PICTURES: Cannabis factory with 4,000 plants raided in Newport - three men charged

RAID: Sergeant Emma Williams with some of the plants found.

PLANTS: A total of 4,000 plants were found

SCENE: The plants were found at Underwood Leisure Centre

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A CANNABIS factory thought to be the biggest uncovered by Gwent Police was raided at the weekend in a former Newport leisure centre.

Around 20 police officers were involved in the operation at Underwood Leisure Centre on Saturday where 4,000 cannabis plants were found.Three men were arrested on suspicion of the production of the class B drug and were each charged with the offence yesterday evening. They are due to appear in magistrates court this morning.

Leading the operation was Gwent Police Sergeant Nicola Williams, who explained that officers forced entry at the front of the building and uncovered the plants, with the majority in the sports hall and side rooms.

She said: “I believe that it is one of the largest cannabis factories uncovered in Gwent and although the value of the plants is still being worked out, we estimate that it will be over the £1.1 million mark.”

Police arrived at 10.30am after they received information of cannabis production at the site and remained on the scene overnight.

The 4,000 plants are in various degrees of maturity and Crime Scene Investigation teams were on site on Saturday to collect evidence before the plants were to be removed.

Sgt Williams added: “Gwent Police will always take a zero tolerance attitude to cannabis production and we look to the community in helping us to gather intelligence to help us to target such sites.”

Residents told the Argus that they had seen the vents of the centre being sealed to stop any produce emitting from the site.

A resident of Waltwood Road who did not want to be named, said: "You could smell it now and again but I never thought it was a cannabis factory.”

The leisure centre has been closed since last year as part of cost cutting measures by Newport Council.

James Tiffney, a resident of Acorns Street, said: “I have smelt something before but just thought it was teenagers smoking.

“It’s quite shocking."

He added: “We walk Rocky, our dog around there – there are never any lights on. It used to have one padlock on the door and recently it’s had two.”

Anyone with information should call Gwent Police on 101 or Crimestoppers 0800 555111.

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5:08pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Independentvoter says...

4,000 cannabis plants thought to be worth millions of pounds ? I don't think so and I don't even smoke the stuff.
4,000 cannabis plants thought to be worth millions of pounds ? I don't think so and I don't even smoke the stuff. Independentvoter
  • Score: 15

5:18pm Sat 9 Aug 14

KarloMarko says...

"Newport in bloom"....
"Newport in bloom".... KarloMarko
  • Score: 112

5:21pm Sat 9 Aug 14

cjwales1 says...

At least the cuts in council services are giving small businesses a chance to flourish !! :-)
At least the cuts in council services are giving small businesses a chance to flourish !! :-) cjwales1
  • Score: 93

5:36pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Independentvoter says...

I hold my hands up I had my sums wrong - 4,000 plants @ £500 per plant = £2Mil.

Wow how to (nearly) become a millionaire in weeks with some seeds and some water.
I hold my hands up I had my sums wrong - 4,000 plants @ £500 per plant = £2Mil. Wow how to (nearly) become a millionaire in weeks with some seeds and some water. Independentvoter
  • Score: 29

5:42pm Sat 9 Aug 14

KarloMarko says...

Great example of local enterprise. I think Rosemary Butler should ensure they get a grant for new premises etc. from the Assembly. Maybe Prince Charles and Camilla could open it. She looks like she enjoys some good 'erb. How else could she cope.
Great example of local enterprise. I think Rosemary Butler should ensure they get a grant for new premises etc. from the Assembly. Maybe Prince Charles and Camilla could open it. She looks like she enjoys some good 'erb. How else could she cope. KarloMarko
  • Score: 50

5:53pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

KarloMarko wrote:
"Newport in bloom"....
LOL - very good:) Karlo - you are one Brechtian satirist:)
[quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: "Newport in bloom"....[/p][/quote]LOL - very good:) Karlo - you are one Brechtian satirist:) Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 15

6:04pm Sat 9 Aug 14

smiffy76 says...

What ever next in the flower tubs?

Oops
What ever next in the flower tubs? Oops smiffy76
  • Score: 20

6:04pm Sat 9 Aug 14

KarloMarko says...

That Bertold....he used to drive a taxi in Grangetown. Always scribbling away on the back of the Echo...
That Bertold....he used to drive a taxi in Grangetown. Always scribbling away on the back of the Echo... KarloMarko
  • Score: 5

7:19pm Sat 9 Aug 14

sue -griffiths says...

I blame the council on this one they should never have closed the leisure centre in the first place... sold the building and this is what its being used for... big pat on the back!!!!!
I blame the council on this one they should never have closed the leisure centre in the first place... sold the building and this is what its being used for... big pat on the back!!!!! sue -griffiths
  • Score: 50

8:00pm Sat 9 Aug 14

varteg1 says...

......I heard the Council closed the centre as they reckoned it was going to pot,

Seems the Council was right..... for a change.
......I heard the Council closed the centre as they reckoned it was going to pot, Seems the Council was right..... for a change. varteg1
  • Score: 85

8:41pm Sat 9 Aug 14

Roger Elliot says...

Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements?
Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements? Roger Elliot
  • Score: -5

9:01pm Sat 9 Aug 14

endthelies says...

varteg1 wrote:
......I heard the Council closed the centre as they reckoned it was going to pot,

Seems the Council was right..... for a change.
ha ha that made me smile :)
[quote][p][bold]varteg1[/bold] wrote: ......I heard the Council closed the centre as they reckoned it was going to pot, Seems the Council was right..... for a change.[/p][/quote]ha ha that made me smile :) endthelies
  • Score: 13

10:11pm Sat 9 Aug 14

displayed says...

How can the authorities not know what goes on there, didnt they get a whiff of it!
As for the landlord, he needs to find another career, cos looking after ouses and lettin em out, aint his forte!
How can the authorities not know what goes on there, didnt they get a whiff of it! As for the landlord, he needs to find another career, cos looking after ouses and lettin em out, aint his forte! displayed
  • Score: -4

12:43am Sun 10 Aug 14

DGee123 says...

Suppose we should think ourselves lucky it wasn't a listed building. Some little sod would've torched it in two seconds flat, and half of Newport would've been pointing at pink elephants.
Suppose we should think ourselves lucky it wasn't a listed building. Some little sod would've torched it in two seconds flat, and half of Newport would've been pointing at pink elephants. DGee123
  • Score: 10

3:41am Sun 10 Aug 14

Dr Martin says...

Stoners are out in force I see
Stoners are out in force I see Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

3:47am Sun 10 Aug 14

MikeO4O8 says...

Independentvoter wrote:
I hold my hands up I had my sums wrong - 4,000 plants @ £500 per plant = £2Mil.

Wow how to (nearly) become a millionaire in weeks with some seeds and some water.
That's how much each plant costs? I know people That grow their own and I don't think they paid that much, I have never seen them with more than £100 before and I spend allot of time with them.
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: I hold my hands up I had my sums wrong - 4,000 plants @ £500 per plant = £2Mil. Wow how to (nearly) become a millionaire in weeks with some seeds and some water.[/p][/quote]That's how much each plant costs? I know people That grow their own and I don't think they paid that much, I have never seen them with more than £100 before and I spend allot of time with them. MikeO4O8
  • Score: -6

3:57am Sun 10 Aug 14

MikeO4O8 says...

The person who did not want to be named has gave a rough location as to where he/she lives (" we live right at the back", my guess would be almost centre to the back, possibly where the police are visible from as they said they been there all day, and somewhere at the back where the you could see the silver panelings inside.

Just thought I would mention it si you can complain to the argus for POSSIBLY giving you location away.
The person who did not want to be named has gave a rough location as to where he/she lives (" we live right at the back", my guess would be almost centre to the back, possibly where the police are visible from as they said they been there all day, and somewhere at the back where the you could see the silver panelings inside. Just thought I would mention it si you can complain to the argus for POSSIBLY giving you location away. MikeO4O8
  • Score: -13

3:59am Sun 10 Aug 14

MikeO4O8 says...

MikeO4O8 wrote:
The person who did not want to be named has gave a rough location as to where he/she lives (" we live right at the back", my guess would be almost centre to the back, possibly where the police are visible from as they said they been there all day, and somewhere at the back where the you could see the silver panelings inside.

Just thought I would mention it si you can complain to the argus for POSSIBLY giving you location away.
Sorry looking at the picture again my guess is you live behind the factory but to the right because in the picture it does not look like you could see much if you was directly behind it in the centre.
[quote][p][bold]MikeO4O8[/bold] wrote: The person who did not want to be named has gave a rough location as to where he/she lives (" we live right at the back", my guess would be almost centre to the back, possibly where the police are visible from as they said they been there all day, and somewhere at the back where the you could see the silver panelings inside. Just thought I would mention it si you can complain to the argus for POSSIBLY giving you location away.[/p][/quote]Sorry looking at the picture again my guess is you live behind the factory but to the right because in the picture it does not look like you could see much if you was directly behind it in the centre. MikeO4O8
  • Score: -9

6:51am Sun 10 Aug 14

Severn40 says...

Those extra millions could have helped Councillor Bright with his budget cuts. could the Argus please report a quote from him?
Those extra millions could have helped Councillor Bright with his budget cuts. could the Argus please report a quote from him? Severn40
  • Score: 0

9:58am Sun 10 Aug 14

corpamassive says...

Dominos on chepstow road has just taken a big order for 100 pizas,
large cokes and a box of rizlas.

Delivery to maindee plice station.


You Knows it Blad.
Dominos on chepstow road has just taken a big order for 100 pizas, large cokes and a box of rizlas. Delivery to maindee plice station. You Knows it Blad. corpamassive
  • Score: 14

9:58am Sun 10 Aug 14

corpamassive says...

Dominos on chepstow road has just taken a big order for 100 pizzas,
large cokes and a box of rizlas.

Delivery to maindee plice station.


You Knows it Blad.
Dominos on chepstow road has just taken a big order for 100 pizzas, large cokes and a box of rizlas. Delivery to maindee plice station. You Knows it Blad. corpamassive
  • Score: -4

2:28pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Limestonecowboy says...

Roger Elliot wrote:
Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements?
Really no victims start with driving under the influence, using the vunerable to cultivate the crop, damage to property, taste for harder drug leading to beating up innocent people afer drug binges, long-term phychological effects, victimless crime ... really?
[quote][p][bold]Roger Elliot[/bold] wrote: Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements?[/p][/quote]Really no victims start with driving under the influence, using the vunerable to cultivate the crop, damage to property, taste for harder drug leading to beating up innocent people afer drug binges, long-term phychological effects, victimless crime ... really? Limestonecowboy
  • Score: -8

2:52pm Sun 10 Aug 14

JimMachen says...

Limestonecowboy wrote:
Roger Elliot wrote:
Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements?
Really no victims start with driving under the influence, using the vunerable to cultivate the crop, damage to property, taste for harder drug leading to beating up innocent people afer drug binges, long-term phychological effects, victimless crime ... really?
For most of the above, substitute alcohol for cannabis and you have exactly the same results.

Will the police be doing an evidence sale? ;o)
[quote][p][bold]Limestonecowboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roger Elliot[/bold] wrote: Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements?[/p][/quote]Really no victims start with driving under the influence, using the vunerable to cultivate the crop, damage to property, taste for harder drug leading to beating up innocent people afer drug binges, long-term phychological effects, victimless crime ... really?[/p][/quote]For most of the above, substitute alcohol for cannabis and you have exactly the same results. Will the police be doing an evidence sale? ;o) JimMachen
  • Score: 21

3:18pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Ian (Mac) MacKinlay says...

Roger Elliot wrote:
Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements?
.


Yes.

When the Police did stop somebody for cycling on a pavement a month ago, the story actually made news

Just goes to show how rare that is.


.
[quote][p][bold]Roger Elliot[/bold] wrote: Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements?[/p][/quote]. Yes. When the Police did stop somebody for cycling on a pavement a month ago, the story actually made news Just goes to show how rare that is. . Ian (Mac) MacKinlay
  • Score: 6

5:32pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Magor says...

This is a problem all over the UK,plus all the criminals using the money to fund other crime.Maybe the law should be changed so that you are allowed to grow for your own use but punish sellers harder.
This is a problem all over the UK,plus all the criminals using the money to fund other crime.Maybe the law should be changed so that you are allowed to grow for your own use but punish sellers harder. Magor
  • Score: 11

6:01pm Sun 10 Aug 14

twangstring says...

JimMachen wrote:
Limestonecowboy wrote:
Roger Elliot wrote:
Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements?
Really no victims start with driving under the influence, using the vunerable to cultivate the crop, damage to property, taste for harder drug leading to beating up innocent people afer drug binges, long-term phychological effects, victimless crime ... really?
For most of the above, substitute alcohol for cannabis and you have exactly the same results.

Will the police be doing an evidence sale? ;o)
I know someone who's whole familly was torn apart, both his stepchildren became paranoid schizophrenics PERMANENTLY because of pot. Now they live a useless life and get benefits that are costing all of us. Alcohol abuse, a blight on society, doesn't make this any less damaging. My friend had a nervous breakdown because of it. He wouldn't say there were no victims.
[quote][p][bold]JimMachen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Limestonecowboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roger Elliot[/bold] wrote: Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements?[/p][/quote]Really no victims start with driving under the influence, using the vunerable to cultivate the crop, damage to property, taste for harder drug leading to beating up innocent people afer drug binges, long-term phychological effects, victimless crime ... really?[/p][/quote]For most of the above, substitute alcohol for cannabis and you have exactly the same results. Will the police be doing an evidence sale? ;o)[/p][/quote]I know someone who's whole familly was torn apart, both his stepchildren became paranoid schizophrenics PERMANENTLY because of pot. Now they live a useless life and get benefits that are costing all of us. Alcohol abuse, a blight on society, doesn't make this any less damaging. My friend had a nervous breakdown because of it. He wouldn't say there were no victims. twangstring
  • Score: 0

6:30pm Sun 10 Aug 14

displayed says...

Severn40 wrote:
Those extra millions could have helped Councillor Bright with his budget cuts. could the Argus please report a quote from him?
What a brite idea..............
[quote][p][bold]Severn40[/bold] wrote: Those extra millions could have helped Councillor Bright with his budget cuts. could the Argus please report a quote from him?[/p][/quote]What a brite idea.............. displayed
  • Score: -8

6:32pm Sun 10 Aug 14

displayed says...

corpamassive wrote:
Dominos on chepstow road has just taken a big order for 100 pizas,
large cokes and a box of rizlas.

Delivery to maindee plice station.


You Knows it Blad.
So its another quiet nite in for them then........
[quote][p][bold]corpamassive[/bold] wrote: Dominos on chepstow road has just taken a big order for 100 pizas, large cokes and a box of rizlas. Delivery to maindee plice station. You Knows it Blad.[/p][/quote]So its another quiet nite in for them then........ displayed
  • Score: 24

12:08am Mon 11 Aug 14

Stan Edwards says...

Some of the more trivial comments need to weeded out.
Apparently the smell was noticeable all over the estate. I keep thinking of the smell and dialogue in the taxi ride going to meet King Willie in Predator 2!
Some of the more trivial comments need to weeded out. Apparently the smell was noticeable all over the estate. I keep thinking of the smell and dialogue in the taxi ride going to meet King Willie in Predator 2! Stan Edwards
  • Score: -3

12:22am Mon 11 Aug 14

Stan Edwards says...

The Council wanted evidence that the City was going to pot...............
The Council wanted evidence that the City was going to pot............... Stan Edwards
  • Score: -4

11:54am Mon 11 Aug 14

WJackson says...

Limestonecowboy wrote:
Roger Elliot wrote:
Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements?
Really no victims start with driving under the influence, using the vunerable to cultivate the crop, damage to property, taste for harder drug leading to beating up innocent people afer drug binges, long-term phychological effects, victimless crime ... really?
Everything you listed is a result of society's view of cannabis, not cannabis or cannabis use itself.
Using the vulnerable to grow it, vulnerable people could be used to commit all manner of crimes... the only reason they're vulnerable in this situation is BECAUSE cannabis is illegal...
Taste for harder drug leading to beating people up... lol, again, could happen with literally anything. Got a prescription for anxiety? See you at your GBH trial then.
People drive under the influence? Really? So I guess alcohol should have long been banned, too? What's that? Oh, YOU like alcohol, so it shouldn't be banned?
Oh. Ok then, Stalin. Let's all do what you want.
[quote][p][bold]Limestonecowboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roger Elliot[/bold] wrote: Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements?[/p][/quote]Really no victims start with driving under the influence, using the vunerable to cultivate the crop, damage to property, taste for harder drug leading to beating up innocent people afer drug binges, long-term phychological effects, victimless crime ... really?[/p][/quote]Everything you listed is a result of society's view of cannabis, not cannabis or cannabis use itself. Using the vulnerable to grow it, vulnerable people could be used to commit all manner of crimes... the only reason they're vulnerable in this situation is BECAUSE cannabis is illegal... Taste for harder drug leading to beating people up... lol, again, could happen with literally anything. Got a prescription for anxiety? See you at your GBH trial then. People drive under the influence? Really? So I guess alcohol should have long been banned, too? What's that? Oh, YOU like alcohol, so it shouldn't be banned? Oh. Ok then, Stalin. Let's all do what you want. WJackson
  • Score: 14

1:31pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Mike Parent says...

End prohibotion. We'd all be better off if the police focused on crimes that have actual victims!
End prohibotion. We'd all be better off if the police focused on crimes that have actual victims! Mike Parent
  • Score: 2

1:57pm Mon 11 Aug 14

-trigg- says...

Although I am in favour of cannabis legalisation, I don't condone this type of 'factory'. In general, the electricity for the lighting is stolen using an unsafe meter bypass, which adds to everyone's electricity bill as well as presenting a clear fire risk.

In addition, many of the people working in these factories are illegal immigrants forced to do so in order to 'repay' the costs of getting them into the country.

Cannabis needs to be grown and sold commercially in licensed and regulated conditions, with an allowance made for those who wish to grow their own for personal consumption. Decriminalise cannabis and you take it out of the hands of criminals and into the hands of people who will pay tax for the right to purchase it.
Although I am in favour of cannabis legalisation, I don't condone this type of 'factory'. In general, the electricity for the lighting is stolen using an unsafe meter bypass, which adds to everyone's electricity bill as well as presenting a clear fire risk. In addition, many of the people working in these factories are illegal immigrants forced to do so in order to 'repay' the costs of getting them into the country. Cannabis needs to be grown and sold commercially in licensed and regulated conditions, with an allowance made for those who wish to grow their own for personal consumption. Decriminalise cannabis and you take it out of the hands of criminals and into the hands of people who will pay tax for the right to purchase it. -trigg-
  • Score: 12

3:47pm Mon 11 Aug 14

DavidMclean says...

It's worth looking over the water to the USA where cannabis has been legalized in both Colorado and California. One unexpected benefit was that highway fatalities in Colorado are at near-historic lows, which flies in the face of the doom-mongers who predicted the exact opposite. Also, use of the drug by teenagers in the state has dropped, with health experts saying the 'cool' of cannabis is removed when it becomes legalised.
It's worth looking over the water to the USA where cannabis has been legalized in both Colorado and California. One unexpected benefit was that highway fatalities in Colorado are at near-historic lows, which flies in the face of the doom-mongers who predicted the exact opposite. Also, use of the drug by teenagers in the state has dropped, with health experts saying the 'cool' of cannabis is removed when it becomes legalised. DavidMclean
  • Score: 9

6:26pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Magor says...

Make it legal so strength and quality can be controlled.Until it is legal it will be supplied by criminals.
Make it legal so strength and quality can be controlled.Until it is legal it will be supplied by criminals. Magor
  • Score: 9

7:48pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Limestonecowboy says...

Its a case of reading the headlines ... its illegal !!
Its a case of reading the headlines ... its illegal !! Limestonecowboy
  • Score: 7

12:05pm Tue 12 Aug 14

lasagna says...

I think it's "high" time something was done about this. Perhaps a " joint " session between the police and the Council can help prevent this from happening again. I would hate to see our fair city's reputation go " up in smoke " . Hopefully it won't go to " pot " because of all this.
I think it's "high" time something was done about this. Perhaps a " joint " session between the police and the Council can help prevent this from happening again. I would hate to see our fair city's reputation go " up in smoke " . Hopefully it won't go to " pot " because of all this. lasagna
  • Score: -2

12:34pm Tue 12 Aug 14

DaiiWatkins says...

Independentvoter wrote:
4,000 cannabis plants thought to be worth millions of pounds ? I don't think so and I don't even smoke the stuff.
4000 plants costing 1.1 Million will be £275 per Plant. Average Price i'd say.
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: 4,000 cannabis plants thought to be worth millions of pounds ? I don't think so and I don't even smoke the stuff.[/p][/quote]4000 plants costing 1.1 Million will be £275 per Plant. Average Price i'd say. DaiiWatkins
  • Score: -2

1:46pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Dr Martin says...

Limestonecowboy wrote:
Roger Elliot wrote:
Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements?
Really no victims start with driving under the influence, using the vunerable to cultivate the crop, damage to property, taste for harder drug leading to beating up innocent people afer drug binges, long-term phychological effects, victimless crime ... really?
but the stoners don't want to hear the truth
[quote][p][bold]Limestonecowboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roger Elliot[/bold] wrote: Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements?[/p][/quote]Really no victims start with driving under the influence, using the vunerable to cultivate the crop, damage to property, taste for harder drug leading to beating up innocent people afer drug binges, long-term phychological effects, victimless crime ... really?[/p][/quote]but the stoners don't want to hear the truth Dr Martin
  • Score: -2

1:52pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Dr Martin says...

DavidMclean wrote:
It's worth looking over the water to the USA where cannabis has been legalized in both Colorado and California. One unexpected benefit was that highway fatalities in Colorado are at near-historic lows, which flies in the face of the doom-mongers who predicted the exact opposite. Also, use of the drug by teenagers in the state has dropped, with health experts saying the 'cool' of cannabis is removed when it becomes legalised.
http://kdvr.com/2014
/05/15/study-more-ma
rijuana-positive-dri
vers-involved-in-fat
al-car-accidents-in-
colorado/
[quote][p][bold]DavidMclean[/bold] wrote: It's worth looking over the water to the USA where cannabis has been legalized in both Colorado and California. One unexpected benefit was that highway fatalities in Colorado are at near-historic lows, which flies in the face of the doom-mongers who predicted the exact opposite. Also, use of the drug by teenagers in the state has dropped, with health experts saying the 'cool' of cannabis is removed when it becomes legalised.[/p][/quote]http://kdvr.com/2014 /05/15/study-more-ma rijuana-positive-dri vers-involved-in-fat al-car-accidents-in- colorado/ Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

3:49pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Roger Elliot says...

Dr Martin wrote:
Limestonecowboy wrote:
Roger Elliot wrote:
Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements?
Really no victims start with driving under the influence, using the vunerable to cultivate the crop, damage to property, taste for harder drug leading to beating up innocent people afer drug binges, long-term phychological effects, victimless crime ... really?
but the stoners don't want to hear the truth
I was a "stoner" for decades until an unrelated health issue (too boring to go into) meant I had to give up any form of smoking. Not one of the listed "effects" applied to me. Also I experienced absolutely no withdrawal symptoms. Unlike tobacco smokers or manic drinkers of my acquaintance.

Also the "psychotic" episodes of cannabis smoking (as calculated by Ben "Bad Science" Goldacre) amount to @ 800 a year in a populace of estimated 6million+ users. Not a significant enough statistic to justify prohibition.
But the sheeple don't want to hear the truth,
[quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Limestonecowboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roger Elliot[/bold] wrote: Why are the police wasting their time on this victimless crime when they could be stopping cycling on pavements?[/p][/quote]Really no victims start with driving under the influence, using the vunerable to cultivate the crop, damage to property, taste for harder drug leading to beating up innocent people afer drug binges, long-term phychological effects, victimless crime ... really?[/p][/quote]but the stoners don't want to hear the truth[/p][/quote]I was a "stoner" for decades until an unrelated health issue (too boring to go into) meant I had to give up any form of smoking. Not one of the listed "effects" applied to me. Also I experienced absolutely no withdrawal symptoms. Unlike tobacco smokers or manic drinkers of my acquaintance. Also the "psychotic" episodes of cannabis smoking (as calculated by Ben "Bad Science" Goldacre) amount to @ 800 a year in a populace of estimated 6million+ users. Not a significant enough statistic to justify prohibition. But the sheeple don't want to hear the truth, Roger Elliot
  • Score: 0

11:36pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Dr Martin says...

tut tut 7 year old stats and they are wrong anyway
tut tut 7 year old stats and they are wrong anyway Dr Martin
  • Score: -2

6:23pm Thu 14 Aug 14

alongfortheride says...

Oh the uninformed brigade how I love how much rubbish you spout.

The value is from the crop. They don't sell the plants it's for the deals you get. How many £10 bags do you think you'll get from that amount... Alot, hence the high value.

Victimless crime? Christ tell that to the poor immigrants who get forced to work in these conditions. Not to mention the one who was killed in Newport some time back and dumped outside the Gwent.

Yes alcohol is bad and the usual go to argument for idiots who use this stuff, but it's illegal and mess people up, and I don't find you would ever find a single heroin addict who didn't start smoking cannabis. Yes not all users progress but it is a stepping stone to harder drugs for others.

This sort of drug trafficking funds further crime and terrorism. There is nothing good about it.

Thing is the idiot stones are too caught up in their bubbles to think where the stuff comes from and what it costs some people.

And speak with families who have suffered because of the drug and you'll understand how bad it can be. The effects might not be physical like alcohol or tobacco but the mental damage can be huge.
Oh the uninformed brigade how I love how much rubbish you spout. The value is from the crop. They don't sell the plants it's for the deals you get. How many £10 bags do you think you'll get from that amount... Alot, hence the high value. Victimless crime? Christ tell that to the poor immigrants who get forced to work in these conditions. Not to mention the one who was killed in Newport some time back and dumped outside the Gwent. Yes alcohol is bad and the usual go to argument for idiots who use this stuff, but it's illegal and mess people up, and I don't find you would ever find a single heroin addict who didn't start smoking cannabis. Yes not all users progress but it is a stepping stone to harder drugs for others. This sort of drug trafficking funds further crime and terrorism. There is nothing good about it. Thing is the idiot stones are too caught up in their bubbles to think where the stuff comes from and what it costs some people. And speak with families who have suffered because of the drug and you'll understand how bad it can be. The effects might not be physical like alcohol or tobacco but the mental damage can be huge. alongfortheride
  • Score: 6

2:23pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Mervyn James says...

The result of closing leisure centres, they now use them to grow drugs instead ! 'Victimless Crime' ? they cost Gwent millions in police time, and, cost the NHS billions, and is peace of mind via burglaries, and broken homes. 'Soft' drugs lead to hard drugs,. Clear evidence those that smoke cannabis are already in a world of their own.
The result of closing leisure centres, they now use them to grow drugs instead ! 'Victimless Crime' ? they cost Gwent millions in police time, and, cost the NHS billions, and is peace of mind via burglaries, and broken homes. 'Soft' drugs lead to hard drugs,. Clear evidence those that smoke cannabis are already in a world of their own. Mervyn James
  • Score: 1

11:42pm Fri 15 Aug 14

Roger Elliot says...

Mervyn James wrote:
The result of closing leisure centres, they now use them to grow drugs instead ! 'Victimless Crime' ? they cost Gwent millions in police time, and, cost the NHS billions, and is peace of mind via burglaries, and broken homes. 'Soft' drugs lead to hard drugs,. Clear evidence those that smoke cannabis are already in a world of their own.
"Police time" would disappear if it wasn't needlessly illegal, and how do you calculate the NHS "billions"? Show us your workings!

Nought but hysterical nonsense! And to think it's the "stoners" who are supposed to be the paranoid ones.
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: The result of closing leisure centres, they now use them to grow drugs instead ! 'Victimless Crime' ? they cost Gwent millions in police time, and, cost the NHS billions, and is peace of mind via burglaries, and broken homes. 'Soft' drugs lead to hard drugs,. Clear evidence those that smoke cannabis are already in a world of their own.[/p][/quote]"Police time" would disappear if it wasn't needlessly illegal, and how do you calculate the NHS "billions"? Show us your workings! Nought but hysterical nonsense! And to think it's the "stoners" who are supposed to be the paranoid ones. Roger Elliot
  • Score: 1

6:13am Mon 18 Aug 14

Newport2014 says...

No wonder there are *too* many nutters in Newport.
No wonder there are *too* many nutters in Newport. Newport2014
  • Score: 2

5:27am Wed 20 Aug 14

Moi iom says...

Never mind the plants - the Police woman's a BABE! :)
Never mind the plants - the Police woman's a BABE! :) Moi iom
  • Score: 0

5:37am Wed 20 Aug 14

Moi iom says...

Independentvoter wrote:
4,000 cannabis plants thought to be worth millions of pounds ? I don't think so and I don't even smoke the stuff.
4000*30grams per plant average = 120,000 grams
1100,000 pounds / 120,000 grams = 9,17 squids a gram
Don't know what the price is, don't smoke, but maybe plants give more than 30 grams?
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: 4,000 cannabis plants thought to be worth millions of pounds ? I don't think so and I don't even smoke the stuff.[/p][/quote]4000*30grams per plant average = 120,000 grams 1100,000 pounds / 120,000 grams = 9,17 squids a gram Don't know what the price is, don't smoke, but maybe plants give more than 30 grams? Moi iom
  • Score: -2

12:26pm Fri 22 Aug 14

kemonson99 says...

that copper looks high
that copper looks high kemonson99
  • Score: -1

3:31pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Dr Martin says...

Roger Elliot wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
The result of closing leisure centres, they now use them to grow drugs instead ! 'Victimless Crime' ? they cost Gwent millions in police time, and, cost the NHS billions, and is peace of mind via burglaries, and broken homes. 'Soft' drugs lead to hard drugs,. Clear evidence those that smoke cannabis are already in a world of their own.
"Police time" would disappear if it wasn't needlessly illegal, and how do you calculate the NHS "billions"? Show us your workings!

Nought but hysterical nonsense! And to think it's the "stoners" who are supposed to be the paranoid ones.
Police time" would disappear

Would it now?, people steal for drugs now (that are tax tree and free from normal business costs electricity NI etc )
How are stoners going to pay for weed that is taxed?
[quote][p][bold]Roger Elliot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: The result of closing leisure centres, they now use them to grow drugs instead ! 'Victimless Crime' ? they cost Gwent millions in police time, and, cost the NHS billions, and is peace of mind via burglaries, and broken homes. 'Soft' drugs lead to hard drugs,. Clear evidence those that smoke cannabis are already in a world of their own.[/p][/quote]"Police time" would disappear if it wasn't needlessly illegal, and how do you calculate the NHS "billions"? Show us your workings! Nought but hysterical nonsense! And to think it's the "stoners" who are supposed to be the paranoid ones.[/p][/quote]Police time" would disappear Would it now?, people steal for drugs now (that are tax tree and free from normal business costs electricity NI etc ) How are stoners going to pay for weed that is taxed? Dr Martin
  • Score: -3

10:11pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Jonnytrouble says...

UMMM,,, Emma looks very happy in the photo, is it because she expected the Crime to be more than 1.1 Million pounds ( peanut drug money )?
and it turned out to be a lousy Cannabis factory !
Mr Paul Flynn wants the stuff legalised do you remember years back ?
20 Police officers were involved costing us the TAX payer ££££££ 's ????
Just disappointed maybe that she did'nt find a nice Cocaine factory or Heroine factory that is worth more ?
UMMM,,, Emma looks very happy in the photo, is it because she expected the Crime to be more than 1.1 Million pounds ( peanut drug money )? and it turned out to be a lousy Cannabis factory ! Mr Paul Flynn wants the stuff legalised do you remember years back ? 20 Police officers were involved costing us the TAX payer ££££££ 's ???? Just disappointed maybe that she did'nt find a nice Cocaine factory or Heroine factory that is worth more ? Jonnytrouble
  • Score: 1

10:26pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Jonnytrouble says...

Mervyn James wrote:
The result of closing leisure centres, they now use them to grow drugs instead ! 'Victimless Crime' ? they cost Gwent millions in police time, and, cost the NHS billions, and is peace of mind via burglaries, and broken homes. 'Soft' drugs lead to hard drugs,. Clear evidence those that smoke cannabis are already in a world of their own.
'Soft' drugs lead to hard drugs,. Clear evidence those that smoke cannabis are already in a world of their own.
Maybe but what stats do you have ?
I tried it in my youth as my mate had some,i drank lager he smoked it as he said it was cheaper than what I drank and had same effects, trouble was my lager and his joint did not mix and so sorry for the mess I left on the pavement that night,,never touched it to this day...LOL !
My old mate NEVER went on to ' Hard drugs ' got married had a big family a good job and it was just an experimental time !
One of the ' lucky one's ?
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: The result of closing leisure centres, they now use them to grow drugs instead ! 'Victimless Crime' ? they cost Gwent millions in police time, and, cost the NHS billions, and is peace of mind via burglaries, and broken homes. 'Soft' drugs lead to hard drugs,. Clear evidence those that smoke cannabis are already in a world of their own.[/p][/quote]'Soft' drugs lead to hard drugs,. Clear evidence those that smoke cannabis are already in a world of their own. Maybe but what stats do you have ? I tried it in my youth as my mate had some,i drank lager he smoked it as he said it was cheaper than what I drank and had same effects, trouble was my lager and his joint did not mix and so sorry for the mess I left on the pavement that night,,never touched it to this day...LOL ! My old mate NEVER went on to ' Hard drugs ' got married had a big family a good job and it was just an experimental time ! One of the ' lucky one's ? Jonnytrouble
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