Smacking is never justified

RK ROGER should note the proposed anti-smacking legislation is not only supported by the Welsh Assembly Government but by the Sdim Curo Plant!/Children Are Unbeatable Alliance.

A group of 300 organisations, including Save The Children, Children In Wales, NSPCC and the Royal College of Paediatrics, all working to protect children. There is no fine line between brutality and smacking – hitting children for any reason is wrong. The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child reminds us children are people too and have a right in law not to be hit. Messages to children about respecting others are lost when they experience being smacked by adults or when they see other children being treated in this way.

Children in Wales have produced a booklet Help at Hand-Taking a Positive Approach To Parenting (childreninwales.org.uk) which I urge people to read. Smacking children can also have a direct effect on children’s brain development, which can contribute to such conditions such as anorexia, addiction and anti-social behaviour. Does RK Rogers’ Christian values still cling to the rather punitive and outdated notion of Original Sin when it comes to bringing up children? I’m puzzled why he thinks hitting children is OK morally and ethically.

Terry Banfield Cardigan Crescent Cwmbran

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6:31pm Mon 31 Dec 12

merlin the silure says...

thrash them when naughty
thrash them when naughty merlin the silure

7:31pm Mon 31 Dec 12

Mervyn James says...

Agreed, some of these kids are so feral they cannot be reasoned with, their parents (Those that have them), are often worse and incapable of establishing any discipline. Spare the rod.. right!!! see what you get.

The Child act was to prevent ABUSE, not arm barrack-room lawyers and unruly out-of-control kids, and prevent discipline being given. Anyone who thinks they can reason with these kids by talking to them, obviously has never tried, or, succeeded !
Agreed, some of these kids are so feral they cannot be reasoned with, their parents (Those that have them), are often worse and incapable of establishing any discipline. Spare the rod.. right!!! see what you get. The Child act was to prevent ABUSE, not arm barrack-room lawyers and unruly out-of-control kids, and prevent discipline being given. Anyone who thinks they can reason with these kids by talking to them, obviously has never tried, or, succeeded ! Mervyn James

8:58pm Mon 31 Dec 12

Riley2012 says...

I was smacked as a kid by mum and dad, i smacked my own kids, i turned out fine, also have my kids turned out fine, you got to remember there is smacking and there is smacking in the long run it does you good and shapes you up, like mervyn james says you end up with the problem of feral kids.
I was smacked as a kid by mum and dad, i smacked my own kids, i turned out fine, also have my kids turned out fine, you got to remember there is smacking and there is smacking in the long run it does you good and shapes you up, like mervyn james says you end up with the problem of feral kids. Riley2012

12:49am Tue 1 Jan 13

newportexpat says...

I agree I was smacked as a kid & I learnt respect, it wasnt child abuse I only got punished when I did something very wrong - kids these days have no respect even my own daughter is becoming feral because her mother is far too soft & if I threaten to punish her properly I'm the one who gets a row - i would never talk to my parents like she sometimes talks to me & she's 3 & half!!
I agree I was smacked as a kid & I learnt respect, it wasnt child abuse I only got punished when I did something very wrong - kids these days have no respect even my own daughter is becoming feral because her mother is far too soft & if I threaten to punish her properly I'm the one who gets a row - i would never talk to my parents like she sometimes talks to me & she's 3 & half!! newportexpat

4:03am Sat 5 Jan 13

P C Neilson says...

I don't think you can describe a disrespectful or mouthy child as feral. Kids by nature are testy little sods, always pushing to see what they can get away with, but a whuping is a sign that you have lost control as the authority figure in the relationship, that you have given up on other forms of discipline. At worst it might instill a life lesson to a child that says; hitting is an acceptable way to get your way.

I was 'whuped' as a child, sometimes for superficial reasons, but it was the 'old school' way. Notice how children try to play parents off against eachother sometimes, this is normal, but must be dealt with by standing together on the punishment of the child, not rowing over the child in front of them, and following through on your word as a unit.

I think if you need smacking as a method of creating an obedient child, then you have failed as the rational adult in the relationship already. Smacking should be a last resort, when parenting tactics have been exhausted.
I don't think you can describe a disrespectful or mouthy child as feral. Kids by nature are testy little sods, always pushing to see what they can get away with, but a whuping is a sign that you have lost control as the authority figure in the relationship, that you have given up on other forms of discipline. At worst it might instill a life lesson to a child that says; hitting is an acceptable way to get your way. I was 'whuped' as a child, sometimes for superficial reasons, but it was the 'old school' way. Notice how children try to play parents off against eachother sometimes, this is normal, but must be dealt with by standing together on the punishment of the child, not rowing over the child in front of them, and following through on your word as a unit. I think if you need smacking as a method of creating an obedient child, then you have failed as the rational adult in the relationship already. Smacking should be a last resort, when parenting tactics have been exhausted. P C Neilson

1:10am Tue 8 Jan 13

smokintheweed says...

The threat of being smacked was always a greater deterrent than the pain of the act itself along with the feeling that a smacking was imminent. More of a sign of wrongdoing than punishment. It can go too far though.

I have mixed feelings on this issue.
The threat of being smacked was always a greater deterrent than the pain of the act itself along with the feeling that a smacking was imminent. More of a sign of wrongdoing than punishment. It can go too far though. I have mixed feelings on this issue. smokintheweed

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