Feedback due on Newport Welsh school plan

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Duffryn High School, Newport - Scene of a stabbing. (8844078)

Photos Becky Matthews Words John 20.3.13 Duffryn High School, Newport - Scene of a stabbing. (8844078)

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GWENT councils are due to hear back from Welsh Government officials within the next fortnight over plans to build a new Welsh school on the site of an existing Newport secondary, the Argus understands.

Last month we revealed the scheme is finally taking shape after an outline proposal was submitted to Welsh Government to set up a Welsh school on the same site as Duffryn High School in Newport.

Campaigners have long warned that Gwent’s only Welsh-medium secondary school which accepts pupils from out of county, Ysgol Gyfun Gwynllyw in Pontypool, will be full by 2016 and have been calling on politicians for more than a year to name a new site.

A Newport council cabinet report published in the spring put forward three options, the first being to refurbish Duffryn High School in Newport and establish a separate Welsh school to share the same site, financed by Newport, Monmouthshire, Blaenau Gwent and Welsh Government.

The second was to find a site in Monmouthshire and bus Newport pupils to the north of Gwent, while the third option was to develop two sites, one in the north and another in the south, namely Newport.

The new build would provide “seedling provision” from September 2016 for around 70 to 80 pupils, rising to 500 by 2020, and 770 by 2021/22.

Despite the South East Wales Consortium initially backing the third option, the Argus reported last month that a strategic outline business case has been submitted to Welsh Government backing the Duffryn plan which involves “significant...capital investment for remodelling, refurbishing and extension” of the school.

If this is approved by Welsh Government, the consortia would then start work on a more detailed business case.

Monmouthshire’s 21st Century programme manager Simon Kneafsey said in a statement that they expected to hear by mid-August if the plan is accepted.

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8:07am Thu 14 Aug 14

varteg1 says...

More social divisioin, and more money spent on that useless lingo.
More social divisioin, and more money spent on that useless lingo. varteg1
  • Score: -10

9:06am Thu 14 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

The new build would provide “seedling provision” from September 2016 for around 70 to 80 pupils, rising to 500 by 2020, and 770 by 2021/22.

Huge demand eh? Not. And for that we blow millions more of taxpayer funds and god knows how much on having these gasbag public servants debate it. Remind me again how strapped for cash these councils are?
The new build would provide “seedling provision” from September 2016 for around 70 to 80 pupils, rising to 500 by 2020, and 770 by 2021/22. Huge demand eh? Not. And for that we blow millions more of taxpayer funds and god knows how much on having these gasbag public servants debate it. Remind me again how strapped for cash these councils are? Stevenboy
  • Score: -5

9:30am Thu 14 Aug 14

landyman3030 says...

This can only be a good thing for South Wales and Newport in particular.
It's about time there was money invested properly into the Welsh language instead of being wasted by the WAG.
Build it big enough to hold all current pupils who wish to enter into Welsh medium education and allow for the future if more wish to follow.
Fill it with the latest interactive white boards and technology so our children have a real chance at becoming properly educated in the 21st century instead of struggling along in 100 year old buildings with bolt on teaching aids that many of our children have to endure daily.
And once it is constructed, furnished and populated with our finest, we have an honest, factual debate with a referendum to decide if we wish to continue with the enforced teaching of Welsh in English medium schools which is proven time and again as not working and costing millions in wasted time and money teaching a language to many apathetic pupils who would do better having the main subjects bolstered as so many are failing even the basics in todays society. Let them CHOOSE to become bilingual in a European language so they may compete in our ever international society and workplace.
This is not an attack on Welsh culture because those parents who CHOOSE to have their children learn in Welsh may do so freely.
I'll still take my children to St. Fagans and Big Pit for culture if they are still open with the despicable cuts the WAG and the National museum are forcing on the workers across Wales.
Its about practical survival in todays real world.
Give them the new school and get them out of mainstream education so our kids can work on whats important.
This can only be a good thing for South Wales and Newport in particular. It's about time there was money invested properly into the Welsh language instead of being wasted by the WAG. Build it big enough to hold all current pupils who wish to enter into Welsh medium education and allow for the future if more wish to follow. Fill it with the latest interactive white boards and technology so our children have a real chance at becoming properly educated in the 21st century instead of struggling along in 100 year old buildings with bolt on teaching aids that many of our children have to endure daily. And once it is constructed, furnished and populated with our finest, we have an honest, factual debate with a referendum to decide if we wish to continue with the enforced teaching of Welsh in English medium schools which is proven time and again as not working and costing millions in wasted time and money teaching a language to many apathetic pupils who would do better having the main subjects bolstered as so many are failing even the basics in todays society. Let them CHOOSE to become bilingual in a European language so they may compete in our ever international society and workplace. This is not an attack on Welsh culture because those parents who CHOOSE to have their children learn in Welsh may do so freely. I'll still take my children to St. Fagans and Big Pit for culture if they are still open with the despicable cuts the WAG and the National museum are forcing on the workers across Wales. Its about practical survival in todays real world. Give them the new school and get them out of mainstream education so our kids can work on whats important. landyman3030
  • Score: 10

9:49am Thu 14 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

landyman3030 wrote:
This can only be a good thing for South Wales and Newport in particular.
It's about time there was money invested properly into the Welsh language instead of being wasted by the WAG.
Build it big enough to hold all current pupils who wish to enter into Welsh medium education and allow for the future if more wish to follow.
Fill it with the latest interactive white boards and technology so our children have a real chance at becoming properly educated in the 21st century instead of struggling along in 100 year old buildings with bolt on teaching aids that many of our children have to endure daily.
And once it is constructed, furnished and populated with our finest, we have an honest, factual debate with a referendum to decide if we wish to continue with the enforced teaching of Welsh in English medium schools which is proven time and again as not working and costing millions in wasted time and money teaching a language to many apathetic pupils who would do better having the main subjects bolstered as so many are failing even the basics in todays society. Let them CHOOSE to become bilingual in a European language so they may compete in our ever international society and workplace.
This is not an attack on Welsh culture because those parents who CHOOSE to have their children learn in Welsh may do so freely.
I'll still take my children to St. Fagans and Big Pit for culture if they are still open with the despicable cuts the WAG and the National museum are forcing on the workers across Wales.
Its about practical survival in todays real world.
Give them the new school and get them out of mainstream education so our kids can work on whats important.
Sorry. I normally agree with you but that's hideously naive. We will never be given the choice to opt our kids out of Welsh as a compulsory subject. If you haven't figured just how disproportionately powerful the tiny minority of Welsh obsessives are by now you never will. It's an industry. Politicians and civil servants profit hugely from it. Your logic is sunk. Even when the last 95 yr old surviving speaker in Anglesy is talking to himself in it they still be burning cash on it telling us how vital it is.
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: This can only be a good thing for South Wales and Newport in particular. It's about time there was money invested properly into the Welsh language instead of being wasted by the WAG. Build it big enough to hold all current pupils who wish to enter into Welsh medium education and allow for the future if more wish to follow. Fill it with the latest interactive white boards and technology so our children have a real chance at becoming properly educated in the 21st century instead of struggling along in 100 year old buildings with bolt on teaching aids that many of our children have to endure daily. And once it is constructed, furnished and populated with our finest, we have an honest, factual debate with a referendum to decide if we wish to continue with the enforced teaching of Welsh in English medium schools which is proven time and again as not working and costing millions in wasted time and money teaching a language to many apathetic pupils who would do better having the main subjects bolstered as so many are failing even the basics in todays society. Let them CHOOSE to become bilingual in a European language so they may compete in our ever international society and workplace. This is not an attack on Welsh culture because those parents who CHOOSE to have their children learn in Welsh may do so freely. I'll still take my children to St. Fagans and Big Pit for culture if they are still open with the despicable cuts the WAG and the National museum are forcing on the workers across Wales. Its about practical survival in todays real world. Give them the new school and get them out of mainstream education so our kids can work on whats important.[/p][/quote]Sorry. I normally agree with you but that's hideously naive. We will never be given the choice to opt our kids out of Welsh as a compulsory subject. If you haven't figured just how disproportionately powerful the tiny minority of Welsh obsessives are by now you never will. It's an industry. Politicians and civil servants profit hugely from it. Your logic is sunk. Even when the last 95 yr old surviving speaker in Anglesy is talking to himself in it they still be burning cash on it telling us how vital it is. Stevenboy
  • Score: -12

10:52am Thu 14 Aug 14

landyman3030 says...

Stevenboy wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
This can only be a good thing for South Wales and Newport in particular.
It's about time there was money invested properly into the Welsh language instead of being wasted by the WAG.
Build it big enough to hold all current pupils who wish to enter into Welsh medium education and allow for the future if more wish to follow.
Fill it with the latest interactive white boards and technology so our children have a real chance at becoming properly educated in the 21st century instead of struggling along in 100 year old buildings with bolt on teaching aids that many of our children have to endure daily.
And once it is constructed, furnished and populated with our finest, we have an honest, factual debate with a referendum to decide if we wish to continue with the enforced teaching of Welsh in English medium schools which is proven time and again as not working and costing millions in wasted time and money teaching a language to many apathetic pupils who would do better having the main subjects bolstered as so many are failing even the basics in todays society. Let them CHOOSE to become bilingual in a European language so they may compete in our ever international society and workplace.
This is not an attack on Welsh culture because those parents who CHOOSE to have their children learn in Welsh may do so freely.
I'll still take my children to St. Fagans and Big Pit for culture if they are still open with the despicable cuts the WAG and the National museum are forcing on the workers across Wales.
Its about practical survival in todays real world.
Give them the new school and get them out of mainstream education so our kids can work on whats important.
Sorry. I normally agree with you but that's hideously naive. We will never be given the choice to opt our kids out of Welsh as a compulsory subject. If you haven't figured just how disproportionately powerful the tiny minority of Welsh obsessives are by now you never will. It's an industry. Politicians and civil servants profit hugely from it. Your logic is sunk. Even when the last 95 yr old surviving speaker in Anglesy is talking to himself in it they still be burning cash on it telling us how vital it is.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. This post was meant as a bit tongue in cheek because it will never happen. The Welsh Language is an organisation self perpetuating the industry of The Welsh Language.
I just wanted to let the Welsh medium people be aware yet again that if they shout about the right to have welsh medium education, why shouldn't my children be offered the same choices.
[quote][p][bold]Stevenboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: This can only be a good thing for South Wales and Newport in particular. It's about time there was money invested properly into the Welsh language instead of being wasted by the WAG. Build it big enough to hold all current pupils who wish to enter into Welsh medium education and allow for the future if more wish to follow. Fill it with the latest interactive white boards and technology so our children have a real chance at becoming properly educated in the 21st century instead of struggling along in 100 year old buildings with bolt on teaching aids that many of our children have to endure daily. And once it is constructed, furnished and populated with our finest, we have an honest, factual debate with a referendum to decide if we wish to continue with the enforced teaching of Welsh in English medium schools which is proven time and again as not working and costing millions in wasted time and money teaching a language to many apathetic pupils who would do better having the main subjects bolstered as so many are failing even the basics in todays society. Let them CHOOSE to become bilingual in a European language so they may compete in our ever international society and workplace. This is not an attack on Welsh culture because those parents who CHOOSE to have their children learn in Welsh may do so freely. I'll still take my children to St. Fagans and Big Pit for culture if they are still open with the despicable cuts the WAG and the National museum are forcing on the workers across Wales. Its about practical survival in todays real world. Give them the new school and get them out of mainstream education so our kids can work on whats important.[/p][/quote]Sorry. I normally agree with you but that's hideously naive. We will never be given the choice to opt our kids out of Welsh as a compulsory subject. If you haven't figured just how disproportionately powerful the tiny minority of Welsh obsessives are by now you never will. It's an industry. Politicians and civil servants profit hugely from it. Your logic is sunk. Even when the last 95 yr old surviving speaker in Anglesy is talking to himself in it they still be burning cash on it telling us how vital it is.[/p][/quote]I agree with you wholeheartedly. This post was meant as a bit tongue in cheek because it will never happen. The Welsh Language is an organisation self perpetuating the industry of The Welsh Language. I just wanted to let the Welsh medium people be aware yet again that if they shout about the right to have welsh medium education, why shouldn't my children be offered the same choices. landyman3030
  • Score: -3

1:28pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Warbles says...

Bi/multilingualism is applauded in the rest of Europe; the earlier you pick up languages the easier they become to learn which can only help in the long term. Why are so many people here being so narrow minded?
Bi/multilingualism is applauded in the rest of Europe; the earlier you pick up languages the easier they become to learn which can only help in the long term. Why are so many people here being so narrow minded? Warbles
  • Score: 13

2:01pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

Warbles wrote:
Bi/multilingualism is applauded in the rest of Europe; the earlier you pick up languages the easier they become to learn which can only help in the long term. Why are so many people here being so narrow minded?
Great. So start by learning a useful one like French, Spanish or German, not some neolithic drivel like Welsh or Latin. The purpose of language is to help you communicate, that's why Europeans do it, so you can cross borders and work/integrate. You don't need Welsh to communicate anywhere, even in Wales.
[quote][p][bold]Warbles[/bold] wrote: Bi/multilingualism is applauded in the rest of Europe; the earlier you pick up languages the easier they become to learn which can only help in the long term. Why are so many people here being so narrow minded?[/p][/quote]Great. So start by learning a useful one like French, Spanish or German, not some neolithic drivel like Welsh or Latin. The purpose of language is to help you communicate, that's why Europeans do it, so you can cross borders and work/integrate. You don't need Welsh to communicate anywhere, even in Wales. Stevenboy
  • Score: -10

3:38pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Warbles says...

Stevenboy : don't get out and about much do you?
Stevenboy : don't get out and about much do you? Warbles
  • Score: 3

4:37pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Mr Miffed says...

Warbles wrote:
Stevenboy : don't get out and about much do you?
At least he fields something of a debate rather than resorting to one-liner troll style remarks. Any idiot can do that.
[quote][p][bold]Warbles[/bold] wrote: Stevenboy : don't get out and about much do you?[/p][/quote]At least he fields something of a debate rather than resorting to one-liner troll style remarks. Any idiot can do that. Mr Miffed
  • Score: -7

10:11pm Thu 14 Aug 14

landyman3030 says...

Lmao here. The Nationalists have had busy thumbs on the negative buttons tonight. Priceless.
One line trolling comments is pretty much all they have left.
This is not and never has been about being anti bilingualism.
This is about the forced education of an unwanted language in many English medium schools which is plainly not working after over a decade of over funded over enthused indoctrination.
In Europe many people are bilingual yes and converse in German, Polish, French or Spanish as well as English.
How do their schools manage to educate so many children to become FLUENT in so many languages whereas ours get SKILLS after several years of Welsh tuition which in many cases is never spoken outside the Welsh classroom, never spoken at home and DEFINITELY never used in the workplace.
One liners here we come....
Lmao here. The Nationalists have had busy thumbs on the negative buttons tonight. Priceless. One line trolling comments is pretty much all they have left. This is not and never has been about being anti bilingualism. This is about the forced education of an unwanted language in many English medium schools which is plainly not working after over a decade of over funded over enthused indoctrination. In Europe many people are bilingual yes and converse in German, Polish, French or Spanish as well as English. How do their schools manage to educate so many children to become FLUENT in so many languages whereas ours get SKILLS after several years of Welsh tuition which in many cases is never spoken outside the Welsh classroom, never spoken at home and DEFINITELY never used in the workplace. One liners here we come.... landyman3030
  • Score: -6

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