Newport council must find £13million in cuts

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THE true picture of the cuts Newport council has to make next year has been revealed this morning, with council officers facing an extra £8 million to find and possibly whole services cut, the deputy leader has warned.

In June the Argus reported how Welsh Government told councils across the country that they could face funding cuts as deep as 4.5 per cent in 2015/16, more than twice the previous estimate.

Despite this, deputy leader of Newport council, Cllr Ray Truman this morning insisted that the council was "not expecting" to find that it must save almost £13 million next year, on top of £4.9million-worth of cuts already identified.

"The council was in a good position to be able to deliver those (savings) thanks to its medium term financial planning," said a statement released by the council, which describes a "bleak financial future" and "worsening financial forecast".

"However, new information from the Welsh Government has indicated that the grant they will give the council will reduce by up to 4.5 per cent in cash terms instead of the 1.5 per cent originally anticipated.

"This means the council will have to redraw its medium term financial plan to deliver a further £8 million of savings on top of the £4.9 million - a total of £12.9 million to be found for the next financial year."

Earlier this month Newport council leader Bob Bright told a cabinet meeting that the proposed 4.5 per cent reduction was a “disastrous forecast”, and that financial plans had been “thrown to the wind” by the changing position.

“We were told we were having a reduction of 1.5 per cent but it could be twice that,” he said. “Even a layperson could realise that is a difficult situation to manage.”

This year, the council has cut its budget by £8 million on top of £50 million cut in the previous few years, with the Welsh Government grant accounting for more than 80 per cent of the council’s net funding. Council tax makes up 19 per cent.

Deputy leader of Newport council, Cllr Ray Truman said today that for local government the financial situation is showing no sign of getting any easier, and "in fact the position is worsening".

“Newport council will have to make some extremely difficult decisions over the next few months about which services it will continue to deliver," he warned.

"We are placed in this position because of continuing UK government austerity measures and the knock-on effect for Welsh Government which provides the largest share of local government funding.”

He described savings already made by the council as "significant", which in some instances has involved stopping services the authority "can no longer afford", said Cllr Truman.

"More difficult and significant decisions will be required now," he said.

“It is a harsh financial reality we are facing and one the council and our residents were not expecting but one we have to prepare for."

Preliminary work to identify potential savings has already begun, said the council's statement.

It said: "Over the coming weeks and months, the council will also be explaining the position to residents and staff in more detail as well as seeking their ideas on how the council can meet these considerable challenges."

The Argus reported in September how the council may have to save £34 million in total by 2017.

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11:46am Wed 30 Jul 14

b3talover says...

Council tax will spiral out of control to plug the gap. A rise of 3% across the board needed. Monthly refuse collections on the way. I would urge the public to monitor councillor finances where possible. If they are going to hit us members of the public with the bill they have to be whiter than white. The public will be watching intensely from now on. Be careful how you spend our taxes. Any perceived wastage will be pounced on and challenged.
Council tax will spiral out of control to plug the gap. A rise of 3% across the board needed. Monthly refuse collections on the way. I would urge the public to monitor councillor finances where possible. If they are going to hit us members of the public with the bill they have to be whiter than white. The public will be watching intensely from now on. Be careful how you spend our taxes. Any perceived wastage will be pounced on and challenged. b3talover
  • Score: 59

12:21pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Severn40 says...

Could there be some focus on the spending priorities of the Welsh Government? Yes, they have had a cut in the block grant from Westminster but Welsh ministers are showing themselves not capable of taking difficult decisions themselves and passing the buck to others wherever possibe. For example, local councils, bus companies etc. They have symphoned off extra monies from Westminster (for council tax freezes) for their vanity projects and the need to publish constant press releases as if everyday was Christmas.
Could there be some focus on the spending priorities of the Welsh Government? Yes, they have had a cut in the block grant from Westminster but Welsh ministers are showing themselves not capable of taking difficult decisions themselves and passing the buck to others wherever possibe. For example, local councils, bus companies etc. They have symphoned off extra monies from Westminster (for council tax freezes) for their vanity projects and the need to publish constant press releases as if everyday was Christmas. Severn40
  • Score: 41

12:24pm Wed 30 Jul 14

throwy1 says...

How much does the Local; Authority pay out in compensation each year as some of the public jump on the compensation gravy train?
How much does the Local; Authority pay out in compensation each year as some of the public jump on the compensation gravy train? throwy1
  • Score: 10

12:42pm Wed 30 Jul 14

newportonian69 says...

No food expenses or travel expenses I have to find my own way to work and find my own food, maybe lose a few councillors. I dont live in hotels while I work, travel back and for should all top people.
No food expenses or travel expenses I have to find my own way to work and find my own food, maybe lose a few councillors. I dont live in hotels while I work, travel back and for should all top people. newportonian69
  • Score: 64

12:47pm Wed 30 Jul 14

BassalegCountyFan says...

And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'...

While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.
And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'... While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this. BassalegCountyFan
  • Score: 26

1:13pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Llanmartinangel says...

BassalegCountyFan wrote:
And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'...

While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.
Really? Didn't WAG recruit another 400 pen pushers recently? To do what? Help them wreck health and education here even more? They bought a loss making airport and then picked up the tab to keep it afloat. They announced another £1.6m for Welsh language projects only last week. It makes me laugh that Labour make a science of squandering other people's money then complain that there isn't enough.
[quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'... While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.[/p][/quote]Really? Didn't WAG recruit another 400 pen pushers recently? To do what? Help them wreck health and education here even more? They bought a loss making airport and then picked up the tab to keep it afloat. They announced another £1.6m for Welsh language projects only last week. It makes me laugh that Labour make a science of squandering other people's money then complain that there isn't enough. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 2

1:22pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Pride-in-the-Port!! says...

Get rid of Newport City Council & all the other Councils in the former County of Gwent, bring in one authority to cover Gwent and call it Gwent County Council. That would save millions by having less below par councillors, less chief exec salaries and less expenses! The savings can be put into providing services that are currently being cut. That's why WG want to have 12 authorities across Wales and the economies of scale savings would be welcomed by most tax payers.
How much did NCC waste on replacing perfectly good wheely bins - answer hundreds of thousands of pounds - who authorised this expenditure with all these cuts due to be made!? When UK / WG do give cash to the authorities it's just wasted on replacing perfectly good bins. In Wales there are too many authorities without a clue, I'm ashamed to say NCC is one of them and as a taxpayer I'm tired of them wasting my money.
Get rid of Newport City Council & all the other Councils in the former County of Gwent, bring in one authority to cover Gwent and call it Gwent County Council. That would save millions by having less below par councillors, less chief exec salaries and less expenses! The savings can be put into providing services that are currently being cut. That's why WG want to have 12 authorities across Wales and the economies of scale savings would be welcomed by most tax payers. How much did NCC waste on replacing perfectly good wheely bins - answer hundreds of thousands of pounds - who authorised this expenditure with all these cuts due to be made!? When UK / WG do give cash to the authorities it's just wasted on replacing perfectly good bins. In Wales there are too many authorities without a clue, I'm ashamed to say NCC is one of them and as a taxpayer I'm tired of them wasting my money. Pride-in-the-Port!!
  • Score: 43

1:27pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Votefornoneoftheabove says...

BassalegCountyFan wrote:
And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'...

While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.
Now I am no Tory voter, but to indicate that it's the Coalition's fault is a bit rich ?

The Conservatives handed over a budget surplus to Messrs Blair and Brown back in 1997, then the two of them go on a massive spending spree and even sell off our gold reserves for a knockdown price and have a great time spending all the UK taxpayers money.

The Coalition comes back into power in 2010, after 13 years of Labour spending and nothing is left, what were they supposed to do, keep on borrowing?

My parents taught my an easy value as a child, "if you can't pay the money back don't borrow it!"

I am not happy with all the cuts that are taking place, not just in Wales but the UK as a whole, what I realise is that the mess we are in was caused a long time ago by the previous Government, have you already forgotten what Former Labour Treasury chief secretary Liam Byrne said to David Laws in 2010 when he handed over the keys to the UK Treasury.

'I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left."

Let's move forward to today, something had to be done, some say that the Government has cut too much too soon, some say not. I don't no the answer to this question.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of this debate, there is a simple hard cold fact to all of it, We have to pay back what we borrowed, we don't like it, but we have to!

I notice Councillor Truman has said the following in the article above,

"We are placed in this position because of continuing UK government austerity measures and the knock-on effect for Welsh Government which provides the largest share of local government funding.”

I ask you this, " How long has Ray Truman been a councillor? How long has Ray Truman worked alongside Bob Bright? Both now Leader (Yet again) and Deputy Leader respectively.

They have had an armchair ride as councillors over the past 20+ years whilst they have been cashing in their council allowances, the pressure is now firmly on them and what do they say,

It's not our fault, It's not the party we represents fault, and the best one of all, they are going to ask Newport residents and council staff what ideas they have to make savings.

Get this though, they are still raking in a cool £ 70-80 thousand combined council allowance, the austerity measures must be placing massive pressures on both of their lives!
[quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'... While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.[/p][/quote]Now I am no Tory voter, but to indicate that it's the Coalition's fault is a bit rich ? The Conservatives handed over a budget surplus to Messrs Blair and Brown back in 1997, then the two of them go on a massive spending spree and even sell off our gold reserves for a knockdown price and have a great time spending all the UK taxpayers money. The Coalition comes back into power in 2010, after 13 years of Labour spending and nothing is left, what were they supposed to do, keep on borrowing? My parents taught my an easy value as a child, "if you can't pay the money back don't borrow it!" I am not happy with all the cuts that are taking place, not just in Wales but the UK as a whole, what I realise is that the mess we are in was caused a long time ago by the previous Government, have you already forgotten what Former Labour Treasury chief secretary Liam Byrne said to David Laws in 2010 when he handed over the keys to the UK Treasury. 'I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left." Let's move forward to today, something had to be done, some say that the Government has cut too much too soon, some say not. I don't no the answer to this question. Whatever the rights and wrongs of this debate, there is a simple hard cold fact to all of it, We have to pay back what we borrowed, we don't like it, but we have to! I notice Councillor Truman has said the following in the article above, "We are placed in this position because of continuing UK government austerity measures and the knock-on effect for Welsh Government which provides the largest share of local government funding.” I ask you this, " How long has Ray Truman been a councillor? How long has Ray Truman worked alongside Bob Bright? Both now Leader (Yet again) and Deputy Leader respectively. They have had an armchair ride as councillors over the past 20+ years whilst they have been cashing in their council allowances, the pressure is now firmly on them and what do they say, It's not our fault, It's not the party we represents fault, and the best one of all, they are going to ask Newport residents and council staff what ideas they have to make savings. Get this though, they are still raking in a cool £ 70-80 thousand combined council allowance, the austerity measures must be placing massive pressures on both of their lives! Votefornoneoftheabove
  • Score: 31

1:32pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Floppy backed says...

out source HR for a start. Get some real HR people and start getting rid of dead lazy wood. Got to stop all these inhouse dept just far too expensive, accountancy, HR, legal its competitive and cost effective in business. There are some real hardworking people in the council who work for the benefit of the locality but the rest are there until they collect their pension under the safety net of the unions.
out source HR for a start. Get some real HR people and start getting rid of dead lazy wood. Got to stop all these inhouse dept just far too expensive, accountancy, HR, legal its competitive and cost effective in business. There are some real hardworking people in the council who work for the benefit of the locality but the rest are there until they collect their pension under the safety net of the unions. Floppy backed
  • Score: 11

1:40pm Wed 30 Jul 14

rodneyparader says...

Pride-in-the-Port!! wrote:
Get rid of Newport City Council & all the other Councils in the former County of Gwent, bring in one authority to cover Gwent and call it Gwent County Council. That would save millions by having less below par councillors, less chief exec salaries and less expenses! The savings can be put into providing services that are currently being cut. That's why WG want to have 12 authorities across Wales and the economies of scale savings would be welcomed by most tax payers.
How much did NCC waste on replacing perfectly good wheely bins - answer hundreds of thousands of pounds - who authorised this expenditure with all these cuts due to be made!? When UK / WG do give cash to the authorities it's just wasted on replacing perfectly good bins. In Wales there are too many authorities without a clue, I'm ashamed to say NCC is one of them and as a taxpayer I'm tired of them wasting my money.
Can't you see they are investing to save? With a £400 per tonne fine on waste going to landfill NCC obviously need to increase the recycling rates. Unfortunatly NCC are having to push people into this by decreasing the bin size.
[quote][p][bold]Pride-in-the-Port!![/bold] wrote: Get rid of Newport City Council & all the other Councils in the former County of Gwent, bring in one authority to cover Gwent and call it Gwent County Council. That would save millions by having less below par councillors, less chief exec salaries and less expenses! The savings can be put into providing services that are currently being cut. That's why WG want to have 12 authorities across Wales and the economies of scale savings would be welcomed by most tax payers. How much did NCC waste on replacing perfectly good wheely bins - answer hundreds of thousands of pounds - who authorised this expenditure with all these cuts due to be made!? When UK / WG do give cash to the authorities it's just wasted on replacing perfectly good bins. In Wales there are too many authorities without a clue, I'm ashamed to say NCC is one of them and as a taxpayer I'm tired of them wasting my money.[/p][/quote]Can't you see they are investing to save? With a £400 per tonne fine on waste going to landfill NCC obviously need to increase the recycling rates. Unfortunatly NCC are having to push people into this by decreasing the bin size. rodneyparader
  • Score: -3

1:42pm Wed 30 Jul 14

gingertom says...

Geraint williams says:

https://www.assembly
wales.org/epetition-
list-of-signatories.
htm?pet_id=1031

We call on the National Assembly for Wales to urge the Welsh Government to scrap Councillors’ salaries. With cuts to public services and increases in council tax it is right that councillors share the burden by having their salaries scrapped and replaced with payments of reimbursement only, much like magistrates. This will help to make savings in expensive local democracy.
Geraint williams says: https://www.assembly wales.org/epetition- list-of-signatories. htm?pet_id=1031 We call on the National Assembly for Wales to urge the Welsh Government to scrap Councillors’ salaries. With cuts to public services and increases in council tax it is right that councillors share the burden by having their salaries scrapped and replaced with payments of reimbursement only, much like magistrates. This will help to make savings in expensive local democracy. gingertom
  • Score: 13

1:42pm Wed 30 Jul 14

rodneyparader says...

Floppy backed wrote:
out source HR for a start. Get some real HR people and start getting rid of dead lazy wood. Got to stop all these inhouse dept just far too expensive, accountancy, HR, legal its competitive and cost effective in business. There are some real hardworking people in the council who work for the benefit of the locality but the rest are there until they collect their pension under the safety net of the unions.
Didn't work for the Prison Service did it?
[quote][p][bold]Floppy backed[/bold] wrote: out source HR for a start. Get some real HR people and start getting rid of dead lazy wood. Got to stop all these inhouse dept just far too expensive, accountancy, HR, legal its competitive and cost effective in business. There are some real hardworking people in the council who work for the benefit of the locality but the rest are there until they collect their pension under the safety net of the unions.[/p][/quote]Didn't work for the Prison Service did it? rodneyparader
  • Score: 8

1:57pm Wed 30 Jul 14

BassalegCountyFan says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
BassalegCountyFan wrote:
And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'...

While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.
Really? Didn't WAG recruit another 400 pen pushers recently? To do what? Help them wreck health and education here even more? They bought a loss making airport and then picked up the tab to keep it afloat. They announced another £1.6m for Welsh language projects only last week. It makes me laugh that Labour make a science of squandering other people's money then complain that there isn't enough.
Remind me which government:
- Short-changed the tax payer billions of pounds in a botched privatisation of the Royal Mail?
- Spent millions on a top-down reorganisation of the NHS that no one wanted, only to sack the Health Secretary after it was a flop?
- Paid millions for a Police and Crime Commisioner election that no one wanted?
-Spent millions on the 'free schools' project/debacle that no one wanted, only to sack the universally disliked Education Secretary after it was a flop?
- Squandered millions of pounds of taxpayer money on Ian Duncan Smith's Universal Credit switchover?

Ah yes, that'd be those tight-walleted tories. And that's just since 2010!
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'... While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.[/p][/quote]Really? Didn't WAG recruit another 400 pen pushers recently? To do what? Help them wreck health and education here even more? They bought a loss making airport and then picked up the tab to keep it afloat. They announced another £1.6m for Welsh language projects only last week. It makes me laugh that Labour make a science of squandering other people's money then complain that there isn't enough.[/p][/quote]Remind me which government: - Short-changed the tax payer billions of pounds in a botched privatisation of the Royal Mail? - Spent millions on a top-down reorganisation of the NHS that no one wanted, only to sack the Health Secretary after it was a flop? - Paid millions for a Police and Crime Commisioner election that no one wanted? -Spent millions on the 'free schools' project/debacle that no one wanted, only to sack the universally disliked Education Secretary after it was a flop? - Squandered millions of pounds of taxpayer money on Ian Duncan Smith's Universal Credit switchover? Ah yes, that'd be those tight-walleted tories. And that's just since 2010! BassalegCountyFan
  • Score: 33

2:53pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Bobevans says...

Quote "Preliminary work to identify potential savings has already begun, said the council's statement. "

They have known about these cuts for years and had the figure for this years cuts for several months but only now are they thinking about doing something about

We need fresh blood at Newport council. The no hopers that have been there for years need to be swept out. They are simply not up to the job

Ostriches with their heads in the sand
Quote "Preliminary work to identify potential savings has already begun, said the council's statement. " They have known about these cuts for years and had the figure for this years cuts for several months but only now are they thinking about doing something about We need fresh blood at Newport council. The no hopers that have been there for years need to be swept out. They are simply not up to the job Ostriches with their heads in the sand Bobevans
  • Score: -10

2:57pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Bobevans says...

Pride-in-the-Port!! wrote:
Get rid of Newport City Council & all the other Councils in the former County of Gwent, bring in one authority to cover Gwent and call it Gwent County Council. That would save millions by having less below par councillors, less chief exec salaries and less expenses! The savings can be put into providing services that are currently being cut. That's why WG want to have 12 authorities across Wales and the economies of scale savings would be welcomed by most tax payers.
How much did NCC waste on replacing perfectly good wheely bins - answer hundreds of thousands of pounds - who authorised this expenditure with all these cuts due to be made!? When UK / WG do give cash to the authorities it's just wasted on replacing perfectly good bins. In Wales there are too many authorities without a clue, I'm ashamed to say NCC is one of them and as a taxpayer I'm tired of them wasting my money.
We could have one regional council for South East Wales. One police force organised into 5 regions.

Local councillors can still represent the local areas but most major function's should be managed at a regional level

One Contact/Call centre for South East Wales but with small local office for those that want to attend personally

Sell off all the surplus council buildings as a result of this
[quote][p][bold]Pride-in-the-Port!![/bold] wrote: Get rid of Newport City Council & all the other Councils in the former County of Gwent, bring in one authority to cover Gwent and call it Gwent County Council. That would save millions by having less below par councillors, less chief exec salaries and less expenses! The savings can be put into providing services that are currently being cut. That's why WG want to have 12 authorities across Wales and the economies of scale savings would be welcomed by most tax payers. How much did NCC waste on replacing perfectly good wheely bins - answer hundreds of thousands of pounds - who authorised this expenditure with all these cuts due to be made!? When UK / WG do give cash to the authorities it's just wasted on replacing perfectly good bins. In Wales there are too many authorities without a clue, I'm ashamed to say NCC is one of them and as a taxpayer I'm tired of them wasting my money.[/p][/quote]We could have one regional council for South East Wales. One police force organised into 5 regions. Local councillors can still represent the local areas but most major function's should be managed at a regional level One Contact/Call centre for South East Wales but with small local office for those that want to attend personally Sell off all the surplus council buildings as a result of this Bobevans
  • Score: -10

2:58pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Bobevans says...

BassalegCountyFan wrote:
And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'...

While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.
The WAG is responsible for Wales. The buck stops with them
[quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'... While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.[/p][/quote]The WAG is responsible for Wales. The buck stops with them Bobevans
  • Score: -15

3:00pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Bobevans says...

gingertom wrote:
Geraint williams says:

https://www.assembly

wales.org/epetition-

list-of-signatories.

htm?pet_id=1031

We call on the National Assembly for Wales to urge the Welsh Government to scrap Councillors’ salaries. With cuts to public services and increases in council tax it is right that councillors share the burden by having their salaries scrapped and replaced with payments of reimbursement only, much like magistrates. This will help to make savings in expensive local democracy.
Have one Regional Council for South East Wales. Reduce the number of local councillors from 3 per ward to one per ward

No Council employee to be paid more than the First Minister
[quote][p][bold]gingertom[/bold] wrote: Geraint williams says: https://www.assembly wales.org/epetition- list-of-signatories. htm?pet_id=1031 We call on the National Assembly for Wales to urge the Welsh Government to scrap Councillors’ salaries. With cuts to public services and increases in council tax it is right that councillors share the burden by having their salaries scrapped and replaced with payments of reimbursement only, much like magistrates. This will help to make savings in expensive local democracy.[/p][/quote]Have one Regional Council for South East Wales. Reduce the number of local councillors from 3 per ward to one per ward No Council employee to be paid more than the First Minister Bobevans
  • Score: 8

3:02pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Bobevans says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
BassalegCountyFan wrote:
And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'...

While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.
Really? Didn't WAG recruit another 400 pen pushers recently? To do what? Help them wreck health and education here even more? They bought a loss making airport and then picked up the tab to keep it afloat. They announced another £1.6m for Welsh language projects only last week. It makes me laugh that Labour make a science of squandering other people's money then complain that there isn't enough.
The WAG waste money on useless projects and administration and then bleat it is all Westminster fault. The buck stops with the Clowns down in the
bay & the LA's bother have been refusing to cut budgets and have refused to reorganise

With reorganisation at least a £100M could be saved in Wales
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'... While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.[/p][/quote]Really? Didn't WAG recruit another 400 pen pushers recently? To do what? Help them wreck health and education here even more? They bought a loss making airport and then picked up the tab to keep it afloat. They announced another £1.6m for Welsh language projects only last week. It makes me laugh that Labour make a science of squandering other people's money then complain that there isn't enough.[/p][/quote]The WAG waste money on useless projects and administration and then bleat it is all Westminster fault. The buck stops with the Clowns down in the bay & the LA's bother have been refusing to cut budgets and have refused to reorganise With reorganisation at least a £100M could be saved in Wales Bobevans
  • Score: -12

3:05pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Mr Bump. says...

throwy1 wrote:
How much does the Local; Authority pay out in compensation each year as some of the public jump on the compensation gravy train?
They don't the insurance firms do.
[quote][p][bold]throwy1[/bold] wrote: How much does the Local; Authority pay out in compensation each year as some of the public jump on the compensation gravy train?[/p][/quote]They don't the insurance firms do. Mr Bump.
  • Score: -1

3:09pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Bobevans says...

How they waste our money

Welsh civil servants tucking into subsidised gourmet meals cost the public purse £423,000 last year, it has been revealed.

The Welsh Government has been criticised for the level of subsidy it provides at staff canteens which serve meals like grilled Welsh pork loin steak with leek and black pudding mash for just £2.95

The bill to the public purse for subsidising civil servants’ food has gone up by 61% in the last four years as the staff canteens have been rolled out in more Welsh Government offices.


Most people have been lucky to get a 1% rise. There is no excuse for this
How they waste our money Welsh civil servants tucking into subsidised gourmet meals cost the public purse £423,000 last year, it has been revealed. The Welsh Government has been criticised for the level of subsidy it provides at staff canteens which serve meals like grilled Welsh pork loin steak with leek and black pudding mash for just £2.95 The bill to the public purse for subsidising civil servants’ food has gone up by 61% in the last four years as the staff canteens have been rolled out in more Welsh Government offices. Most people have been lucky to get a 1% rise. There is no excuse for this Bobevans
  • Score: 20

3:42pm Wed 30 Jul 14

taffygwent says...

And they all continue to ride the gravy train
And they all continue to ride the gravy train taffygwent
  • Score: 11

3:42pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Llanmartinangel says...

BassalegCountyFan wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
BassalegCountyFan wrote:
And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'...

While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.
Really? Didn't WAG recruit another 400 pen pushers recently? To do what? Help them wreck health and education here even more? They bought a loss making airport and then picked up the tab to keep it afloat. They announced another £1.6m for Welsh language projects only last week. It makes me laugh that Labour make a science of squandering other people's money then complain that there isn't enough.
Remind me which government:
- Short-changed the tax payer billions of pounds in a botched privatisation of the Royal Mail?
- Spent millions on a top-down reorganisation of the NHS that no one wanted, only to sack the Health Secretary after it was a flop?
- Paid millions for a Police and Crime Commisioner election that no one wanted?
-Spent millions on the 'free schools' project/debacle that no one wanted, only to sack the universally disliked Education Secretary after it was a flop?
- Squandered millions of pounds of taxpayer money on Ian Duncan Smith's Universal Credit switchover?

Ah yes, that'd be those tight-walleted tories. And that's just since 2010!
I don't think that the party which introduced a benefit system with no upper limit even for those who have never worked, spent tens of billions on wars, presided over the expensive car crash of devolution, increased the public sector workforce by 900000 to no discernible benefit, and then raised 140 taxes in apparently boom years to pay for it and still ended up in horrendous debt, are in any position to lecture on financial acumen. Do you?
[quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'... While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.[/p][/quote]Really? Didn't WAG recruit another 400 pen pushers recently? To do what? Help them wreck health and education here even more? They bought a loss making airport and then picked up the tab to keep it afloat. They announced another £1.6m for Welsh language projects only last week. It makes me laugh that Labour make a science of squandering other people's money then complain that there isn't enough.[/p][/quote]Remind me which government: - Short-changed the tax payer billions of pounds in a botched privatisation of the Royal Mail? - Spent millions on a top-down reorganisation of the NHS that no one wanted, only to sack the Health Secretary after it was a flop? - Paid millions for a Police and Crime Commisioner election that no one wanted? -Spent millions on the 'free schools' project/debacle that no one wanted, only to sack the universally disliked Education Secretary after it was a flop? - Squandered millions of pounds of taxpayer money on Ian Duncan Smith's Universal Credit switchover? Ah yes, that'd be those tight-walleted tories. And that's just since 2010![/p][/quote]I don't think that the party which introduced a benefit system with no upper limit even for those who have never worked, spent tens of billions on wars, presided over the expensive car crash of devolution, increased the public sector workforce by 900000 to no discernible benefit, and then raised 140 taxes in apparently boom years to pay for it and still ended up in horrendous debt, are in any position to lecture on financial acumen. Do you? Llanmartinangel
  • Score: -21

4:03pm Wed 30 Jul 14

thatcherslovechild says...

So when things go well it's Newport Council making great choices but bad news is down to Westminster not even WAG. Not a huge fan of the coalition but I find it unbelievable that all good news is Wales showing they are world player's but bad news is always down to the bogey men in Westminster
So when things go well it's Newport Council making great choices but bad news is down to Westminster not even WAG. Not a huge fan of the coalition but I find it unbelievable that all good news is Wales showing they are world player's but bad news is always down to the bogey men in Westminster thatcherslovechild
  • Score: 7

4:19pm Wed 30 Jul 14

KarloMarko says...

Slashing budgets, closing entire departments...Still, how is that £90m "loan" to Debenhams coming along? Is Newport still good and sound for that? Washers, bottle tops etc building up in the Civic basement are they? GREAT.
Slashing budgets, closing entire departments...Still, how is that £90m "loan" to Debenhams coming along? Is Newport still good and sound for that? Washers, bottle tops etc building up in the Civic basement are they? GREAT. KarloMarko
  • Score: 23

4:59pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Japan1 says...

Come on councillors show the lead, get rid of yourselves and save us a fortune.
Come on councillors show the lead, get rid of yourselves and save us a fortune. Japan1
  • Score: 13

5:06pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Woodgnome says...

Don't expect very much everyone with a bunch of tellytubbies in control of Newport.. It's at times like this, the gross inadequacies of our "elected" leaders show themselves.
Don't expect very much everyone with a bunch of tellytubbies in control of Newport.. It's at times like this, the gross inadequacies of our "elected" leaders show themselves. Woodgnome
  • Score: 8

6:04pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Magor says...

Merge Councils,scrap WAG we dont need them all and cant afford them.
Merge Councils,scrap WAG we dont need them all and cant afford them. Magor
  • Score: 16

6:08pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Llanmartingargoyle says...

The UK has been on its knees now since 2007.... due to Wreck less Bankers, but hey give the boys a break because nearly all of it is Labours fault. The Tories have caused immense vandalism I agree and this bunch of overprivileged posh boys have done irreparable damage to the fabric of society, but so what the big society will put it all right for no wages at all. It's possible that Cameron will pull some rabbit out of a hat for the Etonians between now and election time and it will all be worth it, we can then forget all about the fact that the majority of people in poverty in the UK are working and keep them on low wages or zero hours this will help to keep wages growing for the few at the top of the ladder and eventually the working poor will benefit because it will all trickle down, “you poor sods” we hear your cry but hang on in there.

We should carry on with the cuts even though there’s no need it will help disperse council workers who are the last of the big Union contributors so if we crack that last glimmer of hope the poor have,
we can keep them down for ever lol.

David Cameron has demonstrated that he is indeed a listening man!
...he employed Andy Coulson

Tory cuts so far, 20,000 Army, 5,000 Navy, 5,000 RAF, 60,000 NHS, 16,000 Police, 730,000 Public Sector,1,500 Firemen, 0 Bankers (not Bank workers)

Thatchers legacy of destroying workers rights lives on
“Just rejoice at that news”


Check out trickle down theory and how it will help you:

http://youtu.be/3U1D
_T-tSTw
The UK has been on its knees now since 2007.... due to Wreck less Bankers, but hey give the boys a break because nearly all of it is Labours fault. The Tories have caused immense vandalism I agree and this bunch of overprivileged posh boys have done irreparable damage to the fabric of society, but so what the big society will put it all right for no wages at all. It's possible that Cameron will pull some rabbit out of a hat for the Etonians between now and election time and it will all be worth it, we can then forget all about the fact that the majority of people in poverty in the UK are working and keep them on low wages or zero hours this will help to keep wages growing for the few at the top of the ladder and eventually the working poor will benefit because it will all trickle down, “you poor sods” we hear your cry but hang on in there. We should carry on with the cuts even though there’s no need it will help disperse council workers who are the last of the big Union contributors so if we crack that last glimmer of hope the poor have, we can keep them down for ever lol. David Cameron has demonstrated that he is indeed a listening man! ...he employed Andy Coulson Tory cuts so far, 20,000 Army, 5,000 Navy, 5,000 RAF, 60,000 NHS, 16,000 Police, 730,000 Public Sector,1,500 Firemen, 0 Bankers (not Bank workers) Thatchers legacy of destroying workers rights lives on “Just rejoice at that news” Check out trickle down theory and how it will help you: http://youtu.be/3U1D _T-tSTw Llanmartingargoyle
  • Score: 25

6:11pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Magor says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
BassalegCountyFan wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
BassalegCountyFan wrote:
And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'...

While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.
Really? Didn't WAG recruit another 400 pen pushers recently? To do what? Help them wreck health and education here even more? They bought a loss making airport and then picked up the tab to keep it afloat. They announced another £1.6m for Welsh language projects only last week. It makes me laugh that Labour make a science of squandering other people's money then complain that there isn't enough.
Remind me which government:
- Short-changed the tax payer billions of pounds in a botched privatisation of the Royal Mail?
- Spent millions on a top-down reorganisation of the NHS that no one wanted, only to sack the Health Secretary after it was a flop?
- Paid millions for a Police and Crime Commisioner election that no one wanted?
-Spent millions on the 'free schools' project/debacle that no one wanted, only to sack the universally disliked Education Secretary after it was a flop?
- Squandered millions of pounds of taxpayer money on Ian Duncan Smith's Universal Credit switchover?

Ah yes, that'd be those tight-walleted tories. And that's just since 2010!
I don't think that the party which introduced a benefit system with no upper limit even for those who have never worked, spent tens of billions on wars, presided over the expensive car crash of devolution, increased the public sector workforce by 900000 to no discernible benefit, and then raised 140 taxes in apparently boom years to pay for it and still ended up in horrendous debt, are in any position to lecture on financial acumen. Do you?
Labour wrecked the economy in the 70s by giving Unions a free hand then next time round gave the Banks a free hand.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'... While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.[/p][/quote]Really? Didn't WAG recruit another 400 pen pushers recently? To do what? Help them wreck health and education here even more? They bought a loss making airport and then picked up the tab to keep it afloat. They announced another £1.6m for Welsh language projects only last week. It makes me laugh that Labour make a science of squandering other people's money then complain that there isn't enough.[/p][/quote]Remind me which government: - Short-changed the tax payer billions of pounds in a botched privatisation of the Royal Mail? - Spent millions on a top-down reorganisation of the NHS that no one wanted, only to sack the Health Secretary after it was a flop? - Paid millions for a Police and Crime Commisioner election that no one wanted? -Spent millions on the 'free schools' project/debacle that no one wanted, only to sack the universally disliked Education Secretary after it was a flop? - Squandered millions of pounds of taxpayer money on Ian Duncan Smith's Universal Credit switchover? Ah yes, that'd be those tight-walleted tories. And that's just since 2010![/p][/quote]I don't think that the party which introduced a benefit system with no upper limit even for those who have never worked, spent tens of billions on wars, presided over the expensive car crash of devolution, increased the public sector workforce by 900000 to no discernible benefit, and then raised 140 taxes in apparently boom years to pay for it and still ended up in horrendous debt, are in any position to lecture on financial acumen. Do you?[/p][/quote]Labour wrecked the economy in the 70s by giving Unions a free hand then next time round gave the Banks a free hand. Magor
  • Score: -16

6:33pm Wed 30 Jul 14

PrivateTom10000001 says...

Are the cuts a necessity or Ideology driven by the Tory government?
The evidence of this is all around. There are 1.3m jobs on zero-hour contracts; wages can barely keep pace with price increases, even with unemployment coming down at a fair lick. Around half of the jobs created in the past year have been for the self-employed, with the suspicion that many of those running their own business are doing so involuntarily and many jobs are zero hours based.
Either the power of labour will be increased by full employment, stronger trade unions and collective bargaining or the flexible labour market will arrive at its ultimate destination: a form of capitalism that cannot function without excessive debt, its marked by low wages, low investment and low productivity. A few at the top and usually in the South will flourish wile millions will suffer.
Trickle down economics do not work. 'Flexible' labour markets have merely allowed employers to take more profit from productivity without passing the benefits on to workers in the form of wage increases. There has only ever been one way for workers to ensure that they receive a fair share of the pie and protect their jobs and that is to organise themselves into unions to bargain for better wages and conditions. Unfortunately the attack on representation in the workplace by the Tory led government in the form of job losses and cuts in the public sector is now reaping the rewards for the wealthy few.
Are the cuts a necessity or Ideology driven by the Tory government? The evidence of this is all around. There are 1.3m jobs on zero-hour contracts; wages can barely keep pace with price increases, even with unemployment coming down at a fair lick. Around half of the jobs created in the past year have been for the self-employed, with the suspicion that many of those running their own business are doing so involuntarily and many jobs are zero hours based. Either the power of labour will be increased by full employment, stronger trade unions and collective bargaining or the flexible labour market will arrive at its ultimate destination: a form of capitalism that cannot function without excessive debt, its marked by low wages, low investment and low productivity. A few at the top and usually in the South will flourish wile millions will suffer. Trickle down economics do not work. 'Flexible' labour markets have merely allowed employers to take more profit from productivity without passing the benefits on to workers in the form of wage increases. There has only ever been one way for workers to ensure that they receive a fair share of the pie and protect their jobs and that is to organise themselves into unions to bargain for better wages and conditions. Unfortunately the attack on representation in the workplace by the Tory led government in the form of job losses and cuts in the public sector is now reaping the rewards for the wealthy few. PrivateTom10000001
  • Score: 15

6:48pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Magor says...

PrivateTom10000001 wrote:
Are the cuts a necessity or Ideology driven by the Tory government?
The evidence of this is all around. There are 1.3m jobs on zero-hour contracts; wages can barely keep pace with price increases, even with unemployment coming down at a fair lick. Around half of the jobs created in the past year have been for the self-employed, with the suspicion that many of those running their own business are doing so involuntarily and many jobs are zero hours based.
Either the power of labour will be increased by full employment, stronger trade unions and collective bargaining or the flexible labour market will arrive at its ultimate destination: a form of capitalism that cannot function without excessive debt, its marked by low wages, low investment and low productivity. A few at the top and usually in the South will flourish wile millions will suffer.
Trickle down economics do not work. 'Flexible' labour markets have merely allowed employers to take more profit from productivity without passing the benefits on to workers in the form of wage increases. There has only ever been one way for workers to ensure that they receive a fair share of the pie and protect their jobs and that is to organise themselves into unions to bargain for better wages and conditions. Unfortunately the attack on representation in the workplace by the Tory led government in the form of job losses and cuts in the public sector is now reaping the rewards for the wealthy few.
Whilst there are more people than jobs wages wont rise no matter who is in power.Remember the whole of the EU can come and work here.
[quote][p][bold]PrivateTom10000001[/bold] wrote: Are the cuts a necessity or Ideology driven by the Tory government? The evidence of this is all around. There are 1.3m jobs on zero-hour contracts; wages can barely keep pace with price increases, even with unemployment coming down at a fair lick. Around half of the jobs created in the past year have been for the self-employed, with the suspicion that many of those running their own business are doing so involuntarily and many jobs are zero hours based. Either the power of labour will be increased by full employment, stronger trade unions and collective bargaining or the flexible labour market will arrive at its ultimate destination: a form of capitalism that cannot function without excessive debt, its marked by low wages, low investment and low productivity. A few at the top and usually in the South will flourish wile millions will suffer. Trickle down economics do not work. 'Flexible' labour markets have merely allowed employers to take more profit from productivity without passing the benefits on to workers in the form of wage increases. There has only ever been one way for workers to ensure that they receive a fair share of the pie and protect their jobs and that is to organise themselves into unions to bargain for better wages and conditions. Unfortunately the attack on representation in the workplace by the Tory led government in the form of job losses and cuts in the public sector is now reaping the rewards for the wealthy few.[/p][/quote]Whilst there are more people than jobs wages wont rise no matter who is in power.Remember the whole of the EU can come and work here. Magor
  • Score: -16

7:28pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Independentvoter says...

Mr Bump. wrote:
throwy1 wrote:
How much does the Local; Authority pay out in compensation each year as some of the public jump on the compensation gravy train?
They don't the insurance firms do.
Correct ! the same with nhs negligence cases - people don't take money away from the nhs or the council at all - some people have the wrong idea on how the system works - the nhs and the council have insurers.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Bump.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]throwy1[/bold] wrote: How much does the Local; Authority pay out in compensation each year as some of the public jump on the compensation gravy train?[/p][/quote]They don't the insurance firms do.[/p][/quote]Correct ! the same with nhs negligence cases - people don't take money away from the nhs or the council at all - some people have the wrong idea on how the system works - the nhs and the council have insurers. Independentvoter
  • Score: -2

7:33pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Independentvoter says...

All governments have been borrowing billions fro years and putting our country in debt - because of their borrowing (not ours) we have to pay - its the same with NCC we have voted in people who have not got a clue how to budget millions of pounds and never had the experience - we need to find some good business people who can turn this mess around as councillors are not capable !
All governments have been borrowing billions fro years and putting our country in debt - because of their borrowing (not ours) we have to pay - its the same with NCC we have voted in people who have not got a clue how to budget millions of pounds and never had the experience - we need to find some good business people who can turn this mess around as councillors are not capable ! Independentvoter
  • Score: 13

7:39pm Wed 30 Jul 14

PrivateTom10000001 says...

Magor wrote:
PrivateTom10000001 wrote:
Are the cuts a necessity or Ideology driven by the Tory government?
The evidence of this is all around. There are 1.3m jobs on zero-hour contracts; wages can barely keep pace with price increases, even with unemployment coming down at a fair lick. Around half of the jobs created in the past year have been for the self-employed, with the suspicion that many of those running their own business are doing so involuntarily and many jobs are zero hours based.
Either the power of labour will be increased by full employment, stronger trade unions and collective bargaining or the flexible labour market will arrive at its ultimate destination: a form of capitalism that cannot function without excessive debt, its marked by low wages, low investment and low productivity. A few at the top and usually in the South will flourish wile millions will suffer.
Trickle down economics do not work. 'Flexible' labour markets have merely allowed employers to take more profit from productivity without passing the benefits on to workers in the form of wage increases. There has only ever been one way for workers to ensure that they receive a fair share of the pie and protect their jobs and that is to organise themselves into unions to bargain for better wages and conditions. Unfortunately the attack on representation in the workplace by the Tory led government in the form of job losses and cuts in the public sector is now reaping the rewards for the wealthy few.
Whilst there are more people than jobs wages wont rise no matter who is in power.Remember the whole of the EU can come and work here.
Immigration is not a factor here that’s just bull, anybody with an ounce of intelligence will cotton on to that porky very quickly.
The fact of the matter is, wages wont rise as long as big corporate business like Vodafone for example keep dodging tax, and the Government keep letting them get away with it.
[quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PrivateTom10000001[/bold] wrote: Are the cuts a necessity or Ideology driven by the Tory government? The evidence of this is all around. There are 1.3m jobs on zero-hour contracts; wages can barely keep pace with price increases, even with unemployment coming down at a fair lick. Around half of the jobs created in the past year have been for the self-employed, with the suspicion that many of those running their own business are doing so involuntarily and many jobs are zero hours based. Either the power of labour will be increased by full employment, stronger trade unions and collective bargaining or the flexible labour market will arrive at its ultimate destination: a form of capitalism that cannot function without excessive debt, its marked by low wages, low investment and low productivity. A few at the top and usually in the South will flourish wile millions will suffer. Trickle down economics do not work. 'Flexible' labour markets have merely allowed employers to take more profit from productivity without passing the benefits on to workers in the form of wage increases. There has only ever been one way for workers to ensure that they receive a fair share of the pie and protect their jobs and that is to organise themselves into unions to bargain for better wages and conditions. Unfortunately the attack on representation in the workplace by the Tory led government in the form of job losses and cuts in the public sector is now reaping the rewards for the wealthy few.[/p][/quote]Whilst there are more people than jobs wages wont rise no matter who is in power.Remember the whole of the EU can come and work here.[/p][/quote]Immigration is not a factor here that’s just bull, anybody with an ounce of intelligence will cotton on to that porky very quickly. The fact of the matter is, wages wont rise as long as big corporate business like Vodafone for example keep dodging tax, and the Government keep letting them get away with it. PrivateTom10000001
  • Score: 24

8:17pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Roger Elliot says...

The treasury owes Wales millions. Literally. We wouldn't have any of this nonsense if they'd just hand it over!
The treasury owes Wales millions. Literally. We wouldn't have any of this nonsense if they'd just hand it over! Roger Elliot
  • Score: 1

8:53pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Mr Holder says...

PrivateTom10000001 wrote:
Magor wrote:
PrivateTom10000001 wrote:
Are the cuts a necessity or Ideology driven by the Tory government?
The evidence of this is all around. There are 1.3m jobs on zero-hour contracts; wages can barely keep pace with price increases, even with unemployment coming down at a fair lick. Around half of the jobs created in the past year have been for the self-employed, with the suspicion that many of those running their own business are doing so involuntarily and many jobs are zero hours based.
Either the power of labour will be increased by full employment, stronger trade unions and collective bargaining or the flexible labour market will arrive at its ultimate destination: a form of capitalism that cannot function without excessive debt, its marked by low wages, low investment and low productivity. A few at the top and usually in the South will flourish wile millions will suffer.
Trickle down economics do not work. 'Flexible' labour markets have merely allowed employers to take more profit from productivity without passing the benefits on to workers in the form of wage increases. There has only ever been one way for workers to ensure that they receive a fair share of the pie and protect their jobs and that is to organise themselves into unions to bargain for better wages and conditions. Unfortunately the attack on representation in the workplace by the Tory led government in the form of job losses and cuts in the public sector is now reaping the rewards for the wealthy few.
Whilst there are more people than jobs wages wont rise no matter who is in power.Remember the whole of the EU can come and work here.
Immigration is not a factor here that’s just bull, anybody with an ounce of intelligence will cotton on to that porky very quickly.
The fact of the matter is, wages wont rise as long as big corporate business like Vodafone for example keep dodging tax, and the Government keep letting them get away with it.
Nonsense, wages are a direct result of competition for labour. You cannot have an unlimited source of cheap E.U (or otherwise) migrant labour from countries whose economies are in decline and have wage inflation.

Immigration also has a net impact on the cost of local services for example, education (the U.K is 130,000 primary school places short), health and transport, not to mention most immigrants occupy lower wages positions in the economy and are therefore entitled to working/family tax credits (17% of all claims) and housing benefit.

Vodafone et al love the corporatist E.U not least for it's burdensome regulations, which limit competition from SMEs, it's pool of cheap migrant labour but also because of single market rules it has the ability to 'offshore' profits via other member states tax rules.
[quote][p][bold]PrivateTom10000001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PrivateTom10000001[/bold] wrote: Are the cuts a necessity or Ideology driven by the Tory government? The evidence of this is all around. There are 1.3m jobs on zero-hour contracts; wages can barely keep pace with price increases, even with unemployment coming down at a fair lick. Around half of the jobs created in the past year have been for the self-employed, with the suspicion that many of those running their own business are doing so involuntarily and many jobs are zero hours based. Either the power of labour will be increased by full employment, stronger trade unions and collective bargaining or the flexible labour market will arrive at its ultimate destination: a form of capitalism that cannot function without excessive debt, its marked by low wages, low investment and low productivity. A few at the top and usually in the South will flourish wile millions will suffer. Trickle down economics do not work. 'Flexible' labour markets have merely allowed employers to take more profit from productivity without passing the benefits on to workers in the form of wage increases. There has only ever been one way for workers to ensure that they receive a fair share of the pie and protect their jobs and that is to organise themselves into unions to bargain for better wages and conditions. Unfortunately the attack on representation in the workplace by the Tory led government in the form of job losses and cuts in the public sector is now reaping the rewards for the wealthy few.[/p][/quote]Whilst there are more people than jobs wages wont rise no matter who is in power.Remember the whole of the EU can come and work here.[/p][/quote]Immigration is not a factor here that’s just bull, anybody with an ounce of intelligence will cotton on to that porky very quickly. The fact of the matter is, wages wont rise as long as big corporate business like Vodafone for example keep dodging tax, and the Government keep letting them get away with it.[/p][/quote]Nonsense, wages are a direct result of competition for labour. You cannot have an unlimited source of cheap E.U (or otherwise) migrant labour from countries whose economies are in decline and have wage inflation. Immigration also has a net impact on the cost of local services for example, education (the U.K is 130,000 primary school places short), health and transport, not to mention most immigrants occupy lower wages positions in the economy and are therefore entitled to working/family tax credits (17% of all claims) and housing benefit. Vodafone et al love the corporatist E.U not least for it's burdensome regulations, which limit competition from SMEs, it's pool of cheap migrant labour but also because of single market rules it has the ability to 'offshore' profits via other member states tax rules. Mr Holder
  • Score: -7

9:03pm Wed 30 Jul 14

scraptheWAG says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
BassalegCountyFan wrote:
And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'...

While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.
Really? Didn't WAG recruit another 400 pen pushers recently? To do what? Help them wreck health and education here even more? They bought a loss making airport and then picked up the tab to keep it afloat. They announced another £1.6m for Welsh language projects only last week. It makes me laugh that Labour make a science of squandering other people's money then complain that there isn't enough.
you have to give labour one thing it still can convince the poorly educated that its all nasty david camerons fault , we had a inflation busting rise in council tax and services have to be cut.

DEVOLUTION IS COMING HOME TO ROOST
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'... While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.[/p][/quote]Really? Didn't WAG recruit another 400 pen pushers recently? To do what? Help them wreck health and education here even more? They bought a loss making airport and then picked up the tab to keep it afloat. They announced another £1.6m for Welsh language projects only last week. It makes me laugh that Labour make a science of squandering other people's money then complain that there isn't enough.[/p][/quote]you have to give labour one thing it still can convince the poorly educated that its all nasty david camerons fault , we had a inflation busting rise in council tax and services have to be cut. DEVOLUTION IS COMING HOME TO ROOST scraptheWAG
  • Score: -19

9:10pm Wed 30 Jul 14

scraptheWAG says...

Bobevans wrote:
How they waste our money

Welsh civil servants tucking into subsidised gourmet meals cost the public purse £423,000 last year, it has been revealed.

The Welsh Government has been criticised for the level of subsidy it provides at staff canteens which serve meals like grilled Welsh pork loin steak with leek and black pudding mash for just £2.95

The bill to the public purse for subsidising civil servants’ food has gone up by 61% in the last four years as the staff canteens have been rolled out in more Welsh Government offices.


Most people have been lucky to get a 1% rise. There is no excuse for this
you would think merris hughes on 100k could afford her own food and carwyn could skip a meal or two
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: How they waste our money Welsh civil servants tucking into subsidised gourmet meals cost the public purse £423,000 last year, it has been revealed. The Welsh Government has been criticised for the level of subsidy it provides at staff canteens which serve meals like grilled Welsh pork loin steak with leek and black pudding mash for just £2.95 The bill to the public purse for subsidising civil servants’ food has gone up by 61% in the last four years as the staff canteens have been rolled out in more Welsh Government offices. Most people have been lucky to get a 1% rise. There is no excuse for this[/p][/quote]you would think merris hughes on 100k could afford her own food and carwyn could skip a meal or two scraptheWAG
  • Score: -12

9:43pm Wed 30 Jul 14

scraptheWAG says...

Llanmartingargoyle wrote:
The UK has been on its knees now since 2007.... due to Wreck less Bankers, but hey give the boys a break because nearly all of it is Labours fault. The Tories have caused immense vandalism I agree and this bunch of overprivileged posh boys have done irreparable damage to the fabric of society, but so what the big society will put it all right for no wages at all. It's possible that Cameron will pull some rabbit out of a hat for the Etonians between now and election time and it will all be worth it, we can then forget all about the fact that the majority of people in poverty in the UK are working and keep them on low wages or zero hours this will help to keep wages growing for the few at the top of the ladder and eventually the working poor will benefit because it will all trickle down, “you poor sods” we hear your cry but hang on in there.

We should carry on with the cuts even though there’s no need it will help disperse council workers who are the last of the big Union contributors so if we crack that last glimmer of hope the poor have,
we can keep them down for ever lol.

David Cameron has demonstrated that he is indeed a listening man!
...he employed Andy Coulson

Tory cuts so far, 20,000 Army, 5,000 Navy, 5,000 RAF, 60,000 NHS, 16,000 Police, 730,000 Public Sector,1,500 Firemen, 0 Bankers (not Bank workers)

Thatchers legacy of destroying workers rights lives on
“Just rejoice at that news”


Check out trickle down theory and how it will help you:

http://youtu.be/3U1D

_T-tSTw
why would the government be sacking staff its got nothing to do with them
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartingargoyle[/bold] wrote: The UK has been on its knees now since 2007.... due to Wreck less Bankers, but hey give the boys a break because nearly all of it is Labours fault. The Tories have caused immense vandalism I agree and this bunch of overprivileged posh boys have done irreparable damage to the fabric of society, but so what the big society will put it all right for no wages at all. It's possible that Cameron will pull some rabbit out of a hat for the Etonians between now and election time and it will all be worth it, we can then forget all about the fact that the majority of people in poverty in the UK are working and keep them on low wages or zero hours this will help to keep wages growing for the few at the top of the ladder and eventually the working poor will benefit because it will all trickle down, “you poor sods” we hear your cry but hang on in there. We should carry on with the cuts even though there’s no need it will help disperse council workers who are the last of the big Union contributors so if we crack that last glimmer of hope the poor have, we can keep them down for ever lol. David Cameron has demonstrated that he is indeed a listening man! ...he employed Andy Coulson Tory cuts so far, 20,000 Army, 5,000 Navy, 5,000 RAF, 60,000 NHS, 16,000 Police, 730,000 Public Sector,1,500 Firemen, 0 Bankers (not Bank workers) Thatchers legacy of destroying workers rights lives on “Just rejoice at that news” Check out trickle down theory and how it will help you: http://youtu.be/3U1D _T-tSTw[/p][/quote]why would the government be sacking staff its got nothing to do with them scraptheWAG
  • Score: -22

10:04pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Doberman1 says...

I recently had to pursue a council tax query for my elderly mother (a very straight forward one I may add). It was swapped around between 5 different people all dealing with individual aspects of council tax. 5 people to deal with 1 subject matter, please don't tell me that public service admin is not still woefully bloated. They are still miles away from private sector levels of efficiency.
I recently had to pursue a council tax query for my elderly mother (a very straight forward one I may add). It was swapped around between 5 different people all dealing with individual aspects of council tax. 5 people to deal with 1 subject matter, please don't tell me that public service admin is not still woefully bloated. They are still miles away from private sector levels of efficiency. Doberman1
  • Score: 3

10:44pm Wed 30 Jul 14

KarloMarko says...

Yes, like you I cant wait until every aspect of Newport's overweight administration is outsourced to the superb Serco and run out of a call centre in downtown Dehli. YOU know it makes sense........
Yes, like you I cant wait until every aspect of Newport's overweight administration is outsourced to the superb Serco and run out of a call centre in downtown Dehli. YOU know it makes sense........ KarloMarko
  • Score: 7

10:54pm Wed 30 Jul 14

landyman3030 says...

BassalegCountyFan wrote:
And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'...

While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.
What a load of tripe.
Take your head out of the sand, swill the ears out and open your eyes and look around. How well documented are the FACTS that the WAG have openly spent over one hundred million pounds on vanity projects with the airport and the racetrack to name two. They have magically found £20,000,000 for struggling schools who are only struggling because they have been strangled for funds for the last ten years. They have magically found another £1,500,000 for the Welsh Language. Again. They have kept the millions that were supposed to save the council tax increases we have all suffered and chosen to spend it on other things. How many times do we hear the proof. And then somebody like you spouts up with " you can't blame the welsh government for this can you?"
YES YOU BLOODY CAN.
It's the people like you who are more than likely going to vote Labour because it's the family tradition in May 2015. Blind leading the blind. How sad.
[quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'... While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.[/p][/quote]What a load of tripe. Take your head out of the sand, swill the ears out and open your eyes and look around. How well documented are the FACTS that the WAG have openly spent over one hundred million pounds on vanity projects with the airport and the racetrack to name two. They have magically found £20,000,000 for struggling schools who are only struggling because they have been strangled for funds for the last ten years. They have magically found another £1,500,000 for the Welsh Language. Again. They have kept the millions that were supposed to save the council tax increases we have all suffered and chosen to spend it on other things. How many times do we hear the proof. And then somebody like you spouts up with " you can't blame the welsh government for this can you?" YES YOU BLOODY CAN. It's the people like you who are more than likely going to vote Labour because it's the family tradition in May 2015. Blind leading the blind. How sad. landyman3030
  • Score: 0

6:38am Thu 31 Jul 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

At the same time Cameron gives away several million here, several million there as 'aid' to foreign countries every day. Okay, let's help people in other countries when they really need it but let's first check that it goes to those who really need it and not into some space programme designed purely to boost a failing regime's own prestige.
At the same time Cameron gives away several million here, several million there as 'aid' to foreign countries every day. Okay, let's help people in other countries when they really need it but let's first check that it goes to those who really need it and not into some space programme designed purely to boost a failing regime's own prestige. Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 5

6:40am Thu 31 Jul 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

Curiously enough, Britain is also ranked as the sixth wealthiest nation in the world. This begs the question as to where all this wealth is going.
Curiously enough, Britain is also ranked as the sixth wealthiest nation in the world. This begs the question as to where all this wealth is going. Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 12

8:15am Thu 31 Jul 14

Woodgnome says...

Doberman1 wrote:
I recently had to pursue a council tax query for my elderly mother (a very straight forward one I may add). It was swapped around between 5 different people all dealing with individual aspects of council tax. 5 people to deal with 1 subject matter, please don't tell me that public service admin is not still woefully bloated. They are still miles away from private sector levels of efficiency.
I blame the Chief Executive and Senior managers. The culture of the organisation is all wrong if that happens. Staff are too interested in what goes on in their own little desk instead of sorting out the problem in one stop.
[quote][p][bold]Doberman1[/bold] wrote: I recently had to pursue a council tax query for my elderly mother (a very straight forward one I may add). It was swapped around between 5 different people all dealing with individual aspects of council tax. 5 people to deal with 1 subject matter, please don't tell me that public service admin is not still woefully bloated. They are still miles away from private sector levels of efficiency.[/p][/quote]I blame the Chief Executive and Senior managers. The culture of the organisation is all wrong if that happens. Staff are too interested in what goes on in their own little desk instead of sorting out the problem in one stop. Woodgnome
  • Score: 5

8:54am Thu 31 Jul 14

Mervyn James says...

Votefornoneoftheabov
e
wrote:
BassalegCountyFan wrote:
And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'...

While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.
Now I am no Tory voter, but to indicate that it's the Coalition's fault is a bit rich ?

The Conservatives handed over a budget surplus to Messrs Blair and Brown back in 1997, then the two of them go on a massive spending spree and even sell off our gold reserves for a knockdown price and have a great time spending all the UK taxpayers money.

The Coalition comes back into power in 2010, after 13 years of Labour spending and nothing is left, what were they supposed to do, keep on borrowing?

My parents taught my an easy value as a child, "if you can't pay the money back don't borrow it!"

I am not happy with all the cuts that are taking place, not just in Wales but the UK as a whole, what I realise is that the mess we are in was caused a long time ago by the previous Government, have you already forgotten what Former Labour Treasury chief secretary Liam Byrne said to David Laws in 2010 when he handed over the keys to the UK Treasury.

'I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left."

Let's move forward to today, something had to be done, some say that the Government has cut too much too soon, some say not. I don't no the answer to this question.

Whatever the rights and wrongs of this debate, there is a simple hard cold fact to all of it, We have to pay back what we borrowed, we don't like it, but we have to!

I notice Councillor Truman has said the following in the article above,

"We are placed in this position because of continuing UK government austerity measures and the knock-on effect for Welsh Government which provides the largest share of local government funding.”

I ask you this, " How long has Ray Truman been a councillor? How long has Ray Truman worked alongside Bob Bright? Both now Leader (Yet again) and Deputy Leader respectively.

They have had an armchair ride as councillors over the past 20+ years whilst they have been cashing in their council allowances, the pressure is now firmly on them and what do they say,

It's not our fault, It's not the party we represents fault, and the best one of all, they are going to ask Newport residents and council staff what ideas they have to make savings.

Get this though, they are still raking in a cool £ 70-80 thousand combined council allowance, the austerity measures must be placing massive pressures on both of their lives!
The cuts don't seem to be being applied in London, maybe because the swinging cuts to Wales as punishment for having labour, are being spent there. Soon you will need £72,000 deposit to buy a house, all fueled by the London bubble.

The recent loan to finish the Friars Walk project is a drain of course,and despite recent handouts to bolster Newport's city centre, we appear to be hemorrhaging money via Newport Council still. So we close down community centres, stop picking up the rubbish, fail to keep pavements clear or tidy, close old people's homes, tax people to buggery, etc yet, we still need more cuts ?

Last year they said we had already reached the limit whereby the state can expect to get more tax from the public. Having taken the food from our, and our children's mouths, where else can we get money to pay for what is in effect, no service provision ? Road tax isn't spent on roads as it is. Nor is fuel tax. yet banks are raking it in, and Lloyds paid a fine of £200m without blinking after fixing interest rates. Utility companies, who warn yet again because we had good weather, this means they need to charge us even more when it gets colder. So we are penalised for seeing sunshine.
[quote][p][bold]Votefornoneoftheabov e[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'... While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.[/p][/quote]Now I am no Tory voter, but to indicate that it's the Coalition's fault is a bit rich ? The Conservatives handed over a budget surplus to Messrs Blair and Brown back in 1997, then the two of them go on a massive spending spree and even sell off our gold reserves for a knockdown price and have a great time spending all the UK taxpayers money. The Coalition comes back into power in 2010, after 13 years of Labour spending and nothing is left, what were they supposed to do, keep on borrowing? My parents taught my an easy value as a child, "if you can't pay the money back don't borrow it!" I am not happy with all the cuts that are taking place, not just in Wales but the UK as a whole, what I realise is that the mess we are in was caused a long time ago by the previous Government, have you already forgotten what Former Labour Treasury chief secretary Liam Byrne said to David Laws in 2010 when he handed over the keys to the UK Treasury. 'I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left." Let's move forward to today, something had to be done, some say that the Government has cut too much too soon, some say not. I don't no the answer to this question. Whatever the rights and wrongs of this debate, there is a simple hard cold fact to all of it, We have to pay back what we borrowed, we don't like it, but we have to! I notice Councillor Truman has said the following in the article above, "We are placed in this position because of continuing UK government austerity measures and the knock-on effect for Welsh Government which provides the largest share of local government funding.” I ask you this, " How long has Ray Truman been a councillor? How long has Ray Truman worked alongside Bob Bright? Both now Leader (Yet again) and Deputy Leader respectively. They have had an armchair ride as councillors over the past 20+ years whilst they have been cashing in their council allowances, the pressure is now firmly on them and what do they say, It's not our fault, It's not the party we represents fault, and the best one of all, they are going to ask Newport residents and council staff what ideas they have to make savings. Get this though, they are still raking in a cool £ 70-80 thousand combined council allowance, the austerity measures must be placing massive pressures on both of their lives![/p][/quote]The cuts don't seem to be being applied in London, maybe because the swinging cuts to Wales as punishment for having labour, are being spent there. Soon you will need £72,000 deposit to buy a house, all fueled by the London bubble. The recent loan to finish the Friars Walk project is a drain of course,and despite recent handouts to bolster Newport's city centre, we appear to be hemorrhaging money via Newport Council still. So we close down community centres, stop picking up the rubbish, fail to keep pavements clear or tidy, close old people's homes, tax people to buggery, etc yet, we still need more cuts ? Last year they said we had already reached the limit whereby the state can expect to get more tax from the public. Having taken the food from our, and our children's mouths, where else can we get money to pay for what is in effect, no service provision ? Road tax isn't spent on roads as it is. Nor is fuel tax. yet banks are raking it in, and Lloyds paid a fine of £200m without blinking after fixing interest rates. Utility companies, who warn yet again because we had good weather, this means they need to charge us even more when it gets colder. So we are penalised for seeing sunshine. Mervyn James
  • Score: -4

9:09am Thu 31 Jul 14

Good Job No Kids says...

BassalegCountyFan wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
BassalegCountyFan wrote:
And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'...

While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.
Really? Didn't WAG recruit another 400 pen pushers recently? To do what? Help them wreck health and education here even more? They bought a loss making airport and then picked up the tab to keep it afloat. They announced another £1.6m for Welsh language projects only last week. It makes me laugh that Labour make a science of squandering other people's money then complain that there isn't enough.
Remind me which government:
- Short-changed the tax payer billions of pounds in a botched privatisation of the Royal Mail?
- Spent millions on a top-down reorganisation of the NHS that no one wanted, only to sack the Health Secretary after it was a flop?
- Paid millions for a Police and Crime Commisioner election that no one wanted?
-Spent millions on the 'free schools' project/debacle that no one wanted, only to sack the universally disliked Education Secretary after it was a flop?
- Squandered millions of pounds of taxpayer money on Ian Duncan Smith's Universal Credit switchover?

Ah yes, that'd be those tight-walleted tories. And that's just since 2010!
**** site cheaper than two wars nobody wanted though?
[quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: And the tory government say 'we're all in this together'... While things are allegedly looking up in their south-eastern bubble the rest of the country (including here in Wales and Newport) is still taking a battering through austerity, which is being forced upon us by the UK Coalition Government - you can't blame the Welsh Government or NCC for this.[/p][/quote]Really? Didn't WAG recruit another 400 pen pushers recently? To do what? Help them wreck health and education here even more? They bought a loss making airport and then picked up the tab to keep it afloat. They announced another £1.6m for Welsh language projects only last week. It makes me laugh that Labour make a science of squandering other people's money then complain that there isn't enough.[/p][/quote]Remind me which government: - Short-changed the tax payer billions of pounds in a botched privatisation of the Royal Mail? - Spent millions on a top-down reorganisation of the NHS that no one wanted, only to sack the Health Secretary after it was a flop? - Paid millions for a Police and Crime Commisioner election that no one wanted? -Spent millions on the 'free schools' project/debacle that no one wanted, only to sack the universally disliked Education Secretary after it was a flop? - Squandered millions of pounds of taxpayer money on Ian Duncan Smith's Universal Credit switchover? Ah yes, that'd be those tight-walleted tories. And that's just since 2010![/p][/quote]**** site cheaper than two wars nobody wanted though? Good Job No Kids
  • Score: -12

10:11am Thu 31 Jul 14

Dai Rear says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
At the same time Cameron gives away several million here, several million there as 'aid' to foreign countries every day. Okay, let's help people in other countries when they really need it but let's first check that it goes to those who really need it and not into some space programme designed purely to boost a failing regime's own prestige.
Indeed. It apparently makes him feel "good" to slash out money borrowed and repayable by my grandchildren. Wouldn't be so bad if the foreign dictators used my grandchildren's cash to buy Nissans and Hondas made here, but they prefer Ms Merkel's Beemers and Mercs
Meanwhile" The complaints were made by Farooq Dastgir, 53, who ran an IT centre dealing with data from Torfaen Council, Monmouthshire Council and Gwent Police before he was suspended on full pay in 2011" Yes that's Torfaen, but "full pay" is 75K, apparently so maybe not a lot of "austerity" around yet?
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: At the same time Cameron gives away several million here, several million there as 'aid' to foreign countries every day. Okay, let's help people in other countries when they really need it but let's first check that it goes to those who really need it and not into some space programme designed purely to boost a failing regime's own prestige.[/p][/quote]Indeed. It apparently makes him feel "good" to slash out money borrowed and repayable by my grandchildren. Wouldn't be so bad if the foreign dictators used my grandchildren's cash to buy Nissans and Hondas made here, but they prefer Ms Merkel's Beemers and Mercs Meanwhile" The complaints were made by Farooq Dastgir, 53, who ran an IT centre dealing with data from Torfaen Council, Monmouthshire Council and Gwent Police before he was suspended on full pay in 2011" Yes that's Torfaen, but "full pay" is 75K, apparently so maybe not a lot of "austerity" around yet? Dai Rear
  • Score: -9

4:14pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Bobevans says...

Independentvoter wrote:
All governments have been borrowing billions fro years and putting our country in debt - because of their borrowing (not ours) we have to pay - its the same with NCC we have voted in people who have not got a clue how to budget millions of pounds and never had the experience - we need to find some good business people who can turn this mess around as councillors are not capable !
These councillors for decades expected ever more money to spend and waste. Now that the money supply has dried up they are clueless as to how to make cuts

of that £13M I would expect them to save at less £9M for efficiency improvements with the other £4 Million from service cuts and increased charges
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: All governments have been borrowing billions fro years and putting our country in debt - because of their borrowing (not ours) we have to pay - its the same with NCC we have voted in people who have not got a clue how to budget millions of pounds and never had the experience - we need to find some good business people who can turn this mess around as councillors are not capable ![/p][/quote]These councillors for decades expected ever more money to spend and waste. Now that the money supply has dried up they are clueless as to how to make cuts of that £13M I would expect them to save at less £9M for efficiency improvements with the other £4 Million from service cuts and increased charges Bobevans
  • Score: -9

4:16pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Bobevans says...

How much is that £90M high risk loan costing the Council tax payers?
How much is that £90M high risk loan costing the Council tax payers? Bobevans
  • Score: -5

9:48am Fri 1 Aug 14

Mervyn James says...

Bobevans wrote:
How much is that £90M high risk loan costing the Council tax payers?
I expect we will find out pretty soon !
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: How much is that £90M high risk loan costing the Council tax payers?[/p][/quote]I expect we will find out pretty soon ! Mervyn James
  • Score: 0

2:56pm Fri 1 Aug 14

welshmen says...

And how much is the Travellers camps going to cost, £5-10 Million, how long to recoup that from rent or charges....best advice Don't build one, let them all go to Cardiff where all the WAG's money is spent, perhaps they can get a free flight to Anglesey....
And how much is the Travellers camps going to cost, £5-10 Million, how long to recoup that from rent or charges....best advice Don't build one, let them all go to Cardiff where all the WAG's money is spent, perhaps they can get a free flight to Anglesey.... welshmen
  • Score: -7

9:27am Sat 2 Aug 14

JJ1980 says...

I can save £13m for them in 5 minutes:

1. Ban Facebook in work hours, productivity goes up
2. Sack half the work force

Also, sacking workers who have more than 5 sick days a year is a good start
I can save £13m for them in 5 minutes: 1. Ban Facebook in work hours, productivity goes up 2. Sack half the work force Also, sacking workers who have more than 5 sick days a year is a good start JJ1980
  • Score: -5

10:15am Sat 2 Aug 14

Mervyn James says...

JJ1980 wrote:
I can save £13m for them in 5 minutes:

1. Ban Facebook in work hours, productivity goes up
2. Sack half the work force

Also, sacking workers who have more than 5 sick days a year is a good start
One wonders how much social media is costing us all in wasted time and energy. It's made irritating idiots out of most users.... In my day, you didn't take phones into work with you, or used a computer to update your status on social medias, the software to prevent this happening is readily available, so why don't the council use it ? I recall with some astonishment a recent job interview being constantly interrupted by an female applicant stopping the interview no less than 4 times to send texts on her mobile, and then getting angry when asked to turn it off, needless to say she didn't get the job..
[quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: I can save £13m for them in 5 minutes: 1. Ban Facebook in work hours, productivity goes up 2. Sack half the work force Also, sacking workers who have more than 5 sick days a year is a good start[/p][/quote]One wonders how much social media is costing us all in wasted time and energy. It's made irritating idiots out of most users.... In my day, you didn't take phones into work with you, or used a computer to update your status on social medias, the software to prevent this happening is readily available, so why don't the council use it ? I recall with some astonishment a recent job interview being constantly interrupted by an female applicant stopping the interview no less than 4 times to send texts on her mobile, and then getting angry when asked to turn it off, needless to say she didn't get the job.. Mervyn James
  • Score: -6

1:59pm Sat 2 Aug 14

PrivateTom10000001 says...

JJ1980 wrote:
I can save £13m for them in 5 minutes:

1. Ban Facebook in work hours, productivity goes up
2. Sack half the work force

Also, sacking workers who have more than 5 sick days a year is a good start
Wow your a god darn genius!!
You will be Prime Minister one day boy.
[quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: I can save £13m for them in 5 minutes: 1. Ban Facebook in work hours, productivity goes up 2. Sack half the work force Also, sacking workers who have more than 5 sick days a year is a good start[/p][/quote]Wow your a god darn genius!! You will be Prime Minister one day boy. PrivateTom10000001
  • Score: 3

3:45pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Llanmartingargoyle says...

Another 5 minuet thought.
Put shackles on their feet and bells so we know when they have wondered from their duties.
We could also limit them to one toilet visit a day (lasting no more than 3mins)
We could reasonably expect them to claim very little mileage allowance and no wear and tear for using their own vehicles for work duties, that’s right just like we hammer carers, that should do it.
We could stop paying them in real money and give them tokens that can only be spent in M&S or Waitrose that ill stop em using Aldis.
The more we do to curb their workplace representation and keep em on low pay the better because it will hit Union funding and that will help us Tories stay in power “you know it makes sense”
We should also continue to feed them lies and turn them against one another its already having tremendous results, the the bedroom tax lie was a cracker th rich are getting richer and once we have beaten the poor down for good then we can throw them a few scraps. Everybody knows if you look after the rich and it will all trickle down in the end.

Check out how Trickle down economics can help you:

http://youtu.be/3U1D
_T-tSTw
Another 5 minuet thought. Put shackles on their feet and bells so we know when they have wondered from their duties. We could also limit them to one toilet visit a day (lasting no more than 3mins) We could reasonably expect them to claim very little mileage allowance and no wear and tear for using their own vehicles for work duties, that’s right just like we hammer carers, that should do it. We could stop paying them in real money and give them tokens that can only be spent in M&S or Waitrose that ill stop em using Aldis. The more we do to curb their workplace representation and keep em on low pay the better because it will hit Union funding and that will help us Tories stay in power “you know it makes sense” We should also continue to feed them lies and turn them against one another its already having tremendous results, the the bedroom tax lie was a cracker th rich are getting richer and once we have beaten the poor down for good then we can throw them a few scraps. Everybody knows if you look after the rich and it will all trickle down in the end. Check out how Trickle down economics can help you: http://youtu.be/3U1D _T-tSTw Llanmartingargoyle
  • Score: 9

3:57pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

Llanmartingargoyle wrote:
Another 5 minuet thought.
Put shackles on their feet and bells so we know when they have wondered from their duties.
We could also limit them to one toilet visit a day (lasting no more than 3mins)
We could reasonably expect them to claim very little mileage allowance and no wear and tear for using their own vehicles for work duties, that’s right just like we hammer carers, that should do it.
We could stop paying them in real money and give them tokens that can only be spent in M&S or Waitrose that ill stop em using Aldis.
The more we do to curb their workplace representation and keep em on low pay the better because it will hit Union funding and that will help us Tories stay in power “you know it makes sense”
We should also continue to feed them lies and turn them against one another its already having tremendous results, the the bedroom tax lie was a cracker th rich are getting richer and once we have beaten the poor down for good then we can throw them a few scraps. Everybody knows if you look after the rich and it will all trickle down in the end.

Check out how Trickle down economics can help you:

http://youtu.be/3U1D

_T-tSTw
Well the public sector rich are getting extremely rich; their clerks (errh "managers" and "directors") doubled their incomes in real terms since 97 and none of them votes Conservative, so maybe you're irrigating the wrong tree my little poodle. Plus if you can't tell a tax from a handout it is extremely likely that you don't have the heightened self esteem I (apparently) have through paying 40% tax on a very modest income.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartingargoyle[/bold] wrote: Another 5 minuet thought. Put shackles on their feet and bells so we know when they have wondered from their duties. We could also limit them to one toilet visit a day (lasting no more than 3mins) We could reasonably expect them to claim very little mileage allowance and no wear and tear for using their own vehicles for work duties, that’s right just like we hammer carers, that should do it. We could stop paying them in real money and give them tokens that can only be spent in M&S or Waitrose that ill stop em using Aldis. The more we do to curb their workplace representation and keep em on low pay the better because it will hit Union funding and that will help us Tories stay in power “you know it makes sense” We should also continue to feed them lies and turn them against one another its already having tremendous results, the the bedroom tax lie was a cracker th rich are getting richer and once we have beaten the poor down for good then we can throw them a few scraps. Everybody knows if you look after the rich and it will all trickle down in the end. Check out how Trickle down economics can help you: http://youtu.be/3U1D _T-tSTw[/p][/quote]Well the public sector rich are getting extremely rich; their clerks (errh "managers" and "directors") doubled their incomes in real terms since 97 and none of them votes Conservative, so maybe you're irrigating the wrong tree my little poodle. Plus if you can't tell a tax from a handout it is extremely likely that you don't have the heightened self esteem I (apparently) have through paying 40% tax on a very modest income. Dai Rear
  • Score: -18

7:47pm Sat 2 Aug 14

Paxman's Army says...

I don't know why so many are complaining about. According to many Newport people there's plenty of money about. . .certainly enough to build a £1 billion Newport bypass. They're eager to spend THAT money.
I don't know why so many are complaining about. According to many Newport people there's plenty of money about. . .certainly enough to build a £1 billion Newport bypass. They're eager to spend THAT money. Paxman's Army
  • Score: 1

12:13am Sun 3 Aug 14

PrivateTom10000001 says...

Dai Rear wrote:
Llanmartingargoyle wrote:
Another 5 minuet thought.
Put shackles on their feet and bells so we know when they have wondered from their duties.
We could also limit them to one toilet visit a day (lasting no more than 3mins)
We could reasonably expect them to claim very little mileage allowance and no wear and tear for using their own vehicles for work duties, that’s right just like we hammer carers, that should do it.
We could stop paying them in real money and give them tokens that can only be spent in M&S or Waitrose that ill stop em using Aldis.
The more we do to curb their workplace representation and keep em on low pay the better because it will hit Union funding and that will help us Tories stay in power “you know it makes sense”
We should also continue to feed them lies and turn them against one another its already having tremendous results, the the bedroom tax lie was a cracker th rich are getting richer and once we have beaten the poor down for good then we can throw them a few scraps. Everybody knows if you look after the rich and it will all trickle down in the end.

Check out how Trickle down economics can help you:

http://youtu.be/3U1D


_T-tSTw
Well the public sector rich are getting extremely rich; their clerks (errh "managers" and "directors") doubled their incomes in real terms since 97 and none of them votes Conservative, so maybe you're irrigating the wrong tree my little poodle. Plus if you can't tell a tax from a handout it is extremely likely that you don't have the heightened self esteem I (apparently) have through paying 40% tax on a very modest income.
Wow another your a god darn genius!!
Lots of em on here now, country will soon be sorted.
Forward he cried from the rear (Diarrhea) and the front rank died... Generals sat on the lines on the map and it moved from side to side, then aliens masquerading as Welshmen spurted out bull.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartingargoyle[/bold] wrote: Another 5 minuet thought. Put shackles on their feet and bells so we know when they have wondered from their duties. We could also limit them to one toilet visit a day (lasting no more than 3mins) We could reasonably expect them to claim very little mileage allowance and no wear and tear for using their own vehicles for work duties, that’s right just like we hammer carers, that should do it. We could stop paying them in real money and give them tokens that can only be spent in M&S or Waitrose that ill stop em using Aldis. The more we do to curb their workplace representation and keep em on low pay the better because it will hit Union funding and that will help us Tories stay in power “you know it makes sense” We should also continue to feed them lies and turn them against one another its already having tremendous results, the the bedroom tax lie was a cracker th rich are getting richer and once we have beaten the poor down for good then we can throw them a few scraps. Everybody knows if you look after the rich and it will all trickle down in the end. Check out how Trickle down economics can help you: http://youtu.be/3U1D _T-tSTw[/p][/quote]Well the public sector rich are getting extremely rich; their clerks (errh "managers" and "directors") doubled their incomes in real terms since 97 and none of them votes Conservative, so maybe you're irrigating the wrong tree my little poodle. Plus if you can't tell a tax from a handout it is extremely likely that you don't have the heightened self esteem I (apparently) have through paying 40% tax on a very modest income.[/p][/quote]Wow another your a god darn genius!! Lots of em on here now, country will soon be sorted. Forward he cried from the rear (Diarrhea) and the front rank died... Generals sat on the lines on the map and it moved from side to side, then aliens masquerading as Welshmen spurted out bull. PrivateTom10000001
  • Score: 11

7:32am Sun 3 Aug 14

Bobevans says...

Local councils can be run a lot more efficiently and that's beyond any doubt just look at the vast differences in council tax.

Will the councils and politicians willingly make the changes needed? The answer in my view is no. The first step is to considerably reduce the number of local councils. Five is more than enough for Wales. E also need to dramatically cut the number of local councillors. How many are needed would depend on how local government was reformed

We should be able to remove a local councillor for whatever reason if enough people call for it. I would suggest that if more people call for a councillor to go than voted for him. We should have binding referendums on major local issues. One such thing that I think would fall into that category is the £90M loan taken out by Newport council another would be increases in Councillors allowances with anything over the official inflation rate requiring the approval of the electorate

A borrowing cap should be set for local councils. Local councils should be charged with Reducing council spending by at least 1% year on year. If this target is not achieved No bonuses are payable
Local councils can be run a lot more efficiently and that's beyond any doubt just look at the vast differences in council tax. Will the councils and politicians willingly make the changes needed? The answer in my view is no. The first step is to considerably reduce the number of local councils. Five is more than enough for Wales. E also need to dramatically cut the number of local councillors. How many are needed would depend on how local government was reformed We should be able to remove a local councillor for whatever reason if enough people call for it. I would suggest that if more people call for a councillor to go than voted for him. We should have binding referendums on major local issues. One such thing that I think would fall into that category is the £90M loan taken out by Newport council another would be increases in Councillors allowances with anything over the official inflation rate requiring the approval of the electorate A borrowing cap should be set for local councils. Local councils should be charged with Reducing council spending by at least 1% year on year. If this target is not achieved No bonuses are payable Bobevans
  • Score: -7

8:50am Sun 3 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

PrivateTom10000001 wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
Llanmartingargoyle wrote:
Another 5 minuet thought.
Put shackles on their feet and bells so we know when they have wondered from their duties.
We could also limit them to one toilet visit a day (lasting no more than 3mins)
We could reasonably expect them to claim very little mileage allowance and no wear and tear for using their own vehicles for work duties, that’s right just like we hammer carers, that should do it.
We could stop paying them in real money and give them tokens that can only be spent in M&S or Waitrose that ill stop em using Aldis.
The more we do to curb their workplace representation and keep em on low pay the better because it will hit Union funding and that will help us Tories stay in power “you know it makes sense”
We should also continue to feed them lies and turn them against one another its already having tremendous results, the the bedroom tax lie was a cracker th rich are getting richer and once we have beaten the poor down for good then we can throw them a few scraps. Everybody knows if you look after the rich and it will all trickle down in the end.

Check out how Trickle down economics can help you:

http://youtu.be/3U1D



_T-tSTw
Well the public sector rich are getting extremely rich; their clerks (errh "managers" and "directors") doubled their incomes in real terms since 97 and none of them votes Conservative, so maybe you're irrigating the wrong tree my little poodle. Plus if you can't tell a tax from a handout it is extremely likely that you don't have the heightened self esteem I (apparently) have through paying 40% tax on a very modest income.
Wow another your a god darn genius!!
Lots of em on here now, country will soon be sorted.
Forward he cried from the rear (Diarrhea) and the front rank died... Generals sat on the lines on the map and it moved from side to side, then aliens masquerading as Welshmen spurted out bull.
Both blind (you haven't noticed the terrifying growth in the highly paid and pointless echelons of "management" in the public sector over the last 30 years) and abusive. Poor dab!
[quote][p][bold]PrivateTom10000001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartingargoyle[/bold] wrote: Another 5 minuet thought. Put shackles on their feet and bells so we know when they have wondered from their duties. We could also limit them to one toilet visit a day (lasting no more than 3mins) We could reasonably expect them to claim very little mileage allowance and no wear and tear for using their own vehicles for work duties, that’s right just like we hammer carers, that should do it. We could stop paying them in real money and give them tokens that can only be spent in M&S or Waitrose that ill stop em using Aldis. The more we do to curb their workplace representation and keep em on low pay the better because it will hit Union funding and that will help us Tories stay in power “you know it makes sense” We should also continue to feed them lies and turn them against one another its already having tremendous results, the the bedroom tax lie was a cracker th rich are getting richer and once we have beaten the poor down for good then we can throw them a few scraps. Everybody knows if you look after the rich and it will all trickle down in the end. Check out how Trickle down economics can help you: http://youtu.be/3U1D _T-tSTw[/p][/quote]Well the public sector rich are getting extremely rich; their clerks (errh "managers" and "directors") doubled their incomes in real terms since 97 and none of them votes Conservative, so maybe you're irrigating the wrong tree my little poodle. Plus if you can't tell a tax from a handout it is extremely likely that you don't have the heightened self esteem I (apparently) have through paying 40% tax on a very modest income.[/p][/quote]Wow another your a god darn genius!! Lots of em on here now, country will soon be sorted. Forward he cried from the rear (Diarrhea) and the front rank died... Generals sat on the lines on the map and it moved from side to side, then aliens masquerading as Welshmen spurted out bull.[/p][/quote]Both blind (you haven't noticed the terrifying growth in the highly paid and pointless echelons of "management" in the public sector over the last 30 years) and abusive. Poor dab! Dai Rear
  • Score: -11

11:20am Sun 3 Aug 14

JJ1980 says...

The biggest waste of money in this country is inefficiency. Council workers don't know what hard work is.


I'll help give you a clue of you like: it doesn't involve spending 3 hours a day on Facebook and online shopping and it also doesn't involve having 20 sick days a year.
The biggest waste of money in this country is inefficiency. Council workers don't know what hard work is. I'll help give you a clue of you like: it doesn't involve spending 3 hours a day on Facebook and online shopping and it also doesn't involve having 20 sick days a year. JJ1980
  • Score: -14

11:53am Sun 3 Aug 14

Danfoss says...

The problem with these councils are that the councillors do not have the experience or the qualifications to deal with such large budgets. You don't see private sector companies run like this. ie over staffing, large expense accounts, low productivity.
In the private sector, if a manager/director is not performing or has made a **** up on an overspend, they are disciplined.
In the public sector all they get is a slap on the wrist and maybe they won't get voted back in.
The problem with these councils are that the councillors do not have the experience or the qualifications to deal with such large budgets. You don't see private sector companies run like this. ie over staffing, large expense accounts, low productivity. In the private sector, if a manager/director is not performing or has made a **** up on an overspend, they are disciplined. In the public sector all they get is a slap on the wrist and maybe they won't get voted back in. Danfoss
  • Score: -1

12:20pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Mervyn James says...

JJ1980 wrote:
The biggest waste of money in this country is inefficiency. Council workers don't know what hard work is.


I'll help give you a clue of you like: it doesn't involve spending 3 hours a day on Facebook and online shopping and it also doesn't involve having 20 sick days a year.
That reminds me when I was out of work one time,and I was given a temp job in the summer. The job entailed doing all the dirty jobs the council workers didn't want to touch, e.g. cleaning up toxic waste, dumped rubbish, clearing vermin, waste land etc... my wage was one third of what they got for doing a lot more hard work, including barrow-loading 80 tons of earth on my own alongside the sirhowy river, which was a complete waste of time since as as soon as it rained was all washed away, so wasteful as well, the council workmen were cutting grass a few yards away and sat watching us laughing. So that's where your local taxes go.....
[quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: The biggest waste of money in this country is inefficiency. Council workers don't know what hard work is. I'll help give you a clue of you like: it doesn't involve spending 3 hours a day on Facebook and online shopping and it also doesn't involve having 20 sick days a year.[/p][/quote]That reminds me when I was out of work one time,and I was given a temp job in the summer. The job entailed doing all the dirty jobs the council workers didn't want to touch, e.g. cleaning up toxic waste, dumped rubbish, clearing vermin, waste land etc... my wage was one third of what they got for doing a lot more hard work, including barrow-loading 80 tons of earth on my own alongside the sirhowy river, which was a complete waste of time since as as soon as it rained was all washed away, so wasteful as well, the council workmen were cutting grass a few yards away and sat watching us laughing. So that's where your local taxes go..... Mervyn James
  • Score: -4

3:02pm Sun 3 Aug 14

letsgobarbie says...

JJ1980 wrote:
The biggest waste of money in this country is inefficiency. Council workers don't know what hard work is.


I'll help give you a clue of you like: it doesn't involve spending 3 hours a day on Facebook and online shopping and it also doesn't involve having 20 sick days a year.
And your the person to sort them out yeah......pmsl

I know many council workers that would work you into a stuper, your the kind of person that moans and moans after something been taken away and its not like it used to be...get a life you joker.
[quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: The biggest waste of money in this country is inefficiency. Council workers don't know what hard work is. I'll help give you a clue of you like: it doesn't involve spending 3 hours a day on Facebook and online shopping and it also doesn't involve having 20 sick days a year.[/p][/quote]And your the person to sort them out yeah......pmsl I know many council workers that would work you into a stuper, your the kind of person that moans and moans after something been taken away and its not like it used to be...get a life you joker. letsgobarbie
  • Score: 6

3:34pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

"I know many council workers that would work you into a stuper"
I think you mean stupor. And that is the great thing about a council job. Pass the time till 4 and then work really hard at a private job for cash in hand. Who wouldn't work for the Council/
"I know many council workers that would work you into a stuper" I think you mean stupor. And that is the great thing about a council job. Pass the time till 4 and then work really hard at a private job for cash in hand. Who wouldn't work for the Council/ Dai Rear
  • Score: -11

5:32pm Sun 3 Aug 14

letsgobarbie says...

Dai Rear wrote:
"I know many council workers that would work you into a stuper"
I think you mean stupor. And that is the great thing about a council job. Pass the time till 4 and then work really hard at a private job for cash in hand. Who wouldn't work for the Council/
Just given the hamster a coffee we don't want him falling asleep at the wheel.
Hard Working People..... Hard Work will Set You Free..... Arbeit macht frei ... as seen on the gates of Auschwitz.

I’m pmsl laughing at you Dai, and judging by the thumbs down and the hilarious comments ,so is everyone else. You have so obviously failed in life and want to knock everyone who you see as winners or a threat to your simplistic envious views...you poor loser.

I Studied **** Taking and Tory Satire at Oxford, gaining a first class honours degree. I am so lucky to have prime examples of blithering idiots like you Dai to characterise for my upcoming BBC comedy, do look out for it next year but don’t expect to recognise yourself,your sort never do.

Talk about cash in hand, you should check out the backhanders big business officials are stuffing in their arse pockets.


Are you an arrogant pompous liar, totally out of touch with everyone? Yes? Then why not join the Tory Party....disgruntled Tory? No problem follow Dai to Ukip bongo bongo land.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "I know many council workers that would work you into a stuper" I think you mean stupor. And that is the great thing about a council job. Pass the time till 4 and then work really hard at a private job for cash in hand. Who wouldn't work for the Council/[/p][/quote]Just given the hamster a coffee we don't want him falling asleep at the wheel. Hard Working People..... Hard Work will Set You Free..... Arbeit macht frei ... as seen on the gates of Auschwitz. I’m pmsl laughing at you Dai, and judging by the thumbs down and the hilarious comments ,so is everyone else. You have so obviously failed in life and want to knock everyone who you see as winners or a threat to your simplistic envious views...you poor loser. I Studied **** Taking and Tory Satire at Oxford, gaining a first class honours degree. I am so lucky to have prime examples of blithering idiots like you Dai to characterise for my upcoming BBC comedy, do look out for it next year but don’t expect to recognise yourself,your sort never do. Talk about cash in hand, you should check out the backhanders big business officials are stuffing in their arse pockets. Are you an arrogant pompous liar, totally out of touch with everyone? Yes? Then why not join the Tory Party....disgruntled Tory? No problem follow Dai to Ukip bongo bongo land. letsgobarbie
  • Score: 12

5:39pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

You lefties must have some kind of a case. Why always the puerile ranting? Don't feel inferior, get some counselling.
You lefties must have some kind of a case. Why always the puerile ranting? Don't feel inferior, get some counselling. Dai Rear
  • Score: -9

6:21pm Sun 3 Aug 14

JJ1980 says...

Letsgobarbie, I'm assuming by your aggressive and completely incorrect response that you work for the council? The truth hurts I'm afraid. I worked for Newport Council about 10 years ago and it was a complete joke, completely inefficient, totally inept and rotten at its core. I worked in a team where on average 2 out of 5 would be sick once a week. The other 2 loved to remind people how "that isn't their job". It a disgrace and people like you are the reason this country is doomed to failure. The UK is a laughing stock, we're too mollycoddled and soft. The UK public service is rotting and apathy and laziness is the cause.
Letsgobarbie, I'm assuming by your aggressive and completely incorrect response that you work for the council? The truth hurts I'm afraid. I worked for Newport Council about 10 years ago and it was a complete joke, completely inefficient, totally inept and rotten at its core. I worked in a team where on average 2 out of 5 would be sick once a week. The other 2 loved to remind people how "that isn't their job". It a disgrace and people like you are the reason this country is doomed to failure. The UK is a laughing stock, we're too mollycoddled and soft. The UK public service is rotting and apathy and laziness is the cause. JJ1980
  • Score: -9

7:00pm Sun 3 Aug 14

displayed says...

Does this include the money they borrowed to give to the developers to build the new shopping centre!

£90m I think it was..........

Honestly u couldnt make it up!
Does this include the money they borrowed to give to the developers to build the new shopping centre! £90m I think it was.......... Honestly u couldnt make it up! displayed
  • Score: -1

7:36pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

JJ1980 wrote:
Letsgobarbie, I'm assuming by your aggressive and completely incorrect response that you work for the council? The truth hurts I'm afraid. I worked for Newport Council about 10 years ago and it was a complete joke, completely inefficient, totally inept and rotten at its core. I worked in a team where on average 2 out of 5 would be sick once a week. The other 2 loved to remind people how "that isn't their job". It a disgrace and people like you are the reason this country is doomed to failure. The UK is a laughing stock, we're too mollycoddled and soft. The UK public service is rotting and apathy and laziness is the cause.
I hadn't thought about this one being on the pay roll. "Work" is pushing it a bit, isn't it? Do you suppose he has contact with the public? Scary.
[quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: Letsgobarbie, I'm assuming by your aggressive and completely incorrect response that you work for the council? The truth hurts I'm afraid. I worked for Newport Council about 10 years ago and it was a complete joke, completely inefficient, totally inept and rotten at its core. I worked in a team where on average 2 out of 5 would be sick once a week. The other 2 loved to remind people how "that isn't their job". It a disgrace and people like you are the reason this country is doomed to failure. The UK is a laughing stock, we're too mollycoddled and soft. The UK public service is rotting and apathy and laziness is the cause.[/p][/quote]I hadn't thought about this one being on the pay roll. "Work" is pushing it a bit, isn't it? Do you suppose he has contact with the public? Scary. Dai Rear
  • Score: -9

9:08pm Sun 3 Aug 14

letsgobarbie says...

Two blithering idiots its my lucky day, JJ1980 – Diarrhea
Priceless absolutely priceless.
And to think I was told by my screenwriter advisor’s to take observational notes at golf clubs!

Word for today is 'boshilist' impress your friends down the pub, with this unusual piece of Tory vernacular.
Two blithering idiots its my lucky day, JJ1980 – Diarrhea Priceless absolutely priceless. And to think I was told by my screenwriter advisor’s to take observational notes at golf clubs! Word for today is 'boshilist' impress your friends down the pub, with this unusual piece of Tory vernacular. letsgobarbie
  • Score: 16

1:46pm Mon 4 Aug 14

welshmen says...

Lot of Red Rosetters and pig haters on here, all got short memories, Labour left the Treasury Bankrupt, 10 Million more mouths to feed and house, never mind the free NHS, Schools for all comers, no wonder Wales is like a third World Country with Labour in charge, our Forces two wars hundreds died, thousands injured, and was that sacrifice worth the British dead NO, and the sadist thing is, all you Loony War, Immigrant Loving Labour voters will fall for the same crap your fed year in year out, like a bunch of "Grommets" oh sorry Millibandies, what a leader he is NOT, the Labour Parties Hero Trotsky would be so proud of him....
Lot of Red Rosetters and pig haters on here, all got short memories, Labour left the Treasury Bankrupt, 10 Million more mouths to feed and house, never mind the free NHS, Schools for all comers, no wonder Wales is like a third World Country with Labour in charge, our Forces two wars hundreds died, thousands injured, and was that sacrifice worth the British dead NO, and the sadist thing is, all you Loony War, Immigrant Loving Labour voters will fall for the same crap your fed year in year out, like a bunch of "Grommets" oh sorry Millibandies, what a leader he is NOT, the Labour Parties Hero Trotsky would be so proud of him.... welshmen
  • Score: -13

2:38pm Mon 4 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

"And to think I was told by my screenwriter advisor’s to take observational notes at golf clubs"
Screenwriter advisor's what? Gerbil, I'm guessing. The gerbil would have been more reliable if he'd advised you to seek one original thought each week. Maybe not impossible for even you. Try it.
"And to think I was told by my screenwriter advisor’s to take observational notes at golf clubs" Screenwriter advisor's what? Gerbil, I'm guessing. The gerbil would have been more reliable if he'd advised you to seek one original thought each week. Maybe not impossible for even you. Try it. Dai Rear
  • Score: -13

6:51pm Mon 4 Aug 14

topdog99 says...

letsgobarbie wrote:
Two blithering idiots its my lucky day, JJ1980 – Diarrhea
Priceless absolutely priceless.
And to think I was told by my screenwriter advisor’s to take observational notes at golf clubs!

Word for today is 'boshilist' impress your friends down the pub, with this unusual piece of Tory vernacular.
Dave Cameron
“I'm asking you the poor,disabled, children, students to take cuts, so I can give your money to the Rich, In £3bn worth of Tax Cuts” #votetory

“boshilist”
jolly good show girl, your very talented indeed.
Inequality undermines society in more than just material terms. A team of film makers are putting together a documentary based on the ideas in a book maybe your just the ticket?
Somebody with diarrhea needs a diaper, trouble is though the **** is coming out the mouth!!!

http://thespiritleve
ldocumentary.com/
[quote][p][bold]letsgobarbie[/bold] wrote: Two blithering idiots its my lucky day, JJ1980 – Diarrhea Priceless absolutely priceless. And to think I was told by my screenwriter advisor’s to take observational notes at golf clubs! Word for today is 'boshilist' impress your friends down the pub, with this unusual piece of Tory vernacular.[/p][/quote]Dave Cameron “I'm asking you the poor,disabled, children, students to take cuts, so I can give your money to the Rich, In £3bn worth of Tax Cuts” #votetory “boshilist” jolly good show girl, your very talented indeed. Inequality undermines society in more than just material terms. A team of film makers are putting together a documentary based on the ideas in a book maybe your just the ticket? Somebody with diarrhea needs a diaper, trouble is though the **** is coming out the mouth!!! http://thespiritleve ldocumentary.com/ topdog99
  • Score: 13

8:27am Tue 5 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

topdog99 wrote:
letsgobarbie wrote:
Two blithering idiots its my lucky day, JJ1980 – Diarrhea
Priceless absolutely priceless.
And to think I was told by my screenwriter advisor’s to take observational notes at golf clubs!

Word for today is 'boshilist' impress your friends down the pub, with this unusual piece of Tory vernacular.
Dave Cameron
“I'm asking you the poor,disabled, children, students to take cuts, so I can give your money to the Rich, In £3bn worth of Tax Cuts” #votetory

“boshilist”
jolly good show girl, your very talented indeed.
Inequality undermines society in more than just material terms. A team of film makers are putting together a documentary based on the ideas in a book maybe your just the ticket?
Somebody with diarrhea needs a diaper, trouble is though the **** is coming out the mouth!!!

http://thespiritleve

ldocumentary.com/
"The rich" pay most of the taxes, as you know. But hey, why let the truth get in the way of a good old last millennium Trotskyist rant?
[quote][p][bold]topdog99[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]letsgobarbie[/bold] wrote: Two blithering idiots its my lucky day, JJ1980 – Diarrhea Priceless absolutely priceless. And to think I was told by my screenwriter advisor’s to take observational notes at golf clubs! Word for today is 'boshilist' impress your friends down the pub, with this unusual piece of Tory vernacular.[/p][/quote]Dave Cameron “I'm asking you the poor,disabled, children, students to take cuts, so I can give your money to the Rich, In £3bn worth of Tax Cuts” #votetory “boshilist” jolly good show girl, your very talented indeed. Inequality undermines society in more than just material terms. A team of film makers are putting together a documentary based on the ideas in a book maybe your just the ticket? Somebody with diarrhea needs a diaper, trouble is though the **** is coming out the mouth!!! http://thespiritleve ldocumentary.com/[/p][/quote]"The rich" pay most of the taxes, as you know. But hey, why let the truth get in the way of a good old last millennium Trotskyist rant? Dai Rear
  • Score: -15

11:46am Wed 6 Aug 14

Bobevans says...

If you look at Newport Councils job vacancies you will see thy they are overspending they have job vacancies by the dozen

They need 4x Theme leaders at £50K a year each
If you look at Newport Councils job vacancies you will see thy they are overspending they have job vacancies by the dozen They need 4x Theme leaders at £50K a year each Bobevans
  • Score: -1

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