Industry dies, disaster strikes

NICE to see the letter from Dave Hargrieves (7/12/12) rattling the cages of Messrs Dyer, Donovan and Townsend, our local Labour Party-bashers.

The problems in Newport are mostly when a steelworks dies ie Llanwern, Whiteheads, Lysaghts, the effects are like places like Corby, Ebbw Vale, etc, Disastrous. Thanks to Mrs Thatcher’s policies of selling the silverware, we have Indian-owned TATA steelworks, French and German gas and electric owned. So while these foreign-owned companies rub their hands at vast profits we have to rub ours to keep warm.

Dave Humphries Margaret Avenue Newport

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6:21pm Fri 4 Jan 13

Llanmartinangel says...

Yes, British Leyland, British Steel, British Rail, British Telecom and British Gas were a terrific success in state ownership days. Not.
Yes, British Leyland, British Steel, British Rail, British Telecom and British Gas were a terrific success in state ownership days. Not. Llanmartinangel
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7:43pm Sat 5 Jan 13

areyour4real says...

I would give anything to see Mrs Thatcher and Neil Kinnock having a fist fight in a pub car park.

Maybe one day my dreams will come true but I feel the old bird hasn't got long left now.
I would give anything to see Mrs Thatcher and Neil Kinnock having a fist fight in a pub car park. Maybe one day my dreams will come true but I feel the old bird hasn't got long left now. areyour4real
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7:57pm Sun 6 Jan 13

Mervyn James says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
Yes, British Leyland, British Steel, British Rail, British Telecom and British Gas were a terrific success in state ownership days. Not.
BT and BG are making billions, where you been ? The others were unable to compete with India or china, who pay their workers in peanuts. The former (India), is still getting financial support from us too, could you credit it ?? we pay them to do us out of work....
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: Yes, British Leyland, British Steel, British Rail, British Telecom and British Gas were a terrific success in state ownership days. Not.[/p][/quote]BT and BG are making billions, where you been ? The others were unable to compete with India or china, who pay their workers in peanuts. The former (India), is still getting financial support from us too, could you credit it ?? we pay them to do us out of work.... Mervyn James
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10:16pm Sun 6 Jan 13

Llanmartinangel says...

True BT and BG are doing far better under privatisation. When BT was privatised there were 240000 employees, now around 100000. And they pay more in corporation tax now than the dividend the government got in state ownership days so that proves privatisation worked. Under state ownership we had the worst and most expensive comms in Europe. Now among the best. You made my case for me Mervyn.
True BT and BG are doing far better under privatisation. When BT was privatised there were 240000 employees, now around 100000. And they pay more in corporation tax now than the dividend the government got in state ownership days so that proves privatisation worked. Under state ownership we had the worst and most expensive comms in Europe. Now among the best. You made my case for me Mervyn. Llanmartinangel
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12:18pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Mr Angry says...

When the old Trout Thatcher destoryed the old heavy Industries in Wales, there were also knock on effects such as the 'Supply Chain' etc, so the effects on the South Wales Economoy were devastating.


Massive reinvestment was needed but the offical policy was 'Mangaged Decline' in otherwords abandonment.


No one doubts the problems of those industries, but why was no long term plan put in place for proper regeneration ?
When the old Trout Thatcher destoryed the old heavy Industries in Wales, there were also knock on effects such as the 'Supply Chain' etc, so the effects on the South Wales Economoy were devastating. Massive reinvestment was needed but the offical policy was 'Mangaged Decline' in otherwords abandonment. No one doubts the problems of those industries, but why was no long term plan put in place for proper regeneration ? Mr Angry
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2:00pm Mon 7 Jan 13

pinpong says...

Blame everything on Thatcher. What about Scargill who led them to disaster or the militant steel unions. Anyway. If you listen to Hargrieves you need your bumps felt. He is part of the Alway mafia
Blame everything on Thatcher. What about Scargill who led them to disaster or the militant steel unions. Anyway. If you listen to Hargrieves you need your bumps felt. He is part of the Alway mafia pinpong
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2:28pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Mr Angry says...

So thatcher says I'm closing the mines, did you expect Scargill to tug his forlock and say yes madam you are right of course ?
So thatcher says I'm closing the mines, did you expect Scargill to tug his forlock and say yes madam you are right of course ? Mr Angry
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5:06pm Mon 7 Jan 13

Llanmartinangel says...

Mr Angry wrote:
So thatcher says I'm closing the mines, did you expect Scargill to tug his forlock and say yes madam you are right of course ?
Nope, no-one expected him to do any different. In those days the unions thought they could paralyse everything despite not having a democratic mandate. Or have you forgotten the power-cuts, uncollected rubbish for weeks in London, British Leyland that was a total joke and a steel industry so over-staffed that at Llanwern, where I worked for a time, no-one knew who was on site and who not, even though they were all being paid.The tail was wagging the dog and Thatcher sorted it. The last politician with a spine.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: So thatcher says I'm closing the mines, did you expect Scargill to tug his forlock and say yes madam you are right of course ?[/p][/quote]Nope, no-one expected him to do any different. In those days the unions thought they could paralyse everything despite not having a democratic mandate. Or have you forgotten the power-cuts, uncollected rubbish for weeks in London, British Leyland that was a total joke and a steel industry so over-staffed that at Llanwern, where I worked for a time, no-one knew who was on site and who not, even though they were all being paid.The tail was wagging the dog and Thatcher sorted it. The last politician with a spine. Llanmartinangel
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6:05pm Mon 7 Jan 13

pinpong says...

Mr Angry wrote:
So thatcher says I'm closing the mines, did you expect Scargill to tug his forlock and say yes madam you are right of course ?
Yes. Because he is a socialist lap dog
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: So thatcher says I'm closing the mines, did you expect Scargill to tug his forlock and say yes madam you are right of course ?[/p][/quote]Yes. Because he is a socialist lap dog pinpong
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