Newport snubbed with focus on Wales for Nato summit

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THERE was anger in Newport yesterday when the new Nato summit logo was revealed – not containing the city’s name.

Instead the bilingual English/French logo featured Nato Summit Wales.

The Transporter Bridge did make it onto the logo for the largest diplomatic event ever to be held in the UK, however, it sits beneath the heading: “The Wales Summit” despite it being held at the Celtic Manor Resort, Newport, in September this year.

The design, which was launched in Brussels yesterday, also features a Celtic knot, a dragon and Cardiff Castle. In past years the summit has always taken the name of its host city, whether it be Chicago, Lisbon, Istanbul or London.

Labour councillor Miqdad Al-Nuaimi vented his frustration online yesterday, calling on people’s support to use ‘Nato Summit Newport’.

Mr Al-Nuaimi said: “I’m not happy about it. I really don’t understand. Wales is not a city so why call it Nato Summit Wales? Why have we allowed that? Why have we not spoken against that?

“I think the people who should have spoken are those like the first minister. If it was in Cardiff or Swansea I’m sure [the city] would have been there. It’s almost like we are ashamed to put Newport, but that’s exactly what we want to push through this event.

“It’s going to come and go and after the event we’ll say ‘what were the benefits?’ It’s up to us now. This is Nato Summit Newport.”

Owain Vaughan, who lives in Newport, said: “Disgraceful. This is the Newport summit, not the Wales summit. The only identifying feature is a tiny stylised icon shoved in the bottom right corner. Every other summit has been named after the city in which it is hosted.”

In recent years logos for Nato summits in Riga, Budapest and Chicago have all featured the host city’s name, rather than that of the host country.

Welsh Secretary David Jones said: “It is important the whole of Wales should benefit.”

He said it was “unlikely” Newport could be sidelined “given that it is being held in Newport”.

Stephen Reynolds, from Malpas, is a stallholder in Newport market. He said: “It’s sickening they haven’t even bothered to name Newport. It always seems when events are put on in Newport we get disregarded. It’s the same as the Ryder Cup.

“We are the ones who are going to be put out and we’re not getting any benefits. It seems like an anti-Newport sentiment. If that’s the attitude, I’d rather not have it here.”

Cllr Chris Evans said: “The council, businesses and the people of Newport have to use [NATO] as an opportunity to showcase our city and show that we are bigger than any logo.”

Newport council leader Cllr Bob Bright said he had fought to get the Transporter Bridge on the logo, and added: “At the highest levels of government I have called for the City of Newport to be promoted whenever and wherever possible.”

William Hague, UK foreign secretary, said the bridge was “one of the iconic symbols of Newport”. He said he wanted Wales to have its event, like Scotland has the Commonwealth Games, England had the Olympics and Northern Ireland the G8.

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9:52am Thu 26 Jun 14

scraptheWAG says...

i think you have been very nieve about the whole thing Kevin, the mandarins down Cardiff bay despite starving newport of resources for the last decade effectively making the town the basket case it is today are now going to hijack the event . They will lay on buses into Cardiff during the event like they did on the Ryder cup and i can assure you
no one from the event will step foot in Newport town centre
i think you have been very nieve about the whole thing Kevin, the mandarins down Cardiff bay despite starving newport of resources for the last decade effectively making the town the basket case it is today are now going to hijack the event . They will lay on buses into Cardiff during the event like they did on the Ryder cup and i can assure you no one from the event will step foot in Newport town centre scraptheWAG
  • Score: 62

10:11am Thu 26 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

Its the "ARGUS/NATO" summit. I have already printed up the T.shirts with Obama and Kevin waving a late Argus at the angry Taliban. I am running off the matching pens, tea towels, baseball caps etc. at the weekend. First come first served, no refunds. Argus Reader discount...quote; "Argus Nato Summit".
Its the "ARGUS/NATO" summit. I have already printed up the T.shirts with Obama and Kevin waving a late Argus at the angry Taliban. I am running off the matching pens, tea towels, baseball caps etc. at the weekend. First come first served, no refunds. Argus Reader discount...quote; "Argus Nato Summit". KarloMarko
  • Score: -8

10:12am Thu 26 Jun 14

blaina says...

its wales summit not newport mind you cant have everything you have the bridge what more do you want very sefish i think
its wales summit not newport mind you cant have everything you have the bridge what more do you want very sefish i think blaina
  • Score: -39

10:14am Thu 26 Jun 14

Fingers On The Pulse says...

Is this what it takes for the people of Newport to get "angry"? Not the decline of our city centre? Not the lack of funding for the police? Not the lenient sentences for assault, drug dealing? Not the increase in anti social behaviour? Not the drain on the NHS in Wales? Not the fact that public services are cut to the bone? Not the fact that we still send billions in "aid" to other countries while the people in THIS country struggle?

Lets face it, the impact this event will have on the people of Newport is traffic disruption, nothing more nothing less. Do you really think these diplomats are going to do any shopping? Eat anywhere but the Celtic Manor? etc etc etc

Lets get passionate about things that DO matter!!

Rant over
Is this what it takes for the people of Newport to get "angry"? Not the decline of our city centre? Not the lack of funding for the police? Not the lenient sentences for assault, drug dealing? Not the increase in anti social behaviour? Not the drain on the NHS in Wales? Not the fact that public services are cut to the bone? Not the fact that we still send billions in "aid" to other countries while the people in THIS country struggle? Lets face it, the impact this event will have on the people of Newport is traffic disruption, nothing more nothing less. Do you really think these diplomats are going to do any shopping? Eat anywhere but the Celtic Manor? etc etc etc Lets get passionate about things that DO matter!! Rant over Fingers On The Pulse
  • Score: 52

10:17am Thu 26 Jun 14

blaina says...

You spitting your dummies out again you did the same and sulked when they wanted to call rugby team gwent dragons no we had to have newport put into gwent dragons grow up for goodness sake like i said above its wales summit not newport .
You spitting your dummies out again you did the same and sulked when they wanted to call rugby team gwent dragons no we had to have newport put into gwent dragons grow up for goodness sake like i said above its wales summit not newport . blaina
  • Score: -31

10:20am Thu 26 Jun 14

Woodgnome says...

They don't want Newport in the name because of it's current national reputation as a city in decline with Council leaders who demolish heritage without a thought.
Let's hope the city is now on the up as there are now signs of some forethought but a lot still needs to be done
They don't want Newport in the name because of it's current national reputation as a city in decline with Council leaders who demolish heritage without a thought. Let's hope the city is now on the up as there are now signs of some forethought but a lot still needs to be done Woodgnome
  • Score: 17

10:20am Thu 26 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

Nato's secretary general, and Head of Drones, Anders Fogh Rasmussen , says, "Stoptz moaninz Newport peasants! You vill obez ze Nato! Resistanze iz futil. You seez how ve bombe Afghanistan and Libya? Stopz all the whinninz now orz youz the nextz! An yourz stupid tin bridge!"
Nato's secretary general, and Head of Drones, Anders Fogh Rasmussen , says, "Stoptz moaninz Newport peasants! You vill obez ze Nato! Resistanze iz futil. You seez how ve bombe Afghanistan and Libya? Stopz all the whinninz now orz youz the nextz! An yourz stupid tin bridge!" KarloMarko
  • Score: -19

10:23am Thu 26 Jun 14

scraptheWAG says...

Fingers On The Pulse wrote:
Is this what it takes for the people of Newport to get "angry"? Not the decline of our city centre? Not the lack of funding for the police? Not the lenient sentences for assault, drug dealing? Not the increase in anti social behaviour? Not the drain on the NHS in Wales? Not the fact that public services are cut to the bone? Not the fact that we still send billions in "aid" to other countries while the people in THIS country struggle?

Lets face it, the impact this event will have on the people of Newport is traffic disruption, nothing more nothing less. Do you really think these diplomats are going to do any shopping? Eat anywhere but the Celtic Manor? etc etc etc

Lets get passionate about things that DO matter!!

Rant over
yes things are a mess in wales and i suspect you still vote labour
[quote][p][bold]Fingers On The Pulse[/bold] wrote: Is this what it takes for the people of Newport to get "angry"? Not the decline of our city centre? Not the lack of funding for the police? Not the lenient sentences for assault, drug dealing? Not the increase in anti social behaviour? Not the drain on the NHS in Wales? Not the fact that public services are cut to the bone? Not the fact that we still send billions in "aid" to other countries while the people in THIS country struggle? Lets face it, the impact this event will have on the people of Newport is traffic disruption, nothing more nothing less. Do you really think these diplomats are going to do any shopping? Eat anywhere but the Celtic Manor? etc etc etc Lets get passionate about things that DO matter!! Rant over[/p][/quote]yes things are a mess in wales and i suspect you still vote labour scraptheWAG
  • Score: 17

10:52am Thu 26 Jun 14

Ultimate Worrier says...

KarloMarko wrote:
Its the "ARGUS/NATO" summit. I have already printed up the T.shirts with Obama and Kevin waving a late Argus at the angry Taliban. I am running off the matching pens, tea towels, baseball caps etc. at the weekend. First come first served, no refunds. Argus Reader discount...quote; "Argus Nato Summit".
Hahaha!!
[quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: Its the "ARGUS/NATO" summit. I have already printed up the T.shirts with Obama and Kevin waving a late Argus at the angry Taliban. I am running off the matching pens, tea towels, baseball caps etc. at the weekend. First come first served, no refunds. Argus Reader discount...quote; "Argus Nato Summit".[/p][/quote]Hahaha!! Ultimate Worrier
  • Score: -17

10:58am Thu 26 Jun 14

Rossykins says...

It is a pity that the City which is holding the Nato event is not mentioned. They will not I suppose, because of security be going outside the Celtic Manor. This event must be marketed agressively. Cardiff will hijack it, if given the opportunity. Every local newspaper, boardings, public places, etc must emphasise it's being held in Newport. Let's hope the television channels also mention Newport. Talking with the various news channels well before the event would be a good tactic. Let's hope that Newport get their act together well before this event.
It is a pity that the City which is holding the Nato event is not mentioned. They will not I suppose, because of security be going outside the Celtic Manor. This event must be marketed agressively. Cardiff will hijack it, if given the opportunity. Every local newspaper, boardings, public places, etc must emphasise it's being held in Newport. Let's hope the television channels also mention Newport. Talking with the various news channels well before the event would be a good tactic. Let's hope that Newport get their act together well before this event. Rossykins
  • Score: 17

10:58am Thu 26 Jun 14

Casnewydd lad says...

How can the council tell us to take pride in newport when not even the wag or newport city concil can bear to even say the n word???? Another wedge put in place by the wag, council, and terry Matthews
How can the council tell us to take pride in newport when not even the wag or newport city concil can bear to even say the n word???? Another wedge put in place by the wag, council, and terry Matthews Casnewydd lad
  • Score: 14

11:12am Thu 26 Jun 14

Walter Devereux says...

Casnewydd lad wrote:
How can the council tell us to take pride in newport when not even the wag or newport city concil can bear to even say the n word???? Another wedge put in place by the wag, council, and terry Matthews
You cannot blame the council. It looks as if the first they heard of the snub was yesterday just like the rest of us...
[quote][p][bold]Casnewydd lad[/bold] wrote: How can the council tell us to take pride in newport when not even the wag or newport city concil can bear to even say the n word???? Another wedge put in place by the wag, council, and terry Matthews[/p][/quote]You cannot blame the council. It looks as if the first they heard of the snub was yesterday just like the rest of us... Walter Devereux
  • Score: 17

12:05pm Thu 26 Jun 14

bobmech1 says...

Why is anyone surprised about this
Be honest we all really knew this would happen, don't forget the Celtic Manor Resort is in the 'Vale of Usk' not Newport.
Though if the Council is that upset, they could refuse planning permission for the Conference centre plans, though this would be overturned by the WAG, but it would be a costly procedure for their appeals.
Newport however you look at it isn't very highly regarded by anyone in the world out there. The council had to pit a 90 Million debt arpund the city's neck to build ' Friars Walk' as no one would finance it and you can bet something will happen that the building company won't be left with the bill but the city's council tax payers will end up paying it
Why is anyone surprised about this Be honest we all really knew this would happen, don't forget the Celtic Manor Resort is in the 'Vale of Usk' not Newport. Though if the Council is that upset, they could refuse planning permission for the Conference centre plans, though this would be overturned by the WAG, but it would be a costly procedure for their appeals. Newport however you look at it isn't very highly regarded by anyone in the world out there. The council had to pit a 90 Million debt arpund the city's neck to build ' Friars Walk' as no one would finance it and you can bet something will happen that the building company won't be left with the bill but the city's council tax payers will end up paying it bobmech1
  • Score: 15

12:22pm Thu 26 Jun 14

p stani says...

Get your blinkers off,its not exactly Chicago or Istanbul,its an old very tired and dirty old town in S Wales fact.I am sure some people on here have never been further than the traffic lights on the Coldra.
Get your blinkers off,its not exactly Chicago or Istanbul,its an old very tired and dirty old town in S Wales fact.I am sure some people on here have never been further than the traffic lights on the Coldra. p stani
  • Score: -6

12:31pm Thu 26 Jun 14

ExNewport says...

I don't know what all the fuss is about! The summit isn't even being held in Newport - it's being held at the Celtic Manor which is in 'the vale of Usk' as we found out with the Ryder Cup!!
I don't know what all the fuss is about! The summit isn't even being held in Newport - it's being held at the Celtic Manor which is in 'the vale of Usk' as we found out with the Ryder Cup!! ExNewport
  • Score: 15

12:53pm Thu 26 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

I haven't been this angry since the last time I was this angry! Still, the anarchists know its the "Newport Nato Warmongers Garden Party." and thats what counts....
I haven't been this angry since the last time I was this angry! Still, the anarchists know its the "Newport Nato Warmongers Garden Party." and thats what counts.... KarloMarko
  • Score: -3

12:58pm Thu 26 Jun 14

throwy1 says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
i think you have been very nieve about the whole thing Kevin, the mandarins down Cardiff bay despite starving newport of resources for the last decade effectively making the town the basket case it is today are now going to hijack the event . They will lay on buses into Cardiff during the event like they did on the Ryder cup and i can assure you
no one from the event will step foot in Newport town centre
Thank goodness for that if they do bus the delegates to Cardiff. Look at the centre of Newport, would anyone honestly want World Leaders visiting it?
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: i think you have been very nieve about the whole thing Kevin, the mandarins down Cardiff bay despite starving newport of resources for the last decade effectively making the town the basket case it is today are now going to hijack the event . They will lay on buses into Cardiff during the event like they did on the Ryder cup and i can assure you no one from the event will step foot in Newport town centre[/p][/quote]Thank goodness for that if they do bus the delegates to Cardiff. Look at the centre of Newport, would anyone honestly want World Leaders visiting it? throwy1
  • Score: 10

1:00pm Thu 26 Jun 14

artsfan says...

NoNatoNewport will be bringing in a lot of peace activists who will be supporting local businesses. I would much rather be associated with them than with rich people banqueting around tables at the Celtic Manor deciding on where next to bomb. Support Stop Nato Cymru and NoNatoNewport and count yourselves lucky to be alive unlike the poor innocents NATO is murdering daily.
NoNatoNewport will be bringing in a lot of peace activists who will be supporting local businesses. I would much rather be associated with them than with rich people banqueting around tables at the Celtic Manor deciding on where next to bomb. Support Stop Nato Cymru and NoNatoNewport and count yourselves lucky to be alive unlike the poor innocents NATO is murdering daily. artsfan
  • Score: 4

1:05pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Walter Devereux says...

I wish people would stop repeating the tired old "Vale of Usk" arguments. Mr Matthews changed his mind on that ages ago. What is wrong with the centre of Newport anyway? Plenty of interesting architecture and urban regeneration going on. Do you really think the World leaders would use any restaurants or shops anyway?
I wish people would stop repeating the tired old "Vale of Usk" arguments. Mr Matthews changed his mind on that ages ago. What is wrong with the centre of Newport anyway? Plenty of interesting architecture and urban regeneration going on. Do you really think the World leaders would use any restaurants or shops anyway? Walter Devereux
  • Score: 19

1:09pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?
Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that? Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: -2

1:16pm Thu 26 Jun 14

daveglyn says...

Casnewydd lad wrote:
How can the council tell us to take pride in newport when not even the wag or newport city concil can bear to even say the n word???? Another wedge put in place by the wag, council, and terry Matthews
What influence do you think Mr Mathews would have on the naming of the event. Do you think Mr.Obama would be ringing him up for advice. Grow up.
[quote][p][bold]Casnewydd lad[/bold] wrote: How can the council tell us to take pride in newport when not even the wag or newport city concil can bear to even say the n word???? Another wedge put in place by the wag, council, and terry Matthews[/p][/quote]What influence do you think Mr Mathews would have on the naming of the event. Do you think Mr.Obama would be ringing him up for advice. Grow up. daveglyn
  • Score: 8

1:18pm Thu 26 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

Lots of shady shades geezers with buzz cuts and tight black suits walking around Caerleon! Could be the CIA or local spotty yoofs flogging Sky dishes...

And, I think I saw a tank in St Julians woods. ..or it could have been a nicked gas boiler...
Lots of shady shades geezers with buzz cuts and tight black suits walking around Caerleon! Could be the CIA or local spotty yoofs flogging Sky dishes... And, I think I saw a tank in St Julians woods. ..or it could have been a nicked gas boiler... KarloMarko
  • Score: -3

1:30pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Walter Devereux says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?
There are several Londons and Brussels too... what is your point? And please stop bleating on about "the language of the country that it takes place in" not being on the logo when it has it in English.
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?[/p][/quote]There are several Londons and Brussels too... what is your point? And please stop bleating on about "the language of the country that it takes place in" not being on the logo when it has it in English. Walter Devereux
  • Score: 1

1:57pm Thu 26 Jun 14

altom23 says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?
scrapthe WAG I can not understand why you are not complaining profusely that this NATO logo is bilingual. (Usual rant is that it costs a lot of money etc etc) But I suppose you are quite happy to see any sign / notice / Logo in English and French, but heaven forbid if it includes any Welsh! Enough said!
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?[/p][/quote]scrapthe WAG I can not understand why you are not complaining profusely that this NATO logo is bilingual. (Usual rant is that it costs a lot of money etc etc) But I suppose you are quite happy to see any sign / notice / Logo in English and French, but heaven forbid if it includes any Welsh! Enough said! altom23
  • Score: 1

1:57pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Woodgnome says...

Much ore likely that the Tories were not going to do the die hard old Labour Newport Council with the likes of anti NATO Paul Flynn any favours.
Much ore likely that the Tories were not going to do the die hard old Labour Newport Council with the likes of anti NATO Paul Flynn any favours. Woodgnome
  • Score: 1

2:14pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Eveswell Elvis says...

Anyone who believes that Newport will get anything out of the NATO summit other than traffic disruption, Orwellian security measures and our kids having a cheeky day off school is sadly deluded. Just as the Ryder Cup illustrated the organisers will ignore Newport and use either the onsite facilities or be airlifted / bussed into Cardiff, which quite frankly I would want to do.
Really, were you expecting David Cameron, Barack Obama and Angela Merkel unwinding after a hard days negotiation with cheese and chips from Boomers or perhaps having a pint in The Picton?
Anyone who believes that Newport will get anything out of the NATO summit other than traffic disruption, Orwellian security measures and our kids having a cheeky day off school is sadly deluded. Just as the Ryder Cup illustrated the organisers will ignore Newport and use either the onsite facilities or be airlifted / bussed into Cardiff, which quite frankly I would want to do. Really, were you expecting David Cameron, Barack Obama and Angela Merkel unwinding after a hard days negotiation with cheese and chips from Boomers or perhaps having a pint in The Picton? Eveswell Elvis
  • Score: 13

2:26pm Thu 26 Jun 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

blaina wrote:
its wales summit not newport mind you cant have everything you have the bridge what more do you want very sefish i think
Read the article. Consistency is what's wanted; these conferences have ALWAYS used the name of the host city.
[quote][p][bold]blaina[/bold] wrote: its wales summit not newport mind you cant have everything you have the bridge what more do you want very sefish i think[/p][/quote]Read the article. Consistency is what's wanted; these conferences have ALWAYS used the name of the host city. The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: 12

3:08pm Thu 26 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

It that case it should be the CAERLEON summit cos I can see Tel Boy's gloomy castle from my front window! Right now Paul Flynn is cleaning Mathew's old work boots and Rosy Butler has a French maids outfit on and is serving hot scones to the CIA. It aint a pretty sight. Here comes John Griffith with his old bike and a bucket.
It that case it should be the CAERLEON summit cos I can see Tel Boy's gloomy castle from my front window! Right now Paul Flynn is cleaning Mathew's old work boots and Rosy Butler has a French maids outfit on and is serving hot scones to the CIA. It aint a pretty sight. Here comes John Griffith with his old bike and a bucket. KarloMarko
  • Score: 3

4:25pm Thu 26 Jun 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?
We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?[/p][/quote]We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking. The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: 0

4:32pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Port0214 says...

The "N word" it speaks endless volumes about this city, they (the WAG Matthews and the like) are ashamed to be associated with us.

And still the Zombies vote Labour.
The "N word" it speaks endless volumes about this city, they (the WAG Matthews and the like) are ashamed to be associated with us. And still the Zombies vote Labour. Port0214
  • Score: -1

4:44pm Thu 26 Jun 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

Port0214 wrote:
The "N word" it speaks endless volumes about this city, they (the WAG Matthews and the like) are ashamed to be associated with us.

And still the Zombies vote Labour.
NATO is a organisation comprised of sovereign states, Wales not being one, rather a constitutive part of the UK. Given that, I would wager the UK Government, not Welsh Government, had the greatest say in this being a NATO member. As conspiratorial as people would often like things to be, the reality is invariably more banal than one would expect. I'm taking Hague's explanation at face value.
[quote][p][bold]Port0214[/bold] wrote: The "N word" it speaks endless volumes about this city, they (the WAG Matthews and the like) are ashamed to be associated with us. And still the Zombies vote Labour.[/p][/quote]NATO is a organisation comprised of sovereign states, Wales not being one, rather a constitutive part of the UK. Given that, I would wager the UK Government, not Welsh Government, had the greatest say in this being a NATO member. As conspiratorial as people would often like things to be, the reality is invariably more banal than one would expect. I'm taking Hague's explanation at face value. The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: 6

4:48pm Thu 26 Jun 14

mep says...

Newport seems a name people try to avoid, we have with rugby with the coach not prepared to mention the word Newport now this nonsense.
Perhaps someone will print tee shirts and other goods with Newport instead of Wales on the logo.
Newport seems a name people try to avoid, we have with rugby with the coach not prepared to mention the word Newport now this nonsense. Perhaps someone will print tee shirts and other goods with Newport instead of Wales on the logo. mep
  • Score: 3

5:12pm Thu 26 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

When this fiasco goes belly up for "Greater Newport", as did Ryder except to further promote Baron Terry Mathews and his property portfolio, can we please have a LONG period of silence and reflection from those who pimp it? Cheesy politicians, "h'academics" looking for quick buck, local newspapers et al puffing themselves in the "global local world class hi tech iconic opportunity max spotlight"? Cos we are no longer listening.
When this fiasco goes belly up for "Greater Newport", as did Ryder except to further promote Baron Terry Mathews and his property portfolio, can we please have a LONG period of silence and reflection from those who pimp it? Cheesy politicians, "h'academics" looking for quick buck, local newspapers et al puffing themselves in the "global local world class hi tech iconic opportunity max spotlight"? Cos we are no longer listening. KarloMarko
  • Score: -5

5:29pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Llanmartinangel says...

The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?
We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.
English is the language of Wales, however much the nationalist nutters try to pretend otherwise. Virtually everyone here speaks it, anyone who can't certainly doesn't speak Welsh either.
[quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?[/p][/quote]We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.[/p][/quote]English is the language of Wales, however much the nationalist nutters try to pretend otherwise. Virtually everyone here speaks it, anyone who can't certainly doesn't speak Welsh either. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 11

6:49pm Thu 26 Jun 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?
We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.
English is the language of Wales, however much the nationalist nutters try to pretend otherwise. Virtually everyone here speaks it, anyone who can't certainly doesn't speak Welsh either.
Oh my, the day has come. We agree.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?[/p][/quote]We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.[/p][/quote]English is the language of Wales, however much the nationalist nutters try to pretend otherwise. Virtually everyone here speaks it, anyone who can't certainly doesn't speak Welsh either.[/p][/quote]Oh my, the day has come. We agree. The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: 1

7:04pm Thu 26 Jun 14

bobmech1 says...

Just a thought
With all the trouble and destruction at the other NATO conferences, ids it avunning plan for re protestors to wreck Newport?
There again would anyone notice
Just a thought With all the trouble and destruction at the other NATO conferences, ids it avunning plan for re protestors to wreck Newport? There again would anyone notice bobmech1
  • Score: -4

7:15pm Thu 26 Jun 14

mrleebob says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
i think you have been very nieve about the whole thing Kevin, the mandarins down Cardiff bay despite starving newport of resources for the last decade effectively making the town the basket case it is today are now going to hijack the event . They will lay on buses into Cardiff during the event like they did on the Ryder cup and i can assure you
no one from the event will step foot in Newport town centre
What does nieve mean?
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: i think you have been very nieve about the whole thing Kevin, the mandarins down Cardiff bay despite starving newport of resources for the last decade effectively making the town the basket case it is today are now going to hijack the event . They will lay on buses into Cardiff during the event like they did on the Ryder cup and i can assure you no one from the event will step foot in Newport town centre[/p][/quote]What does nieve mean? mrleebob
  • Score: 4

7:18pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?
We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.
English is the language of Wales, however much the nationalist nutters try to pretend otherwise. Virtually everyone here speaks it, anyone who can't certainly doesn't speak Welsh either.
I suppose since French is the only other language on the logo everyone here speaks French, too - n'est pas?;)
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?[/p][/quote]We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.[/p][/quote]English is the language of Wales, however much the nationalist nutters try to pretend otherwise. Virtually everyone here speaks it, anyone who can't certainly doesn't speak Welsh either.[/p][/quote]I suppose since French is the only other language on the logo everyone here speaks French, too - n'est pas?;) Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 6

7:21pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?
We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.
...And French, too - ooh you Norman conqueror, you!;)
[quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?[/p][/quote]We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.[/p][/quote]...And French, too - ooh you Norman conqueror, you!;) Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 0

7:24pm Thu 26 Jun 14

scraptheWAG says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?
We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.
English is the language of Wales, however much the nationalist nutters try to pretend otherwise. Virtually everyone here speaks it, anyone who can't certainly doesn't speak Welsh either.
but its the living language lol and it keeps meris hughes in her 100k plus a year job .
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?[/p][/quote]We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.[/p][/quote]English is the language of Wales, however much the nationalist nutters try to pretend otherwise. Virtually everyone here speaks it, anyone who can't certainly doesn't speak Welsh either.[/p][/quote]but its the living language lol and it keeps meris hughes in her 100k plus a year job . scraptheWAG
  • Score: 6

7:26pm Thu 26 Jun 14

blackandamber says...

You know the best thing Newport and Monmouthshire is to go back to being in England we would be better off in so many ways. After all it was fiddled into Wales in the middle of the night in parliament.
You know the best thing Newport and Monmouthshire is to go back to being in England we would be better off in so many ways. After all it was fiddled into Wales in the middle of the night in parliament. blackandamber
  • Score: 3

7:30pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Casnewydd lad says...

daveglyn wrote:
Casnewydd lad wrote:
How can the council tell us to take pride in newport when not even the wag or newport city concil can bear to even say the n word???? Another wedge put in place by the wag, council, and terry Matthews
What influence do you think Mr Mathews would have on the naming of the event. Do you think Mr.Obama would be ringing him up for advice. Grow up.
It is well know that mr Matthews hates the name newport being used when the Celtic manor is being spoken about
[quote][p][bold]daveglyn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Casnewydd lad[/bold] wrote: How can the council tell us to take pride in newport when not even the wag or newport city concil can bear to even say the n word???? Another wedge put in place by the wag, council, and terry Matthews[/p][/quote]What influence do you think Mr Mathews would have on the naming of the event. Do you think Mr.Obama would be ringing him up for advice. Grow up.[/p][/quote]It is well know that mr Matthews hates the name newport being used when the Celtic manor is being spoken about Casnewydd lad
  • Score: 2

7:37pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Vision2 says...

The submit is in Newport, the Celtic Manor is in Ringland. Be proud people nothing wrong with that at all. Newport retail park is booming, soon the city centre will be too. Crime in Newport is not high at all. It's the perception don't let it be your reality.
The submit is in Newport, the Celtic Manor is in Ringland. Be proud people nothing wrong with that at all. Newport retail park is booming, soon the city centre will be too. Crime in Newport is not high at all. It's the perception don't let it be your reality. Vision2
  • Score: 11

7:42pm Thu 26 Jun 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?
We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.
English is the language of Wales, however much the nationalist nutters try to pretend otherwise. Virtually everyone here speaks it, anyone who can't certainly doesn't speak Welsh either.
I suppose since French is the only other language on the logo everyone here speaks French, too - n'est pas?;)
Separate issue. French is the language of international diplomacy.
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?[/p][/quote]We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.[/p][/quote]English is the language of Wales, however much the nationalist nutters try to pretend otherwise. Virtually everyone here speaks it, anyone who can't certainly doesn't speak Welsh either.[/p][/quote]I suppose since French is the only other language on the logo everyone here speaks French, too - n'est pas?;)[/p][/quote]Separate issue. French is the language of international diplomacy. The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: 2

8:08pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Dano1967 says...

You ask an American where Wales is and they will tell you it's a small town in England, near London.
This Wales summit thing is not going to help that misconception.
You ask an American where Wales is and they will tell you it's a small town in England, near London. This Wales summit thing is not going to help that misconception. Dano1967
  • Score: 9

8:30pm Thu 26 Jun 14

mrleebob says...

Dano1967 wrote:
You ask an American where Wales is and they will tell you it's a small town in England, near London.
This Wales summit thing is not going to help that misconception.
Americans thinking Wales is near London is a misconception. Most Americans know where Wales is. Of course, it IS near London if relative to US distances.
[quote][p][bold]Dano1967[/bold] wrote: You ask an American where Wales is and they will tell you it's a small town in England, near London. This Wales summit thing is not going to help that misconception.[/p][/quote]Americans thinking Wales is near London is a misconception. Most Americans know where Wales is. Of course, it IS near London if relative to US distances. mrleebob
  • Score: -1

8:31pm Thu 26 Jun 14

sooty001 says...

Would have been nice if it had said Newport Summit and then put it in Welsh instead of French, people would have asked what language it was, thus more recognition (sounds simple but effective ).
Would have been nice if it had said Newport Summit and then put it in Welsh instead of French, people would have asked what language it was, thus more recognition (sounds simple but effective ). sooty001
  • Score: -1

8:42pm Thu 26 Jun 14

bluebanana says...

I couldn't tell you the names of previous NATO summits or what their logos looked like. That's how much of an impact they had. Just because the name of a place is (will be) in the news, doesn't mean loads of tourists/businesses are going to come flocking.
I couldn't tell you the names of previous NATO summits or what their logos looked like. That's how much of an impact they had. Just because the name of a place is (will be) in the news, doesn't mean loads of tourists/businesses are going to come flocking. bluebanana
  • Score: 1

8:49pm Thu 26 Jun 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

bluebanana wrote:
I couldn't tell you the names of previous NATO summits or what their logos looked like. That's how much of an impact they had. Just because the name of a place is (will be) in the news, doesn't mean loads of tourists/businesses are going to come flocking.
True, but anything helps. Newport needs all recognition available.
[quote][p][bold]bluebanana[/bold] wrote: I couldn't tell you the names of previous NATO summits or what their logos looked like. That's how much of an impact they had. Just because the name of a place is (will be) in the news, doesn't mean loads of tourists/businesses are going to come flocking.[/p][/quote]True, but anything helps. Newport needs all recognition available. The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: 8

9:00pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?
We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.
English is the language of Wales, however much the nationalist nutters try to pretend otherwise. Virtually everyone here speaks it, anyone who can't certainly doesn't speak Welsh either.
I suppose since French is the only other language on the logo everyone here speaks French, too - n'est pas?;)
Separate issue. French is the language of international diplomacy.
You're right. Must confess, I did not know this. Apparently it turns out that French was more internationally recognised and used than English up until the time the tide turned around 1763 as France was the most prominent superpower in the world - hence the reason it is still used today in politically-charged events such as NATO summits - and the Eurovision Song Contest...
[quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?[/p][/quote]We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.[/p][/quote]English is the language of Wales, however much the nationalist nutters try to pretend otherwise. Virtually everyone here speaks it, anyone who can't certainly doesn't speak Welsh either.[/p][/quote]I suppose since French is the only other language on the logo everyone here speaks French, too - n'est pas?;)[/p][/quote]Separate issue. French is the language of international diplomacy.[/p][/quote]You're right. Must confess, I did not know this. Apparently it turns out that French was more internationally recognised and used than English up until the time the tide turned around 1763 as France was the most prominent superpower in the world - hence the reason it is still used today in politically-charged events such as NATO summits - and the Eurovision Song Contest... Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 3

9:10pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Foxyboy3rd says...

The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Port0214 wrote:
The "N word" it speaks endless volumes about this city, they (the WAG Matthews and the like) are ashamed to be associated with us.

And still the Zombies vote Labour.
NATO is a organisation comprised of sovereign states, Wales not being one, rather a constitutive part of the UK. Given that, I would wager the UK Government, not Welsh Government, had the greatest say in this being a NATO member. As conspiratorial as people would often like things to be, the reality is invariably more banal than one would expect. I'm taking Hague's explanation at face value.
NATO doesn't only comprise of Sovereign States The USA. Germany, Italy, France etc. are not Sovereign States.
Monmouthshire has never been English just included in the Oxford court circuit.
If someone asked you which European country forced it's smaller neighbour to ban the teaching of it's own language in its own schools and made its Citizens change the names that "They " couldn't understand to biblical names , Surnames like, Amos, Abraham, Daniel,David, John, Moses, Jeremiah , Thomas etc.etc or Jones.
If you didn't see the names you might think that it was Stalinist Russia or Nazi Germany, outside of Britain people would never have known that England did it to the Welsh.
[quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Port0214[/bold] wrote: The "N word" it speaks endless volumes about this city, they (the WAG Matthews and the like) are ashamed to be associated with us. And still the Zombies vote Labour.[/p][/quote]NATO is a organisation comprised of sovereign states, Wales not being one, rather a constitutive part of the UK. Given that, I would wager the UK Government, not Welsh Government, had the greatest say in this being a NATO member. As conspiratorial as people would often like things to be, the reality is invariably more banal than one would expect. I'm taking Hague's explanation at face value.[/p][/quote]NATO doesn't only comprise of Sovereign States The USA. Germany, Italy, France etc. are not Sovereign States. Monmouthshire has never been English just included in the Oxford court circuit. If someone asked you which European country forced it's smaller neighbour to ban the teaching of it's own language in its own schools and made its Citizens change the names that "They " couldn't understand to biblical names , Surnames like, Amos, Abraham, Daniel,David, John, Moses, Jeremiah , Thomas etc.etc or Jones. If you didn't see the names you might think that it was Stalinist Russia or Nazi Germany, outside of Britain people would never have known that England did it to the Welsh. Foxyboy3rd
  • Score: 4

10:18pm Thu 26 Jun 14

MajorCrimes says...

I dont really understand why everyone is moaning about wether it says Newport or not it is a summit for NATO, there are more important things you should all be worrying about and that is what is discussed at the NATO confrence. They basically decide who we go to war with etc, but all you care about is wether they mention Newport in the title. What you will see is alot of people protesting as close as they can get to the Celtic Manor. Its not like a super fun day with guests at the Celtic, celebs wont be popping in, they have probably chosen Newport as most people dont even no what NATO is or does so they can come in have there high power meeting and leave, without any disorder, but there will be disorder because people will come and they will demonstrate to the warmongers who are coming to decide the fate of innocent people worldwide. Stop moaning about them not mentioning Newport and get REAL
I dont really understand why everyone is moaning about wether it says Newport or not it is a summit for NATO, there are more important things you should all be worrying about and that is what is discussed at the NATO confrence. They basically decide who we go to war with etc, but all you care about is wether they mention Newport in the title. What you will see is alot of people protesting as close as they can get to the Celtic Manor. Its not like a super fun day with guests at the Celtic, celebs wont be popping in, they have probably chosen Newport as most people dont even no what NATO is or does so they can come in have there high power meeting and leave, without any disorder, but there will be disorder because people will come and they will demonstrate to the warmongers who are coming to decide the fate of innocent people worldwide. Stop moaning about them not mentioning Newport and get REAL MajorCrimes
  • Score: -4

10:29pm Thu 26 Jun 14

MajorCrimes says...

Ha South Wales Argus message saying some of my comments are upsetting people. Freedom of speech at its greatest im sure my previous message will disappear SWA u r a joke
Ha South Wales Argus message saying some of my comments are upsetting people. Freedom of speech at its greatest im sure my previous message will disappear SWA u r a joke MajorCrimes
  • Score: -3

10:31pm Thu 26 Jun 14

Walter Devereux says...

blackandamber wrote:
You know the best thing Newport and Monmouthshire is to go back to being in England we would be better off in so many ways. After all it was fiddled into Wales in the middle of the night in parliament.
God bless Gerald Kaufman!
[quote][p][bold]blackandamber[/bold] wrote: You know the best thing Newport and Monmouthshire is to go back to being in England we would be better off in so many ways. After all it was fiddled into Wales in the middle of the night in parliament.[/p][/quote]God bless Gerald Kaufman! Walter Devereux
  • Score: 4

10:34pm Thu 26 Jun 14

CaptainB says...

The summit is coming, don't expect President Obama to be meeting and greeting locals, this is a world event, and a credit to Newport and the Celtic Manor.
Looking at my crystal ball, the adding of a 4,000 seater conference centre is going to make it even more attractive in the future.
Look for the positives this will give Newport, Gwent and Wales, every Americans son will want to come here to spend his dollars. Newport is the gateway to a fabulous South Wales coast, theres none finer!!!
Next thing for this column to advocate may be Ringland declaring UDI, or the Gaer going its own way, at this time only unity will show Wales at its BEST!!!
The summit is coming, don't expect President Obama to be meeting and greeting locals, this is a world event, and a credit to Newport and the Celtic Manor. Looking at my crystal ball, the adding of a 4,000 seater conference centre is going to make it even more attractive in the future. Look for the positives this will give Newport, Gwent and Wales, every Americans son will want to come here to spend his dollars. Newport is the gateway to a fabulous South Wales coast, theres none finer!!! Next thing for this column to advocate may be Ringland declaring UDI, or the Gaer going its own way, at this time only unity will show Wales at its BEST!!! CaptainB
  • Score: 0

1:42am Fri 27 Jun 14

artsfan says...

MajorCrimes wrote:
Ha South Wales Argus message saying some of my comments are upsetting people. Freedom of speech at its greatest im sure my previous message will disappear SWA u r a joke
Seriously? There is nothing offensive about your post. I said something along the same lines too. It's going to be more than a single day of protesting though, with people coming from all over the world to join in. Quite right too. We actually need more people around here to get off their butts and say no, we don't want war, no we don't want NATO, no we don't want any more drones workshops for kids in our city etc., etc., etc...
[quote][p][bold]MajorCrimes[/bold] wrote: Ha South Wales Argus message saying some of my comments are upsetting people. Freedom of speech at its greatest im sure my previous message will disappear SWA u r a joke[/p][/quote]Seriously? There is nothing offensive about your post. I said something along the same lines too. It's going to be more than a single day of protesting though, with people coming from all over the world to join in. Quite right too. We actually need more people around here to get off their butts and say no, we don't want war, no we don't want NATO, no we don't want any more drones workshops for kids in our city etc., etc., etc... artsfan
  • Score: 0

3:11am Fri 27 Jun 14

scraptheWAG says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?
We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.
English is the language of Wales, however much the nationalist nutters try to pretend otherwise. Virtually everyone here speaks it, anyone who can't certainly doesn't speak Welsh either.
I suppose since French is the only other language on the logo everyone here speaks French, too - n'est pas?;)
Separate issue. French is the language of international diplomacy.
You're right. Must confess, I did not know this. Apparently it turns out that French was more internationally recognised and used than English up until the time the tide turned around 1763 as France was the most prominent superpower in the world - hence the reason it is still used today in politically-charged events such as NATO summits - and the Eurovision Song Contest...
what about welsh language????
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Maybe the organisers didn't put Newport on the logo because there are seveal Newports and they were afraid that the delegates would turn up at the wrong one?:) I mean, there's a Newport, Rhode Island for instance that could get the yanks confused - and even a Nieuport in Belgium. On that note, since the bilingual logo features English and French as opposed to English and Welsh perhaps the organisers made a mistake and assumed it's going to be held in Nieuport, Belgium. Either way, I would hazard to bet that this NATO summit will be the only one in which the language of the country that it takes place in will not be featured on its logo - how irrational is that?[/p][/quote]We live in a bilingual, not monolingual nation. English is as much the language of Wales as Welsh, practically and legally speaking.[/p][/quote]English is the language of Wales, however much the nationalist nutters try to pretend otherwise. Virtually everyone here speaks it, anyone who can't certainly doesn't speak Welsh either.[/p][/quote]I suppose since French is the only other language on the logo everyone here speaks French, too - n'est pas?;)[/p][/quote]Separate issue. French is the language of international diplomacy.[/p][/quote]You're right. Must confess, I did not know this. Apparently it turns out that French was more internationally recognised and used than English up until the time the tide turned around 1763 as France was the most prominent superpower in the world - hence the reason it is still used today in politically-charged events such as NATO summits - and the Eurovision Song Contest...[/p][/quote]what about welsh language???? scraptheWAG
  • Score: 2

6:28am Fri 27 Jun 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

artsfan wrote:
MajorCrimes wrote:
Ha South Wales Argus message saying some of my comments are upsetting people. Freedom of speech at its greatest im sure my previous message will disappear SWA u r a joke
Seriously? There is nothing offensive about your post. I said something along the same lines too. It's going to be more than a single day of protesting though, with people coming from all over the world to join in. Quite right too. We actually need more people around here to get off their butts and say no, we don't want war, no we don't want NATO, no we don't want any more drones workshops for kids in our city etc., etc., etc...
I can't see why the Argus is sending you a message telling you that your comments upset people either, MajorCrimes. In the ones that I'm reading on here you don't seem to have breached any of the terms and conditions. Although you have predicted disorder you have not advocated violent demonstrations in any way. It's not like you are encouraging any laws to be broken - and besides even if you had, didn't an Argus editorial of but a mere few days ago state itself to be of the opinion that in order to expose the truth sometimes laws have to be broken (or did I misunderstand this, and is it just journalists alone who have an inalienable right to be self-empowered to exercise such a privilege?;)
[quote][p][bold]artsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MajorCrimes[/bold] wrote: Ha South Wales Argus message saying some of my comments are upsetting people. Freedom of speech at its greatest im sure my previous message will disappear SWA u r a joke[/p][/quote]Seriously? There is nothing offensive about your post. I said something along the same lines too. It's going to be more than a single day of protesting though, with people coming from all over the world to join in. Quite right too. We actually need more people around here to get off their butts and say no, we don't want war, no we don't want NATO, no we don't want any more drones workshops for kids in our city etc., etc., etc...[/p][/quote]I can't see why the Argus is sending you a message telling you that your comments upset people either, MajorCrimes. In the ones that I'm reading on here you don't seem to have breached any of the terms and conditions. Although you have predicted disorder you have not advocated violent demonstrations in any way. It's not like you are encouraging any laws to be broken - and besides even if you had, didn't an Argus editorial of but a mere few days ago state itself to be of the opinion that in order to expose the truth sometimes laws have to be broken (or did I misunderstand this, and is it just journalists alone who have an inalienable right to be self-empowered to exercise such a privilege?;) Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: -1

7:03am Fri 27 Jun 14

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8:24am Fri 27 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

Remember:

"The Ministry of Peace concerns itself
with war, the Ministry of Truth. with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation."

Orwell - "1984"
Remember: "The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth. with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation." Orwell - "1984" KarloMarko
  • Score: -5

11:12am Fri 27 Jun 14

artsfan says...

KarloMarko wrote:
Remember:

"The Ministry of Peace concerns itself
with war, the Ministry of Truth. with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation."

Orwell - "1984"
He should have added and the Ministry of Defence with attack. Keep the comments coming KarloMarko, you brighten these boards right up, it's always a pleasure to read what you have to say!
[quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: Remember: "The Ministry of Peace concerns itself with war, the Ministry of Truth. with lies, the Ministry of Love with torture and the Ministry of Plenty with starvation." Orwell - "1984"[/p][/quote]He should have added and the Ministry of Defence with attack. Keep the comments coming KarloMarko, you brighten these boards right up, it's always a pleasure to read what you have to say! artsfan
  • Score: -4

1:24pm Fri 27 Jun 14

thomas35 says...

No problem ... it will rain!!
No problem ... it will rain!! thomas35
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2:42pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Gooda says...

Bus them to Pontypool for a bit of shopping. Free Parking here too!!
Bus them to Pontypool for a bit of shopping. Free Parking here too!! Gooda
  • Score: 2

3:25pm Fri 27 Jun 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

Foxyboy3rd wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Port0214 wrote:
The "N word" it speaks endless volumes about this city, they (the WAG Matthews and the like) are ashamed to be associated with us.

And still the Zombies vote Labour.
NATO is a organisation comprised of sovereign states, Wales not being one, rather a constitutive part of the UK. Given that, I would wager the UK Government, not Welsh Government, had the greatest say in this being a NATO member. As conspiratorial as people would often like things to be, the reality is invariably more banal than one would expect. I'm taking Hague's explanation at face value.
NATO doesn't only comprise of Sovereign States The USA. Germany, Italy, France etc. are not Sovereign States.
Monmouthshire has never been English just included in the Oxford court circuit.
If someone asked you which European country forced it's smaller neighbour to ban the teaching of it's own language in its own schools and made its Citizens change the names that "They " couldn't understand to biblical names , Surnames like, Amos, Abraham, Daniel,David, John, Moses, Jeremiah , Thomas etc.etc or Jones.
If you didn't see the names you might think that it was Stalinist Russia or Nazi Germany, outside of Britain people would never have known that England did it to the Welsh.
Of course the US, Germany, Italy and France are sovereign states! Sorry to be so explicit, but do you know what a sovereign state is?
[quote][p][bold]Foxyboy3rd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Port0214[/bold] wrote: The "N word" it speaks endless volumes about this city, they (the WAG Matthews and the like) are ashamed to be associated with us. And still the Zombies vote Labour.[/p][/quote]NATO is a organisation comprised of sovereign states, Wales not being one, rather a constitutive part of the UK. Given that, I would wager the UK Government, not Welsh Government, had the greatest say in this being a NATO member. As conspiratorial as people would often like things to be, the reality is invariably more banal than one would expect. I'm taking Hague's explanation at face value.[/p][/quote]NATO doesn't only comprise of Sovereign States The USA. Germany, Italy, France etc. are not Sovereign States. Monmouthshire has never been English just included in the Oxford court circuit. If someone asked you which European country forced it's smaller neighbour to ban the teaching of it's own language in its own schools and made its Citizens change the names that "They " couldn't understand to biblical names , Surnames like, Amos, Abraham, Daniel,David, John, Moses, Jeremiah , Thomas etc.etc or Jones. If you didn't see the names you might think that it was Stalinist Russia or Nazi Germany, outside of Britain people would never have known that England did it to the Welsh.[/p][/quote]Of course the US, Germany, Italy and France are sovereign states! Sorry to be so explicit, but do you know what a sovereign state is? The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: 0

5:26pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Charlie1501 says...

Two words....."Grow Up".......who really cares if Newport is'nt in the logo for the Nato Summit. If thats all you have to be concerned about then you lead a very shallow life. How about you get off your backsides and start working towards making Newport what you all think it should be?...Clean your doorstep area/street area, pick the rubbish up from outside your door. Pride starts at home.....not in the logo of a Nato Summit.
Two words....."Grow Up".......who really cares if Newport is'nt in the logo for the Nato Summit. If thats all you have to be concerned about then you lead a very shallow life. How about you get off your backsides and start working towards making Newport what you all think it should be?...Clean your doorstep area/street area, pick the rubbish up from outside your door. Pride starts at home.....not in the logo of a Nato Summit. Charlie1501
  • Score: 1

6:32pm Fri 27 Jun 14

Mervyn James says...

Charlie1501 wrote:
Two words....."Grow Up".......who really cares if Newport is'nt in the logo for the Nato Summit. If thats all you have to be concerned about then you lead a very shallow life. How about you get off your backsides and start working towards making Newport what you all think it should be?...Clean your doorstep area/street area, pick the rubbish up from outside your door. Pride starts at home.....not in the logo of a Nato Summit.
I do this now, and have to watch the mums parking their cars outside my door to go to a school then empty all the junk food their offspring are grazing on from 7am until 4pm, then dump food and rubbish over my wall or all over the pavement and drive off.... Pigs in BMW's....
[quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: Two words....."Grow Up".......who really cares if Newport is'nt in the logo for the Nato Summit. If thats all you have to be concerned about then you lead a very shallow life. How about you get off your backsides and start working towards making Newport what you all think it should be?...Clean your doorstep area/street area, pick the rubbish up from outside your door. Pride starts at home.....not in the logo of a Nato Summit.[/p][/quote]I do this now, and have to watch the mums parking their cars outside my door to go to a school then empty all the junk food their offspring are grazing on from 7am until 4pm, then dump food and rubbish over my wall or all over the pavement and drive off.... Pigs in BMW's.... Mervyn James
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8:20pm Sun 29 Jun 14

ex-St. Julians boy says...

Dano1967 wrote:
You ask an American where Wales is and they will tell you it's a small town in England, near London.
This Wales summit thing is not going to help that misconception.
Actually, some Americans think that Wales is a small fishing village on the west coast of England. The rest of them have never heard of it.
[quote][p][bold]Dano1967[/bold] wrote: You ask an American where Wales is and they will tell you it's a small town in England, near London. This Wales summit thing is not going to help that misconception.[/p][/quote]Actually, some Americans think that Wales is a small fishing village on the west coast of England. The rest of them have never heard of it. ex-St. Julians boy
  • Score: 3

5:59pm Tue 1 Jul 14

DraigDun says...

The only anger I hear is that from the Argus itself -- hardly representative of the vast majority of Newport residents, who couldn't care less about this.

At least a unique name like Wales won't be confused with any other places of the same name. If Newport wants to stand out, then strive to become the most important city within that 'Wales' place.

Why is the Argus protesting about this when it's been long decided? Argus has never tried to promote Newport as a NATO summit host city before now, not even in January when the NATO website published the following headline:
'Busy agenda for NATO in 2014, as the Alliance prepares for Wales Summit'
The only anger I hear is that from the Argus itself -- hardly representative of the vast majority of Newport residents, who couldn't care less about this. At least a unique name like Wales won't be confused with any other places of the same name. If Newport wants to stand out, then strive to become the most important city within that 'Wales' place. Why is the Argus protesting about this when it's been long decided? Argus has never tried to promote Newport as a NATO summit host city before now, not even in January when the NATO website published the following headline: 'Busy agenda for NATO in 2014, as the Alliance prepares for Wales Summit' DraigDun
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12:12pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Paxman's Army says...

ex-St. Julians boy wrote:
Dano1967 wrote:
You ask an American where Wales is and they will tell you it's a small town in England, near London.
This Wales summit thing is not going to help that misconception.
Actually, some Americans think that Wales is a small fishing village on the west coast of England. The rest of them have never heard of it.
As an American living in Wales, I'd like to put to rest the rumour that we don't know where Wales is. We do. It's somewhere in the UK.

I can remember thinking the first time I came here thinking, "oh aren't all those baby sheep so adorable!" and "so how do these castles still stand if they're so old?" and "what does Casnewydd mean in Welsh? Landfill site?"

If you ask me (and you haven't), Newport City Council could have really plugged the NATO event, by coordinating cultural and music activities at the same time, showcasing the city as an events place with history and life, encouraging further highclass get togethers. But instead they sit on their tushies and let the dump grow. It seems, and I hate to say this, if Newport people want to change the city, they might have to do it themselves. Demand clean up in the town centre, initiate events, volunteer and for goodness sakes, get loud about it. Organise against the idiots who tear down murals and children's play sites. Fight for change. Making comments on here is not enough.
[quote][p][bold]ex-St. Julians boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dano1967[/bold] wrote: You ask an American where Wales is and they will tell you it's a small town in England, near London. This Wales summit thing is not going to help that misconception.[/p][/quote]Actually, some Americans think that Wales is a small fishing village on the west coast of England. The rest of them have never heard of it.[/p][/quote]As an American living in Wales, I'd like to put to rest the rumour that we don't know where Wales is. We do. It's somewhere in the UK. I can remember thinking the first time I came here thinking, "oh aren't all those baby sheep so adorable!" and "so how do these castles still stand if they're so old?" and "what does Casnewydd mean in Welsh? Landfill site?" If you ask me (and you haven't), Newport City Council could have really plugged the NATO event, by coordinating cultural and music activities at the same time, showcasing the city as an events place with history and life, encouraging further highclass get togethers. But instead they sit on their tushies and let the dump grow. It seems, and I hate to say this, if Newport people want to change the city, they might have to do it themselves. Demand clean up in the town centre, initiate events, volunteer and for goodness sakes, get loud about it. Organise against the idiots who tear down murals and children's play sites. Fight for change. Making comments on here is not enough. Paxman's Army
  • Score: 0

9:44am Thu 3 Jul 14

Mervyn James says...

Paxman's Army wrote:
ex-St. Julians boy wrote:
Dano1967 wrote:
You ask an American where Wales is and they will tell you it's a small town in England, near London.
This Wales summit thing is not going to help that misconception.
Actually, some Americans think that Wales is a small fishing village on the west coast of England. The rest of them have never heard of it.
As an American living in Wales, I'd like to put to rest the rumour that we don't know where Wales is. We do. It's somewhere in the UK.

I can remember thinking the first time I came here thinking, "oh aren't all those baby sheep so adorable!" and "so how do these castles still stand if they're so old?" and "what does Casnewydd mean in Welsh? Landfill site?"

If you ask me (and you haven't), Newport City Council could have really plugged the NATO event, by coordinating cultural and music activities at the same time, showcasing the city as an events place with history and life, encouraging further highclass get togethers. But instead they sit on their tushies and let the dump grow. It seems, and I hate to say this, if Newport people want to change the city, they might have to do it themselves. Demand clean up in the town centre, initiate events, volunteer and for goodness sakes, get loud about it. Organise against the idiots who tear down murals and children's play sites. Fight for change. Making comments on here is not enough.
It's a wind up. Lol the American google translate translates Casnewydd as CaseNewport. Newydd is 'New' from the little I know, Cas seems to have defied even the welsh online dictionary that simply reverts to the translation as 'Newport'. Since we also have 'Casgwent' where is that port ?

Lol An american to tell us what to do, are you obama in disguise ? look if you want to be constructive send a drone here.
[quote][p][bold]Paxman's Army[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ex-St. Julians boy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dano1967[/bold] wrote: You ask an American where Wales is and they will tell you it's a small town in England, near London. This Wales summit thing is not going to help that misconception.[/p][/quote]Actually, some Americans think that Wales is a small fishing village on the west coast of England. The rest of them have never heard of it.[/p][/quote]As an American living in Wales, I'd like to put to rest the rumour that we don't know where Wales is. We do. It's somewhere in the UK. I can remember thinking the first time I came here thinking, "oh aren't all those baby sheep so adorable!" and "so how do these castles still stand if they're so old?" and "what does Casnewydd mean in Welsh? Landfill site?" If you ask me (and you haven't), Newport City Council could have really plugged the NATO event, by coordinating cultural and music activities at the same time, showcasing the city as an events place with history and life, encouraging further highclass get togethers. But instead they sit on their tushies and let the dump grow. It seems, and I hate to say this, if Newport people want to change the city, they might have to do it themselves. Demand clean up in the town centre, initiate events, volunteer and for goodness sakes, get loud about it. Organise against the idiots who tear down murals and children's play sites. Fight for change. Making comments on here is not enough.[/p][/quote]It's a wind up. Lol the American google translate translates Casnewydd as CaseNewport. Newydd is 'New' from the little I know, Cas seems to have defied even the welsh online dictionary that simply reverts to the translation as 'Newport'. Since we also have 'Casgwent' where is that port ? Lol An american to tell us what to do, are you obama in disguise ? look if you want to be constructive send a drone here. Mervyn James
  • Score: 0

1:03pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Paxman's Army says...

Hi Merv. Nice to meet you too.

Yes, I can actually share my opinions. Know why? Because I'm a citizen of the UK and I pay my taxes - just like you. I'm part of that immigration wave people keep complaining about.
Hi Merv. Nice to meet you too. Yes, I can actually share my opinions. Know why? Because I'm a citizen of the UK and I pay my taxes - just like you. I'm part of that immigration wave people keep complaining about. Paxman's Army
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