Permission sought to change Newport's Kings Hotel into apartments

Pictured are latest pictures of the Kings Hotel at the top of High Street in Newport. (6985034)

Pictured are latest pictures of the Kings Hotel at the top of High Street in Newport. (6985034)

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THE planning application to convert an iconic city centre hotel into luxury apartments has been lodged with the council.

The planning application, which has been submitted by Cardiff-based businessman Jahan Abedi, one of TV's Secret Millionaries, is for the 200-year-old Kings Hotel to be converted into 13 two-bedroom apartments, 14 one-bedroom apartments and three studios.

Three office units and two commercial units are also included in the plans.

The Argus reported on Mr Abedi's plans to convert the hotel into luxury apartments in June this year when he said the time is right to invest in Newport as the city can only go one way – up.

Mr Abedi is currently converting the former Shire Hall close to the city's railway station into luxury flats and plans to be part of the "positive change" happening in Newport city centre.

He previously said: "I believe that Newport has the potential of being the great city as it once was a century ago.

“It was once the coal capital of the world and there is such a rich history behind it. This can be seen by the beautiful historic buildings which are dotted around the city, most of which have sadly fallen into disrepair.

“I believe that the property in Newport is heavily undervalued. The city has some structurally magnificent old buildings which would be great to work and live in."

Mr Abedi, an Iranian who moved to Cardiff 25 years ago, said that when he first moved to the capital it was underfunded and many areas were "derelict and rundown".

He added: "A realistic attitude from Cardiff City Council changed the city. I see Newport going the same way and there are plan for some major public and private investments in the city.

"This can only have a positive impact on the infrastructure and we would like to be part of that positive change."

The Kings Hotel closed its doors in 2012 following a severe downturn in trade.

Planning notices have gone up at the site and comments are being sought by neighbours and members of the public.

People have until September 3 to comment on the application before it is discussed by Newport City Council's planning committee.

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8:03am Mon 11 Aug 14

displayed says...

"THE planning application to convert an iconic city centre hotel into luxury apartments has been lodged with the council. "

Ho,ho, ho,very droll, the copy editor has a sense of humour..............
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"THE planning application to convert an iconic city centre hotel into luxury apartments has been lodged with the council. " Ho,ho, ho,very droll, the copy editor has a sense of humour.............. .. displayed
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8:04am Mon 11 Aug 14

portman says...

Well done that man! now back him up and close rat subway and get that footbridge built over the railway station ...talking about it is not building it .
Well done that man! now back him up and close rat subway and get that footbridge built over the railway station ...talking about it is not building it . portman
  • Score: 27

8:36am Mon 11 Aug 14

scraptheWAG says...

yep crack on cannot be worse than a empty nope he paid a cheap price for it
yep crack on cannot be worse than a empty nope he paid a cheap price for it scraptheWAG
  • Score: -14

8:43am Mon 11 Aug 14

Ianto130 says...

More people living in the city centre can only be a good thing. The type of accommodation is a matter of personal choice and as with a lot of new developments, space is at a premium in many of the units. If you want to see the application try this :
http://documents.new
port.gov.uk/Northgat
e.WebSearch/(S(y4tgc
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)/Results.aspx
It plays down the lack of parking directly associated with the site which can be an issue for planners but perhaps there is a market for people who don't need a car. The building has been shut for far too long so unless anyone has a better idea and the wherewithal to back it up, let's hope this is a success.
More people living in the city centre can only be a good thing. The type of accommodation is a matter of personal choice and as with a lot of new developments, space is at a premium in many of the units. If you want to see the application try this : http://documents.new port.gov.uk/Northgat e.WebSearch/(S(y4tgc 5imwh02yd25yiqfy5ib) )/Results.aspx It plays down the lack of parking directly associated with the site which can be an issue for planners but perhaps there is a market for people who don't need a car. The building has been shut for far too long so unless anyone has a better idea and the wherewithal to back it up, let's hope this is a success. Ianto130
  • Score: 26

9:02am Mon 11 Aug 14

KarloMarko says...

"ICONIC" is now so overused to the point where
everything from a fast-food restaurant chain to
celebrities is 'iconic’”. And almost all searches reported in the media appear to be desperate, in an apparent attempt to over-dramatise otherwise relatively MUNDANE stories."......For God's sake, Get a GRIP.
"ICONIC" is now so overused to the point where everything from a fast-food restaurant chain to celebrities is 'iconic’”. And almost all searches reported in the media appear to be desperate, in an apparent attempt to over-dramatise otherwise relatively MUNDANE stories."......For God's sake, Get a GRIP. KarloMarko
  • Score: -6

9:21am Mon 11 Aug 14

John Frost Lives says...

Why the negativity!? As much as the next person, I have been down on the running down and ruination of the City by the council and the developers over the years. But now, things are different, it's there for all to see. Someone has made a decent plan and it's being implemented. This chap's work with his Shire Hall building needs applauding, the renovation is superb, we have saved a beautiful building which a couple of years ago would of been smashed down or left to rot. The Kings, is another of those lovely, (iconic for Newport? yes I reckon) buildings. Like a lot of Newports best architecture, it's smack in the centre of town. Cardiff did this 25 years ago and look at it now. By this time next year, with the new shopping centre and all these new developments/renovat
ions, we will be able to be proud of the place, and to enjoy it again, so much so I am going to open a high end shop here next year! enjoy and well done all involved.
Why the negativity!? As much as the next person, I have been down on the running down and ruination of the City by the council and the developers over the years. But now, things are different, it's there for all to see. Someone has made a decent plan and it's being implemented. This chap's work with his Shire Hall building needs applauding, the renovation is superb, we have saved a beautiful building which a couple of years ago would of been smashed down or left to rot. The Kings, is another of those lovely, (iconic for Newport? yes I reckon) buildings. Like a lot of Newports best architecture, it's smack in the centre of town. Cardiff did this 25 years ago and look at it now. By this time next year, with the new shopping centre and all these new developments/renovat ions, we will be able to be proud of the place, and to enjoy it again, so much so I am going to open a high end shop here next year! enjoy and well done all involved. John Frost Lives
  • Score: 43

9:54am Mon 11 Aug 14

KarloMarko says...

I'm not having a go at the merits of refurbishing Newport's older architecture which, as you say, is worthwhile. It's the mindless and bone-idle hack use of "Iconic" at every opportunity. BBC Wales cant pass a Z lister without its use. I've even heard Ron Davies called "Iconic"...only to badgers.
I'm not having a go at the merits of refurbishing Newport's older architecture which, as you say, is worthwhile. It's the mindless and bone-idle hack use of "Iconic" at every opportunity. BBC Wales cant pass a Z lister without its use. I've even heard Ron Davies called "Iconic"...only to badgers. KarloMarko
  • Score: -1

10:02am Mon 11 Aug 14

Llanmartinangel says...

John Frost Lives wrote:
Why the negativity!? As much as the next person, I have been down on the running down and ruination of the City by the council and the developers over the years. But now, things are different, it's there for all to see. Someone has made a decent plan and it's being implemented. This chap's work with his Shire Hall building needs applauding, the renovation is superb, we have saved a beautiful building which a couple of years ago would of been smashed down or left to rot. The Kings, is another of those lovely, (iconic for Newport? yes I reckon) buildings. Like a lot of Newports best architecture, it's smack in the centre of town. Cardiff did this 25 years ago and look at it now. By this time next year, with the new shopping centre and all these new developments/renovat

ions, we will be able to be proud of the place, and to enjoy it again, so much so I am going to open a high end shop here next year! enjoy and well done all involved.
I think you're right. Footfall into the city is bound to increase if the people are already living in it. It should encourage the opening of more eateries and quality nightlife too. Cardiff has been turning unwanted buildings into accommodation for years so why not do the same here?
[quote][p][bold]John Frost Lives[/bold] wrote: Why the negativity!? As much as the next person, I have been down on the running down and ruination of the City by the council and the developers over the years. But now, things are different, it's there for all to see. Someone has made a decent plan and it's being implemented. This chap's work with his Shire Hall building needs applauding, the renovation is superb, we have saved a beautiful building which a couple of years ago would of been smashed down or left to rot. The Kings, is another of those lovely, (iconic for Newport? yes I reckon) buildings. Like a lot of Newports best architecture, it's smack in the centre of town. Cardiff did this 25 years ago and look at it now. By this time next year, with the new shopping centre and all these new developments/renovat ions, we will be able to be proud of the place, and to enjoy it again, so much so I am going to open a high end shop here next year! enjoy and well done all involved.[/p][/quote]I think you're right. Footfall into the city is bound to increase if the people are already living in it. It should encourage the opening of more eateries and quality nightlife too. Cardiff has been turning unwanted buildings into accommodation for years so why not do the same here? Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 22

12:10pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

John Frost Lives wrote:
Why the negativity!? As much as the next person, I have been down on the running down and ruination of the City by the council and the developers over the years. But now, things are different, it's there for all to see. Someone has made a decent plan and it's being implemented. This chap's work with his Shire Hall building needs applauding, the renovation is superb, we have saved a beautiful building which a couple of years ago would of been smashed down or left to rot. The Kings, is another of those lovely, (iconic for Newport? yes I reckon) buildings. Like a lot of Newports best architecture, it's smack in the centre of town. Cardiff did this 25 years ago and look at it now. By this time next year, with the new shopping centre and all these new developments/renovat

ions, we will be able to be proud of the place, and to enjoy it again, so much so I am going to open a high end shop here next year! enjoy and well done all involved.
Absolutely.
But don't expect much from the commentators on here who in the main are negative about anything that is seen as entrepreneurial or innovative.
[quote][p][bold]John Frost Lives[/bold] wrote: Why the negativity!? As much as the next person, I have been down on the running down and ruination of the City by the council and the developers over the years. But now, things are different, it's there for all to see. Someone has made a decent plan and it's being implemented. This chap's work with his Shire Hall building needs applauding, the renovation is superb, we have saved a beautiful building which a couple of years ago would of been smashed down or left to rot. The Kings, is another of those lovely, (iconic for Newport? yes I reckon) buildings. Like a lot of Newports best architecture, it's smack in the centre of town. Cardiff did this 25 years ago and look at it now. By this time next year, with the new shopping centre and all these new developments/renovat ions, we will be able to be proud of the place, and to enjoy it again, so much so I am going to open a high end shop here next year! enjoy and well done all involved.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. But don't expect much from the commentators on here who in the main are negative about anything that is seen as entrepreneurial or innovative. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 15

12:11pm Mon 11 Aug 14

sperduti says...

John Frost Lives wrote:
Why the negativity!? As much as the next person, I have been down on the running down and ruination of the City by the council and the developers over the years. But now, things are different, it's there for all to see. Someone has made a decent plan and it's being implemented. This chap's work with his Shire Hall building needs applauding, the renovation is superb, we have saved a beautiful building which a couple of years ago would of been smashed down or left to rot. The Kings, is another of those lovely, (iconic for Newport? yes I reckon) buildings. Like a lot of Newports best architecture, it's smack in the centre of town. Cardiff did this 25 years ago and look at it now. By this time next year, with the new shopping centre and all these new developments/renovat

ions, we will be able to be proud of the place, and to enjoy it again, so much so I am going to open a high end shop here next year! enjoy and well done all involved.
what about the westgate hotel ?? that's been empty for years as well!
[quote][p][bold]John Frost Lives[/bold] wrote: Why the negativity!? As much as the next person, I have been down on the running down and ruination of the City by the council and the developers over the years. But now, things are different, it's there for all to see. Someone has made a decent plan and it's being implemented. This chap's work with his Shire Hall building needs applauding, the renovation is superb, we have saved a beautiful building which a couple of years ago would of been smashed down or left to rot. The Kings, is another of those lovely, (iconic for Newport? yes I reckon) buildings. Like a lot of Newports best architecture, it's smack in the centre of town. Cardiff did this 25 years ago and look at it now. By this time next year, with the new shopping centre and all these new developments/renovat ions, we will be able to be proud of the place, and to enjoy it again, so much so I am going to open a high end shop here next year! enjoy and well done all involved.[/p][/quote]what about the westgate hotel ?? that's been empty for years as well! sperduti
  • Score: 7

1:03pm Mon 11 Aug 14

John Frost Lives says...

sperduti wrote:
John Frost Lives wrote:
Why the negativity!? As much as the next person, I have been down on the running down and ruination of the City by the council and the developers over the years. But now, things are different, it's there for all to see. Someone has made a decent plan and it's being implemented. This chap's work with his Shire Hall building needs applauding, the renovation is superb, we have saved a beautiful building which a couple of years ago would of been smashed down or left to rot. The Kings, is another of those lovely, (iconic for Newport? yes I reckon) buildings. Like a lot of Newports best architecture, it's smack in the centre of town. Cardiff did this 25 years ago and look at it now. By this time next year, with the new shopping centre and all these new developments/renovat


ions, we will be able to be proud of the place, and to enjoy it again, so much so I am going to open a high end shop here next year! enjoy and well done all involved.
what about the westgate hotel ?? that's been empty for years as well!
Yep, good idea, and one I believe is being acted upon. I did notice the scaffold up for a month odd and work was going on inside and out to enhance it for sure. I have heard it's going to be one of Terry Matthews brainchild ideas, something to do with a catering college...? But again, great to see if being preserved and enhanced, and if we get flats or a college in there, great, it all gets the bodies back on the streets. I believe the flats above another gorgeous building (the principality) have been given the ok for high end flat conversions too, bring it on. In 18 months time we will have a town to use and be proud of once more.
[quote][p][bold]sperduti[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Frost Lives[/bold] wrote: Why the negativity!? As much as the next person, I have been down on the running down and ruination of the City by the council and the developers over the years. But now, things are different, it's there for all to see. Someone has made a decent plan and it's being implemented. This chap's work with his Shire Hall building needs applauding, the renovation is superb, we have saved a beautiful building which a couple of years ago would of been smashed down or left to rot. The Kings, is another of those lovely, (iconic for Newport? yes I reckon) buildings. Like a lot of Newports best architecture, it's smack in the centre of town. Cardiff did this 25 years ago and look at it now. By this time next year, with the new shopping centre and all these new developments/renovat ions, we will be able to be proud of the place, and to enjoy it again, so much so I am going to open a high end shop here next year! enjoy and well done all involved.[/p][/quote]what about the westgate hotel ?? that's been empty for years as well![/p][/quote]Yep, good idea, and one I believe is being acted upon. I did notice the scaffold up for a month odd and work was going on inside and out to enhance it for sure. I have heard it's going to be one of Terry Matthews brainchild ideas, something to do with a catering college...? But again, great to see if being preserved and enhanced, and if we get flats or a college in there, great, it all gets the bodies back on the streets. I believe the flats above another gorgeous building (the principality) have been given the ok for high end flat conversions too, bring it on. In 18 months time we will have a town to use and be proud of once more. John Frost Lives
  • Score: 14

2:51pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Newportg says...

displayed wrote:
"THE planning application to convert an iconic city centre hotel into luxury apartments has been lodged with the council. "

Ho,ho, ho,very droll, the copy editor has a sense of humour..............

..
Moaning whinger.

Minus 20 says it all!
[quote][p][bold]displayed[/bold] wrote: "THE planning application to convert an iconic city centre hotel into luxury apartments has been lodged with the council. " Ho,ho, ho,very droll, the copy editor has a sense of humour.............. ..[/p][/quote]Moaning whinger. Minus 20 says it all! Newportg
  • Score: 5

2:51pm Mon 11 Aug 14

DavidMclean says...

KarloMarko wrote:
I'm not having a go at the merits of refurbishing Newport's older architecture which, as you say, is worthwhile. It's the mindless and bone-idle hack use of "Iconic" at every opportunity. BBC Wales cant pass a Z lister without its use. I've even heard Ron Davies called "Iconic"...only to badgers.
I'm not disagreeing with your point about certain words being overused, or indeed misused (take a bow the horrifically misused 'awesome'), however, with regards to the Kings Hotel, I think 'iconic' is a fair word to use if you take the dictionary definition 'widely recognised and well established' (or words to that effect).
[quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: I'm not having a go at the merits of refurbishing Newport's older architecture which, as you say, is worthwhile. It's the mindless and bone-idle hack use of "Iconic" at every opportunity. BBC Wales cant pass a Z lister without its use. I've even heard Ron Davies called "Iconic"...only to badgers.[/p][/quote]I'm not disagreeing with your point about certain words being overused, or indeed misused (take a bow the horrifically misused 'awesome'), however, with regards to the Kings Hotel, I think 'iconic' is a fair word to use if you take the dictionary definition 'widely recognised and well established' (or words to that effect). DavidMclean
  • Score: 5

3:49pm Mon 11 Aug 14

KarloMarko says...

OK, maybe I am being picky but the the word has become so debased by hack journalists and advertisers (same thing) that it's now meaningless. I even heard an "academic" talk about "Iconic Icons". Then I reached for my revolver. "Hero" is another one rollled out with the cornflakes....We are infantilised to be controlled.
OK, maybe I am being picky but the the word has become so debased by hack journalists and advertisers (same thing) that it's now meaningless. I even heard an "academic" talk about "Iconic Icons". Then I reached for my revolver. "Hero" is another one rollled out with the cornflakes....We are infantilised to be controlled. KarloMarko
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4:18pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Bobevans says...

I can see a number of problems such as poor vehicle access and parking. This helped kill off the hotel. It is also right in the middle of all the noisy clubs and bars and where the drunks hang out
I can see a number of problems such as poor vehicle access and parking. This helped kill off the hotel. It is also right in the middle of all the noisy clubs and bars and where the drunks hang out Bobevans
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4:55pm Mon 11 Aug 14

DavidMclean says...

KarloMarko wrote:
OK, maybe I am being picky but the the word has become so debased by hack journalists and advertisers (same thing) that it's now meaningless. I even heard an "academic" talk about "Iconic Icons". Then I reached for my revolver. "Hero" is another one rollled out with the cornflakes....We are infantilised to be controlled.
Too many words devalued these days. 'Awesome' is the one that gets me. It's used to describe the most mundane and non-awesome things.

Eddie Izzard nailed this one.
[quote][p][bold]KarloMarko[/bold] wrote: OK, maybe I am being picky but the the word has become so debased by hack journalists and advertisers (same thing) that it's now meaningless. I even heard an "academic" talk about "Iconic Icons". Then I reached for my revolver. "Hero" is another one rollled out with the cornflakes....We are infantilised to be controlled.[/p][/quote]Too many words devalued these days. 'Awesome' is the one that gets me. It's used to describe the most mundane and non-awesome things. Eddie Izzard nailed this one. DavidMclean
  • Score: -2

7:48pm Mon 11 Aug 14

grumpyandopinionated says...

Bobevans wrote:
I can see a number of problems such as poor vehicle access and parking. This helped kill off the hotel. It is also right in the middle of all the noisy clubs and bars and where the drunks hang out
How can something be in the middle if its the first building on the Street. No doubt the developer is targeting thosethat are using public transport to commute, also those that have such busy lives they worry little about the husstle and bussle of living in town as that's what you'd expect. Just let the get on with it and give some use back to an empty building that is of no use in its current state without being redeveloped, and before its Seton fire. Newport is not going to progress without redevelopment. So long as the external architecture remains I don't give a hoot what they do with the inside.
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: I can see a number of problems such as poor vehicle access and parking. This helped kill off the hotel. It is also right in the middle of all the noisy clubs and bars and where the drunks hang out[/p][/quote]How can something be in the middle if its the first building on the Street. No doubt the developer is targeting thosethat are using public transport to commute, also those that have such busy lives they worry little about the husstle and bussle of living in town as that's what you'd expect. Just let the get on with it and give some use back to an empty building that is of no use in its current state without being redeveloped, and before its Seton fire. Newport is not going to progress without redevelopment. So long as the external architecture remains I don't give a hoot what they do with the inside. grumpyandopinionated
  • Score: 9

12:01pm Tue 12 Aug 14

John Frost Lives says...

Bobevans wrote:
I can see a number of problems such as poor vehicle access and parking. This helped kill off the hotel. It is also right in the middle of all the noisy clubs and bars and where the drunks hang out
TBH Bob, this is exactly the point of all the redevelopment. If we improve the shopping experience first (tick next xmas), then we improve the eating/leisure experience (ditto) then it won't only be "drunks"' but families and such in Town, the same people who make other cities vibrant and use-able in the day and at night. The more people you can get to live in beautiful renovated buildings, the more the circle goes around...it is happening, and hats off to whoever got involved with newport council over the past 12 months, as this is a definite well planned system, and Newport will be a pleasure again.
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: I can see a number of problems such as poor vehicle access and parking. This helped kill off the hotel. It is also right in the middle of all the noisy clubs and bars and where the drunks hang out[/p][/quote]TBH Bob, this is exactly the point of all the redevelopment. If we improve the shopping experience first (tick next xmas), then we improve the eating/leisure experience (ditto) then it won't only be "drunks"' but families and such in Town, the same people who make other cities vibrant and use-able in the day and at night. The more people you can get to live in beautiful renovated buildings, the more the circle goes around...it is happening, and hats off to whoever got involved with newport council over the past 12 months, as this is a definite well planned system, and Newport will be a pleasure again. John Frost Lives
  • Score: 2

12:16pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

grumpyandopinionated wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
I can see a number of problems such as poor vehicle access and parking. This helped kill off the hotel. It is also right in the middle of all the noisy clubs and bars and where the drunks hang out
How can something be in the middle if its the first building on the Street. No doubt the developer is targeting thosethat are using public transport to commute, also those that have such busy lives they worry little about the husstle and bussle of living in town as that's what you'd expect. Just let the get on with it and give some use back to an empty building that is of no use in its current state without being redeveloped, and before its Seton fire. Newport is not going to progress without redevelopment. So long as the external architecture remains I don't give a hoot what they do with the inside.
Exactly.
They had no trouble selling the apartments in the David Morgan development in Cardiff and they didn't come with parking.
[quote][p][bold]grumpyandopinionated[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: I can see a number of problems such as poor vehicle access and parking. This helped kill off the hotel. It is also right in the middle of all the noisy clubs and bars and where the drunks hang out[/p][/quote]How can something be in the middle if its the first building on the Street. No doubt the developer is targeting thosethat are using public transport to commute, also those that have such busy lives they worry little about the husstle and bussle of living in town as that's what you'd expect. Just let the get on with it and give some use back to an empty building that is of no use in its current state without being redeveloped, and before its Seton fire. Newport is not going to progress without redevelopment. So long as the external architecture remains I don't give a hoot what they do with the inside.[/p][/quote]Exactly. They had no trouble selling the apartments in the David Morgan development in Cardiff and they didn't come with parking. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 1

12:26pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

John Frost Lives wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
I can see a number of problems such as poor vehicle access and parking. This helped kill off the hotel. It is also right in the middle of all the noisy clubs and bars and where the drunks hang out
TBH Bob, this is exactly the point of all the redevelopment. If we improve the shopping experience first (tick next xmas), then we improve the eating/leisure experience (ditto) then it won't only be "drunks"' but families and such in Town, the same people who make other cities vibrant and use-able in the day and at night. The more people you can get to live in beautiful renovated buildings, the more the circle goes around...it is happening, and hats off to whoever got involved with newport council over the past 12 months, as this is a definite well planned system, and Newport will be a pleasure again.
Let us hope so.
I cannot understand why people find something wrong with everything that is proposed for the good of the area.
Yes Newport is a dump NOW, but Cardiff was a dump 20 years ago and now it is one of the best cities in the UK.
Cardiff, including the Bay is a joy to visit, we must make Newport the same.
[quote][p][bold]John Frost Lives[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: I can see a number of problems such as poor vehicle access and parking. This helped kill off the hotel. It is also right in the middle of all the noisy clubs and bars and where the drunks hang out[/p][/quote]TBH Bob, this is exactly the point of all the redevelopment. If we improve the shopping experience first (tick next xmas), then we improve the eating/leisure experience (ditto) then it won't only be "drunks"' but families and such in Town, the same people who make other cities vibrant and use-able in the day and at night. The more people you can get to live in beautiful renovated buildings, the more the circle goes around...it is happening, and hats off to whoever got involved with newport council over the past 12 months, as this is a definite well planned system, and Newport will be a pleasure again.[/p][/quote]Let us hope so. I cannot understand why people find something wrong with everything that is proposed for the good of the area. Yes Newport is a dump NOW, but Cardiff was a dump 20 years ago and now it is one of the best cities in the UK. Cardiff, including the Bay is a joy to visit, we must make Newport the same. Cymru Am Beth
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5:18pm Tue 12 Aug 14

cymruamblyth says...

John Frost Lives wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
I can see a number of problems such as poor vehicle access and parking. This helped kill off the hotel. It is also right in the middle of all the noisy clubs and bars and where the drunks hang out
TBH Bob, this is exactly the point of all the redevelopment. If we improve the shopping experience first (tick next xmas), then we improve the eating/leisure experience (ditto) then it won't only be "drunks"' but families and such in Town, the same people who make other cities vibrant and use-able in the day and at night. The more people you can get to live in beautiful renovated buildings, the more the circle goes around...it is happening, and hats off to whoever got involved with newport council over the past 12 months, as this is a definite well planned system, and Newport will be a pleasure again.
Yeah because all the druggy's, drunks wino's and other assorted pond life will just disappear overnight..

You said the same thing with Admiral but Cambrian Road is still full of Drunken A-holes outside Breeze and Linkers screaming tirade's of mouthed abuse!

If they can't sell the buildings in Cardiff your just deluded if you think Newport will fair better
[quote][p][bold]John Frost Lives[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: I can see a number of problems such as poor vehicle access and parking. This helped kill off the hotel. It is also right in the middle of all the noisy clubs and bars and where the drunks hang out[/p][/quote]TBH Bob, this is exactly the point of all the redevelopment. If we improve the shopping experience first (tick next xmas), then we improve the eating/leisure experience (ditto) then it won't only be "drunks"' but families and such in Town, the same people who make other cities vibrant and use-able in the day and at night. The more people you can get to live in beautiful renovated buildings, the more the circle goes around...it is happening, and hats off to whoever got involved with newport council over the past 12 months, as this is a definite well planned system, and Newport will be a pleasure again.[/p][/quote]Yeah because all the druggy's, drunks wino's and other assorted pond life will just disappear overnight.. You said the same thing with Admiral but Cambrian Road is still full of Drunken A-holes outside Breeze and Linkers screaming tirade's of mouthed abuse! If they can't sell the buildings in Cardiff your just deluded if you think Newport will fair better cymruamblyth
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9:20am Wed 13 Aug 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

cymruamblyth wrote:
John Frost Lives wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
I can see a number of problems such as poor vehicle access and parking. This helped kill off the hotel. It is also right in the middle of all the noisy clubs and bars and where the drunks hang out
TBH Bob, this is exactly the point of all the redevelopment. If we improve the shopping experience first (tick next xmas), then we improve the eating/leisure experience (ditto) then it won't only be "drunks"' but families and such in Town, the same people who make other cities vibrant and use-able in the day and at night. The more people you can get to live in beautiful renovated buildings, the more the circle goes around...it is happening, and hats off to whoever got involved with newport council over the past 12 months, as this is a definite well planned system, and Newport will be a pleasure again.
Yeah because all the druggy's, drunks wino's and other assorted pond life will just disappear overnight..

You said the same thing with Admiral but Cambrian Road is still full of Drunken A-holes outside Breeze and Linkers screaming tirade's of mouthed abuse!

If they can't sell the buildings in Cardiff your just deluded if you think Newport will fair better
So your answer is to do nothing then?
Just leave everything as it is and it will continue in a downward spiral forever.
Nobody is saying that the pond life will disappear overnight, but I cannot imagine that 'the powers that be', (after pumping all this money in) are going to just let a few drunks ruin everything.
if their wish is to make the City 'family friendly' then they are going to have to deal with the problem and find a solution.
I just cannot get it in to my head why people are so dismissive of any initiative to improve the area.
Surely 'it is better to have tried and failed than not to have tried at all'.
These projects have to be undertaken in order to attract new investment into Newport.
It has no future if nothing is done and say what you like about Cardiff, but it is now one of the best Cities in the UK and that is more than you can say about Newport in its present state.
[quote][p][bold]cymruamblyth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]John Frost Lives[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: I can see a number of problems such as poor vehicle access and parking. This helped kill off the hotel. It is also right in the middle of all the noisy clubs and bars and where the drunks hang out[/p][/quote]TBH Bob, this is exactly the point of all the redevelopment. If we improve the shopping experience first (tick next xmas), then we improve the eating/leisure experience (ditto) then it won't only be "drunks"' but families and such in Town, the same people who make other cities vibrant and use-able in the day and at night. The more people you can get to live in beautiful renovated buildings, the more the circle goes around...it is happening, and hats off to whoever got involved with newport council over the past 12 months, as this is a definite well planned system, and Newport will be a pleasure again.[/p][/quote]Yeah because all the druggy's, drunks wino's and other assorted pond life will just disappear overnight.. You said the same thing with Admiral but Cambrian Road is still full of Drunken A-holes outside Breeze and Linkers screaming tirade's of mouthed abuse! If they can't sell the buildings in Cardiff your just deluded if you think Newport will fair better[/p][/quote]So your answer is to do nothing then? Just leave everything as it is and it will continue in a downward spiral forever. Nobody is saying that the pond life will disappear overnight, but I cannot imagine that 'the powers that be', (after pumping all this money in) are going to just let a few drunks ruin everything. if their wish is to make the City 'family friendly' then they are going to have to deal with the problem and find a solution. I just cannot get it in to my head why people are so dismissive of any initiative to improve the area. Surely 'it is better to have tried and failed than not to have tried at all'. These projects have to be undertaken in order to attract new investment into Newport. It has no future if nothing is done and say what you like about Cardiff, but it is now one of the best Cities in the UK and that is more than you can say about Newport in its present state. Cymru Am Beth
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