Good riddance

STAGECOACH is another multinational firm that is the epitome of what is wrong with capitalist ventures and trickle-down economies. A company which has a profit margin on 5.35 per cent (Tesco is only 2.45 per cent). Yet they point the finger at the Welsh Government with funding cuts when it’s not that they can’t afford to run the buses, it’s just not profitable enough for them. I’m sure they could have made enough to get by., but not enough for a greedy big corporation to sniff at. A corporation that pays its workers a weak wage and rules with an iron fist. Goodbye Stagecoach, I hope this is part of a steady decline of your leech-like antics and the tenders go to either smaller firms or companies with a business model similar to Cardiff Bus.

Allan Rees Blackwood

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2:43pm Wed 30 Apr 14

pwlldu says...

Yet the Labour government can fund £50m for a profit losing airport. When most Welsh travellers catch a plane from Bristol, Birmingham and Manchester even London. I would trust Labour to run a charity shop.
Yet the Labour government can fund £50m for a profit losing airport. When most Welsh travellers catch a plane from Bristol, Birmingham and Manchester even London. I would trust Labour to run a charity shop. pwlldu
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2:55pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Llanmartinangel says...

pwlldu wrote:
Yet the Labour government can fund £50m for a profit losing airport. When most Welsh travellers catch a plane from Bristol, Birmingham and Manchester even London. I would trust Labour to run a charity shop.
Are you for real? Plaid voted IN FAVOUR OF buying the airport.

http://www.partyofwa
les.org/news/2012/10
/03/plaid-cymru-lead
er-calls-for-direct-
government-ownership
-in-cardiff-airport/


You don't even have a clue what they stand for and yet you are on here all the time making out they are the saviours of Wales. Get a grip for crying out loud.
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: Yet the Labour government can fund £50m for a profit losing airport. When most Welsh travellers catch a plane from Bristol, Birmingham and Manchester even London. I would trust Labour to run a charity shop.[/p][/quote]Are you for real? Plaid voted IN FAVOUR OF buying the airport. http://www.partyofwa les.org/news/2012/10 /03/plaid-cymru-lead er-calls-for-direct- government-ownership -in-cardiff-airport/ You don't even have a clue what they stand for and yet you are on here all the time making out they are the saviours of Wales. Get a grip for crying out loud. Llanmartinangel
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4:24pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Bobevans says...

The rot set in when Stagecoach were allowed to buy out the competing companies. Now with no real competition they can do what they please and do
The rot set in when Stagecoach were allowed to buy out the competing companies. Now with no real competition they can do what they please and do Bobevans
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6:46pm Wed 30 Apr 14

theviking666 says...

Allan, is that councillor, A.Rees of blackwood, not hiding are we?
Allan, is that councillor, A.Rees of blackwood, not hiding are we? theviking666
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8:40pm Wed 30 Apr 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

Stagecoach is owned by a devout Christian called Brian Souter who once campaigned against the repeal of the infamous Clause 28 which (similar to Putin's contemporary repressive laws) banned the 'promotion of homosexuality'. However, the difference is that I won't be mean and conclude that the reason that business is bad for them is down to God's punishment for their rampant homophobia, however much it may be true:)!
Stagecoach is owned by a devout Christian called Brian Souter who once campaigned against the repeal of the infamous Clause 28 which (similar to Putin's contemporary repressive laws) banned the 'promotion of homosexuality'. However, the difference is that I won't be mean and conclude that the reason that business is bad for them is down to God's punishment for their rampant homophobia, however much it may be true:)! Katie Re-Registered
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9:48am Thu 1 May 14

pwlldu says...

Llanmartinangel says... what makes you think I'm Plaid you UKIP supporter.
Llanmartinangel says... what makes you think I'm Plaid you UKIP supporter. pwlldu
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9:54am Thu 1 May 14

pwlldu says...

I didn't say buying the airport was a bad idea and come the Euro football championships it will provide much needed visitors. I still don't trust Labour with a charity shop. Labour's key policy was free bus passes for the OAP's they can't expect small bus companies to pay for their policy. Where a bigger company with more buses and routes can still provide a service but it needs to be paid by the Labour government. Its like a corner shop selling goods at a higher price than the supermarket who also got more selection.
I didn't say buying the airport was a bad idea and come the Euro football championships it will provide much needed visitors. I still don't trust Labour with a charity shop. Labour's key policy was free bus passes for the OAP's they can't expect small bus companies to pay for their policy. Where a bigger company with more buses and routes can still provide a service but it needs to be paid by the Labour government. Its like a corner shop selling goods at a higher price than the supermarket who also got more selection. pwlldu
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10:42am Thu 1 May 14

Llanmartinangel says...

pwlldu wrote:
Llanmartinangel says... what makes you think I'm Plaid you UKIP supporter.
I'm actually a Conservative supporter, not UKIP. And that's not a supporter of the current coalition by the way, although I do think they are the less bad option to the alternatives.
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: Llanmartinangel says... what makes you think I'm Plaid you UKIP supporter.[/p][/quote]I'm actually a Conservative supporter, not UKIP. And that's not a supporter of the current coalition by the way, although I do think they are the less bad option to the alternatives. Llanmartinangel
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1:52pm Thu 1 May 14

pwlldu says...

My point to Allan was don't complain about a bus company who is forced to cut local services because of under funding from Labour Assembly, while Labour spent £50m on buying an airport. Allan is playing a blame game which Labour is so good at. By blaming the bus company who is expected to fund Labour's policy. What next doctors, nurses and teachers working for free. Next he will be writing don't blame Labour for the cuts in local services, the state of the NHS and education blame the Tories.
My point to Allan was don't complain about a bus company who is forced to cut local services because of under funding from Labour Assembly, while Labour spent £50m on buying an airport. Allan is playing a blame game which Labour is so good at. By blaming the bus company who is expected to fund Labour's policy. What next doctors, nurses and teachers working for free. Next he will be writing don't blame Labour for the cuts in local services, the state of the NHS and education blame the Tories. pwlldu
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7:07pm Thu 1 May 14

varteg1 says...

Bobevans wrote:
The rot set in when Stagecoach were allowed to buy out the competing companies. Now with no real competition they can do what they please and do
Don't forget who deregulated the bus companies, leaving the door open to conglomerates such as Stagecoach to absorb competitors, as it effectively stifled the expansion aspirations of others.

Yes, smaller firms have survived, mainly because their operations have remained strictly local and which offer no serious competition to the larger firms who see little percentage in running small time operations.

It's all the same idealogical mind set that created British Gas (Centrica) and threw the electricity telephones and now Royal Mail amongst others, at the City for knockdown prices,
Profits from which once went directly to the Exchequer, (us that is) now flow in circular motions to anywhere except ourselves. So circular in fact, it needs armies of resolute experts in the field of financial fraud to eveb begin to look at how the money flows around and around.
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: The rot set in when Stagecoach were allowed to buy out the competing companies. Now with no real competition they can do what they please and do[/p][/quote]Don't forget who deregulated the bus companies, leaving the door open to conglomerates such as Stagecoach to absorb competitors, as it effectively stifled the expansion aspirations of others. Yes, smaller firms have survived, mainly because their operations have remained strictly local and which offer no serious competition to the larger firms who see little percentage in running small time operations. It's all the same idealogical mind set that created British Gas (Centrica) and threw the electricity telephones and now Royal Mail amongst others, at the City for knockdown prices, Profits from which once went directly to the Exchequer, (us that is) now flow in circular motions to anywhere except ourselves. So circular in fact, it needs armies of resolute experts in the field of financial fraud to eveb begin to look at how the money flows around and around. varteg1
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7:27pm Thu 1 May 14

varteg1 says...

pwlldu wrote:
My point to Allan was don't complain about a bus company who is forced to cut local services because of under funding from Labour Assembly, while Labour spent £50m on buying an airport. Allan is playing a blame game which Labour is so good at. By blaming the bus company who is expected to fund Labour's policy. What next doctors, nurses and teachers working for free. Next he will be writing don't blame Labour for the cuts in local services, the state of the NHS and education blame the Tories.
Don't try to be erudite in a field you are unfamiliar with.

Stagecoach amongst other massive operators do not need subsidies, such are simply sweeteners to keep them from paying out the right money on safe and modern transports from the massive profits they make, or maybe I should say, the massive subsidies they take from ALL taxpayers.

I look at corporations like Newport that still run a citizen transport system and regret the long gone days when virtually all towns of some size ran their own.

The government created those massive undertakings, Transport Act 1968,where city after city, town after town, were forced to relinquish their passenger transport to conglomerations, Selnec, (Manchester and south east Lancs) MPTE (Merseyside passenger transport) which took Birkenhead, Liverpool and Wallasey undertakings out of the hands of the local communities to create a baby just waiting for Heath and later Thatcher to deliver, straight in to the hands of the likes of Stagecoach and Arriva.

How Newport managed to fend off this beats me, maybe because at that time South ans East Wales were not homogenised enough.Unlike Manchester, Merseyside, Glasgow et al.

All sold for a mess of pottage, in financial terms.
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: My point to Allan was don't complain about a bus company who is forced to cut local services because of under funding from Labour Assembly, while Labour spent £50m on buying an airport. Allan is playing a blame game which Labour is so good at. By blaming the bus company who is expected to fund Labour's policy. What next doctors, nurses and teachers working for free. Next he will be writing don't blame Labour for the cuts in local services, the state of the NHS and education blame the Tories.[/p][/quote]Don't try to be erudite in a field you are unfamiliar with. Stagecoach amongst other massive operators do not need subsidies, such are simply sweeteners to keep them from paying out the right money on safe and modern transports from the massive profits they make, or maybe I should say, the massive subsidies they take from ALL taxpayers. I look at corporations like Newport that still run a citizen transport system and regret the long gone days when virtually all towns of some size ran their own. The government created those massive undertakings, Transport Act 1968,where city after city, town after town, were forced to relinquish their passenger transport to conglomerations, Selnec, (Manchester and south east Lancs) MPTE (Merseyside passenger transport) which took Birkenhead, Liverpool and Wallasey undertakings out of the hands of the local communities to create a baby just waiting for Heath and later Thatcher to deliver, straight in to the hands of the likes of Stagecoach and Arriva. How Newport managed to fend off this beats me, maybe because at that time South ans East Wales were not homogenised enough.Unlike Manchester, Merseyside, Glasgow et al. All sold for a mess of pottage, in financial terms. varteg1
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10:20pm Thu 1 May 14

Llanmartinangel says...

pwlldu wrote:
Llanmartinangel says... what makes you think I'm Plaid you UKIP supporter.
Well your posts underneath Jill Evans' letter are a bit of a clue. Would you like me to quote you?
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: Llanmartinangel says... what makes you think I'm Plaid you UKIP supporter.[/p][/quote]Well your posts underneath Jill Evans' letter are a bit of a clue. Would you like me to quote you? Llanmartinangel
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10:34am Tue 6 May 14

pwlldu says...

Llanmartinangel says... you rant like UKIP do you want me to quote you.
Llanmartinangel says... you rant like UKIP do you want me to quote you. pwlldu
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12:25am Sat 10 May 14

Campaign for better transport/Swites.org.uk says...

You must understand stagecoaches concerns thay are being hit buy better transport links, Thay don't like it when thay cannot monopolies links to there advantage. Trains in the western valley,(ebbw vale link) has cut into shareholders profits. So cut routes it is low profit make cost effective company's. Like Newport Bus taking up the slack and committing to sevice as
cardiff bus has done. Newport and cardiff bus work independently but with a commitment as a public service. Totally profit generating companies like stagecoach have there shareholders who want money not a service.
You must understand stagecoaches concerns thay are being hit buy better transport links, Thay don't like it when thay cannot monopolies links to there advantage. Trains in the western valley,(ebbw vale link) has cut into shareholders profits. So cut routes it is low profit make cost effective company's. Like Newport Bus taking up the slack and committing to sevice as cardiff bus has done. Newport and cardiff bus work independently but with a commitment as a public service. Totally profit generating companies like stagecoach have there shareholders who want money not a service. Campaign for better transport/Swites.org.uk
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10:35pm Tue 13 May 14

allanrees1980 says...

Sorry it been a while since I checked the Argos. Pwlldu your right I'm Labour, but trying to change twist the budget cuts to bus companies was not what I was trying to achieve.

Labour is what it means, representing those who provide the Labour and the people who use it . Stagecoach a multinational company who pays pittance, puts prices up for its customers and whose interests lie with shareholders not improving society. Im opposed to that. I do believe in competition, however i believe in ethical buisness practice. I know of three people who have worked for stagecoach, one was a trainee manager and left the company on principle due to its work ethic. Im all for the local firms taking on the routes, maybe even community business enterprises.

As for the airport, in the end we may not have ended up with the airport which would have done damage to wales in other economic forms. We've let it run itself independently, like Cardiff Bus runs itself but is actually some sort of subsidary of the city council. I'd like to see the railways run in a similar fassion.

Yet Pwlldu is a Plaid Cymru supporter, I always felt Plaid can be a bit liberal in their approach, thats why theres opposition from him over the airport. Liberals believe in free economies. I believe in a balanced economy. Plaid .......closet Welsh liberals?
Sorry it been a while since I checked the Argos. Pwlldu your right I'm Labour, but trying to change twist the budget cuts to bus companies was not what I was trying to achieve. Labour is what it means, representing those who provide the Labour and the people who use it . Stagecoach a multinational company who pays pittance, puts prices up for its customers and whose interests lie with shareholders not improving society. Im opposed to that. I do believe in competition, however i believe in ethical buisness practice. I know of three people who have worked for stagecoach, one was a trainee manager and left the company on principle due to its work ethic. Im all for the local firms taking on the routes, maybe even community business enterprises. As for the airport, in the end we may not have ended up with the airport which would have done damage to wales in other economic forms. We've let it run itself independently, like Cardiff Bus runs itself but is actually some sort of subsidary of the city council. I'd like to see the railways run in a similar fassion. Yet Pwlldu is a Plaid Cymru supporter, I always felt Plaid can be a bit liberal in their approach, thats why theres opposition from him over the airport. Liberals believe in free economies. I believe in a balanced economy. Plaid .......closet Welsh liberals? allanrees1980
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