It's our duty to cast a vote

IT’S our duty to cast our vote at the ballot box this year.

This year could be quite a year in the UK, voting wise. Local elections, the break-up of the United Kingdom, Scottish independence, and an England intent on leaving the family of European countries – or at least renegotiating the relationship, demonstrates how important our vote will be.

That said, the European elections voting system is one of the worst ever foisted on the British electorate, where you don’t vote for an individual but for a party, and the party decides by ranking its candidates in order of preference who will be elected.

This may explain the poor turnout, so why persist with it? Then a “yes” vote for independence in Scotland could, in turn, influence the Westminster election in 2015, with the loss to Labour at Westminster of 40 MPs from Scotland.

Of course none of this could happen and the main focus could be on the UKIP party. Will there be a massive public protest voting for the UKIP at the European elections, but not voting for them at a general election. The social encyclicals underline the importance of participating in elections.

Norman Plaisted Vivian Road Newport

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4:33pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Bobevans says...

UKIP would be a good choice. Current predictions are that UKIP will gain at least 6 Assembly seats


http://www.ukipwales
.org/
UKIP would be a good choice. Current predictions are that UKIP will gain at least 6 Assembly seats http://www.ukipwales .org/ Bobevans

6:12pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Mervyn James says...

Just Tories without Cameron.... that's the deal, so a vote for UKIP is wasted. Vote for ANYONE who isn't a Tory or member of the Labour party, these are now obsolete and saying same things and using same policies... . But VOTE them out, even if it is the raving monster loony party.. As regards to Scottish Independence, NOT OUR BUSINESS. Cameron is a coward who won't go to Scotland to justify Westminster's desire to tell scots how to run own lives, and bullies wales because they voted Labour, we have more reason to leave the 'UK' than Scotland frankly. As for Europe lets NOT go there (Or let them come here !).
Just Tories without Cameron.... that's the deal, so a vote for UKIP is wasted. Vote for ANYONE who isn't a Tory or member of the Labour party, these are now obsolete and saying same things and using same policies... . But VOTE them out, even if it is the raving monster loony party.. As regards to Scottish Independence, NOT OUR BUSINESS. Cameron is a coward who won't go to Scotland to justify Westminster's desire to tell scots how to run own lives, and bullies wales because they voted Labour, we have more reason to leave the 'UK' than Scotland frankly. As for Europe lets NOT go there (Or let them come here !). Mervyn James

6:57pm Fri 7 Feb 14

Mr Angry says...

Bobevans wrote:
UKIP would be a good choice. Current predictions are that UKIP will gain at least 6 Assembly seats


http://www.ukipwales

.org/
Pointless voting for them, they won't even turn up. The worst attendance record in the European Parliament, yet they still draw salary and claim expenses.

I won't be voting , there's no one worth voting for
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: UKIP would be a good choice. Current predictions are that UKIP will gain at least 6 Assembly seats http://www.ukipwales .org/[/p][/quote]Pointless voting for them, they won't even turn up. The worst attendance record in the European Parliament, yet they still draw salary and claim expenses. I won't be voting , there's no one worth voting for Mr Angry

7:18pm Fri 7 Feb 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

Austerity, capitalism and the class system prevail far beyond the borders of the UK in the hands of parties from across the entirety of the political spectrum. They can't be voted away.

If you consider voting a 'duty' then you're complicit in the exploitation of the British people and the domination of political and economic classes.
Austerity, capitalism and the class system prevail far beyond the borders of the UK in the hands of parties from across the entirety of the political spectrum. They can't be voted away. If you consider voting a 'duty' then you're complicit in the exploitation of the British people and the domination of political and economic classes. GardenVarietyMushroom

7:36pm Fri 7 Feb 14

welshmen says...

Mervyn James wrote:
Just Tories without Cameron.... that's the deal, so a vote for UKIP is wasted. Vote for ANYONE who isn't a Tory or member of the Labour party, these are now obsolete and saying same things and using same policies... . But VOTE them out, even if it is the raving monster loony party.. As regards to Scottish Independence, NOT OUR BUSINESS. Cameron is a coward who won't go to Scotland to justify Westminster's desire to tell scots how to run own lives, and bullies wales because they voted Labour, we have more reason to leave the 'UK' than Scotland frankly. As for Europe lets NOT go there (Or let them come here !).
Scotland is our business Merv, so is Northern Island, England and Wales, we are the UK family, we are better together than divided,, as for Wales leaving, unfortunately we can't support our selves at this time, Wales would follow Nick Griffin of the BNP and go Bankrupt....
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: Just Tories without Cameron.... that's the deal, so a vote for UKIP is wasted. Vote for ANYONE who isn't a Tory or member of the Labour party, these are now obsolete and saying same things and using same policies... . But VOTE them out, even if it is the raving monster loony party.. As regards to Scottish Independence, NOT OUR BUSINESS. Cameron is a coward who won't go to Scotland to justify Westminster's desire to tell scots how to run own lives, and bullies wales because they voted Labour, we have more reason to leave the 'UK' than Scotland frankly. As for Europe lets NOT go there (Or let them come here !).[/p][/quote]Scotland is our business Merv, so is Northern Island, England and Wales, we are the UK family, we are better together than divided,, as for Wales leaving, unfortunately we can't support our selves at this time, Wales would follow Nick Griffin of the BNP and go Bankrupt.... welshmen

10:41pm Fri 7 Feb 14

BobEvams2014 says...

welshmen wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
Just Tories without Cameron.... that's the deal, so a vote for UKIP is wasted. Vote for ANYONE who isn't a Tory or member of the Labour party, these are now obsolete and saying same things and using same policies... . But VOTE them out, even if it is the raving monster loony party.. As regards to Scottish Independence, NOT OUR BUSINESS. Cameron is a coward who won't go to Scotland to justify Westminster's desire to tell scots how to run own lives, and bullies wales because they voted Labour, we have more reason to leave the 'UK' than Scotland frankly. As for Europe lets NOT go there (Or let them come here !).
Scotland is our business Merv, so is Northern Island, England and Wales, we are the UK family, we are better together than divided,, as for Wales leaving, unfortunately we can't support our selves at this time, Wales would follow Nick Griffin of the BNP and go Bankrupt....
If Scotland votes 'Yes' Cameron should send troops and tanks into Holyrood.
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: Just Tories without Cameron.... that's the deal, so a vote for UKIP is wasted. Vote for ANYONE who isn't a Tory or member of the Labour party, these are now obsolete and saying same things and using same policies... . But VOTE them out, even if it is the raving monster loony party.. As regards to Scottish Independence, NOT OUR BUSINESS. Cameron is a coward who won't go to Scotland to justify Westminster's desire to tell scots how to run own lives, and bullies wales because they voted Labour, we have more reason to leave the 'UK' than Scotland frankly. As for Europe lets NOT go there (Or let them come here !).[/p][/quote]Scotland is our business Merv, so is Northern Island, England and Wales, we are the UK family, we are better together than divided,, as for Wales leaving, unfortunately we can't support our selves at this time, Wales would follow Nick Griffin of the BNP and go Bankrupt....[/p][/quote]If Scotland votes 'Yes' Cameron should send troops and tanks into Holyrood. BobEvams2014

8:22am Sat 8 Feb 14

Bobevans says...

Wales has to be run efficiently and at present it is not.. Whilst the rest of the UK has become more efficient and cut costs by freezing council tax and reducing business rates and by increasing the efficiency of local council Wales has carried on wasting money and increasing costs which makes us a lot less competitive and because of these we will loose business
Wales has to be run efficiently and at present it is not.. Whilst the rest of the UK has become more efficient and cut costs by freezing council tax and reducing business rates and by increasing the efficiency of local council Wales has carried on wasting money and increasing costs which makes us a lot less competitive and because of these we will loose business Bobevans

12:40pm Sun 9 Feb 14

welshmen says...

To vote or not to vote, it's the choice you have in a democratic Country....
To vote or not to vote, it's the choice you have in a democratic Country.... welshmen

1:35pm Sun 9 Feb 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

welshmen wrote:
To vote or not to vote, it's the choice you have in a democratic Country....
I think the evidence is overwhelmingly clear that we do not, in fact, live in a 'democratic country'.
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: To vote or not to vote, it's the choice you have in a democratic Country....[/p][/quote]I think the evidence is overwhelmingly clear that we do not, in fact, live in a 'democratic country'. GardenVarietyMushroom

2:42pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Mr Angry says...

Bobevans wrote:
Wales has to be run efficiently and at present it is not.. Whilst the rest of the UK has become more efficient and cut costs by freezing council tax and reducing business rates and by increasing the efficiency of local council Wales has carried on wasting money and increasing costs which makes us a lot less competitive and because of these we will loose business
Wrong again Bob, Council Tax in wonderful England has risen, please stop telling lies
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: Wales has to be run efficiently and at present it is not.. Whilst the rest of the UK has become more efficient and cut costs by freezing council tax and reducing business rates and by increasing the efficiency of local council Wales has carried on wasting money and increasing costs which makes us a lot less competitive and because of these we will loose business[/p][/quote]Wrong again Bob, Council Tax in wonderful England has risen, please stop telling lies Mr Angry

5:11pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Bobevans says...

Mr Angry wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
Wales has to be run efficiently and at present it is not.. Whilst the rest of the UK has become more efficient and cut costs by freezing council tax and reducing business rates and by increasing the efficiency of local council Wales has carried on wasting money and increasing costs which makes us a lot less competitive and because of these we will loose business
Wrong again Bob, Council Tax in wonderful England has risen, please stop telling lies
I am afraid you are incorrect Council tax has ben frozen in England for over 3
years
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: Wales has to be run efficiently and at present it is not.. Whilst the rest of the UK has become more efficient and cut costs by freezing council tax and reducing business rates and by increasing the efficiency of local council Wales has carried on wasting money and increasing costs which makes us a lot less competitive and because of these we will loose business[/p][/quote]Wrong again Bob, Council Tax in wonderful England has risen, please stop telling lies[/p][/quote]I am afraid you are incorrect Council tax has ben frozen in England for over 3 years Bobevans

5:12pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Bobevans says...

Swiss vote for Controls on Migration


http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/world-europe-2
6108597
Swiss vote for Controls on Migration http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/world-europe-2 6108597 Bobevans

6:43pm Sun 9 Feb 14

Mr Angry says...

Bobevans wrote:
Mr Angry wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
Wales has to be run efficiently and at present it is not.. Whilst the rest of the UK has become more efficient and cut costs by freezing council tax and reducing business rates and by increasing the efficiency of local council Wales has carried on wasting money and increasing costs which makes us a lot less competitive and because of these we will loose business
Wrong again Bob, Council Tax in wonderful England has risen, please stop telling lies
I am afraid you are incorrect Council tax has ben frozen in England for over 3
years
Please stop telling lies Bob, I have family who live in England, the amount they pay in Council tax every month has risen that is a fact
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: Wales has to be run efficiently and at present it is not.. Whilst the rest of the UK has become more efficient and cut costs by freezing council tax and reducing business rates and by increasing the efficiency of local council Wales has carried on wasting money and increasing costs which makes us a lot less competitive and because of these we will loose business[/p][/quote]Wrong again Bob, Council Tax in wonderful England has risen, please stop telling lies[/p][/quote]I am afraid you are incorrect Council tax has ben frozen in England for over 3 years[/p][/quote]Please stop telling lies Bob, I have family who live in England, the amount they pay in Council tax every month has risen that is a fact Mr Angry

9:51pm Sun 9 Feb 14

BobEvams2014 says...

The latest wildly inaccurate polls show that at the 2015 general Election UKIP will win ....................
.... 0 seats. In fact George Galloways Respect Party seem set to win more seats.

These sort of false polls from disreputable companies should be banned, polls showing UKIP over 326 seats should be the only ones allowed !!!

http://ukpolling
report.co.uk/ukpr-
projection-2
The latest wildly inaccurate polls show that at the 2015 general Election UKIP will win .................... .... 0 seats. In fact George Galloways Respect Party seem set to win more seats. These sort of false polls from disreputable companies should be banned, polls showing UKIP over 326 seats should be the only ones allowed !!! http://ukpolling report.co.uk/ukpr- projection-2 BobEvams2014

12:11pm Mon 10 Feb 14

throwy1 says...

I believe all those eligible to vote should do so. To make this happen I would propose two changes to our voting system. Firstly I would introduce another box on the ballot paper and call it "None of the above" With that change my second change to the System would be to make voting g compulsory for all over 189 punishable with a fine (say £1000) for failing to do so.
I believe all those eligible to vote should do so. To make this happen I would propose two changes to our voting system. Firstly I would introduce another box on the ballot paper and call it "None of the above" With that change my second change to the System would be to make voting g compulsory for all over 189 punishable with a fine (say £1000) for failing to do so. throwy1

1:39pm Mon 10 Feb 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

throwy1 wrote:
I believe all those eligible to vote should do so. To make this happen I would propose two changes to our voting system. Firstly I would introduce another box on the ballot paper and call it "None of the above" With that change my second change to the System would be to make voting g compulsory for all over 189 punishable with a fine (say £1000) for failing to do so.
Who the hell lives to be one hundred and eighty nine?
[quote][p][bold]throwy1[/bold] wrote: I believe all those eligible to vote should do so. To make this happen I would propose two changes to our voting system. Firstly I would introduce another box on the ballot paper and call it "None of the above" With that change my second change to the System would be to make voting g compulsory for all over 189 punishable with a fine (say £1000) for failing to do so.[/p][/quote]Who the hell lives to be one hundred and eighty nine? GardenVarietyMushroom

2:02pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Mr Angry says...

throwy1 wrote:
I believe all those eligible to vote should do so. To make this happen I would propose two changes to our voting system. Firstly I would introduce another box on the ballot paper and call it "None of the above" With that change my second change to the System would be to make voting g compulsory for all over 189 punishable with a fine (say £1000) for failing to do so.
I am not voting, end of matter, I consdier voting Labour just to wind people up, but I can't be bothered .No one gives a **** for us ' Working Plebs' - especially UKIP so I won't waste my time. Who is s anyone to sy to me ' YOU MUST VOTE' , so who the hell do you think you are ?
[quote][p][bold]throwy1[/bold] wrote: I believe all those eligible to vote should do so. To make this happen I would propose two changes to our voting system. Firstly I would introduce another box on the ballot paper and call it "None of the above" With that change my second change to the System would be to make voting g compulsory for all over 189 punishable with a fine (say £1000) for failing to do so.[/p][/quote]I am not voting, end of matter, I consdier voting Labour just to wind people up, but I can't be bothered .No one gives a **** for us ' Working Plebs' - especially UKIP so I won't waste my time. Who is s anyone to sy to me ' YOU MUST VOTE' , so who the hell do you think you are ? Mr Angry

11:28am Tue 11 Feb 14

Raymond Luxury-Yacht says...

throwy1 wrote:
I believe all those eligible to vote should do so. To make this happen I would propose two changes to our voting system. Firstly I would introduce another box on the ballot paper and call it "None of the above" With that change my second change to the System would be to make voting g compulsory for all over 189 punishable with a fine (say £1000) for failing to do so.
No need ...........just spoil your ballot paper.
[quote][p][bold]throwy1[/bold] wrote: I believe all those eligible to vote should do so. To make this happen I would propose two changes to our voting system. Firstly I would introduce another box on the ballot paper and call it "None of the above" With that change my second change to the System would be to make voting g compulsory for all over 189 punishable with a fine (say £1000) for failing to do so.[/p][/quote]No need ...........just spoil your ballot paper. Raymond Luxury-Yacht

4:41pm Tue 11 Feb 14

Bobevans says...

throwy1 wrote:
I believe all those eligible to vote should do so. To make this happen I would propose two changes to our voting system. Firstly I would introduce another box on the ballot paper and call it "None of the above" With that change my second change to the System would be to make voting g compulsory for all over 189 punishable with a fine (say £1000) for failing to do so.
Total daft. people have just as much right to not vote as vote. . A non vote is the same as spoiling a paper or a none of the above
[quote][p][bold]throwy1[/bold] wrote: I believe all those eligible to vote should do so. To make this happen I would propose two changes to our voting system. Firstly I would introduce another box on the ballot paper and call it "None of the above" With that change my second change to the System would be to make voting g compulsory for all over 189 punishable with a fine (say £1000) for failing to do so.[/p][/quote]Total daft. people have just as much right to not vote as vote. . A non vote is the same as spoiling a paper or a none of the above Bobevans

9:33pm Tue 11 Feb 14

welshmen says...

It's a pity when it comes to Elections that all we need to do is press the red button on our TV remote, select your candidate and press, your pin code comes with your electrol forms....could stop the dead voting....
It's a pity when it comes to Elections that all we need to do is press the red button on our TV remote, select your candidate and press, your pin code comes with your electrol forms....could stop the dead voting.... welshmen

11:53am Wed 12 Feb 14

welshmen says...

GardenVarietyMushroo
m
wrote:
welshmen wrote:
To vote or not to vote, it's the choice you have in a democratic Country....
I think the evidence is overwhelmingly clear that we do not, in fact, live in a 'democratic country'.
As you sometime say, I lack evidence on my post's, (although EU audits haven't happened for 11 years) where's your evidence o mighty one, on saying, "I think the evidence is overwhelmingly clear that we do not, in fact, live in a 'democratic country'." waiting....
[quote][p][bold]GardenVarietyMushroo m[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: To vote or not to vote, it's the choice you have in a democratic Country....[/p][/quote]I think the evidence is overwhelmingly clear that we do not, in fact, live in a 'democratic country'.[/p][/quote]As you sometime say, I lack evidence on my post's, (although EU audits haven't happened for 11 years) where's your evidence o mighty one, on saying, "I think the evidence is overwhelmingly clear that we do not, in fact, live in a 'democratic country'." waiting.... welshmen

5:34pm Thu 13 Feb 14

varteg1 says...

Bobevans wrote:
throwy1 wrote:
I believe all those eligible to vote should do so. To make this happen I would propose two changes to our voting system. Firstly I would introduce another box on the ballot paper and call it "None of the above" With that change my second change to the System would be to make voting g compulsory for all over 189 punishable with a fine (say £1000) for failing to do so.
Total daft. people have just as much right to not vote as vote. . A non vote is the same as spoiling a paper or a none of the above
Thanks to people in Wales showing that very choice, we now have that mess in the Bay of Pigs had all who didn't bother to vote been compelled to vote, I seriously doubt we would not now be encumbered with this totally .useless burden which as of the recent past has spent billions, and gained little for the population.
Failing to vote got us into the present situation, pressures brought by a tiny faction with a nationalistic agenda has resulted in what we now have, maybe we need a new referendum to correct the situation, but with a call for either a minimum turn out, say 75%, or a full on compulsory vote.
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]throwy1[/bold] wrote: I believe all those eligible to vote should do so. To make this happen I would propose two changes to our voting system. Firstly I would introduce another box on the ballot paper and call it "None of the above" With that change my second change to the System would be to make voting g compulsory for all over 189 punishable with a fine (say £1000) for failing to do so.[/p][/quote]Total daft. people have just as much right to not vote as vote. . A non vote is the same as spoiling a paper or a none of the above[/p][/quote]Thanks to people in Wales showing that very choice, we now have that mess in the Bay of Pigs had all who didn't bother to vote been compelled to vote, I seriously doubt we would not now be encumbered with this totally .useless burden which as of the recent past has spent billions, and gained little for the population. Failing to vote got us into the present situation, pressures brought by a tiny faction with a nationalistic agenda has resulted in what we now have, maybe we need a new referendum to correct the situation, but with a call for either a minimum turn out, say 75%, or a full on compulsory vote. varteg1

8:56pm Sat 15 Feb 14

Mr Angry says...

Bobevans wrote:
UKIP would be a good choice. Current predictions are that UKIP will gain at least 6 Assembly seats


http://www.ukipwales

.org/
You have got to admire the intelligence of the average UKIP voter - they increase Labour's majority in Wythenshawe and Sale and consider it a great victory!
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: UKIP would be a good choice. Current predictions are that UKIP will gain at least 6 Assembly seats http://www.ukipwales .org/[/p][/quote]You have got to admire the intelligence of the average UKIP voter - they increase Labour's majority in Wythenshawe and Sale and consider it a great victory! Mr Angry

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