What a contrast

First published in Letters

IT IS interesting to note the difference in the reaction to the passing of Tony Benn to the response when Baroness Thatcher died. Both were “conviction” politicians, with beliefs and policies vehemently rejected by those from the other side of the political spectrum. However, whereas Baroness Thatcher’s death was greeted by vile celebrations from the rabid left, Tony Benn’s has been met with a respectful acknowledgement of a career dedicated to the pursuit of his socialist beliefs, regardless of how misguided they may have been.

Bryan Wilkes, Penrhiw Terrace, Newport

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3:23pm Thu 27 Mar 14

varteg1 says...

Benn never caused the social discord attributed to Thatcher. Ergo: his post death tributes are well deserved, just as the antipathetic castigations of Thatcher were.
Benn never caused the social discord attributed to Thatcher. Ergo: his post death tributes are well deserved, just as the antipathetic castigations of Thatcher were. varteg1
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5:03pm Thu 27 Mar 14

welshmen says...

Benn in charge, the Russians would fly their flag here, keep the RED flag flying, Labour's Anthem, Thatcher had a pair Benn never, that's why he never made PM....
Benn in charge, the Russians would fly their flag here, keep the RED flag flying, Labour's Anthem, Thatcher had a pair Benn never, that's why he never made PM.... welshmen
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10:30pm Thu 27 Mar 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Well one difference I guess was their funerals. Thatcher's wasn't attended by a terrorist with the blood of many British citizens on their hands. Benn's last guests of honour were Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams.
Well one difference I guess was their funerals. Thatcher's wasn't attended by a terrorist with the blood of many British citizens on their hands. Benn's last guests of honour were Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams. Llanmartinangel
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1:12am Fri 28 Mar 14

Banjalucka says...

Sorry Benn was a great MP and politician whose thinking crossed many theories.
Sorry Benn was a great MP and politician whose thinking crossed many theories. Banjalucka
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7:39am Fri 28 Mar 14

Mike Roland says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
Well one difference I guess was their funerals. Thatcher's wasn't attended by a terrorist with the blood of many British citizens on their hands. Benn's last guests of honour were Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams.
Don't you think that Augusto Pinocet would have attended Thatcher's funeral, had he lived long enough?
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: Well one difference I guess was their funerals. Thatcher's wasn't attended by a terrorist with the blood of many British citizens on their hands. Benn's last guests of honour were Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams.[/p][/quote]Don't you think that Augusto Pinocet would have attended Thatcher's funeral, had he lived long enough? Mike Roland
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7:42am Fri 28 Mar 14

Mike Roland says...

Oops: Pinochet.
Oops: Pinochet. Mike Roland
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7:45am Fri 28 Mar 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Mike Roland wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
Well one difference I guess was their funerals. Thatcher's wasn't attended by a terrorist with the blood of many British citizens on their hands. Benn's last guests of honour were Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams.
Don't you think that Augusto Pinocet would have attended Thatcher's funeral, had he lived long enough?
And Stalin would have attended Benn's but if the sight of Cherie Blair hugging McGuiness didn't make you feel sick then it should have. Benn was buddying up to those murdering scum while they were sponsoring attacks on British soil.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Roland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: Well one difference I guess was their funerals. Thatcher's wasn't attended by a terrorist with the blood of many British citizens on their hands. Benn's last guests of honour were Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams.[/p][/quote]Don't you think that Augusto Pinocet would have attended Thatcher's funeral, had he lived long enough?[/p][/quote]And Stalin would have attended Benn's but if the sight of Cherie Blair hugging McGuiness didn't make you feel sick then it should have. Benn was buddying up to those murdering scum while they were sponsoring attacks on British soil. Llanmartinangel
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9:37am Fri 28 Mar 14

Mervyn James says...

varteg1 wrote:
Benn never caused the social discord attributed to Thatcher. Ergo: his post death tributes are well deserved, just as the antipathetic castigations of Thatcher were.
Thatcher hated the working class, and the unions even more. She was prepared to bring the country down to pursue her hateful view. Good riddance.
[quote][p][bold]varteg1[/bold] wrote: Benn never caused the social discord attributed to Thatcher. Ergo: his post death tributes are well deserved, just as the antipathetic castigations of Thatcher were.[/p][/quote]Thatcher hated the working class, and the unions even more. She was prepared to bring the country down to pursue her hateful view. Good riddance. Mervyn James
  • Score: -2

9:37am Fri 28 Mar 14

Mervyn James says...

varteg1 wrote:
Benn never caused the social discord attributed to Thatcher. Ergo: his post death tributes are well deserved, just as the antipathetic castigations of Thatcher were.
Thatcher hated the working class, and the unions even more. She was prepared to bring the country down to pursue her hateful view. Good riddance.
[quote][p][bold]varteg1[/bold] wrote: Benn never caused the social discord attributed to Thatcher. Ergo: his post death tributes are well deserved, just as the antipathetic castigations of Thatcher were.[/p][/quote]Thatcher hated the working class, and the unions even more. She was prepared to bring the country down to pursue her hateful view. Good riddance. Mervyn James
  • Score: -3

9:16am Sat 29 Mar 14

Mervyn James says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
Well one difference I guess was their funerals. Thatcher's wasn't attended by a terrorist with the blood of many British citizens on their hands. Benn's last guests of honour were Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams.
Benn was a man of ;principle, Thatcher had none, just hatred of the working class.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: Well one difference I guess was their funerals. Thatcher's wasn't attended by a terrorist with the blood of many British citizens on their hands. Benn's last guests of honour were Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams.[/p][/quote]Benn was a man of ;principle, Thatcher had none, just hatred of the working class. Mervyn James
  • Score: -3

3:46pm Sat 29 Mar 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Mervyn James wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
Well one difference I guess was their funerals. Thatcher's wasn't attended by a terrorist with the blood of many British citizens on their hands. Benn's last guests of honour were Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams.
Benn was a man of ;principle, Thatcher had none, just hatred of the working class.
Were those good chaps in the IRA that were blowing people up men of principle too? If so, what kind? And if Thatcher 'hated the working class' how come so many of them voted for her? After all, they can't all have been millionaires could they. I'd be prepared to guess that most of those buying their council houses were working class (as you put it) too.
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: Well one difference I guess was their funerals. Thatcher's wasn't attended by a terrorist with the blood of many British citizens on their hands. Benn's last guests of honour were Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams.[/p][/quote]Benn was a man of ;principle, Thatcher had none, just hatred of the working class.[/p][/quote]Were those good chaps in the IRA that were blowing people up men of principle too? If so, what kind? And if Thatcher 'hated the working class' how come so many of them voted for her? After all, they can't all have been millionaires could they. I'd be prepared to guess that most of those buying their council houses were working class (as you put it) too. Llanmartinangel
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1:59pm Sun 30 Mar 14

endthelies says...

She was voted in by the people who were least affected by her policies. I.E the rich, non miners and The good people of London (there were no mines in London!) As for this lot, they got in by a big fat default!!
She was voted in by the people who were least affected by her policies. I.E the rich, non miners and The good people of London (there were no mines in London!) As for this lot, they got in by a big fat default!! endthelies
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2:03pm Sun 30 Mar 14

endthelies says...

And I know this is completely off topic but I have to say, ATOS ARE GOING!! Now, I'd like to see some manslaughter charges for the people they gave inaccurate assessments to, which resulted in death. Thank heavens there are people who don't just sit back and do nothing when they can plainly see wrong is being done.
And I know this is completely off topic but I have to say, ATOS ARE GOING!! Now, I'd like to see some manslaughter charges for the people they gave inaccurate assessments to, which resulted in death. Thank heavens there are people who don't just sit back and do nothing when they can plainly see wrong is being done. endthelies
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2:26pm Sun 30 Mar 14

endthelies says...

And before I get the usual comments about Labour having introduced Atos, it was, at that time, a very different assessment under a very different system. The coalition signed a new contract with them in 2010 and it was they who introduced clause 99, which made appealing wrongful decisions very, very difficult. Atos will be sacked with no compensation paid for termination of their contract (I should hope not.
And before I get the usual comments about Labour having introduced Atos, it was, at that time, a very different assessment under a very different system. The coalition signed a new contract with them in 2010 and it was they who introduced clause 99, which made appealing wrongful decisions very, very difficult. Atos will be sacked with no compensation paid for termination of their contract (I should hope not. endthelies
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5:20pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Llanmartinangel says...

endthelies wrote:
She was voted in by the people who were least affected by her policies. I.E the rich, non miners and The good people of London (there were no mines in London!) As for this lot, they got in by a big fat default!!
I think the people in London were the ones with eight weeks uncollected rubbish and rats in the streets pre-Thatcher. I'm just sum using that it was a factor. All of us had our lights going out. This'll come as a shock to yo but miners aren't the only ones with skin in the game in an election and the government's job is to serve as many as they can. As for the 'rich' comment, I doubt thirteen million voters were 'rich' and a lot were working.
[quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: She was voted in by the people who were least affected by her policies. I.E the rich, non miners and The good people of London (there were no mines in London!) As for this lot, they got in by a big fat default!![/p][/quote]I think the people in London were the ones with eight weeks uncollected rubbish and rats in the streets pre-Thatcher. I'm just sum using that it was a factor. All of us had our lights going out. This'll come as a shock to yo but miners aren't the only ones with skin in the game in an election and the government's job is to serve as many as they can. As for the 'rich' comment, I doubt thirteen million voters were 'rich' and a lot were working. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 0

6:02pm Sun 30 Mar 14

endthelies says...

Oooh someone's cage is rattled. Unfortunately, you cannot upset my mood today because the suns shining and I'm all sweetness and light. luvya xx
Oooh someone's cage is rattled. Unfortunately, you cannot upset my mood today because the suns shining and I'm all sweetness and light. luvya xx endthelies
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7:52pm Sun 30 Mar 14

Mervyn James says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
Well one difference I guess was their funerals. Thatcher's wasn't attended by a terrorist with the blood of many British citizens on their hands. Benn's last guests of honour were Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams.
Benn was a man of ;principle, Thatcher had none, just hatred of the working class.
Were those good chaps in the IRA that were blowing people up men of principle too? If so, what kind? And if Thatcher 'hated the working class' how come so many of them voted for her? After all, they can't all have been millionaires could they. I'd be prepared to guess that most of those buying their council houses were working class (as you put it) too.
Those good chaps now run the Irish Stormont agreed by our government. Shortly the Taliban will regain rule in Afghanistan... The issue was no-one could win, so compromise had to be sought, Benn was about realism, you have to compromise when the enemy is undefeated or more lives get lost ad infinitum. Its the old adage, keep your friend close, your enemies even closer. At some point we will have to stop the bluster and talk to Russia over the Ukraine as well, because that issue is already lost. Politically we will posture and make a few noises, later we accept the compromise. Benn knew this,but media just looked at the photos not the reason behind them.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: Well one difference I guess was their funerals. Thatcher's wasn't attended by a terrorist with the blood of many British citizens on their hands. Benn's last guests of honour were Martin McGuiness and Gerry Adams.[/p][/quote]Benn was a man of ;principle, Thatcher had none, just hatred of the working class.[/p][/quote]Were those good chaps in the IRA that were blowing people up men of principle too? If so, what kind? And if Thatcher 'hated the working class' how come so many of them voted for her? After all, they can't all have been millionaires could they. I'd be prepared to guess that most of those buying their council houses were working class (as you put it) too.[/p][/quote]Those good chaps now run the Irish Stormont agreed by our government. Shortly the Taliban will regain rule in Afghanistan... The issue was no-one could win, so compromise had to be sought, Benn was about realism, you have to compromise when the enemy is undefeated or more lives get lost ad infinitum. Its the old adage, keep your friend close, your enemies even closer. At some point we will have to stop the bluster and talk to Russia over the Ukraine as well, because that issue is already lost. Politically we will posture and make a few noises, later we accept the compromise. Benn knew this,but media just looked at the photos not the reason behind them. Mervyn James
  • Score: -2

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