Plans for smoke

First published in Letters

IT was pretty obvious as soon as this waste of money came into use that the open-plan design was chosen with smokers in mind. We probably have the smoking management at Newport Bus and Newport Council to thank for this.

When the new bus station is built, I hope that some consideration will have been given to the health and safety of all non-smokers.

Lindsey Hayes Beaufort Road Newport

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5:15pm Mon 24 Feb 14

grumpyandopinionated says...

It wasn't designed with smokers in mind, I would imagine that the open plan is designed like that to stop the undesirables from hanging around. I did not like the cramped confined style of the old bus station.

The council has failed though to introduce a no smoking ban within the bus station as I agree with everyone that it should even though I am a smoker myself. But unlike most I am a considerate smoker and will try to be as far away from others when I do smoke as I understand that not everyone likes the smell of smoke.
It wasn't designed with smokers in mind, I would imagine that the open plan is designed like that to stop the undesirables from hanging around. I did not like the cramped confined style of the old bus station. The council has failed though to introduce a no smoking ban within the bus station as I agree with everyone that it should even though I am a smoker myself. But unlike most I am a considerate smoker and will try to be as far away from others when I do smoke as I understand that not everyone likes the smell of smoke. grumpyandopinionated
  • Score: 4

9:29pm Mon 24 Feb 14

pbhj says...

>"I would imagine that the open plan is designed like that to stop the undesirables from hanging around" //

Police have powers to move people on that are making a nuisance, and presumably even the community officers we have can wield such powers.

Making the bus station purposefully uncomfortable and uninviting just in case people want to loiter there seems very much like 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'.

One way to avoid people doing undesirable things is to make them feel they are on view (even just pictures of eyes amazingly reduce antisocial behaviours) - so having the ability to see out the enclosed side would have helped somewhat with that, as well as making the station functional for people catching buses.

All they need to do is put ends on the single wall and they'll have a sufficient enclosure to make it unlawful to smoke in there.
>"I would imagine that the open plan is designed like that to stop the undesirables from hanging around" // Police have powers to move people on that are making a nuisance, and presumably even the community officers we have can wield such powers. Making the bus station purposefully uncomfortable and uninviting just in case people want to loiter there seems very much like 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'. One way to avoid people doing undesirable things is to make them feel they are on view (even just pictures of eyes amazingly reduce antisocial behaviours) - so having the ability to see out the enclosed side would have helped somewhat with that, as well as making the station functional for people catching buses. All they need to do is put ends on the single wall and they'll have a sufficient enclosure to make it unlawful to smoke in there. pbhj
  • Score: 0

10:09pm Mon 24 Feb 14

scraptheWAG says...

there is a problem with unemployed / so called disabled people hanging around the town during the day
there is a problem with unemployed / so called disabled people hanging around the town during the day scraptheWAG
  • Score: -14

1:17am Tue 25 Feb 14

smokintheweed says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
there is a problem with unemployed / so called disabled people hanging around the town during the day
What does this have to do with smokers in a bus station? What does it have to do with anything at all? I have never voted Labour in my life but I will do so at the next opportunity to spite you. What has your post or you yourself go to offer anyone except misery.
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: there is a problem with unemployed / so called disabled people hanging around the town during the day[/p][/quote]What does this have to do with smokers in a bus station? What does it have to do with anything at all? I have never voted Labour in my life but I will do so at the next opportunity to spite you. What has your post or you yourself go to offer anyone except misery. smokintheweed
  • Score: 12

8:39am Tue 25 Feb 14

Bobevans says...

pbhj wrote:
>"I would imagine that the open plan is designed like that to stop the undesirables from hanging around" //

Police have powers to move people on that are making a nuisance, and presumably even the community officers we have can wield such powers.

Making the bus station purposefully uncomfortable and uninviting just in case people want to loiter there seems very much like 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'.

One way to avoid people doing undesirable things is to make them feel they are on view (even just pictures of eyes amazingly reduce antisocial behaviours) - so having the ability to see out the enclosed side would have helped somewhat with that, as well as making the station functional for people catching buses.

All they need to do is put ends on the single wall and they'll have a sufficient enclosure to make it unlawful to smoke in there.
Presumably the bus station is owned by the council. Therefore there is no reason why they cannot ban smoking in the bus station. All they need to do is to introduce a byelaw banning smoking in the bus station. It will cut down on litter as well as most litter nowadays is cigarette butts etc
[quote][p][bold]pbhj[/bold] wrote: >"I would imagine that the open plan is designed like that to stop the undesirables from hanging around" // Police have powers to move people on that are making a nuisance, and presumably even the community officers we have can wield such powers. Making the bus station purposefully uncomfortable and uninviting just in case people want to loiter there seems very much like 'cutting off your nose to spite your face'. One way to avoid people doing undesirable things is to make them feel they are on view (even just pictures of eyes amazingly reduce antisocial behaviours) - so having the ability to see out the enclosed side would have helped somewhat with that, as well as making the station functional for people catching buses. All they need to do is put ends on the single wall and they'll have a sufficient enclosure to make it unlawful to smoke in there.[/p][/quote]Presumably the bus station is owned by the council. Therefore there is no reason why they cannot ban smoking in the bus station. All they need to do is to introduce a byelaw banning smoking in the bus station. It will cut down on litter as well as most litter nowadays is cigarette butts etc Bobevans
  • Score: -3

9:12am Tue 25 Feb 14

Jimport says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
there is a problem with unemployed / so called disabled people hanging around the town during the day
90% of your posts are completely irrelevant to the topic being discussed. Do you have anything to say about smoking in the bus station?
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: there is a problem with unemployed / so called disabled people hanging around the town during the day[/p][/quote]90% of your posts are completely irrelevant to the topic being discussed. Do you have anything to say about smoking in the bus station? Jimport
  • Score: 9

9:33am Tue 25 Feb 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

smokintheweed wrote:
scraptheWAG wrote:
there is a problem with unemployed / so called disabled people hanging around the town during the day
What does this have to do with smokers in a bus station? What does it have to do with anything at all? I have never voted Labour in my life but I will do so at the next opportunity to spite you. What has your post or you yourself go to offer anyone except misery.
Haha - there's another one for the 'stW turned me into a labour voter' club.

Nice one scrappy doo
[quote][p][bold]smokintheweed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: there is a problem with unemployed / so called disabled people hanging around the town during the day[/p][/quote]What does this have to do with smokers in a bus station? What does it have to do with anything at all? I have never voted Labour in my life but I will do so at the next opportunity to spite you. What has your post or you yourself go to offer anyone except misery.[/p][/quote]Haha - there's another one for the 'stW turned me into a labour voter' club. Nice one scrappy doo GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: 9

4:20pm Tue 25 Feb 14

endthelies says...

The only link with scrap the wag and smoking is that his posts are about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike :-)
The only link with scrap the wag and smoking is that his posts are about as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike :-) endthelies
  • Score: 6

1:34am Fri 28 Feb 14

smokintheweed says...

Going back to the letter I find it really bizarre to go on about some big smokers conspiracy. It's a bus station, not a departure lounge of an airport. You wait for a time, a bus arrives and you take it to where you want to go. There are no VIP areas or a duty free shop so why would there need to be walls. You only need some moderate protection from the elements so most sides are left open and in your feeble brain it must be a conspiracy engineered towards people that smoke.

Perhaps the station should not allow smoking, certainly a lot of people find it disagreeable. I'm a smoker and there are laws of where I can and cannot smoke which I obey but your letter is frankly bordering on the insane nut-job conspiracy side.

"smoking management" sounds like a task force, I hope they have Cubans.
Going back to the letter I find it really bizarre to go on about some big smokers conspiracy. It's a bus station, not a departure lounge of an airport. You wait for a time, a bus arrives and you take it to where you want to go. There are no VIP areas or a duty free shop so why would there need to be walls. You only need some moderate protection from the elements so most sides are left open and in your feeble brain it must be a conspiracy engineered towards people that smoke. Perhaps the station should not allow smoking, certainly a lot of people find it disagreeable. I'm a smoker and there are laws of where I can and cannot smoke which I obey but your letter is frankly bordering on the insane nut-job conspiracy side. "smoking management" sounds like a task force, I hope they have Cubans. smokintheweed
  • Score: 3

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