Put Wales first

WE ALL know that IF WALES is to have a voice in Europe, there has to be a Plaid Cymru Member of the European Parliament. That was the message we took to the streets of Newport last weekend. I was pleased that party members from across the south east joined Jill Evans MEP and I knocking doors in the Tredegar Park ward.

Plaid Cymru – The Party of Wales is the only party that can be trusted to put Wales First. On crucial issues such as European regeneration funding, only Jill Evans MEP has consistently voted in favour of investment through the EU budget and EU spending.

Our team is working together to build a healthier, wealthier, stronger Wales. Join us to Put Wales First on Thursday May 22 and vote Plaid Cymru.

Ioan Bellin European candidate Plaid Cymru

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5:49pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Monmouthshire Merlin says...

Put Wales first and vote UKIP!
Time for a change.
Also, time to close the Bay of Plenty for those on the gravy train at the Welsh Assembly.
Put Wales first and vote UKIP! Time for a change. Also, time to close the Bay of Plenty for those on the gravy train at the Welsh Assembly. Monmouthshire Merlin
  • Score: 6

6:04pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Newportg says...

Monmouthshire Merlin wrote:
Put Wales first and vote UKIP!
Time for a change.
Also, time to close the Bay of Plenty for those on the gravy train at the Welsh Assembly.
Never!
[quote][p][bold]Monmouthshire Merlin[/bold] wrote: Put Wales first and vote UKIP! Time for a change. Also, time to close the Bay of Plenty for those on the gravy train at the Welsh Assembly.[/p][/quote]Never! Newportg
  • Score: -7

6:23pm Tue 8 Apr 14

blackandamber says...

If you really want to put Wales first, Then scrap the WAG
If you really want to put Wales first, Then scrap the WAG blackandamber
  • Score: 12

7:05pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Mervyn James says...

blackandamber wrote:
If you really want to put Wales first, Then scrap the WAG
Or scrap the anti-assembly responses as they offer nothing that contains an viable solution or answer ! Any clown can blame someone else, how about they offer some sensible suggestions ? Probably tax the one brain cell they share too much.

I do think the Plaid dedication TO the European set up is their undoing, no-one in any majority supports it, welsh or English. Unless Plaid is suggesting we can more handouts from there than London, then even dedicated welsh supporters are going to worry, we are projected as a nation of beggars and sickies. . First we have to prove Wales is viable and open for business. However Newport has the most negative population of any city in the UK who would probably still complain no matter what happens. No doubt why migrancy is encouraged, people who want to just get on with things and not post irrelevances about own representation 24/7..
[quote][p][bold]blackandamber[/bold] wrote: If you really want to put Wales first, Then scrap the WAG[/p][/quote]Or scrap the anti-assembly responses as they offer nothing that contains an viable solution or answer ! Any clown can blame someone else, how about they offer some sensible suggestions ? Probably tax the one brain cell they share too much. I do think the Plaid dedication TO the European set up is their undoing, no-one in any majority supports it, welsh or English. Unless Plaid is suggesting we can more handouts from there than London, then even dedicated welsh supporters are going to worry, we are projected as a nation of beggars and sickies. . First we have to prove Wales is viable and open for business. However Newport has the most negative population of any city in the UK who would probably still complain no matter what happens. No doubt why migrancy is encouraged, people who want to just get on with things and not post irrelevances about own representation 24/7.. Mervyn James
  • Score: 1

7:13pm Tue 8 Apr 14

scraptheWAG says...

Mervyn James wrote:
blackandamber wrote:
If you really want to put Wales first, Then scrap the WAG
Or scrap the anti-assembly responses as they offer nothing that contains an viable solution or answer ! Any clown can blame someone else, how about they offer some sensible suggestions ? Probably tax the one brain cell they share too much.

I do think the Plaid dedication TO the European set up is their undoing, no-one in any majority supports it, welsh or English. Unless Plaid is suggesting we can more handouts from there than London, then even dedicated welsh supporters are going to worry, we are projected as a nation of beggars and sickies. . First we have to prove Wales is viable and open for business. However Newport has the most negative population of any city in the UK who would probably still complain no matter what happens. No doubt why migrancy is encouraged, people who want to just get on with things and not post irrelevances about own representation 24/7..
yes i can make a suggestion merv scrap the wag crap and return the half a billion per annum to front line services in wales ! hows that for a suggestion
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]blackandamber[/bold] wrote: If you really want to put Wales first, Then scrap the WAG[/p][/quote]Or scrap the anti-assembly responses as they offer nothing that contains an viable solution or answer ! Any clown can blame someone else, how about they offer some sensible suggestions ? Probably tax the one brain cell they share too much. I do think the Plaid dedication TO the European set up is their undoing, no-one in any majority supports it, welsh or English. Unless Plaid is suggesting we can more handouts from there than London, then even dedicated welsh supporters are going to worry, we are projected as a nation of beggars and sickies. . First we have to prove Wales is viable and open for business. However Newport has the most negative population of any city in the UK who would probably still complain no matter what happens. No doubt why migrancy is encouraged, people who want to just get on with things and not post irrelevances about own representation 24/7..[/p][/quote]yes i can make a suggestion merv scrap the wag crap and return the half a billion per annum to front line services in wales ! hows that for a suggestion scraptheWAG
  • Score: 10

9:51pm Tue 8 Apr 14

pwlldu says...

Scrap Westminster London government Guto Fawlks had the right idea. Wales is just an after thought among policies from English based parties. Yes even UKIP tries to sweet talk the south east of England.
Scrap Westminster London government Guto Fawlks had the right idea. Wales is just an after thought among policies from English based parties. Yes even UKIP tries to sweet talk the south east of England. pwlldu
  • Score: -7

10:21pm Tue 8 Apr 14

scraptheWAG says...

pwlldu wrote:
Scrap Westminster London government Guto Fawlks had the right idea. Wales is just an after thought among policies from English based parties. Yes even UKIP tries to sweet talk the south east of England.
yes there is waste in westminster probably lots but why double it as for the suggestion the WAG has improved waleson every level we are now worse off.
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: Scrap Westminster London government Guto Fawlks had the right idea. Wales is just an after thought among policies from English based parties. Yes even UKIP tries to sweet talk the south east of England.[/p][/quote]yes there is waste in westminster probably lots but why double it as for the suggestion the WAG has improved waleson every level we are now worse off. scraptheWAG
  • Score: 10

10:27pm Tue 8 Apr 14

welshmen says...

Plaid Cymru Party of Wales, NO, Party of the rest of the world, yet again we have a British Political Party that want to stay in the EU and still let thousands of Immigrants into Wales from anywhere, their an embarrassment to the Welsh People, hope they never get into power along with LIB-LAB-CON....
Plaid Cymru Party of Wales, NO, Party of the rest of the world, yet again we have a British Political Party that want to stay in the EU and still let thousands of Immigrants into Wales from anywhere, their an embarrassment to the Welsh People, hope they never get into power along with LIB-LAB-CON.... welshmen
  • Score: 4

7:16am Wed 9 Apr 14

Llanmartinangel says...

This is a quote from Plaid MP Jill Evans on Wales encouraging foreign migrants to come here:
'Migrants to Wales could also be expected to learn about Welsh culture and be given the opportunity to learn Welsh, as well as guaranteeing that in return for a visa they would not live elsewhere in the UK.'

How in heavens name would that work? Anyone who has ever hung around the poorer areas of Newport or Cardiff would know automatically that more immigration is the last thing we need. Totally bonkers.
This is a quote from Plaid MP Jill Evans on Wales encouraging foreign migrants to come here: 'Migrants to Wales could also be expected to learn about Welsh culture and be given the opportunity to learn Welsh, as well as guaranteeing that in return for a visa they would not live elsewhere in the UK.' How in heavens name would that work? Anyone who has ever hung around the poorer areas of Newport or Cardiff would know automatically that more immigration is the last thing we need. Totally bonkers. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 15

7:34am Wed 9 Apr 14

BobEvams2014 says...

Monmouthshire Merlin wrote:
Put Wales first and vote UKIP! Time for a change. Also, time to close the Bay of Plenty for those on the gravy train at the Welsh Assembly.
Indeed , In fact I look forward to UKIP holding a referendum om the future of the WAG..... would they hold one ?
[quote][p][bold]Monmouthshire Merlin[/bold] wrote: Put Wales first and vote UKIP! Time for a change. Also, time to close the Bay of Plenty for those on the gravy train at the Welsh Assembly.[/p][/quote]Indeed , In fact I look forward to UKIP holding a referendum om the future of the WAG..... would they hold one ? BobEvams2014
  • Score: -3

7:47am Wed 9 Apr 14

scraptheWAG says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
This is a quote from Plaid MP Jill Evans on Wales encouraging foreign migrants to come here:
'Migrants to Wales could also be expected to learn about Welsh culture and be given the opportunity to learn Welsh, as well as guaranteeing that in return for a visa they would not live elsewhere in the UK.'

How in heavens name would that work? Anyone who has ever hung around the poorer areas of Newport or Cardiff would know automatically that more immigration is the last thing we need. Totally bonkers.
it translates they can come claim benefits as long as they speak the sacred tongue lol

only in wales could a bunch of nutters like this get support
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: This is a quote from Plaid MP Jill Evans on Wales encouraging foreign migrants to come here: 'Migrants to Wales could also be expected to learn about Welsh culture and be given the opportunity to learn Welsh, as well as guaranteeing that in return for a visa they would not live elsewhere in the UK.' How in heavens name would that work? Anyone who has ever hung around the poorer areas of Newport or Cardiff would know automatically that more immigration is the last thing we need. Totally bonkers.[/p][/quote]it translates they can come claim benefits as long as they speak the sacred tongue lol only in wales could a bunch of nutters like this get support scraptheWAG
  • Score: 13

8:40am Wed 9 Apr 14

BobEvams2014 says...

Well said sir - I must say I always look forward to your rational , unbiased and well thought out contributions
Well said sir - I must say I always look forward to your rational , unbiased and well thought out contributions BobEvams2014
  • Score: -7

10:44pm Wed 9 Apr 14

pwlldu says...

welshmen says...

Plaid Cymru Party of Wales, NO, Party of the rest of the world, yet again we have a British Political Party that want to stay in the EU and still let thousands of Immigrants into Wales from anywhere, their an embarrassment to the Welsh People, hope they never get into power along with LIB-LAB-CON....

Should we stop wealthy English OAP's from retiring here and putting a strain on the NHS. Have you heard about the man from Machester with five kids and on the dole. He moved to a beech house in north west wales but can't find a job because he can't speak welsh. He would have had more chance finding a job in Manchester than the north west of wales. Still he and his family enjoys the sea air, nice beech on taxpayers money.
welshmen says... Plaid Cymru Party of Wales, NO, Party of the rest of the world, yet again we have a British Political Party that want to stay in the EU and still let thousands of Immigrants into Wales from anywhere, their an embarrassment to the Welsh People, hope they never get into power along with LIB-LAB-CON.... Should we stop wealthy English OAP's from retiring here and putting a strain on the NHS. Have you heard about the man from Machester with five kids and on the dole. He moved to a beech house in north west wales but can't find a job because he can't speak welsh. He would have had more chance finding a job in Manchester than the north west of wales. Still he and his family enjoys the sea air, nice beech on taxpayers money. pwlldu
  • Score: -5

7:45am Thu 10 Apr 14

Llanmartinangel says...

pwlldu wrote:
welshmen says...

Plaid Cymru Party of Wales, NO, Party of the rest of the world, yet again we have a British Political Party that want to stay in the EU and still let thousands of Immigrants into Wales from anywhere, their an embarrassment to the Welsh People, hope they never get into power along with LIB-LAB-CON....

Should we stop wealthy English OAP's from retiring here and putting a strain on the NHS. Have you heard about the man from Machester with five kids and on the dole. He moved to a beech house in north west wales but can't find a job because he can't speak welsh. He would have had more chance finding a job in Manchester than the north west of wales. Still he and his family enjoys the sea air, nice beech on taxpayers money.
So one of your own politicians doesn't understand the basic planks of the EU, freedom of movement, and neither do you. If Wales doles out residency to immigrants they can then move anywhere in the EU and no 'agreement' could stop them. As for 'wealthy pensioners' they will have paid tax to the UK government on the way so are entitled to healthcare in the UK. You, and your party, seem to be ok though with immigrants who haven't paid a cent coming here and using the NHS. Like I said, Plaid don't get economics. Bunch of nutters.
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: welshmen says... Plaid Cymru Party of Wales, NO, Party of the rest of the world, yet again we have a British Political Party that want to stay in the EU and still let thousands of Immigrants into Wales from anywhere, their an embarrassment to the Welsh People, hope they never get into power along with LIB-LAB-CON.... Should we stop wealthy English OAP's from retiring here and putting a strain on the NHS. Have you heard about the man from Machester with five kids and on the dole. He moved to a beech house in north west wales but can't find a job because he can't speak welsh. He would have had more chance finding a job in Manchester than the north west of wales. Still he and his family enjoys the sea air, nice beech on taxpayers money.[/p][/quote]So one of your own politicians doesn't understand the basic planks of the EU, freedom of movement, and neither do you. If Wales doles out residency to immigrants they can then move anywhere in the EU and no 'agreement' could stop them. As for 'wealthy pensioners' they will have paid tax to the UK government on the way so are entitled to healthcare in the UK. You, and your party, seem to be ok though with immigrants who haven't paid a cent coming here and using the NHS. Like I said, Plaid don't get economics. Bunch of nutters. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 8

12:07pm Thu 10 Apr 14

welshmen says...

pwlldu wrote:
welshmen says...

Plaid Cymru Party of Wales, NO, Party of the rest of the world, yet again we have a British Political Party that want to stay in the EU and still let thousands of Immigrants into Wales from anywhere, their an embarrassment to the Welsh People, hope they never get into power along with LIB-LAB-CON....

Should we stop wealthy English OAP's from retiring here and putting a strain on the NHS. Have you heard about the man from Machester with five kids and on the dole. He moved to a beech house in north west wales but can't find a job because he can't speak welsh. He would have had more chance finding a job in Manchester than the north west of wales. Still he and his family enjoys the sea air, nice beech on taxpayers money.
The clue here is immigrants that's people outside British borders, British people can move anywhere they like, get a grip pidlypoo....
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: welshmen says... Plaid Cymru Party of Wales, NO, Party of the rest of the world, yet again we have a British Political Party that want to stay in the EU and still let thousands of Immigrants into Wales from anywhere, their an embarrassment to the Welsh People, hope they never get into power along with LIB-LAB-CON.... Should we stop wealthy English OAP's from retiring here and putting a strain on the NHS. Have you heard about the man from Machester with five kids and on the dole. He moved to a beech house in north west wales but can't find a job because he can't speak welsh. He would have had more chance finding a job in Manchester than the north west of wales. Still he and his family enjoys the sea air, nice beech on taxpayers money.[/p][/quote]The clue here is immigrants that's people outside British borders, British people can move anywhere they like, get a grip pidlypoo.... welshmen
  • Score: 2

12:24pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Jimport says...

Monmouthshire Merlin wrote:
Put Wales first and vote UKIP!
Time for a change.
Also, time to close the Bay of Plenty for those on the gravy train at the Welsh Assembly.
Utter crud. You use UKIP to 'send a message' to the three major parties, one of which you know very well will be in power after 2015. You are happy for UKIP to come second or third in various constituencies, taking a decent share of the popular vote and sending the anti-EU message to Miliband or Cameron while not winning any actual seats, because let's face it you wouldn't be daft enough to put your the value of your savings, your pension or the price of your house in the hands of UKIP top brass. It's comfortable and reassuring to send them to Brussels where they can cackle and wither to their hearts content; stick them in Westminster where they can actually pull some levers and you'd soon start sweating.
[quote][p][bold]Monmouthshire Merlin[/bold] wrote: Put Wales first and vote UKIP! Time for a change. Also, time to close the Bay of Plenty for those on the gravy train at the Welsh Assembly.[/p][/quote]Utter crud. You use UKIP to 'send a message' to the three major parties, one of which you know very well will be in power after 2015. You are happy for UKIP to come second or third in various constituencies, taking a decent share of the popular vote and sending the anti-EU message to Miliband or Cameron while not winning any actual seats, because let's face it you wouldn't be daft enough to put your the value of your savings, your pension or the price of your house in the hands of UKIP top brass. It's comfortable and reassuring to send them to Brussels where they can cackle and wither to their hearts content; stick them in Westminster where they can actually pull some levers and you'd soon start sweating. Jimport
  • Score: 0

3:18pm Thu 10 Apr 14

welshmen says...

Jimport wrote:
Monmouthshire Merlin wrote:
Put Wales first and vote UKIP!
Time for a change.
Also, time to close the Bay of Plenty for those on the gravy train at the Welsh Assembly.
Utter crud. You use UKIP to 'send a message' to the three major parties, one of which you know very well will be in power after 2015. You are happy for UKIP to come second or third in various constituencies, taking a decent share of the popular vote and sending the anti-EU message to Miliband or Cameron while not winning any actual seats, because let's face it you wouldn't be daft enough to put your the value of your savings, your pension or the price of your house in the hands of UKIP top brass. It's comfortable and reassuring to send them to Brussels where they can cackle and wither to their hearts content; stick them in Westminster where they can actually pull some levers and you'd soon start sweating.
Utter crud HaHaHa, priceless and clueless, just as daft as your LAB-LIB-CON elite bunch of proved thief's and liars, you are completely taken in by the brainwasher's, houses bought prior to this government were mostly nil equity, this Government, pensions took a tumble and you have to work longer, saving's haven't been any good for ten years, so I think you have been deluded yet again by your there'are all init for them selves LIB-LAB-CON.

Out of Millipeade Cammeroon Clegy and Nigel Farage, Nigel Farage is the only one to have had a proper job and run his own business successfully, THAT'S MADE MONEY, the other three have only lost £Billions, LAB Gordon Brown, sold Gold at a knock down price and lost £billions, Vince no brain Cable lost £2.6 Billion on the part sale of the Post Office, LIB-LAB-CON lost £148 Billion on Immigration into our Country.

Fought two Wars that we never had too, left Iraq in a worse state than it was, Afghanistan might fair better, but was not worth one drop of our Soldiers blood, our Forces are the best in the World and your Government pay most of them lower than the living wage, yes your Elitist politicians are traitors to the British people quicker they jog on the better our Country will be, that's if this is your Country or are you an immigrant here for the free life, well make the most of it come next General Election your gravy train will STOP along with your political Elitist Party, VOTE UKIP or the BNP get our Country back under BRITISH CONTROL from Foreign control....
[quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monmouthshire Merlin[/bold] wrote: Put Wales first and vote UKIP! Time for a change. Also, time to close the Bay of Plenty for those on the gravy train at the Welsh Assembly.[/p][/quote]Utter crud. You use UKIP to 'send a message' to the three major parties, one of which you know very well will be in power after 2015. You are happy for UKIP to come second or third in various constituencies, taking a decent share of the popular vote and sending the anti-EU message to Miliband or Cameron while not winning any actual seats, because let's face it you wouldn't be daft enough to put your the value of your savings, your pension or the price of your house in the hands of UKIP top brass. It's comfortable and reassuring to send them to Brussels where they can cackle and wither to their hearts content; stick them in Westminster where they can actually pull some levers and you'd soon start sweating.[/p][/quote]Utter crud HaHaHa, priceless and clueless, just as daft as your LAB-LIB-CON elite bunch of proved thief's and liars, you are completely taken in by the brainwasher's, houses bought prior to this government were mostly nil equity, this Government, pensions took a tumble and you have to work longer, saving's haven't been any good for ten years, so I think you have been deluded yet again by your there'are all init for them selves LIB-LAB-CON. Out of Millipeade Cammeroon Clegy and Nigel Farage, Nigel Farage is the only one to have had a proper job and run his own business successfully, THAT'S MADE MONEY, the other three have only lost £Billions, LAB Gordon Brown, sold Gold at a knock down price and lost £billions, Vince no brain Cable lost £2.6 Billion on the part sale of the Post Office, LIB-LAB-CON lost £148 Billion on Immigration into our Country. Fought two Wars that we never had too, left Iraq in a worse state than it was, Afghanistan might fair better, but was not worth one drop of our Soldiers blood, our Forces are the best in the World and your Government pay most of them lower than the living wage, yes your Elitist politicians are traitors to the British people quicker they jog on the better our Country will be, that's if this is your Country or are you an immigrant here for the free life, well make the most of it come next General Election your gravy train will STOP along with your political Elitist Party, VOTE UKIP or the BNP get our Country back under BRITISH CONTROL from Foreign control.... welshmen
  • Score: 2

5:12pm Thu 10 Apr 14

BobEvams2014 says...

welshmen wrote:
pwlldu wrote:
welshmen says...

Plaid Cymru Party of Wales, NO, Party of the rest of the world, yet again we have a British Political Party that want to stay in the EU and still let thousands of Immigrants into Wales from anywhere, their an embarrassment to the Welsh People, hope they never get into power along with LIB-LAB-CON....

Should we stop wealthy English OAP's from retiring here and putting a strain on the NHS. Have you heard about the man from Machester with five kids and on the dole. He moved to a beech house in north west wales but can't find a job because he can't speak welsh. He would have had more chance finding a job in Manchester than the north west of wales. Still he and his family enjoys the sea air, nice beech on taxpayers money.
The clue here is immigrants that's people outside British borders, British people can move anywhere they like, get a grip pidlypoo....
Please do not argue with KIPPERS as the one true leader has stated there are approx 500 million people elligable to come here, he is of course right . he did not mention that these same people can go to Germany , France, Italy or any one of twenty odd countries. He also did not mention that 63 million UK citizens have the right to settle anywhere in the EU. Its strange that we never here Germans, Spanish, French Politicans ever moaning about that fact, maybe it's just FarAghe and his fruitcakes
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: welshmen says... Plaid Cymru Party of Wales, NO, Party of the rest of the world, yet again we have a British Political Party that want to stay in the EU and still let thousands of Immigrants into Wales from anywhere, their an embarrassment to the Welsh People, hope they never get into power along with LIB-LAB-CON.... Should we stop wealthy English OAP's from retiring here and putting a strain on the NHS. Have you heard about the man from Machester with five kids and on the dole. He moved to a beech house in north west wales but can't find a job because he can't speak welsh. He would have had more chance finding a job in Manchester than the north west of wales. Still he and his family enjoys the sea air, nice beech on taxpayers money.[/p][/quote]The clue here is immigrants that's people outside British borders, British people can move anywhere they like, get a grip pidlypoo....[/p][/quote]Please do not argue with KIPPERS as the one true leader has stated there are approx 500 million people elligable to come here, he is of course right . he did not mention that these same people can go to Germany , France, Italy or any one of twenty odd countries. He also did not mention that 63 million UK citizens have the right to settle anywhere in the EU. Its strange that we never here Germans, Spanish, French Politicans ever moaning about that fact, maybe it's just FarAghe and his fruitcakes BobEvams2014
  • Score: -2

8:09pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Mervyn James says...

BobEvams2014 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
pwlldu wrote:
welshmen says...

Plaid Cymru Party of Wales, NO, Party of the rest of the world, yet again we have a British Political Party that want to stay in the EU and still let thousands of Immigrants into Wales from anywhere, their an embarrassment to the Welsh People, hope they never get into power along with LIB-LAB-CON....

Should we stop wealthy English OAP's from retiring here and putting a strain on the NHS. Have you heard about the man from Machester with five kids and on the dole. He moved to a beech house in north west wales but can't find a job because he can't speak welsh. He would have had more chance finding a job in Manchester than the north west of wales. Still he and his family enjoys the sea air, nice beech on taxpayers money.
The clue here is immigrants that's people outside British borders, British people can move anywhere they like, get a grip pidlypoo....
Please do not argue with KIPPERS as the one true leader has stated there are approx 500 million people elligable to come here, he is of course right . he did not mention that these same people can go to Germany , France, Italy or any one of twenty odd countries. He also did not mention that 63 million UK citizens have the right to settle anywhere in the EU. Its strange that we never here Germans, Spanish, French Politicans ever moaning about that fact, maybe it's just FarAghe and his fruitcakes
But these countries aren't a stupid or as generous as the UK is, and unable to stop uncontrolled migration here, we have reached break point, where there are too many ancillary services required to service these people, even ones who should not be here, stay ad infinitum. Our health and education services cannot cope with the influx of so many migrants needing so much support just to squat illegally here. We were told only skilled workers could set up shop her,but they are streaming in with no qualifications at all, and operating their own black markets to ride out the provisional times where they cannot claim anything, then they emerge and start claiming the lot. The Euro prevents us putting them on the next transport back to where they came fro, or fining the European government for money they have taken under false pretense from here, to us its fraud, to them its gravy. When a migrant has been found guilty of theft or crime we want them out, freedom of movement law or not.
[quote][p][bold]BobEvams2014[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: welshmen says... Plaid Cymru Party of Wales, NO, Party of the rest of the world, yet again we have a British Political Party that want to stay in the EU and still let thousands of Immigrants into Wales from anywhere, their an embarrassment to the Welsh People, hope they never get into power along with LIB-LAB-CON.... Should we stop wealthy English OAP's from retiring here and putting a strain on the NHS. Have you heard about the man from Machester with five kids and on the dole. He moved to a beech house in north west wales but can't find a job because he can't speak welsh. He would have had more chance finding a job in Manchester than the north west of wales. Still he and his family enjoys the sea air, nice beech on taxpayers money.[/p][/quote]The clue here is immigrants that's people outside British borders, British people can move anywhere they like, get a grip pidlypoo....[/p][/quote]Please do not argue with KIPPERS as the one true leader has stated there are approx 500 million people elligable to come here, he is of course right . he did not mention that these same people can go to Germany , France, Italy or any one of twenty odd countries. He also did not mention that 63 million UK citizens have the right to settle anywhere in the EU. Its strange that we never here Germans, Spanish, French Politicans ever moaning about that fact, maybe it's just FarAghe and his fruitcakes[/p][/quote]But these countries aren't a stupid or as generous as the UK is, and unable to stop uncontrolled migration here, we have reached break point, where there are too many ancillary services required to service these people, even ones who should not be here, stay ad infinitum. Our health and education services cannot cope with the influx of so many migrants needing so much support just to squat illegally here. We were told only skilled workers could set up shop her,but they are streaming in with no qualifications at all, and operating their own black markets to ride out the provisional times where they cannot claim anything, then they emerge and start claiming the lot. The Euro prevents us putting them on the next transport back to where they came fro, or fining the European government for money they have taken under false pretense from here, to us its fraud, to them its gravy. When a migrant has been found guilty of theft or crime we want them out, freedom of movement law or not. Mervyn James
  • Score: 3

11:13pm Thu 10 Apr 14

Llanmartinangel says...

BobEvams2014 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
pwlldu wrote:
welshmen says...

Plaid Cymru Party of Wales, NO, Party of the rest of the world, yet again we have a British Political Party that want to stay in the EU and still let thousands of Immigrants into Wales from anywhere, their an embarrassment to the Welsh People, hope they never get into power along with LIB-LAB-CON....

Should we stop wealthy English OAP's from retiring here and putting a strain on the NHS. Have you heard about the man from Machester with five kids and on the dole. He moved to a beech house in north west wales but can't find a job because he can't speak welsh. He would have had more chance finding a job in Manchester than the north west of wales. Still he and his family enjoys the sea air, nice beech on taxpayers money.
The clue here is immigrants that's people outside British borders, British people can move anywhere they like, get a grip pidlypoo....
Please do not argue with KIPPERS as the one true leader has stated there are approx 500 million people elligable to come here, he is of course right . he did not mention that these same people can go to Germany , France, Italy or any one of twenty odd countries. He also did not mention that 63 million UK citizens have the right to settle anywhere in the EU. Its strange that we never here Germans, Spanish, French Politicans ever moaning about that fact, maybe it's just FarAghe and his fruitcakes
Aren't you curious though about why it is that people are so determined to come here that they will hang on lorry axles in France, to cross the channel? What is it that makes UK so desirable over France? Or any of the other safe EU countries you mention, that they cross to get here?
[quote][p][bold]BobEvams2014[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: welshmen says... Plaid Cymru Party of Wales, NO, Party of the rest of the world, yet again we have a British Political Party that want to stay in the EU and still let thousands of Immigrants into Wales from anywhere, their an embarrassment to the Welsh People, hope they never get into power along with LIB-LAB-CON.... Should we stop wealthy English OAP's from retiring here and putting a strain on the NHS. Have you heard about the man from Machester with five kids and on the dole. He moved to a beech house in north west wales but can't find a job because he can't speak welsh. He would have had more chance finding a job in Manchester than the north west of wales. Still he and his family enjoys the sea air, nice beech on taxpayers money.[/p][/quote]The clue here is immigrants that's people outside British borders, British people can move anywhere they like, get a grip pidlypoo....[/p][/quote]Please do not argue with KIPPERS as the one true leader has stated there are approx 500 million people elligable to come here, he is of course right . he did not mention that these same people can go to Germany , France, Italy or any one of twenty odd countries. He also did not mention that 63 million UK citizens have the right to settle anywhere in the EU. Its strange that we never here Germans, Spanish, French Politicans ever moaning about that fact, maybe it's just FarAghe and his fruitcakes[/p][/quote]Aren't you curious though about why it is that people are so determined to come here that they will hang on lorry axles in France, to cross the channel? What is it that makes UK so desirable over France? Or any of the other safe EU countries you mention, that they cross to get here? Llanmartinangel
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10:33pm Sat 12 Apr 14

pwlldu says...

Unionist propaganda, the same argument was used when every country tried to gain independance from the B. Empire.
Unionist propaganda, the same argument was used when every country tried to gain independance from the B. Empire. pwlldu
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2:15pm Sun 13 Apr 14

welshmen says...

pwlldu wrote:
Unionist propaganda, the same argument was used when every country tried to gain independance from the B. Empire.
Yeh, and since then they ALL want to be here, living for free, stop their free for everything and they will go to the next highest paying benefit country, yet the brainwashed STILL think that the loss of £148 BILLION to our country from immigration is OK priceless and clueless or are you a LIBLABCON, that will explain your thought track backward....
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: Unionist propaganda, the same argument was used when every country tried to gain independance from the B. Empire.[/p][/quote]Yeh, and since then they ALL want to be here, living for free, stop their free for everything and they will go to the next highest paying benefit country, yet the brainwashed STILL think that the loss of £148 BILLION to our country from immigration is OK priceless and clueless or are you a LIBLABCON, that will explain your thought track backward.... welshmen
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4:26pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Llanmartinangel says...

welshmen wrote:
pwlldu wrote:
Unionist propaganda, the same argument was used when every country tried to gain independance from the B. Empire.
Yeh, and since then they ALL want to be here, living for free, stop their free for everything and they will go to the next highest paying benefit country, yet the brainwashed STILL think that the loss of £148 BILLION to our country from immigration is OK priceless and clueless or are you a LIBLABCON, that will explain your thought track backward....
'or are you a LIBLABCON?'

Worse, Plaid I'm afraid. They don't do economics. It was a Plaid MP who says Wales needs MORE immigration and it'll be fine as long as they promise to stay in Wales. Nutters doesn't come close.
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: Unionist propaganda, the same argument was used when every country tried to gain independance from the B. Empire.[/p][/quote]Yeh, and since then they ALL want to be here, living for free, stop their free for everything and they will go to the next highest paying benefit country, yet the brainwashed STILL think that the loss of £148 BILLION to our country from immigration is OK priceless and clueless or are you a LIBLABCON, that will explain your thought track backward....[/p][/quote]'or are you a LIBLABCON?' Worse, Plaid I'm afraid. They don't do economics. It was a Plaid MP who says Wales needs MORE immigration and it'll be fine as long as they promise to stay in Wales. Nutters doesn't come close. Llanmartinangel
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4:39pm Sun 13 Apr 14

pwlldu says...

Wales do need more immigration, Wales need more doctors and nurses because Labour hasn't invested in our NHS. Wales has a skills shortage because Labour and the Tories both hasn't invested in apprenterships for our young. UKIP hasn't got the right local policies to help build Wales, they are also only worried about English voters where immigration seems to be a problem.
Wales do need more immigration, Wales need more doctors and nurses because Labour hasn't invested in our NHS. Wales has a skills shortage because Labour and the Tories both hasn't invested in apprenterships for our young. UKIP hasn't got the right local policies to help build Wales, they are also only worried about English voters where immigration seems to be a problem. pwlldu
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11:07pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Llanmartinangel says...

pwlldu wrote:
Wales do need more immigration, Wales need more doctors and nurses because Labour hasn't invested in our NHS. Wales has a skills shortage because Labour and the Tories both hasn't invested in apprenterships for our young. UKIP hasn't got the right local policies to help build Wales, they are also only worried about English voters where immigration seems to be a problem.
I think the question is: if you offer visas to people to work in Wales how do you then stop them from moving to elsewhere? The Shengen agreement allows free movement anywhere in the EU let alone the UK. Clue: teaching them Welsh won't help, it's just a stupid idea. Plaid is full of them.
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: Wales do need more immigration, Wales need more doctors and nurses because Labour hasn't invested in our NHS. Wales has a skills shortage because Labour and the Tories both hasn't invested in apprenterships for our young. UKIP hasn't got the right local policies to help build Wales, they are also only worried about English voters where immigration seems to be a problem.[/p][/quote]I think the question is: if you offer visas to people to work in Wales how do you then stop them from moving to elsewhere? The Shengen agreement allows free movement anywhere in the EU let alone the UK. Clue: teaching them Welsh won't help, it's just a stupid idea. Plaid is full of them. Llanmartinangel
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