Living wage

IN reply to Cllr Kirby. Councillors who voted for the living wage will have to face the electorate come election time, to justify their deeds. If I was to stand in the next council election, the living wage and council cuts would be the spine of my campaign. I have been surprised at the positive response to my living wage letters. They can’t understand why councillors are happy to spend their hard earned money in a free and easy way.

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4:22pm Mon 31 Mar 14

pwlldu says...

There could be a few councillors looking for other ways to make up the shortfall in their money after the next council election. Councillors who cut and wasted money on the living wage and statures.
There could be a few councillors looking for other ways to make up the shortfall in their money after the next council election. Councillors who cut and wasted money on the living wage and statures. pwlldu
  • Score: -2

5:46pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Realist UK says...

Come the election in a few weeks time people must remember how the executives, past & present, of Caerphilly, along with councillors who have spent far too long in office, have made a mockery of Wales. These councillors should not be allowed to stand more than 2 terms of office as they have evidenced that they lose touch with the people who voted them in. The executives at Caerphilly have carte blanche regarding business as local councillors have become apathetic. Some councillors have been in office for years & it's amazing that people vote them back into office on what seems habit. Fresh blood is needed at Ty-Penallta, from the bottom to the top.
Come the election in a few weeks time people must remember how the executives, past & present, of Caerphilly, along with councillors who have spent far too long in office, have made a mockery of Wales. These councillors should not be allowed to stand more than 2 terms of office as they have evidenced that they lose touch with the people who voted them in. The executives at Caerphilly have carte blanche regarding business as local councillors have become apathetic. Some councillors have been in office for years & it's amazing that people vote them back into office on what seems habit. Fresh blood is needed at Ty-Penallta, from the bottom to the top. Realist UK
  • Score: 3

10:27pm Mon 31 Mar 14

pwlldu says...

TV programmes Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister reminds me of Caerphilly council. When the top civil servants control the government.
TV programmes Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister reminds me of Caerphilly council. When the top civil servants control the government. pwlldu
  • Score: -1

1:20am Tue 1 Apr 14

bugsy93 says...

Come election time the candidates will be promising the earth. When elected into office the attitude changes into a brainwashed programmed way of the 'not to rock the boat' attitude that they must abide to.
The corrupt smell of greed creeps in and the promise of a title of chairman or executive member of some obscure committee to boost the expenses takes priority over the election promises. If anyone tries to upset the corrupt applecart they will be ousted from the chamber for a breach of conduct.
This appears to be the norm in labour controlled Councils.
Come election time the candidates will be promising the earth. When elected into office the attitude changes into a brainwashed programmed way of the 'not to rock the boat' attitude that they must abide to. The corrupt smell of greed creeps in and the promise of a title of chairman or executive member of some obscure committee to boost the expenses takes priority over the election promises. If anyone tries to upset the corrupt applecart they will be ousted from the chamber for a breach of conduct. This appears to be the norm in labour controlled Councils. bugsy93
  • Score: 1

8:40am Tue 1 Apr 14

Gez Kirby says...

Mr Nutt - a Nationalist - seems to be desperately avoiding answering my original questions.

- is he saying that the Caerphilly Nationalist councillors who voted for the Living Wage for Caerphilly Council's lowest-paid workers (thereby benefiting our local economy) were wrong? Yes or no?

- Is there a massive split in Caerphilly Plaid Cymru on this issue? Yes or no?

And here's another question for Mr Nutt - is he urging voters to reject Plaid Cymru at the next election because of their support for the Living Wage? Yes or no?
Mr Nutt - a Nationalist - seems to be desperately avoiding answering my original questions. - is he saying that the Caerphilly Nationalist councillors who voted for the Living Wage for Caerphilly Council's lowest-paid workers (thereby benefiting our local economy) were wrong? Yes or no? - Is there a massive split in Caerphilly Plaid Cymru on this issue? Yes or no? And here's another question for Mr Nutt - is he urging voters to reject Plaid Cymru at the next election because of their support for the Living Wage? Yes or no? Gez Kirby
  • Score: -2

8:47am Tue 1 Apr 14

Mervyn James says...

If employers pay the living wage then most benefit claims in Wales would cease, since, most people who are WORKING are claiming the benefits to supplement their pittance. Wonder if that makes a blind bit of difference to the daily wail readers here who heap blame and abuse on the unemployed the old, they young, and the disabled ? fat chance they never let facts get in the way of a hate campaign. I'm wondering why they haven't blamed babes in arms....
If employers pay the living wage then most benefit claims in Wales would cease, since, most people who are WORKING are claiming the benefits to supplement their pittance. Wonder if that makes a blind bit of difference to the daily wail readers here who heap blame and abuse on the unemployed the old, they young, and the disabled ? fat chance they never let facts get in the way of a hate campaign. I'm wondering why they haven't blamed babes in arms.... Mervyn James
  • Score: 2

10:15am Tue 1 Apr 14

pwlldu says...

Gez Kirby says... typical unionist Mr Nutt letter is based on councillors who voted for the living wage at a time when there was no spending cuts to justify why they voted like they did. It is neither right or wrong but can they justify to the people who could be voting for them. Perhaps Cllr Kirby is running scared if an independant councillor was to stand in his patch (which is forever England).
Gez Kirby says... typical unionist Mr Nutt letter is based on councillors who voted for the living wage at a time when there was no spending cuts to justify why they voted like they did. It is neither right or wrong but can they justify to the people who could be voting for them. Perhaps Cllr Kirby is running scared if an independant councillor was to stand in his patch (which is forever England). pwlldu
  • Score: 5

10:19am Tue 1 Apr 14

pwlldu says...

Talk about splits, I'm still waiting for Cllr Dix to comment more on Cllr Kirby and his local AM. Labour is full of splits over the Barnett formula The Welsh branch of the Labour party wants it changed, while the Scottish branch wants to keep it. Cardiif council Labour group are split over Russell Goodwage. Labour AM's at odds with Ann Clwyd MP over the NHS. The Labour party at all levels are split.
Talk about splits, I'm still waiting for Cllr Dix to comment more on Cllr Kirby and his local AM. Labour is full of splits over the Barnett formula The Welsh branch of the Labour party wants it changed, while the Scottish branch wants to keep it. Cardiif council Labour group are split over Russell Goodwage. Labour AM's at odds with Ann Clwyd MP over the NHS. The Labour party at all levels are split. pwlldu
  • Score: 7

12:15pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Realist UK says...

Show me a labour run council & I'll show you the most grandiose HQ & very large Jobcentres. Caerphilly being a prime example.
Show me a labour run council & I'll show you the most grandiose HQ & very large Jobcentres. Caerphilly being a prime example. Realist UK
  • Score: 5

8:23am Wed 2 Apr 14

Mervyn James says...

Realist UK wrote:
Show me a labour run council & I'll show you the most grandiose HQ & very large Jobcentres. Caerphilly being a prime example.
There are LESS people unemployed in Wales, than the UK average. Again facts are in short supply here. Of course job centres don't exist in England or Scotland or Ireland, and certainly not with a Tory-run council.. DOH !
[quote][p][bold]Realist UK[/bold] wrote: Show me a labour run council & I'll show you the most grandiose HQ & very large Jobcentres. Caerphilly being a prime example.[/p][/quote]There are LESS people unemployed in Wales, than the UK average. Again facts are in short supply here. Of course job centres don't exist in England or Scotland or Ireland, and certainly not with a Tory-run council.. DOH ! Mervyn James
  • Score: 0

9:58pm Wed 2 Apr 14

pwlldu says...

Vote Mr Nutt, you should stand in Gez ward next council election.
Vote Mr Nutt, you should stand in Gez ward next council election. pwlldu
  • Score: 1

8:14pm Thu 3 Apr 14

allanrees1980 says...

pwlldu wrote:
Talk about splits, I'm still waiting for Cllr Dix to comment more on Cllr Kirby and his local AM. Labour is full of splits over the Barnett formula The Welsh branch of the Labour party wants it changed, while the Scottish branch wants to keep it. Cardiif council Labour group are split over Russell Goodwage. Labour AM's at odds with Ann Clwyd MP over the NHS. The Labour party at all levels are split.
My dear miss-informed friend. The Labour Party since 1900 has been made up of different pockets of organisations who eventually came together to make the Labour Party we know today. Back in the day of Keir Hardie there was the Independent Labour Party, Labour Representation Committee, Social Democratic Federation to name a few. These small pockets of the politically motivated over time came together to make the party we know today.

The emphasis is on cohesion and comradeship. There's Labour Party Wales, The Labour Party, Scottish Labour and even a Labour Party Ireland!

My point is that they cover different areas, different countries, different wards and counties. Each with different a demography, character and identity. So for anyone to argue the same should apply for each area or otherwise its seen as split evidently doesn't value diversity like the Labour Party does.The party that appeals to many not the niche few.
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: Talk about splits, I'm still waiting for Cllr Dix to comment more on Cllr Kirby and his local AM. Labour is full of splits over the Barnett formula The Welsh branch of the Labour party wants it changed, while the Scottish branch wants to keep it. Cardiif council Labour group are split over Russell Goodwage. Labour AM's at odds with Ann Clwyd MP over the NHS. The Labour party at all levels are split.[/p][/quote]My dear miss-informed friend. The Labour Party since 1900 has been made up of different pockets of organisations who eventually came together to make the Labour Party we know today. Back in the day of Keir Hardie there was the Independent Labour Party, Labour Representation Committee, Social Democratic Federation to name a few. These small pockets of the politically motivated over time came together to make the party we know today. The emphasis is on cohesion and comradeship. There's Labour Party Wales, The Labour Party, Scottish Labour and even a Labour Party Ireland! My point is that they cover different areas, different countries, different wards and counties. Each with different a demography, character and identity. So for anyone to argue the same should apply for each area or otherwise its seen as split evidently doesn't value diversity like the Labour Party does.The party that appeals to many not the niche few. allanrees1980
  • Score: -2

10:39pm Thu 3 Apr 14

pwlldu says...

allanrees1980 says... Labour are made up of various branches within the Labour party. Never the less when one branch disagree with other branches that is a split in ranks. When Labour MP's are critical of the Assembly that is a split on various issues
allanrees1980 says... Labour are made up of various branches within the Labour party. Never the less when one branch disagree with other branches that is a split in ranks. When Labour MP's are critical of the Assembly that is a split on various issues pwlldu
  • Score: 0

7:07am Fri 4 Apr 14

allanrees1980 says...

Perhaps we lack your militancy pwlldu. You should offer your services as a consultant in party conformity and not being able to speak your own mind.
Perhaps we lack your militancy pwlldu. You should offer your services as a consultant in party conformity and not being able to speak your own mind. allanrees1980
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