CCTV appeal after cashpoint theft

CCTV appeal after cashpoint theft

CCTV appeal after cashpoint theft

First published in Gwent news

MONEY has been stolen from a Halifax cashpoint machine in Cwmbran.

A person made a withdrawal at about 10am on Tuesday, June 24th but left without taking the money from the ATM on the Mall.

But when they returned the money had gone.

Officers are trying to trace the man pictured who was in the area at the time and may be able to help them with their enquiries.

Anyone with any information is asked to call Gwent Police on 101 quoting log number 126 24/06/14 or Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111

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8:11am Wed 2 Jul 14

manager111 says...

Well surely the idiot that didn't take their own cash, should be the one to be ridiculed in the paper, it wasn't such as stolen, by robbery or theft, it was lost by the idiot, same as dropping money on the floor, and someone picking it up.. And the police, have spent time on this, words fail me. Idiots.
Well surely the idiot that didn't take their own cash, should be the one to be ridiculed in the paper, it wasn't such as stolen, by robbery or theft, it was lost by the idiot, same as dropping money on the floor, and someone picking it up.. And the police, have spent time on this, words fail me. Idiots. manager111
  • Score: 8

9:25am Wed 2 Jul 14

WELSH BUDDAH says...

manager111 wrote:
Well surely the idiot that didn't take their own cash, should be the one to be ridiculed in the paper, it wasn't such as stolen, by robbery or theft, it was lost by the idiot, same as dropping money on the floor, and someone picking it up.. And the police, have spent time on this, words fail me. Idiots.
I would say this is not a crime, but lost money and a person who might be a genuine person and down on their luck saw an opportunity. Why would you leave your money in a ATM machine these days? accident so we should say the guy who came across it made a mistake by taking it, but it don't make him a criminal. And also we have to look at the other side and maybe the person who left it had a medical problem, so the person who found it should've taken it to the Halifax and handed it in. With money being tight and in demand today I would think a lot of people would of kept it.
[quote][p][bold]manager111[/bold] wrote: Well surely the idiot that didn't take their own cash, should be the one to be ridiculed in the paper, it wasn't such as stolen, by robbery or theft, it was lost by the idiot, same as dropping money on the floor, and someone picking it up.. And the police, have spent time on this, words fail me. Idiots.[/p][/quote]I would say this is not a crime, but lost money and a person who might be a genuine person and down on their luck saw an opportunity. Why would you leave your money in a ATM machine these days? accident so we should say the guy who came across it made a mistake by taking it, but it don't make him a criminal. And also we have to look at the other side and maybe the person who left it had a medical problem, so the person who found it should've taken it to the Halifax and handed it in. With money being tight and in demand today I would think a lot of people would of kept it. WELSH BUDDAH
  • Score: -6

9:25am Wed 2 Jul 14

WELSH BUDDAH says...

manager111 wrote:
Well surely the idiot that didn't take their own cash, should be the one to be ridiculed in the paper, it wasn't such as stolen, by robbery or theft, it was lost by the idiot, same as dropping money on the floor, and someone picking it up.. And the police, have spent time on this, words fail me. Idiots.
I would say this is not a crime, but lost money and a person who might be a genuine person and down on their luck saw an opportunity. Why would you leave your money in a ATM machine these days? accident so we should say the guy who came across it made a mistake by taking it, but it don't make him a criminal. And also we have to look at the other side and maybe the person who left it had a medical problem, so the person who found it should've taken it to the Halifax and handed it in. With money being tight and in demand today I would think a lot of people would of kept it.
[quote][p][bold]manager111[/bold] wrote: Well surely the idiot that didn't take their own cash, should be the one to be ridiculed in the paper, it wasn't such as stolen, by robbery or theft, it was lost by the idiot, same as dropping money on the floor, and someone picking it up.. And the police, have spent time on this, words fail me. Idiots.[/p][/quote]I would say this is not a crime, but lost money and a person who might be a genuine person and down on their luck saw an opportunity. Why would you leave your money in a ATM machine these days? accident so we should say the guy who came across it made a mistake by taking it, but it don't make him a criminal. And also we have to look at the other side and maybe the person who left it had a medical problem, so the person who found it should've taken it to the Halifax and handed it in. With money being tight and in demand today I would think a lot of people would of kept it. WELSH BUDDAH
  • Score: -14

10:26am Wed 2 Jul 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

Actually, I'm pretty sure that theft by finding 'is' a crime...
Actually, I'm pretty sure that theft by finding 'is' a crime... GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: 17

11:41am Wed 2 Jul 14

WELSH BUDDAH says...

GardenVarietyMushroo
m
wrote:
Actually, I'm pretty sure that theft by finding 'is' a crime...
Yes your correct it is a crime, but what I am saying is the man might of been down on his luck not a criminal. And people are warned all the time about crimes involving banks and money so people who allow this by accident or not should take some of the blame. There is no right and wrong I would say this crime was unfortunate and has grey areas its not straight forward. I am not saying the man was right for taking the cash what I am saying in the spur of the moment his brain went into overdrive and he could of been regretting his actions, the same as the person who left their money at the ATM.
[quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: Actually, I'm pretty sure that theft by finding 'is' a crime...[/p][/quote]Yes your correct it is a crime, but what I am saying is the man might of been down on his luck not a criminal. And people are warned all the time about crimes involving banks and money so people who allow this by accident or not should take some of the blame. There is no right and wrong I would say this crime was unfortunate and has grey areas its not straight forward. I am not saying the man was right for taking the cash what I am saying in the spur of the moment his brain went into overdrive and he could of been regretting his actions, the same as the person who left their money at the ATM. WELSH BUDDAH
  • Score: -17

11:49am Wed 2 Jul 14

displayed says...

The bottom line is;
One mans got the money the other has'nt..........
Simples.

Perhaps he should stop using his card!
The bottom line is; One mans got the money the other has'nt.......... Simples. Perhaps he should stop using his card! displayed
  • Score: -5

11:56am Wed 2 Jul 14

Thomas O'Malley says...

If you find cash in the street its unlikely you could get it back to the owner. However, if its in a purse or wallet we all know the right thing to do is try to return it. You'll feel better for it than having a few more pounds to spend. The owner may have a medical problem, elderly (or not) and just not concentrating. We all make mistakes. That money may be very important to them to pay the rent, fuel bill or buy food. As for 'should be ridiculed in the paper' for losing money - really ?

In this case I can understand whoever took it probably thought on the spur of the moment the ATM was dishing out free money - we'd all be tempted if we thought the only loser was a big business. However, whoever lost the money probably returned to the Halifax when they realised their mistake so it should have been handed in and returned to the owner.
If you find cash in the street its unlikely you could get it back to the owner. However, if its in a purse or wallet we all know the right thing to do is try to return it. You'll feel better for it than having a few more pounds to spend. The owner may have a medical problem, elderly (or not) and just not concentrating. We all make mistakes. That money may be very important to them to pay the rent, fuel bill or buy food. As for 'should be ridiculed in the paper' for losing money - really ? In this case I can understand whoever took it probably thought on the spur of the moment the ATM was dishing out free money - we'd all be tempted if we thought the only loser was a big business. However, whoever lost the money probably returned to the Halifax when they realised their mistake so it should have been handed in and returned to the owner. Thomas O'Malley
  • Score: 20

2:24pm Wed 2 Jul 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

WELSH BUDDAH wrote:
GardenVarietyMushroo

m
wrote:
Actually, I'm pretty sure that theft by finding 'is' a crime...
Yes your correct it is a crime, but what I am saying is the man might of been down on his luck not a criminal. And people are warned all the time about crimes involving banks and money so people who allow this by accident or not should take some of the blame. There is no right and wrong I would say this crime was unfortunate and has grey areas its not straight forward. I am not saying the man was right for taking the cash what I am saying in the spur of the moment his brain went into overdrive and he could of been regretting his actions, the same as the person who left their money at the ATM.
I may be mistaken, as I've never actually tried it out myself but I thought that most cash machines (ATM is such a horrible Americanism) withdraw the money back into the machine after a fairly short period if it remains untaken.

If that's the case, the individual in question - whoever it was - is quite likely to have seen the careless victim walk away from the money before snatching it.
[quote][p][bold]WELSH BUDDAH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: Actually, I'm pretty sure that theft by finding 'is' a crime...[/p][/quote]Yes your correct it is a crime, but what I am saying is the man might of been down on his luck not a criminal. And people are warned all the time about crimes involving banks and money so people who allow this by accident or not should take some of the blame. There is no right and wrong I would say this crime was unfortunate and has grey areas its not straight forward. I am not saying the man was right for taking the cash what I am saying in the spur of the moment his brain went into overdrive and he could of been regretting his actions, the same as the person who left their money at the ATM.[/p][/quote]I may be mistaken, as I've never actually tried it out myself but I thought that most cash machines (ATM is such a horrible Americanism) withdraw the money back into the machine after a fairly short period if it remains untaken. If that's the case, the individual in question - whoever it was - is quite likely to have seen the careless victim walk away from the money before snatching it. GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: 5

4:49pm Wed 2 Jul 14

davidcp says...

I can't believe there are people on here justifying theft!
I thought only lawyers did that!!
Still, we live in one of the 'civilised' countries where drug taking ( a CRIME) is used as mitigation for thefts, robberies and burglaries (other CRIMES).
"I had to commit that crime because I was committing another one later."
You couldn't make it up.
I can't believe there are people on here justifying theft! I thought only lawyers did that!! Still, we live in one of the 'civilised' countries where drug taking ( a CRIME) is used as mitigation for thefts, robberies and burglaries (other CRIMES). "I had to commit that crime because I was committing another one later." You couldn't make it up. davidcp
  • Score: 8

6:02pm Wed 2 Jul 14

PontyBloke says...

The cashpoint does withdraw the money if it's not taken. A few months ago I walked past a cashpoint and there was a small amount of money (£5) that had not been taken. I stood there looking down the street because I could see a policeman walking along, just as I alerted him the machine swallowed it.

My thoughts were that someone who only withdrew £5 from a cashpoint at a time probably didn't have much money, and would suffer losing what seems to many of us an insignificant amount.
The cashpoint does withdraw the money if it's not taken. A few months ago I walked past a cashpoint and there was a small amount of money (£5) that had not been taken. I stood there looking down the street because I could see a policeman walking along, just as I alerted him the machine swallowed it. My thoughts were that someone who only withdrew £5 from a cashpoint at a time probably didn't have much money, and would suffer losing what seems to many of us an insignificant amount. PontyBloke
  • Score: 5

6:25pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Newport87 says...

GardenVarietyMushroo
m
wrote:
WELSH BUDDAH wrote:
GardenVarietyMushroo


m
wrote:
Actually, I'm pretty sure that theft by finding 'is' a crime...
Yes your correct it is a crime, but what I am saying is the man might of been down on his luck not a criminal. And people are warned all the time about crimes involving banks and money so people who allow this by accident or not should take some of the blame. There is no right and wrong I would say this crime was unfortunate and has grey areas its not straight forward. I am not saying the man was right for taking the cash what I am saying in the spur of the moment his brain went into overdrive and he could of been regretting his actions, the same as the person who left their money at the ATM.
I may be mistaken, as I've never actually tried it out myself but I thought that most cash machines (ATM is such a horrible Americanism) withdraw the money back into the machine after a fairly short period if it remains untaken.

If that's the case, the individual in question - whoever it was - is quite likely to have seen the careless victim walk away from the money before snatching it.
I have been to a cashpoint and it was beeping with £20 sat there. While walking to the machine I did not see anyone around, so the time before it takes it back cannot be too short.

I'm baffled that this is classed as theft. Morally it is wrong if you see the person who it belongs to, but some times you won't and some cash machines are not just for one bank.
[quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WELSH BUDDAH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: Actually, I'm pretty sure that theft by finding 'is' a crime...[/p][/quote]Yes your correct it is a crime, but what I am saying is the man might of been down on his luck not a criminal. And people are warned all the time about crimes involving banks and money so people who allow this by accident or not should take some of the blame. There is no right and wrong I would say this crime was unfortunate and has grey areas its not straight forward. I am not saying the man was right for taking the cash what I am saying in the spur of the moment his brain went into overdrive and he could of been regretting his actions, the same as the person who left their money at the ATM.[/p][/quote]I may be mistaken, as I've never actually tried it out myself but I thought that most cash machines (ATM is such a horrible Americanism) withdraw the money back into the machine after a fairly short period if it remains untaken. If that's the case, the individual in question - whoever it was - is quite likely to have seen the careless victim walk away from the money before snatching it.[/p][/quote]I have been to a cashpoint and it was beeping with £20 sat there. While walking to the machine I did not see anyone around, so the time before it takes it back cannot be too short. I'm baffled that this is classed as theft. Morally it is wrong if you see the person who it belongs to, but some times you won't and some cash machines are not just for one bank. Newport87
  • Score: -7

7:41pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Limestonecowboy says...

Newport87 wrote:
GardenVarietyMushroo m wrote:
WELSH BUDDAH wrote:
GardenVarietyMushroo m wrote: Actually, I'm pretty sure that theft by finding 'is' a crime...
Yes your correct it is a crime, but what I am saying is the man might of been down on his luck not a criminal. And people are warned all the time about crimes involving banks and money so people who allow this by accident or not should take some of the blame. There is no right and wrong I would say this crime was unfortunate and has grey areas its not straight forward. I am not saying the man was right for taking the cash what I am saying in the spur of the moment his brain went into overdrive and he could of been regretting his actions, the same as the person who left their money at the ATM.
I may be mistaken, as I've never actually tried it out myself but I thought that most cash machines (ATM is such a horrible Americanism) withdraw the money back into the machine after a fairly short period if it remains untaken. If that's the case, the individual in question - whoever it was - is quite likely to have seen the careless victim walk away from the money before snatching it.
I have been to a cashpoint and it was beeping with £20 sat there. While walking to the machine I did not see anyone around, so the time before it takes it back cannot be too short. I'm baffled that this is classed as theft. Morally it is wrong if you see the person who it belongs to, but some times you won't and some cash machines are not just for one bank.
Of course its theft ... so if you walked passed a car with keys left in the ignition you would jump in & take the car?
[quote][p][bold]Newport87[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WELSH BUDDAH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: Actually, I'm pretty sure that theft by finding 'is' a crime...[/p][/quote]Yes your correct it is a crime, but what I am saying is the man might of been down on his luck not a criminal. And people are warned all the time about crimes involving banks and money so people who allow this by accident or not should take some of the blame. There is no right and wrong I would say this crime was unfortunate and has grey areas its not straight forward. I am not saying the man was right for taking the cash what I am saying in the spur of the moment his brain went into overdrive and he could of been regretting his actions, the same as the person who left their money at the ATM.[/p][/quote]I may be mistaken, as I've never actually tried it out myself but I thought that most cash machines (ATM is such a horrible Americanism) withdraw the money back into the machine after a fairly short period if it remains untaken. If that's the case, the individual in question - whoever it was - is quite likely to have seen the careless victim walk away from the money before snatching it.[/p][/quote]I have been to a cashpoint and it was beeping with £20 sat there. While walking to the machine I did not see anyone around, so the time before it takes it back cannot be too short. I'm baffled that this is classed as theft. Morally it is wrong if you see the person who it belongs to, but some times you won't and some cash machines are not just for one bank.[/p][/quote]Of course its theft ... so if you walked passed a car with keys left in the ignition you would jump in & take the car? Limestonecowboy
  • Score: 8

8:07pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Newport87 says...

Limestonecowboy wrote:
Newport87 wrote:
GardenVarietyMushroo m wrote:
WELSH BUDDAH wrote:
GardenVarietyMushroo m wrote: Actually, I'm pretty sure that theft by finding 'is' a crime...
Yes your correct it is a crime, but what I am saying is the man might of been down on his luck not a criminal. And people are warned all the time about crimes involving banks and money so people who allow this by accident or not should take some of the blame. There is no right and wrong I would say this crime was unfortunate and has grey areas its not straight forward. I am not saying the man was right for taking the cash what I am saying in the spur of the moment his brain went into overdrive and he could of been regretting his actions, the same as the person who left their money at the ATM.
I may be mistaken, as I've never actually tried it out myself but I thought that most cash machines (ATM is such a horrible Americanism) withdraw the money back into the machine after a fairly short period if it remains untaken. If that's the case, the individual in question - whoever it was - is quite likely to have seen the careless victim walk away from the money before snatching it.
I have been to a cashpoint and it was beeping with £20 sat there. While walking to the machine I did not see anyone around, so the time before it takes it back cannot be too short. I'm baffled that this is classed as theft. Morally it is wrong if you see the person who it belongs to, but some times you won't and some cash machines are not just for one bank.
Of course its theft ... so if you walked passed a car with keys left in the ignition you would jump in & take the car?
No, I would knock house doors or hand them in to the police.

But you can't always do this with £10 in a cash machine.
[quote][p][bold]Limestonecowboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newport87[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]WELSH BUDDAH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: Actually, I'm pretty sure that theft by finding 'is' a crime...[/p][/quote]Yes your correct it is a crime, but what I am saying is the man might of been down on his luck not a criminal. And people are warned all the time about crimes involving banks and money so people who allow this by accident or not should take some of the blame. There is no right and wrong I would say this crime was unfortunate and has grey areas its not straight forward. I am not saying the man was right for taking the cash what I am saying in the spur of the moment his brain went into overdrive and he could of been regretting his actions, the same as the person who left their money at the ATM.[/p][/quote]I may be mistaken, as I've never actually tried it out myself but I thought that most cash machines (ATM is such a horrible Americanism) withdraw the money back into the machine after a fairly short period if it remains untaken. If that's the case, the individual in question - whoever it was - is quite likely to have seen the careless victim walk away from the money before snatching it.[/p][/quote]I have been to a cashpoint and it was beeping with £20 sat there. While walking to the machine I did not see anyone around, so the time before it takes it back cannot be too short. I'm baffled that this is classed as theft. Morally it is wrong if you see the person who it belongs to, but some times you won't and some cash machines are not just for one bank.[/p][/quote]Of course its theft ... so if you walked passed a car with keys left in the ignition you would jump in & take the car?[/p][/quote]No, I would knock house doors or hand them in to the police. But you can't always do this with £10 in a cash machine. Newport87
  • Score: -6

9:02pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Floppy backed says...

manager111 wrote:
Well surely the idiot that didn't take their own cash, should be the one to be ridiculed in the paper, it wasn't such as stolen, by robbery or theft, it was lost by the idiot, same as dropping money on the floor, and someone picking it up.. And the police, have spent time on this, words fail me. Idiots.
Gosh you are perfect arent you? A few years ago this happened to me in Sainsburys - I had a newborn with me, I was tired and a bit flakey. So thats me being an idoit then??? Who is to say this wasnt an elderly person like a relative of yours who relied on this cash???? You want to calm your opinions down to be a bit more sympathetic matie.

What your saying then that if you withdrew £100 from the counter service and left it on the side while you turned your back you would accept that someone would help themselves - its ok? - same principle!

I am sure this isnt £5 or £10 more likely £100 or even £200 so to most of us this is a considerable amount of money to lose.

Theft is theft and more than likely you are going to be found out and lets hope they get named and shamed.

Shame on you calling them an idiot!
[quote][p][bold]manager111[/bold] wrote: Well surely the idiot that didn't take their own cash, should be the one to be ridiculed in the paper, it wasn't such as stolen, by robbery or theft, it was lost by the idiot, same as dropping money on the floor, and someone picking it up.. And the police, have spent time on this, words fail me. Idiots.[/p][/quote]Gosh you are perfect arent you? A few years ago this happened to me in Sainsburys - I had a newborn with me, I was tired and a bit flakey. So thats me being an idoit then??? Who is to say this wasnt an elderly person like a relative of yours who relied on this cash???? You want to calm your opinions down to be a bit more sympathetic matie. What your saying then that if you withdrew £100 from the counter service and left it on the side while you turned your back you would accept that someone would help themselves - its ok? - same principle! I am sure this isnt £5 or £10 more likely £100 or even £200 so to most of us this is a considerable amount of money to lose. Theft is theft and more than likely you are going to be found out and lets hope they get named and shamed. Shame on you calling them an idiot! Floppy backed
  • Score: 6

9:07pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Floppy backed says...

davidcp wrote:
I can't believe there are people on here justifying theft!
I thought only lawyers did that!!
Still, we live in one of the 'civilised' countries where drug taking ( a CRIME) is used as mitigation for thefts, robberies and burglaries (other CRIMES).
"I had to commit that crime because I was committing another one later."
You couldn't make it up.
Exactly - are are these the same people banging on about MPs expenses and wasted tax payers money also the amount of crime we have to ensure everyday - its called double standards and plenty of that in this country!

This money could easily be traced back to the person who withdrew it.
[quote][p][bold]davidcp[/bold] wrote: I can't believe there are people on here justifying theft! I thought only lawyers did that!! Still, we live in one of the 'civilised' countries where drug taking ( a CRIME) is used as mitigation for thefts, robberies and burglaries (other CRIMES). "I had to commit that crime because I was committing another one later." You couldn't make it up.[/p][/quote]Exactly - are are these the same people banging on about MPs expenses and wasted tax payers money also the amount of crime we have to ensure everyday - its called double standards and plenty of that in this country! This money could easily be traced back to the person who withdrew it. Floppy backed
  • Score: 5

11:22pm Wed 2 Jul 14

old soak says...

Of course it's theft,how else would you descibe taking money that doesn't belong to you?
Of course it's theft,how else would you descibe taking money that doesn't belong to you? old soak
  • Score: 4

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