Traders' concern over Newport Nato protest

Shop owners along Commercial Street voice concerns about plans for proposed marches against NATO Summit this Saturday. Pictured is Asif Ashraf from the Top Image Baby and Nursery Wear shop. (9688274)

Shop owners along Commercial Street voice concerns about plans for proposed marches against NATO Summit this Saturday. Pictured is Susan Johnson Brown assistant manager of Scope. (9688295)

Shop owners along Commercial Street voice concerns about plans for proposed marches against NATO Summit this Saturday. Pictured is Piara Singh co owner of Marina's Babywear. (9688307)

Shop owners along Commercial Street voice concerns about plans for proposed marches against NATO Summit this Saturday. Pictured is Emma Rees manager of the shop Blue Banana. (9688317)

Shop owners along Commercial Street voice concerns about plans for proposed marches against NATO Summit this Saturday. Pictured is Diane Pring 69, from the womens wear shop Suit U. (9688352)

Shop owners along Commercial Street voice concerns about plans for proposed marches against NATO Summit this Saturday. Pictured is Emma Rees manager of the Blue Banana outside her shop on Commercial Street. (9688382)

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TRADERS in Newport city centre have said they are worried profits may fall by up to 90 per cent because of the anti-Nato protest march on Saturday.

Business owners on Commercial Street also said they feel they have been “left in the dark” over the plans for the No Nato Newport demonstration on August 30.

Asif Ashraf, manager of Top Image Nursery and Babywear, said: “It probably will affect us business-wise. Nobody will be coming in to the shop.”

The 40-year-old, who has worked in Newport for 24 years, said: “I’ll probably see about a 90 per cent drop in profits. Who’s going to want a pram while the protest it on?”

Saturday’s protest, organised by Stop the War and the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament, will see protestors march from the Civic Centre, over the Old Town Bridge and past the War Memorial in Clarence Place.

Demonstrators will then continue along Corporation Road, across George Street Bridge and then Commercial Road before ending in Westgate Square at around 4pm.

69-year-old Diane Pring, who works at clothes shop Suit U, said: “We get a lot of older customers who come into our shop, but they won’t bother on Saturday. They’ll most likely to go to Cwmbran instead.”

A spokeswoman for No Nato Newport, which is planning other protests throughout next week, said: “The 'Eve of Summit’ march will go through Newport City Centre led by delegations of trade unionists, anti-war veterans and peace activists from Germany, Belgium, Spain, Greece and elsewhere. We expect this to be massive."

Shoppers also said they were worried about visiting the city centre during the protest. Niamh Jones said: “I hope it’s not a violent protest. I’m worried for my granddad and have told him not to go to the betting shop. I don’t want him to get caught up in it.”

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6:43am Wed 27 Aug 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up.
Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up. GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: -43

7:14am Wed 27 Aug 14

Robodad says...

Well said Mushroom. How many other traders are rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of increased sales with protesters popping in for drinks, snacks, food etc. Swings and roundabouts.
Well said Mushroom. How many other traders are rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of increased sales with protesters popping in for drinks, snacks, food etc. Swings and roundabouts. Robodad
  • Score: -46

7:18am Wed 27 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

GardenVarietyMushroo
m
wrote:
Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up.
Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything.
[quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up.[/p][/quote]Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything. Stevenboy
  • Score: 69

8:09am Wed 27 Aug 14

sword of truth says...

Stevenboy says...

GardenVarietyMushroo

m wrote:
Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up.
Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything.


Yes they are.
They must use their moral conscience and democratic right to remove the power brokers and leaders, who 'represent us' perpetuating the evil, destructive policies, making us so loathed and targeted by so many.
Stevenboy says... GardenVarietyMushroo m wrote: Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up. Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything. Yes they are. They must use their moral conscience and democratic right to remove the power brokers and leaders, who 'represent us' perpetuating the evil, destructive policies, making us so loathed and targeted by so many. sword of truth
  • Score: -48

8:24am Wed 27 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

Hmmm... on the other hand, the protests could be good news for anyone trading in Che Guevara T-Shirts or even flags of the world to burn. Can't see how this would create a market for prams on the day, though - not unless the comrade protestors get the sudden urge to re-enact Eisenstein's Battleship Potemkin:)
Hmmm... on the other hand, the protests could be good news for anyone trading in Che Guevara T-Shirts or even flags of the world to burn. Can't see how this would create a market for prams on the day, though - not unless the comrade protestors get the sudden urge to re-enact Eisenstein's Battleship Potemkin:) Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 18

8:43am Wed 27 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

sword of truth wrote:
Stevenboy says...

GardenVarietyMushroo


m wrote:
Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up.
Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything.


Yes they are.
They must use their moral conscience and democratic right to remove the power brokers and leaders, who 'represent us' perpetuating the evil, destructive policies, making us so loathed and targeted by so many.
And you think anyone who witnesses this ranting bunch of self-righteous crusties is going to be pursuaded? I suspect that the PR war will be won elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]sword of truth[/bold] wrote: Stevenboy says... GardenVarietyMushroo m wrote: Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up. Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything. Yes they are. They must use their moral conscience and democratic right to remove the power brokers and leaders, who 'represent us' perpetuating the evil, destructive policies, making us so loathed and targeted by so many.[/p][/quote]And you think anyone who witnesses this ranting bunch of self-righteous crusties is going to be pursuaded? I suspect that the PR war will be won elsewhere. Stevenboy
  • Score: 22

8:48am Wed 27 Aug 14

mikewelsh says...

It wasnt' so long ago the Traders were complaining about the Buses and lack of Foot traffic in the Town centre. ! Ha, cant win.

Dont worry. The voice of the Market Traders will get you compensated.
It wasnt' so long ago the Traders were complaining about the Buses and lack of Foot traffic in the Town centre. ! Ha, cant win. Dont worry. The voice of the Market Traders will get you compensated. mikewelsh
  • Score: -5

9:34am Wed 27 Aug 14

Practicalmickey says...

sword of truth wrote:
Stevenboy says...

GardenVarietyMushroo


m wrote:
Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up.
Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything.


Yes they are.
They must use their moral conscience and democratic right to remove the power brokers and leaders, who 'represent us' perpetuating the evil, destructive policies, making us so loathed and targeted by so many.
Loathed and targeted? Do you honestly believe if NATO didn't exist it would be better? On the contrary I believe it would be much worse. Regardless of your negative opinion and comments I Believe NATO is great collaboration and can only improve life for its member countries.
[quote][p][bold]sword of truth[/bold] wrote: Stevenboy says... GardenVarietyMushroo m wrote: Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up. Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything. Yes they are. They must use their moral conscience and democratic right to remove the power brokers and leaders, who 'represent us' perpetuating the evil, destructive policies, making us so loathed and targeted by so many.[/p][/quote]Loathed and targeted? Do you honestly believe if NATO didn't exist it would be better? On the contrary I believe it would be much worse. Regardless of your negative opinion and comments I Believe NATO is great collaboration and can only improve life for its member countries. Practicalmickey
  • Score: 38

10:06am Wed 27 Aug 14

arjwain says...

some will make profits . some will think of compensation for loss of it .
but i can only see shops making a good profit during the nato .its the band you're in maybe people might not be thinking of buying a pram .but im sure they will be back once its over . so chill .
some will make profits . some will think of compensation for loss of it . but i can only see shops making a good profit during the nato .its the band you're in maybe people might not be thinking of buying a pram .but im sure they will be back once its over . so chill . arjwain
  • Score: 4

10:20am Wed 27 Aug 14

inkyskin says...

why is it only the shops from the one end of town are complaining? The march will all be over within a few minutes once they've past , if the protesters are thirsty and want to go into a shop for a drink will they be refused as they're bad for business?
why is it only the shops from the one end of town are complaining? The march will all be over within a few minutes once they've past , if the protesters are thirsty and want to go into a shop for a drink will they be refused as they're bad for business? inkyskin
  • Score: 9

11:17am Wed 27 Aug 14

Mervyn James says...

Stevenboy wrote:
GardenVarietyMushroo

m
wrote:
Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up.
Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything.
Had a ban not been made for them at Celtic Manor they wouldn't be in the high street. And the NATO rabble won't be there until next week.
[quote][p][bold]Stevenboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up.[/p][/quote]Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything.[/p][/quote]Had a ban not been made for them at Celtic Manor they wouldn't be in the high street. And the NATO rabble won't be there until next week. Mervyn James
  • Score: -13

12:38pm Wed 27 Aug 14

DGee123 says...

sword of truth wrote:
Stevenboy says...

GardenVarietyMushroo


m wrote:
Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up.
Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything.


Yes they are.
They must use their moral conscience and democratic right to remove the power brokers and leaders, who 'represent us' perpetuating the evil, destructive policies, making us so loathed and targeted by so many.
"They MUST use their moral conscience and democratic right TO REMOVE THE POWER BROKERS AND LEADERS...."

...and getting their stuff smashed up is the price they pay for not bowing to your wishes and voting how you see fit? Interesting definition of democracy you have there, "sword of truth"

(Is that what your mum calls you, btw?)
[quote][p][bold]sword of truth[/bold] wrote: Stevenboy says... GardenVarietyMushroo m wrote: Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up. Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything. Yes they are. They must use their moral conscience and democratic right to remove the power brokers and leaders, who 'represent us' perpetuating the evil, destructive policies, making us so loathed and targeted by so many.[/p][/quote]"They MUST use their moral conscience and democratic right TO REMOVE THE POWER BROKERS AND LEADERS...." ...and getting their stuff smashed up is the price they pay for not bowing to your wishes and voting how you see fit? Interesting definition of democracy you have there, "sword of truth" (Is that what your mum calls you, btw?) DGee123
  • Score: 10

1:03pm Wed 27 Aug 14

GogExile says...

DGee123 wrote:
sword of truth wrote:
Stevenboy says...

GardenVarietyMushroo



m wrote:
Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up.
Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything.


Yes they are.
They must use their moral conscience and democratic right to remove the power brokers and leaders, who 'represent us' perpetuating the evil, destructive policies, making us so loathed and targeted by so many.
"They MUST use their moral conscience and democratic right TO REMOVE THE POWER BROKERS AND LEADERS...."

...and getting their stuff smashed up is the price they pay for not bowing to your wishes and voting how you see fit? Interesting definition of democracy you have there, "sword of truth"

(Is that what your mum calls you, btw?)
Sword of Truth. Have you perhaps countenanced the idea that not everyone agrees with you? Perhaps they've used their 'moral conscience and democratic right' to prove their point?
[quote][p][bold]DGee123[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sword of truth[/bold] wrote: Stevenboy says... GardenVarietyMushroo m wrote: Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up. Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything. Yes they are. They must use their moral conscience and democratic right to remove the power brokers and leaders, who 'represent us' perpetuating the evil, destructive policies, making us so loathed and targeted by so many.[/p][/quote]"They MUST use their moral conscience and democratic right TO REMOVE THE POWER BROKERS AND LEADERS...." ...and getting their stuff smashed up is the price they pay for not bowing to your wishes and voting how you see fit? Interesting definition of democracy you have there, "sword of truth" (Is that what your mum calls you, btw?)[/p][/quote]Sword of Truth. Have you perhaps countenanced the idea that not everyone agrees with you? Perhaps they've used their 'moral conscience and democratic right' to prove their point? GogExile
  • Score: 8

1:18pm Wed 27 Aug 14

10101010 says...

I can see it now, 60 world leaders watching Wales Tonight and being really upset by the idiots that think the world would be a better place without them. FFS get a grip and get a life! I for one would rather live in a world where the leaders of different countries at least try to sit around a table and sort out their differences, and discuss a way forward, rather than the free for all that would happen without them.
I can see it now, 60 world leaders watching Wales Tonight and being really upset by the idiots that think the world would be a better place without them. FFS get a grip and get a life! I for one would rather live in a world where the leaders of different countries at least try to sit around a table and sort out their differences, and discuss a way forward, rather than the free for all that would happen without them. 10101010
  • Score: 27

1:32pm Wed 27 Aug 14

The Destroyer says...

10101010 wrote:
I can see it now, 60 world leaders watching Wales Tonight and being really upset by the idiots that think the world would be a better place without them. FFS get a grip and get a life! I for one would rather live in a world where the leaders of different countries at least try to sit around a table and sort out their differences, and discuss a way forward, rather than the free for all that would happen without them.
They will probably be smiling to themselves, because they know what the world would be like without them.
[quote][p][bold]10101010[/bold] wrote: I can see it now, 60 world leaders watching Wales Tonight and being really upset by the idiots that think the world would be a better place without them. FFS get a grip and get a life! I for one would rather live in a world where the leaders of different countries at least try to sit around a table and sort out their differences, and discuss a way forward, rather than the free for all that would happen without them.[/p][/quote]They will probably be smiling to themselves, because they know what the world would be like without them. The Destroyer
  • Score: -8

1:44pm Wed 27 Aug 14

AmoreVitaRisata says...

It makes me laugh how people are protesting against NATO. What do you people want? Another hitler? Another saddam Husain? Get a clue about what you're protesting about! You obviously haven't learnt a thing from history!
It makes me laugh how people are protesting against NATO. What do you people want? Another hitler? Another saddam Husain? Get a clue about what you're protesting about! You obviously haven't learnt a thing from history! AmoreVitaRisata
  • Score: 22

2:59pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

AmoreVitaRisata wrote:
It makes me laugh how people are protesting against NATO. What do you people want? Another hitler? Another saddam Husain? Get a clue about what you're protesting about! You obviously haven't learnt a thing from history!
It's organised by Stop the War (Vietnam? Iraq? Great War? Capitalist War, i.e. when the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were allies?) and the Campaign for Unilateral Western Nuclear Disarmament, so I guess they're some form of degraded Living History. But It will be nice when they tire of the sound of their own voices.
[quote][p][bold]AmoreVitaRisata[/bold] wrote: It makes me laugh how people are protesting against NATO. What do you people want? Another hitler? Another saddam Husain? Get a clue about what you're protesting about! You obviously haven't learnt a thing from history![/p][/quote]It's organised by Stop the War (Vietnam? Iraq? Great War? Capitalist War, i.e. when the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were allies?) and the Campaign for Unilateral Western Nuclear Disarmament, so I guess they're some form of degraded Living History. But It will be nice when they tire of the sound of their own voices. Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: 10

3:03pm Wed 27 Aug 14

mrleebob says...

Boo F'ing hoo.
Boo F'ing hoo. mrleebob
  • Score: -6

4:51pm Wed 27 Aug 14

DavidMclean says...

Ironically, it will be the protesters spending money in local shops. The NATO party and attending journos certainly won't be. 3 out of 4 of the 1500 rooms booked for registered journos will in Cardiff, and the only reason for them to come into the Port is to cover any protests.

Apart from that small compensation for a few local businesses, I can't see how the Summit is going to deliver on any fanciful promises of 'opportunity' for Newport.
Ironically, it will be the protesters spending money in local shops. The NATO party and attending journos certainly won't be. 3 out of 4 of the 1500 rooms booked for registered journos will in Cardiff, and the only reason for them to come into the Port is to cover any protests. Apart from that small compensation for a few local businesses, I can't see how the Summit is going to deliver on any fanciful promises of 'opportunity' for Newport. DavidMclean
  • Score: 2

5:01pm Wed 27 Aug 14

DavidMclean says...

For the record, I don't have a strong opinion of the NATO organisation either way, so am certainly not interested in any idea of protesting. I just think hosting the expensive, inconvenient and disruptive Summit in our city at a crucial time when they are trying to embark on regeneration is foolish. We can't afford it on any level.

We are the smallest city EVER to have hosted the Summit and we do not have the experience, infrastructure or money to cope. It is proving a major headache for a LOT of people and businesses, and I don't see that we will ever have a return on our enforced investment.

A raised profile for Newport? Big deal! Like business and tourism is going to explode simply because the Newport name is a bit better known. It takes more than simply having your name in the news to achieve that. Even the idea of raised profile is looking dubious with the media increasingly referring to Cardiff.

As I've said all along, what we are looking at here is the Andy Murray Syndrome. If the event is a success it will be the NATO Summit Wales or NATO Summit Cardiff, and if it is a nightmare it will be the Newport Riots.
For the record, I don't have a strong opinion of the NATO organisation either way, so am certainly not interested in any idea of protesting. I just think hosting the expensive, inconvenient and disruptive Summit in our city at a crucial time when they are trying to embark on regeneration is foolish. We can't afford it on any level. We are the smallest city EVER to have hosted the Summit and we do not have the experience, infrastructure or money to cope. It is proving a major headache for a LOT of people and businesses, and I don't see that we will ever have a return on our enforced investment. A raised profile for Newport? Big deal! Like business and tourism is going to explode simply because the Newport name is a bit better known. It takes more than simply having your name in the news to achieve that. Even the idea of raised profile is looking dubious with the media increasingly referring to Cardiff. As I've said all along, what we are looking at here is the Andy Murray Syndrome. If the event is a success it will be the NATO Summit Wales or NATO Summit Cardiff, and if it is a nightmare it will be the Newport Riots. DavidMclean
  • Score: 8

5:46pm Wed 27 Aug 14

mikewelsh says...

Simple.
If theres more than two gathering, the Town Centre Rangers, warn them to move on, if they dont its an on the spot fine and a escort out of town.
Job done.
Next.
Simple. If theres more than two gathering, the Town Centre Rangers, warn them to move on, if they dont its an on the spot fine and a escort out of town. Job done. Next. mikewelsh
  • Score: 7

6:40pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Mumbojumbojet says...

I don't know what Blue Banana are worried about—Saturday will be their busiest day ever. There will be a queue of scruffy layabouts a mile long wanting to buy extra large cigarette papers after a hard day's jumping on the bandwagon.
I don't know what Blue Banana are worried about—Saturday will be their busiest day ever. There will be a queue of scruffy layabouts a mile long wanting to buy extra large cigarette papers after a hard day's jumping on the bandwagon. Mumbojumbojet
  • Score: 11

7:27pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Mike Bates says...

I would suggest some of you do your homework and look at the state Chicago was in at the 2012 so called NATO peace march. If it kicks off like that I doubt the corner shops will want to open to sell a can of Coke and a Mars bar. Just search for it on YouTube
I would suggest some of you do your homework and look at the state Chicago was in at the 2012 so called NATO peace march. If it kicks off like that I doubt the corner shops will want to open to sell a can of Coke and a Mars bar. Just search for it on YouTube Mike Bates
  • Score: 5

7:54pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Mervyn James says...

The Destroyer wrote:
10101010 wrote:
I can see it now, 60 world leaders watching Wales Tonight and being really upset by the idiots that think the world would be a better place without them. FFS get a grip and get a life! I for one would rather live in a world where the leaders of different countries at least try to sit around a table and sort out their differences, and discuss a way forward, rather than the free for all that would happen without them.
They will probably be smiling to themselves, because they know what the world would be like without them.
A damned sight safer ! Old **** start wars our young people have to finish them. They already said Newport was a nightmare to make safe for NATO meetings, so why hold it here ? the meeting won't host ISIS or Hamas,and at some point we will HAVE to talk to these nutters, since bombing the sh*t out of them every other year doesn't seem to be any answer. It's probably time we left the middle east to kill each other off, the answer lies with them. We don't want another Iraq or another Afghanistan, both were spectacular failures, and in Iraq's case Saddam should have been left there, takes one loony to control others. ISIS would not be there if he still was.
[quote][p][bold]The Destroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]10101010[/bold] wrote: I can see it now, 60 world leaders watching Wales Tonight and being really upset by the idiots that think the world would be a better place without them. FFS get a grip and get a life! I for one would rather live in a world where the leaders of different countries at least try to sit around a table and sort out their differences, and discuss a way forward, rather than the free for all that would happen without them.[/p][/quote]They will probably be smiling to themselves, because they know what the world would be like without them.[/p][/quote]A damned sight safer ! Old **** start wars our young people have to finish them. They already said Newport was a nightmare to make safe for NATO meetings, so why hold it here ? the meeting won't host ISIS or Hamas,and at some point we will HAVE to talk to these nutters, since bombing the sh*t out of them every other year doesn't seem to be any answer. It's probably time we left the middle east to kill each other off, the answer lies with them. We don't want another Iraq or another Afghanistan, both were spectacular failures, and in Iraq's case Saddam should have been left there, takes one loony to control others. ISIS would not be there if he still was. Mervyn James
  • Score: 2

8:43pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Dave on his Soapbox says...

It's not just the marches that are going to reduce foot fall..... there are many workers being asked or deciding to take leave or work from home.... over the next fortnight.
Along with the potential for terrorist attacks...particular
ly on public transport... like London's 7/7.... it's no wonder the city centre will be bereft of local people.
It's not just the marches that are going to reduce foot fall..... there are many workers being asked or deciding to take leave or work from home.... over the next fortnight. Along with the potential for terrorist attacks...particular ly on public transport... like London's 7/7.... it's no wonder the city centre will be bereft of local people. Dave on his Soapbox
  • Score: 4

8:51pm Wed 27 Aug 14

pigbag says...

I my self have spent the last few weeks rounding up stray dogs,
I've spray painted em with Palestinian flags,and attached them to bits of string,
I'll be selling em out side body shop for a tenner a dog,
Jobs a good un...
I my self have spent the last few weeks rounding up stray dogs, I've spray painted em with Palestinian flags,and attached them to bits of string, I'll be selling em out side body shop for a tenner a dog, Jobs a good un... pigbag
  • Score: 1

9:01pm Wed 27 Aug 14

artsfan says...

Lots of people blaming protestors for violence and damage that hasn't even happened yet and might not. Just remember that if it wasn't for the NATO Summit coming here, then nobody would have to worry about it. Get it right. Blame NATO, blame the UK government, blame the Welsh Assembly. Blame Canadian Terry Matthews who'll continue laughing all the way to the bank, not only making loads of dosh from constant government handouts but also from this summit. I wonder how many of his staff on minimum wage have to rely on government handouts just to survive.
Lots of people blaming protestors for violence and damage that hasn't even happened yet and might not. Just remember that if it wasn't for the NATO Summit coming here, then nobody would have to worry about it. Get it right. Blame NATO, blame the UK government, blame the Welsh Assembly. Blame Canadian Terry Matthews who'll continue laughing all the way to the bank, not only making loads of dosh from constant government handouts but also from this summit. I wonder how many of his staff on minimum wage have to rely on government handouts just to survive. artsfan
  • Score: -8

9:54pm Wed 27 Aug 14

sword of truth says...

GogExile says...


DGee123 wrote:

sword of truth wrote:
Stevenboy says...

GardenVarietyMushroo




m wrote:
Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up.
Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything.


Yes they are.
They must use their moral conscience and democratic right to remove the power brokers and leaders, who 'represent us' perpetuating the evil, destructive policies, making us so loathed and targeted by so many.
"They MUST use their moral conscience and democratic right TO REMOVE THE POWER BROKERS AND LEADERS...."

...and getting their stuff smashed up is the price they pay for not bowing to your wishes and voting how you see fit? Interesting definition of democracy you have there, "sword of truth"

(Is that what your mum calls you, btw?)Sword of Truth. Have you perhaps countenanced the idea that not everyone agrees with you? Perhaps they've used their 'moral conscience and democratic right' to prove their point?

Well, yes I have GogE.
In this imperfect world, with right and wrong so often blurred in peoples minds, which are hugely influenced by Government controlled media/propaganda. I firmly believe that the wind of change is coming - hang on, I think I've heard this expression before?
BTW DeeG, my Mam called me Kevin Davies - ex British Armed Forces, or a very naughty boy, when I fancied myself as the son of God.
Can't believe there are so many armchair xenophobes posting on here.
Most of you havn't seen any life beyond your local curry restaurant I'm guessing. If you had, you might realise the wasted opportunities in trade and friendships that could be gained if you opened your minds, threw away your emergency toilet paper(sun/mail), and embraced other cultures, religions and people.
No, why not stick to type? Draw up your NATO wagon train into it's defensive circle and hope that the US Cavalry is along soon to kick some more AR*E and make us all more insecure.
See ya'll at the No To NATO protests - without the shop smashing etc
GogExile says... DGee123 wrote: sword of truth wrote: Stevenboy says... GardenVarietyMushroo m wrote: Well unfortunately for the almighty traders, the streets belong to everyone, not just them - so suck it up. Have you not noticed GVM, that the target of demonstrations are always the least affected by them? The people getting their property and cars vandalised in London for the student fee protests were shop owners and motorists not the politicians who raised the fees. The traders you want to 'suck it up' are not able to change anything. Yes they are. They must use their moral conscience and democratic right to remove the power brokers and leaders, who 'represent us' perpetuating the evil, destructive policies, making us so loathed and targeted by so many. "They MUST use their moral conscience and democratic right TO REMOVE THE POWER BROKERS AND LEADERS...." ...and getting their stuff smashed up is the price they pay for not bowing to your wishes and voting how you see fit? Interesting definition of democracy you have there, "sword of truth" (Is that what your mum calls you, btw?)Sword of Truth. Have you perhaps countenanced the idea that not everyone agrees with you? Perhaps they've used their 'moral conscience and democratic right' to prove their point? Well, yes I have GogE. In this imperfect world, with right and wrong so often blurred in peoples minds, which are hugely influenced by Government controlled media/propaganda. I firmly believe that the wind of change is coming - hang on, I think I've heard this expression before? BTW DeeG, my Mam called me Kevin Davies - ex British Armed Forces, or a very naughty boy, when I fancied myself as the son of God. Can't believe there are so many armchair xenophobes posting on here. Most of you havn't seen any life beyond your local curry restaurant I'm guessing. If you had, you might realise the wasted opportunities in trade and friendships that could be gained if you opened your minds, threw away your emergency toilet paper(sun/mail), and embraced other cultures, religions and people. No, why not stick to type? Draw up your NATO wagon train into it's defensive circle and hope that the US Cavalry is along soon to kick some more AR*E and make us all more insecure. See ya'll at the No To NATO protests - without the shop smashing etc sword of truth
  • Score: -7

10:00pm Wed 27 Aug 14

DaiFrank says...

It's a very poor piece of 'journalism' if you can call it that and I have enough experience of this having taught journalism in various universities for years. It's disgracefully conservative and reactionary. If the editor has any sense of morality he'll send his office type 'journalists' down to the march and get their hands dirty. Demonstrating is an essential part of our democracy fought for by workers, so report their story because if journalism doesn't who will? Of course it wasn't that long ago that the editor admitted to 'learning something' at a conference on media ethics, a subject I teach and write on. I invited him for a chat, something he rejected, probably because his bosses prefer profit over ethics and he's too weak to challenge them. My message to the people who march is to bypass the mainstream press and shoot straight to social media because overall the mainstream are a reactionary bunch.
It's a very poor piece of 'journalism' if you can call it that and I have enough experience of this having taught journalism in various universities for years. It's disgracefully conservative and reactionary. If the editor has any sense of morality he'll send his office type 'journalists' down to the march and get their hands dirty. Demonstrating is an essential part of our democracy fought for by workers, so report their story because if journalism doesn't who will? Of course it wasn't that long ago that the editor admitted to 'learning something' at a conference on media ethics, a subject I teach and write on. I invited him for a chat, something he rejected, probably because his bosses prefer profit over ethics and he's too weak to challenge them. My message to the people who march is to bypass the mainstream press and shoot straight to social media because overall the mainstream are a reactionary bunch. DaiFrank
  • Score: -3

10:21pm Wed 27 Aug 14

mikewelsh says...

Trade will be up for the pickpockets.
Trade will be up for the pickpockets. mikewelsh
  • Score: 1

9:26am Thu 28 Aug 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

DaiFrank wrote:
It's a very poor piece of 'journalism' if you can call it that and I have enough experience of this having taught journalism in various universities for years. It's disgracefully conservative and reactionary. If the editor has any sense of morality he'll send his office type 'journalists' down to the march and get their hands dirty. Demonstrating is an essential part of our democracy fought for by workers, so report their story because if journalism doesn't who will? Of course it wasn't that long ago that the editor admitted to 'learning something' at a conference on media ethics, a subject I teach and write on. I invited him for a chat, something he rejected, probably because his bosses prefer profit over ethics and he's too weak to challenge them. My message to the people who march is to bypass the mainstream press and shoot straight to social media because overall the mainstream are a reactionary bunch.
Your version of "ethics" must be absolutely fascinating. Can communism and ethics co-exist? Please don't say we taxpayers pay you to teach the "ethics" of Pravda, Izvestia and Granma
[quote][p][bold]DaiFrank[/bold] wrote: It's a very poor piece of 'journalism' if you can call it that and I have enough experience of this having taught journalism in various universities for years. It's disgracefully conservative and reactionary. If the editor has any sense of morality he'll send his office type 'journalists' down to the march and get their hands dirty. Demonstrating is an essential part of our democracy fought for by workers, so report their story because if journalism doesn't who will? Of course it wasn't that long ago that the editor admitted to 'learning something' at a conference on media ethics, a subject I teach and write on. I invited him for a chat, something he rejected, probably because his bosses prefer profit over ethics and he's too weak to challenge them. My message to the people who march is to bypass the mainstream press and shoot straight to social media because overall the mainstream are a reactionary bunch.[/p][/quote]Your version of "ethics" must be absolutely fascinating. Can communism and ethics co-exist? Please don't say we taxpayers pay you to teach the "ethics" of Pravda, Izvestia and Granma Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: 0

12:30pm Thu 28 Aug 14

JanJenkins says...

inkyskin wrote:
why is it only the shops from the one end of town are complaining? The march will all be over within a few minutes once they've past , if the protesters are thirsty and want to go into a shop for a drink will they be refused as they're bad for business?
There isn't any shops at the other end,
They have all closed or moved to Spytty Rd., Marks and Spencers , Next, Burtons, gone,, Shoe-shops gone, Computers shop gone, the list goes on. and where you expect to get your drinks will have to inhabit the pub. Though there are plenty of Charity 2nd hand clothes shops, and pawn-brokers . So the protesters should be able to cash their giros, get blind drunk and get their weekend protest outfit. Have fun.
[quote][p][bold]inkyskin[/bold] wrote: why is it only the shops from the one end of town are complaining? The march will all be over within a few minutes once they've past , if the protesters are thirsty and want to go into a shop for a drink will they be refused as they're bad for business?[/p][/quote]There isn't any shops at the other end, They have all closed or moved to Spytty Rd., Marks and Spencers , Next, Burtons, gone,, Shoe-shops gone, Computers shop gone, the list goes on. and where you expect to get your drinks will have to inhabit the pub. Though there are plenty of Charity 2nd hand clothes shops, and pawn-brokers . So the protesters should be able to cash their giros, get blind drunk and get their weekend protest outfit. Have fun. JanJenkins
  • Score: -2

12:43pm Thu 28 Aug 14

JanJenkins says...

artsfan wrote:
Lots of people blaming protestors for violence and damage that hasn't even happened yet and might not. Just remember that if it wasn't for the NATO Summit coming here, then nobody would have to worry about it. Get it right. Blame NATO, blame the UK government, blame the Welsh Assembly. Blame Canadian Terry Matthews who'll continue laughing all the way to the bank, not only making loads of dosh from constant government handouts but also from this summit. I wonder how many of his staff on minimum wage have to rely on government handouts just to survive.
Nearly all of his staff. are on minimum wage, with 3 1/2 mins. to clean a bedroom. Have a look at the visitors comments that have stayed at the Celtic Manor. If it was my Hotel I would be very embarrassed the reports claim its worn out and shabby and the service is terrible, and run by
6th- formers
I wouldn't stay there.
[quote][p][bold]artsfan[/bold] wrote: Lots of people blaming protestors for violence and damage that hasn't even happened yet and might not. Just remember that if it wasn't for the NATO Summit coming here, then nobody would have to worry about it. Get it right. Blame NATO, blame the UK government, blame the Welsh Assembly. Blame Canadian Terry Matthews who'll continue laughing all the way to the bank, not only making loads of dosh from constant government handouts but also from this summit. I wonder how many of his staff on minimum wage have to rely on government handouts just to survive.[/p][/quote]Nearly all of his staff. are on minimum wage, with 3 1/2 mins. to clean a bedroom. Have a look at the visitors comments that have stayed at the Celtic Manor. If it was my Hotel I would be very embarrassed the reports claim its worn out and shabby and the service is terrible, and run by 6th- formers I wouldn't stay there. JanJenkins
  • Score: -1

4:39pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Independentvoter says...

I thought that most of these unemployed protesters were supposed to be actively seeking work for their benefits not marching against NATO I hope the DWP are filming them !
I thought that most of these unemployed protesters were supposed to be actively seeking work for their benefits not marching against NATO I hope the DWP are filming them ! Independentvoter
  • Score: -2

11:58am Fri 29 Aug 14

Orsemess says...

This piece was about the effect on Newport traders - it's turned into a rant about NATO and The Celtic Manor.

So, 'almighty traders' is it? The businesses that exist because they sell things people want to buy. The traders who pay rent, rates and staff wages for six days of the week but have their best trading day on a Saturday. And is it just city centre traders who are nasty and exploiting, or does it include all traders who sell the things you need to survive? There's a profit on everything from your tea bag to your T-shirt. That's life - get real.

If, God forbid, there is damage to property it is the 'almighty traders' who will suffer as potential customers are deterred by the broken windows and boarded-up shop fronts.

And by the way -

Oxford English Dictionary.
Mushroom: Noun. A fungal growth.
This piece was about the effect on Newport traders - it's turned into a rant about NATO and The Celtic Manor. So, 'almighty traders' is it? The businesses that exist because they sell things people want to buy. The traders who pay rent, rates and staff wages for six days of the week but have their best trading day on a Saturday. And is it just city centre traders who are nasty and exploiting, or does it include all traders who sell the things you need to survive? There's a profit on everything from your tea bag to your T-shirt. That's life - get real. If, God forbid, there is damage to property it is the 'almighty traders' who will suffer as potential customers are deterred by the broken windows and boarded-up shop fronts. And by the way - Oxford English Dictionary. Mushroom: Noun. A fungal growth. Orsemess
  • Score: -1
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