Councillor's concern on ex-chapel's war memorial (From South Wales Argus)

"Cllr Davies said he is against the removal of the war memorial and it is important this is kept.

He said there are other chapels and other places in the city where the memorial could be moved to. "

I've read this three times and I still don't understand. He's against the removal but says there are places that it could be moved too?

The planning recommendations already say that the fixtures "must be stored within the building until a detailed scheme for their reuse has been agreed"

Headline surely should have read "Councillor's concerns ... already addressed in planning conditions."

Part of the continuing colonisation of the UK. Islam is not a religion of peace. It is an ideology that has a totalitarian mandate, similar to communism. It does not allow the equality of religions and ideas that we have fought for. It is frightening that as we move further into the 21st century, we are moving away from a rational society based upon firm principles of equality and secularism. We will find ourselves living under the rules of an ideology based upon theories developed in the 7th century. This is not a comment on people of a different skin colour but an honest opinion regarding the dangers that unquestioning faith will bring.

The building was used as a church for 149 years until August 2007 when they sold it off.

Selling off churches or any other religious buildings is SACRILEGE.

This country has nothing to be proud of - no values, no respect, and soon, no history

GREAT BRITAIN my arse

what was the point of king richard fighting saladin and all his hordes if now we are giving them everything they want and are allowing them to take over our society.

call it what you like. a person who goes to church is a rare breed indeed. no donations + no up keep = no church. simple most people would rather go to the pub or should i say save the pub!

To STUCK.
Your comments are spot on.

Thank you for support. The fact that more and more churches are closing was evidence of the UK turning away from religious dogma and superstitious belief, instead choosing a future based on logic, evidence and a positive regard for all elements of humanity. A correlation is visible between a nations lower belief levels and a higher standard of living. The more people who freely chose to not to live with a God, the more likely it is that the age of mortality will rise and incidences of morbity will decrease. The rise of the mosque is a portent of a return to persecution based upon nothing more than a book written about 1400 years ago. For example, I chose to not believe in God, my family and friends do not see this as a big deal. However there is many examples of a Muslim, choosing after careful thought and consideration, to reject the indoctrination of their youth and make a personal choice to live life free of the influence of the Iman, being persecuted, ostracized and murdered. Therefore a mosque represents a symbol of intolerence, superiority and control.

Part 2 represents the closure of the Pub. The pub is a symbol of Britishness. This stems from the northern european drinking hall culture that is evident amongst our geographical and ancestral neighbours ie Holland, Germany, Denmark etc. The fact that British people will, on the whole, work very hard all week and then go out and have a good drink on the weekend is a source of mystery to those whose cultural heritage is not one based in Northern Europe. Consequently, the closure of the pub is again evidence of a shift in the cultural make up of the UK. The British Empire, whatever you think of it, was built by British people whilst half cut. The fact that we controlled a quarter of the world and still went out on the weekend, dancing and drinking is a source of smug satisfaction for me. To conclude I am proud of being British, I am proud that my forefathers stood up to fascism, alone in the world and said no. I am proud that whilst other nations joined the side of fascism, we stood at the forefront of the effort to drive it out of Europe. However, the influx of Islam, should act as a clarion call to the decent members of society, not the racists or fundamentalist christians to be able to say "I dont like Islam" and not be sent for re-education or diversity training.

dont we have enough mosques in newport.for a minority they have loads of mosques legal and illegal all over newport.
the church of england and pc brigade should be disgusted with its self,it is allowing islam to eradicate any signs this is a christian country.
islam is a totalitarian idelogy like communism and nazism.
the problem we have in this country is saudi wahhabism.
most imams in the uk come from pakistan and are taught in saudi funded wahhabi madras's which preach radical islam.

muslims are shutting themselves away from anyone not muslim and making ghettos all over this country.
muslims wont mix with kaffers,non believers and this is causing extremists to flourish in their communities.
37% of male muslims want shareer law in this country.they dont respect this country or its laws.
islam goal is not too co-exist with other religions but to dominate other religions and islamize the world.

how can muslims post beheadings and attacks on civillians and our armed forces and be allowed.the internet is full of extremists posting sick videos all in the name of islam but i never hear any muslims condeming them or having them removed.they pass these videos around and even have them on their phones.
check out youtube it is full of these sick videos.it has become a site where islamic extremists can share their sick ideology.

Davewales please note that most moslems are peaceful and respect the laws of this country.most do NOT like or support the terrorists.

Indeed 78% of UK based muslims oppose Taliban attacks on UK forces, which only leaves 22% which approves or has no feeling either way. So by my maths out an estimated UK muslim population of 1.6 million, 352000 muslims state that the Taliban is correct to kill and maim British troops. How many Muslims would openly state they support the Taliban? 1945 Germany, saw millions of Germans declaring that they were not Nazis and saying that they did not support them. The newsreels and early election results tell a different story. For any insurgency or terrorist campaign to succeed, see Mao's quotes regarding a "fish in the water". There must be foundation level of support. Not everyone, but a critical mass of people, willing to actively help or turn a blind eye. The IRA, Marquis and the Viet Cong are testament to this. 22% of a population is a sizable number.

Again this is a view of a Totalitarian ideology that has been proven over many hundreds of years to devalue or destroy any culture it views as decadent. Whereas today the Muslim world lacks the military means to conquer the world,as it is sworn to do, its victory will therefore not come via superior firepower but by superior birthrate. I hold similar views on Fascism and Communism, so I hope my comments will be taken in the spirit that I intended them.

again people posting have gone off track if you don't use it you lose it! simple easy to understand. at least the building is being put to use and not left to be set on fire

From 1933-1945, the enemy was Nazi Germany. Today, it's political Islam

Salem you are right. However all Islam is political. There are no stable liberal democracies within the Islamic world. Secular Turkey comes close, but even that state is on the brink of Islamic oblivion. You have 2 major theorectical superpowers, Islam and Christianity. Both mutually exclude the other. Any talk of worshipping the same God is lunacy. A casual look at each scripture shows this. There are many similarities to WW2, the 2 opposing ideologies, appeasement, propaganda, arms race and the belief that the individual is consumed to be part of a much larger being (WW2 the state - now - Faith), makes me nervous.

I agree that an empty building is a wasted one. But why not turn it into a library, nursery or anything that doesnt include following a sky fairy, with unquestioning faith.

"those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities" Voltaire.

I am loathed to say it ,but I do declare,the people of this once respected proud country have become a nation of Celebrity Driven Sleepwalking Zombies that, are about to fumble blindly into a future you're worst nightmares could never prepare you for. For those of you Who like to admire and follow celebrity status, this lifestyle will still be available, but the right to choose a "Hero" will not be an option, because the new "Idol" of your affections will be forced upon you. His name will be "Mohammed"..swooning yet?? Hes a Seventh Century Arabic Nomad that Killed for Kicks, and Suppressed the Opposition with Butchery and Violence, you guessed it a trait celebrated in all Tyrannical Psychopaths.But My Zombie Compatriots fear not, I can at least offer you some solace in that, just as with many of your contemporary Idols of today "Mo the bro" was also completely Illiterate, Ignored Criticism, and Heard Voices in his Head. In your new Utopia "AL-HELLO" magazine will be packed with such Rabid debating points and tit bits as; --- "TOP TEN WAYS TO BEAT THE MISSES" --- and "SHAHIA COLLOQUIALISMS", right or wrong?. To sing a sweet Lullaby will be seen as Treachery to Islam, as all forms of modern music are crass, and therefore outlawed. And what of a future for Science and Discovery? Sorry, no future. For if Islam didn't invent it, It doesn't Happen!!.Gone will be your fashion sense, ON the "Catwalks" of Islamic London the models of Islam will parade, the Hi-jab and Burk-ha with all of the modesty becoming of a good Muslim, as the "new" Fashion of Islam designers struggle to enhance the differences of the top quality sack cloth on offer. My Zombies, you will learn of a tradition called prayer, most of you for the first time and on a Friday a Holy day will be enforced, and you shall be called to a place called "Mosque" where you must give thanks to a man called "Allah" for your newly enforced Ideological freedoms. For those few remaining Individuals that Vaguely Remember that the Weekend was a time for spirituality, You will be enforceably re-educated, as the Saturday(Judaic) and Sunday(Christian)peo
ples are no longer to be found among the Cult.. Sorry!..Flock! Your Brand new Brainwashed Minds , "Yes you have them", will compound in awe, as finally you see the U.S. flag for what it is.. as it grows the horns of beelzebub and attacks "INNOCENT MUSLIMS" worldwide. You will see a truly Evil Empire ruled over, by a Satanic Leader of a Barbaric Cult. A Proud Islamic Big Ben will proudly chime a call to prayer five times a day, and you the masses will always be aware of the time in Riyadh, hence you must always know from where your new masters hail. "Praise to Saudi Arabia" "Praise to the clerics of freedom". So my fellow Britons, are we so self driven by the banality of the "me and now" society and culture that we forget our past and ignore our future? have Fascism and Communism become just two new designer labels to consider whilest out shopping? Is Winston Churchill's somewhere to get cheap car insurance?. Do you care that, when our Fore Fathers of the Great War were huddled meekly together, like Drowned Rats, Knee deep in a Gore Churned Mud, Blinded and Sickened by Unspeakable Carnage, Fighting for Liberty and Freedom, they were doing it for US???. I wonder, did they have in Mind that the Blood of their Future Generations may be Subjected, to Living their lives dressed in the Attire of Seventh Century Arabs, following a Barbaric Cult, Sanctioned by a Regime of Fundamental Clerics, based in the Middle East, that pass Laws and Edicts, from their own Barbaric Ideology?. Alas, sadly I know the answer is, that most of you don't Care a ****, and our future is Bleak. Perhaps Ill go shopping with the hoards to cheer myself up.Anyone know where I can buy an Islamic Teddy Bear???

i want too know if the imam is from pakistan?

was he taught in a saudi funded madras?

which is more important to muslims shareer law or british law?

why do muslims segregate themselves from other people not muslim?

where is equality in islam .why are women treated like property and not allowed to walk alongside their husbands? or pray

why dont men cover their faces and body like a woman?

if these people in this mosque are peaceful then why did they march all in black through the centre of newport

chant in arabic so no one knew what they were saying

march in a military style as too intimidate people so they moved out of their way.

i am worried muslims are isolating themselves and allowing saudi wahhabism into mosques,which is radicalising young muslims and will end in them wanting to harm westeners.
saudi is spending a fortune on radical material which is turning many muslims too jihad in their own and other countries. in many countries muslim extremists are trying too overthrow peaceful,stable governments and install shareer law.
the threat is real and america,britain and israel are top of the hit list.

you can see these peaceful muslims on youtube

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http://www.youtube.c
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they are bnp files posted on youtube.

i am nothing to do with the bnp, i just watched them to see church opening.

I was at the Planning meeting last week and was appalled at the racist behaviour of PHC Davies and the Tory Chair. Les "Silent"Knight who refused the Muslim representative a right of reply to the sick, stage managed performance by the grubby Stow Hill Nazis (Davies and Routley. I thought I was at a Klu Klux Klan meeting. I was even more shocked when the liberal Cllr John Fortey agreed to a site visit against the recommendation of the officers. It is true that the Tories and the Liberals are politically identical.