgot about the free car parking.
For someone that has always lived in Newport I don't really understand the road system being confusing; although one thing I have always thought about Newport roads is that you have to go that way to come back to where you want to be. Saying that, in Newport I don't find it an issue. For a driver, I know where my friends live in Cardiff but when there are road closures I completely lose myself. It might be personal preference but if I was asked to shop in Newport or Cwmbran even now I'd pick Newport. At the end of the day I think the 'free parking' conversation is pretty much dead in the water, Newport is a City, Cwmbran isn't. I'll hold my hands up if Cardiff offer 2 hours free parking in their city centre. Last week in Newport, after about 6 hours parking I think Newport charged me about £2? I have been parked in Cardiff (in an NCP) whilst at a concert and I've paid about £15 to leave the car park... Newport is up and coming. After Queensbury I hope they won't abandon us and continue to promote the Centre and possible places of investment, which as a company I could imagine they would after the millions spent.
Nice to hear you can park in Newport for 6 hours for only £2. Wow!
But what on earth did you do while you were there - that's a lot of time to fill, with not a lot o fill it? Or do you like viewing 'everything for £1' shops and charity outlets?
[quote][p][bold]stjulians[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshinventor[/bold] wrote: I live in NEWPORT but do all my shopping in CWMBRAN there are to many second hand shops,coffee shops and food outlets also to many drunks standing around outside pub doors. the road system around the town is confusing for most people and parking is not free. Newport a city of traffic lights zebra crossings and second hand shops. thank god CWMBRAN is just up the road and the sooner I can move back there the better. p.s I forgot about the free car parking.[/p][/quote]For someone that has always lived in Newport I don't really understand the road system being confusing; although one thing I have always thought about Newport roads is that you have to go that way to come back to where you want to be. Saying that, in Newport I don't find it an issue. For a driver, I know where my friends live in Cardiff but when there are road closures I completely lose myself. It might be personal preference but if I was asked to shop in Newport or Cwmbran even now I'd pick Newport. At the end of the day I think the 'free parking' conversation is pretty much dead in the water, Newport is a City, Cwmbran isn't. I'll hold my hands up if Cardiff offer 2 hours free parking in their city centre. Last week in Newport, after about 6 hours parking I think Newport charged me about £2? I have been parked in Cardiff (in an NCP) whilst at a concert and I've paid about £15 to leave the car park... Newport is up and coming. After Queensbury I hope they won't abandon us and continue to promote the Centre and possible places of investment, which as a company I could imagine they would after the millions spent.[/p][/quote]Nice to hear you can park in Newport for 6 hours for only £2. Wow! But what on earth did you do while you were there - that's a lot of time to fill, with not a lot o fill it? Or do you like viewing 'everything for £1' shops and charity outlets? jimmytheone2
  • Score: -2

5:00pm Tue 24 Jun 14

jimmytheone2 says...

Foxyboy3rd wrote:
As someone who has been going to "town" regularly since a kid,from the time when Woolies was where Boots is, I would like to contribute my fourpenneth .
Other than the way that the economic disaster has had a bad effect on "town", the sheer amount of drug addicts , alcoholics,beggars who feel that the town centre is their place to hang out daily and behave as they do is a big deterrent not to go into town.
Add to this all those Ambulance Chasers . The literal hordes of alcoholics on the riverside walk by the bingo makes a trip into town makes me think shall I bother or shall I pop up to Cwmbran , where everything is on hand and none of the above undesirables most of whom get everything for free.
Have you seen Welshmen on the riverside walk by the bingo? He's there every day I hear with his alcy mates. You'll know which one he is as he's always shouting gibberish - no one knows what he's on about. It's difficult to tell whether he's drunk or mad. I think both.
[quote][p][bold]Foxyboy3rd[/bold] wrote: As someone who has been going to "town" regularly since a kid,from the time when Woolies was where Boots is, I would like to contribute my fourpenneth . Other than the way that the economic disaster has had a bad effect on "town", the sheer amount of drug addicts , alcoholics,beggars who feel that the town centre is their place to hang out daily and behave as they do is a big deterrent not to go into town. Add to this all those Ambulance Chasers . The literal hordes of alcoholics on the riverside walk by the bingo makes a trip into town makes me think shall I bother or shall I pop up to Cwmbran , where everything is on hand and none of the above undesirables most of whom get everything for free.[/p][/quote]Have you seen Welshmen on the riverside walk by the bingo? He's there every day I hear with his alcy mates. You'll know which one he is as he's always shouting gibberish - no one knows what he's on about. It's difficult to tell whether he's drunk or mad. I think both. jimmytheone2
  • Score: -1

5:10pm Tue 24 Jun 14

jimmytheone2 says...

stjulians wrote:
This is fantastic, positive news.

I for one am loving seeing the progress being made by the Friars Walk development, from the demolition of the car park to today. I’m enjoying the Argus, Twitter, Council Newspaper and Queensbury updates and would easily welcome more.

I am born and breed in Newport, and despite what others may say about the City Centre, I’m am proud of being a Newportian - when friends visit I know where to take them to show off exactly what we have to be proud of; with one friend that I know of recommending an attraction to others (and their friend visiting with their families).

I will admit that I very rarely shop in Newport, but then I very rarely shop in Cardiff or (even more rarely in) Bristol so it’s of no fault of the Centre itself; I choose to shop online. I have said before in other Argus comments that the type of labels I buy may eventually come to Newport (my favourite brand doesn’t even have an actual store in Cardiff!) but Friars Walk is the start - and can only attract other and bigger brands.

I’m excited to see the new eateries coming to Newport, we’ve never had many of them and despite them being main stream or not they attract customers which can only lead to more committing to Newport and our surroundings. Pizza Express (Cardiff and London) has always been a favourite of mine, and despite not being a huge fan of Spytty Retail Park, since it’s opening I have been to eat there on 4 or more occasions - if they were to open in the Centre, I know I’d go more!

I don’t think that Newport has any more trouble than any other City, town or village; I’ve worked behind bars in Newport (yes, 10+ years ago), and worked in the Centre around that time to, but even the odd night out in Newport today has not made me feel threatened or uncomfortable.

I do think that people forget about the amount of work that’s actually going on in Newport - Admiral (yes now completed), flats across from the walking bridge, buildings being converted and tidied up, new eateries and shops opening at Spytty, buildings being tidied up in Pill and Friars Walk talking shape, new bus station opening, new train station (although not my favourite building, I would have preferred to keep the older station), Market upgrades and shops investing in Newport at this time when others are deciding to close (to name a few off the top of my head as I type) - it all costs money, and today it costs thousands/millions.

This is the start of new Newport, but without the locals supporting any money spent will be spent in vain. Companies are (again) committing to Newport, it’s locals should to. And, providing I’m not working on the day that Friars Walk opens, I will be there as I want to see for myself this new era of Newport.
I think you work for the City council. You're too enthusiastic. This sounds like it's been written by a PR company. C'mon, who are you really?
[quote][p][bold]stjulians[/bold] wrote: This is fantastic, positive news. I for one am loving seeing the progress being made by the Friars Walk development, from the demolition of the car park to today. I’m enjoying the Argus, Twitter, Council Newspaper and Queensbury updates and would easily welcome more. I am born and breed in Newport, and despite what others may say about the City Centre, I’m am proud of being a Newportian - when friends visit I know where to take them to show off exactly what we have to be proud of; with one friend that I know of recommending an attraction to others (and their friend visiting with their families). I will admit that I very rarely shop in Newport, but then I very rarely shop in Cardiff or (even more rarely in) Bristol so it’s of no fault of the Centre itself; I choose to shop online. I have said before in other Argus comments that the type of labels I buy may eventually come to Newport (my favourite brand doesn’t even have an actual store in Cardiff!) but Friars Walk is the start - and can only attract other and bigger brands. I’m excited to see the new eateries coming to Newport, we’ve never had many of them and despite them being main stream or not they attract customers which can only lead to more committing to Newport and our surroundings. Pizza Express (Cardiff and London) has always been a favourite of mine, and despite not being a huge fan of Spytty Retail Park, since it’s opening I have been to eat there on 4 or more occasions - if they were to open in the Centre, I know I’d go more! I don’t think that Newport has any more trouble than any other City, town or village; I’ve worked behind bars in Newport (yes, 10+ years ago), and worked in the Centre around that time to, but even the odd night out in Newport today has not made me feel threatened or uncomfortable. I do think that people forget about the amount of work that’s actually going on in Newport - Admiral (yes now completed), flats across from the walking bridge, buildings being converted and tidied up, new eateries and shops opening at Spytty, buildings being tidied up in Pill and Friars Walk talking shape, new bus station opening, new train station (although not my favourite building, I would have preferred to keep the older station), Market upgrades and shops investing in Newport at this time when others are deciding to close (to name a few off the top of my head as I type) - it all costs money, and today it costs thousands/millions. This is the start of new Newport, but without the locals supporting any money spent will be spent in vain. Companies are (again) committing to Newport, it’s locals should to. And, providing I’m not working on the day that Friars Walk opens, I will be there as I want to see for myself this new era of Newport.[/p][/quote]I think you work for the City council. You're too enthusiastic. This sounds like it's been written by a PR company. C'mon, who are you really? jimmytheone2
  • Score: -4

12:16am Wed 25 Jun 14

stjulians says...

jimmytheone2 wrote:
stjulians wrote:
This is fantastic, positive news.

I for one am loving seeing the progress being made by the Friars Walk development, from the demolition of the car park to today. I’m enjoying the Argus, Twitter, Council Newspaper and Queensbury updates and would easily welcome more.

I am born and breed in Newport, and despite what others may say about the City Centre, I’m am proud of being a Newportian - when friends visit I know where to take them to show off exactly what we have to be proud of; with one friend that I know of recommending an attraction to others (and their friend visiting with their families).

I will admit that I very rarely shop in Newport, but then I very rarely shop in Cardiff or (even more rarely in) Bristol so it’s of no fault of the Centre itself; I choose to shop online. I have said before in other Argus comments that the type of labels I buy may eventually come to Newport (my favourite brand doesn’t even have an actual store in Cardiff!) but Friars Walk is the start - and can only attract other and bigger brands.

I’m excited to see the new eateries coming to Newport, we’ve never had many of them and despite them being main stream or not they attract customers which can only lead to more committing to Newport and our surroundings. Pizza Express (Cardiff and London) has always been a favourite of mine, and despite not being a huge fan of Spytty Retail Park, since it’s opening I have been to eat there on 4 or more occasions - if they were to open in the Centre, I know I’d go more!

I don’t think that Newport has any more trouble than any other City, town or village; I’ve worked behind bars in Newport (yes, 10+ years ago), and worked in the Centre around that time to, but even the odd night out in Newport today has not made me feel threatened or uncomfortable.

I do think that people forget about the amount of work that’s actually going on in Newport - Admiral (yes now completed), flats across from the walking bridge, buildings being converted and tidied up, new eateries and shops opening at Spytty, buildings being tidied up in Pill and Friars Walk talking shape, new bus station opening, new train station (although not my favourite building, I would have preferred to keep the older station), Market upgrades and shops investing in Newport at this time when others are deciding to close (to name a few off the top of my head as I type) - it all costs money, and today it costs thousands/millions.

This is the start of new Newport, but without the locals supporting any money spent will be spent in vain. Companies are (again) committing to Newport, it’s locals should to. And, providing I’m not working on the day that Friars Walk opens, I will be there as I want to see for myself this new era of Newport.
I think you work for the City council. You're too enthusiastic. This sounds like it's been written by a PR company. C'mon, who are you really?
If it sounds like I am a PR company then I'd be almost 100% convinced that anyone attempting to promote a redevelopment from a PR perspective would not write a comment like a PR person or company... perhaps Argus comments need disclaimers...
[quote][p][bold]jimmytheone2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stjulians[/bold] wrote: This is fantastic, positive news. I for one am loving seeing the progress being made by the Friars Walk development, from the demolition of the car park to today. I’m enjoying the Argus, Twitter, Council Newspaper and Queensbury updates and would easily welcome more. I am born and breed in Newport, and despite what others may say about the City Centre, I’m am proud of being a Newportian - when friends visit I know where to take them to show off exactly what we have to be proud of; with one friend that I know of recommending an attraction to others (and their friend visiting with their families). I will admit that I very rarely shop in Newport, but then I very rarely shop in Cardiff or (even more rarely in) Bristol so it’s of no fault of the Centre itself; I choose to shop online. I have said before in other Argus comments that the type of labels I buy may eventually come to Newport (my favourite brand doesn’t even have an actual store in Cardiff!) but Friars Walk is the start - and can only attract other and bigger brands. I’m excited to see the new eateries coming to Newport, we’ve never had many of them and despite them being main stream or not they attract customers which can only lead to more committing to Newport and our surroundings. Pizza Express (Cardiff and London) has always been a favourite of mine, and despite not being a huge fan of Spytty Retail Park, since it’s opening I have been to eat there on 4 or more occasions - if they were to open in the Centre, I know I’d go more! I don’t think that Newport has any more trouble than any other City, town or village; I’ve worked behind bars in Newport (yes, 10+ years ago), and worked in the Centre around that time to, but even the odd night out in Newport today has not made me feel threatened or uncomfortable. I do think that people forget about the amount of work that’s actually going on in Newport - Admiral (yes now completed), flats across from the walking bridge, buildings being converted and tidied up, new eateries and shops opening at Spytty, buildings being tidied up in Pill and Friars Walk talking shape, new bus station opening, new train station (although not my favourite building, I would have preferred to keep the older station), Market upgrades and shops investing in Newport at this time when others are deciding to close (to name a few off the top of my head as I type) - it all costs money, and today it costs thousands/millions. This is the start of new Newport, but without the locals supporting any money spent will be spent in vain. Companies are (again) committing to Newport, it’s locals should to. And, providing I’m not working on the day that Friars Walk opens, I will be there as I want to see for myself this new era of Newport.[/p][/quote]I think you work for the City council. You're too enthusiastic. This sounds like it's been written by a PR company. C'mon, who are you really?[/p][/quote]If it sounds like I am a PR company then I'd be almost 100% convinced that anyone attempting to promote a redevelopment from a PR perspective would not write a comment like a PR person or company... perhaps Argus comments need disclaimers... stjulians
  • Score: 3

12:51am Wed 25 Jun 14

stjulians says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
Sing up for the amber boys wrote:
KarloMarko wrote:
When it's said, "if you don't like it (Newport) then jog off somewhere else" that is ironically the fact! People have "jogged off to somewhere else" en mass and most are not coming back in a hurry. I've noticed a vastly reduced footfall in Newport. A lot of the elderley still shop locally but they rely on public transport and so have little choice. Those of us with a private Lear jet, helicopter or reconditioned Vespa can shop in LA....or Cribbs.
So you're now running a footfall census as well are you ?
Do you imagine that M&S and all the other outlets that legged it out of the centre did so because the footfall had actually gone up? Pretending the town doesn't have an image problem won't help it succeed. Dealing with it might.
I won't dispute that Newport has an image problem (even though I'm currently happy for it to cater for my shopping or social needs). Over the years I have always tried to champion Newport for the benefits it offers, not just the centre but everything that surrounds it. Like I have said in other posts I do think that people forget or do not realise or see other building improvements, new buildings, developments or changes in the City Centre. It is being dealt with; Newport isn't just about the City Centre and it's unfortunate (there are probably other words that could be used) that it has taken this long before the centre has a flagship shopping centre but, as with anything doesn't any progress despite the company or council take it's time? Now-a-days there are a million hoops to jump through because of all the external companies involved. If you were to say "Why don't you do it this way?" to the company you work for I'm sure that it wouldn't change tomorrow. Saying that, it is a long time coming but any improvements need to be supported by it's locals. A brand new shopping centre is being built for everyone to shop and eat in. A grand isn't being spent on miscellaneous random improvements that you might miss, millions are being spent on improving the City Centre. I live a 10 minute max drive from a City Centre, like others from Cardiff or Bristol who live that close, everyone should appreciate the money being spent to deal with what we already don't have.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sing up for the amber boys[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: When it's said, "if you don't like it (Newport) then jog off somewhere else" that is ironically the fact! People have "jogged off to somewhere else" en mass and most are not coming back in a hurry. I've noticed a vastly reduced footfall in Newport. A lot of the elderley still shop locally but they rely on public transport and so have little choice. Those of us with a private Lear jet, helicopter or reconditioned Vespa can shop in LA....or Cribbs.[/p][/quote]So you're now running a footfall census as well are you ?[/p][/quote]Do you imagine that M&S and all the other outlets that legged it out of the centre did so because the footfall had actually gone up? Pretending the town doesn't have an image problem won't help it succeed. Dealing with it might.[/p][/quote]I won't dispute that Newport has an image problem (even though I'm currently happy for it to cater for my shopping or social needs). Over the years I have always tried to champion Newport for the benefits it offers, not just the centre but everything that surrounds it. Like I have said in other posts I do think that people forget or do not realise or see other building improvements, new buildings, developments or changes in the City Centre. It is being dealt with; Newport isn't just about the City Centre and it's unfortunate (there are probably other words that could be used) that it has taken this long before the centre has a flagship shopping centre but, as with anything doesn't any progress despite the company or council take it's time? Now-a-days there are a million hoops to jump through because of all the external companies involved. If you were to say "Why don't you do it this way?" to the company you work for I'm sure that it wouldn't change tomorrow. Saying that, it is a long time coming but any improvements need to be supported by it's locals. A brand new shopping centre is being built for everyone to shop and eat in. A grand isn't being spent on miscellaneous random improvements that you might miss, millions are being spent on improving the City Centre. I live a 10 minute max drive from a City Centre, like others from Cardiff or Bristol who live that close, everyone should appreciate the money being spent to deal with what we already don't have. stjulians
  • Score: 5

2:12pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

landyman3030 wrote:
Welshlady11 wrote:
Yayyyyy! Positive news, will look foward to seeing Newport thriving again :)
Most definitely. too long Newport City Centre has been depressed form to long. I look forward to the new development at Friars Walk and the other areas of regeneration.
We must also not lose sight of the fact that it is not just the buildings and businesses which need care and supervision. The Council and the police should have a big push alongside whatever charities are available to deal with the groups of alcoholics and drug users who maintain a prescence in various areas most days. Gilligans Island ( or Mariners Green as it's now called ) has always had a group of dependents in place.
But now these groups are all over from Belle Vue Park, along Cardiff Road outside RGH, various places through the centre, around Old Green and Clarence Place and anywhere along the river. What is the point of a river route for walking and cycling when you have to contend with bodies laying around unconscious or never knowing what is around the corner. I stopped taking my children for rides down there which is a pity. Bristol was horrendous to walk around with beggars everywhere until they sorted it out a few years ago. Come on NCC. Make the streets safe for us Newport residents who want to use the Cities facilities without fear for our safety.
Exactly.
You don't see (or I haven't anyway) drunks etc hanging around the bay area of Cardiff.
As you point out, it is very important that they get this aspect right, otherwise it will ruin the enjoyment of the newly regenerated area and people will just stay away.
In the past, these undesirables would have been moved on or arrested if they refused.
With the advent of the politically correct human rights brigade however, the police seem a little reluctant to act.
It simply won't work unless you come down on this anti-social behaviour firmly.
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Welshlady11[/bold] wrote: Yayyyyy! Positive news, will look foward to seeing Newport thriving again :)[/p][/quote]Most definitely. too long Newport City Centre has been depressed form to long. I look forward to the new development at Friars Walk and the other areas of regeneration. We must also not lose sight of the fact that it is not just the buildings and businesses which need care and supervision. The Council and the police should have a big push alongside whatever charities are available to deal with the groups of alcoholics and drug users who maintain a prescence in various areas most days. Gilligans Island ( or Mariners Green as it's now called ) has always had a group of dependents in place. But now these groups are all over from Belle Vue Park, along Cardiff Road outside RGH, various places through the centre, around Old Green and Clarence Place and anywhere along the river. What is the point of a river route for walking and cycling when you have to contend with bodies laying around unconscious or never knowing what is around the corner. I stopped taking my children for rides down there which is a pity. Bristol was horrendous to walk around with beggars everywhere until they sorted it out a few years ago. Come on NCC. Make the streets safe for us Newport residents who want to use the Cities facilities without fear for our safety.[/p][/quote]Exactly. You don't see (or I haven't anyway) drunks etc hanging around the bay area of Cardiff. As you point out, it is very important that they get this aspect right, otherwise it will ruin the enjoyment of the newly regenerated area and people will just stay away. In the past, these undesirables would have been moved on or arrested if they refused. With the advent of the politically correct human rights brigade however, the police seem a little reluctant to act. It simply won't work unless you come down on this anti-social behaviour firmly. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 2

8:39pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Mervyn James says...

Cardiff Bae has a great security force there, anyone looking like a beggar or a druggie or simply wandering around looking shifty is moved on straight away, day or night. They have the Assembly there, the hotels and the Millennial Centre they won't let the usual suspects make that look bad, we need to do the same, zero tolerance. Result, families turn up, and are welcome, spend money, relax, in short civilized and normal behaviour can be carried on. It is so long since we have seen that in Newport. New centre new zero tolerance rules please.
Cardiff Bae has a great security force there, anyone looking like a beggar or a druggie or simply wandering around looking shifty is moved on straight away, day or night. They have the Assembly there, the hotels and the Millennial Centre they won't let the usual suspects make that look bad, we need to do the same, zero tolerance. Result, families turn up, and are welcome, spend money, relax, in short civilized and normal behaviour can be carried on. It is so long since we have seen that in Newport. New centre new zero tolerance rules please. Mervyn James
  • Score: 3

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