Future fears

First published in Letters

AM I the only Welshman who is petrified by a Yes vote in Scotland in the Autumn Referendum on independence?

The fact all political parties represented in the Better Together anti-independence block seem to have made a complete hash, of their message, leads me to consider the awful consequences of our northern cousins leaving the Union.

In fact I believe that the antics of the governing party have made a Yes vote more likely than ever.

Wales’ political voice will disappear in Westminster should the Scots opt to go it alone.

Without Scotland, the House of Commons see a Tory majority in perpetuity.

Wales, with its traditional anti-Tory voting record will become an isolated province.

What really scares me is that if Scotland ploughs its own furrow, complete with European membership and in the Euro zone, and the UK leaves the European Union would there be voices in the traditional unionist camp in the Bay that may argue for a separate Wales?

Would some of our Labour AMs and Lib Dem AMs be tempted by independent political power in its own right?

I am really saddened that our own elected representatives in Wales have been strangely silent in vocally supporting the Better Together message.

Is the constant request for additional powers and additional members for the Assembly really a ploy to begin the process of a fully separate administration in Cardiff?

I hope not.

The views expressed are mine.

Andy Whitcombe West End Abercarn

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2:28pm Fri 9 May 14

Realist UK says...

Cameron calls for unity but secretly hopes there's a YES vote as labour will never ever again be in power. Milliband probably loses sleep for the same reasons. Clegg probably doesn't care as he loves the EU so much he awaits to be appointed the UK commissioner after Kinnocks had his fill. And Plaid continue to sabre-rattle over independence. I hope the vote is NO so that these islands remain UK.
Cameron calls for unity but secretly hopes there's a YES vote as labour will never ever again be in power. Milliband probably loses sleep for the same reasons. Clegg probably doesn't care as he loves the EU so much he awaits to be appointed the UK commissioner after Kinnocks had his fill. And Plaid continue to sabre-rattle over independence. I hope the vote is NO so that these islands remain UK. Realist UK
  • Score: 5

11:00pm Fri 9 May 14

landyman3030 says...

Realist UK wrote:
Cameron calls for unity but secretly hopes there's a YES vote as labour will never ever again be in power. Milliband probably loses sleep for the same reasons. Clegg probably doesn't care as he loves the EU so much he awaits to be appointed the UK commissioner after Kinnocks had his fill. And Plaid continue to sabre-rattle over independence. I hope the vote is NO so that these islands remain UK.
Cameron calls for unity but tries to then rip holes in the Welsh NHS standards of care. The NHS is lacking in many ways but it is across the UK that there are problems, not just in Wales. His pretence of grasping the nettle and telling off Wales serves nothing other than to be devisive at best, setting it out as us against them. I personally believe that the old adage united we stand, divided we fall is so true. We are joined by borders whilst we retain our own identity and have the fortunate geographic position of a sea defence. On the matter of Welsh Independance I see nothing of the antics from The Bay to deter me from the view that I was told by an old Tory stalwart at the time of the vote for replacing the Welsh Office. He said the only thing you will get if it goes ahead is a large bill for the welsh taxpayer to pay for all of their preening and posturing with no real powers to speak of. God was'nt he right. Stay together UK and unite in these troubled times.
[quote][p][bold]Realist UK[/bold] wrote: Cameron calls for unity but secretly hopes there's a YES vote as labour will never ever again be in power. Milliband probably loses sleep for the same reasons. Clegg probably doesn't care as he loves the EU so much he awaits to be appointed the UK commissioner after Kinnocks had his fill. And Plaid continue to sabre-rattle over independence. I hope the vote is NO so that these islands remain UK.[/p][/quote]Cameron calls for unity but tries to then rip holes in the Welsh NHS standards of care. The NHS is lacking in many ways but it is across the UK that there are problems, not just in Wales. His pretence of grasping the nettle and telling off Wales serves nothing other than to be devisive at best, setting it out as us against them. I personally believe that the old adage united we stand, divided we fall is so true. We are joined by borders whilst we retain our own identity and have the fortunate geographic position of a sea defence. On the matter of Welsh Independance I see nothing of the antics from The Bay to deter me from the view that I was told by an old Tory stalwart at the time of the vote for replacing the Welsh Office. He said the only thing you will get if it goes ahead is a large bill for the welsh taxpayer to pay for all of their preening and posturing with no real powers to speak of. God was'nt he right. Stay together UK and unite in these troubled times. landyman3030
  • Score: 3

11:17pm Fri 9 May 14

cymruamblyth says...

That is the most pretentious letter I've ever read!!!

"The views expressed are mine"

No **** Sherlock, who else's view would it have been?
That is the most pretentious letter I've ever read!!! "The views expressed are mine" No **** Sherlock, who else's view would it have been? cymruamblyth
  • Score: 2

9:03pm Sat 10 May 14

BobEvams2014 says...

When UKIP win the General Election, the one true leader will declare any ' yes ' vote invalid. Troops and Tanks will be sent into Holyrod Salmond arrested and the Union restored. Nigel will then declare himself Govenor General of Scotland, who will not be allowed to vote in any future Farage United Kingdom ( F.U.K) elections
When UKIP win the General Election, the one true leader will declare any ' yes ' vote invalid. Troops and Tanks will be sent into Holyrod Salmond arrested and the Union restored. Nigel will then declare himself Govenor General of Scotland, who will not be allowed to vote in any future Farage United Kingdom ( F.U.K) elections BobEvams2014
  • Score: -3

10:26pm Sat 10 May 14

pwlldu says...

When the Tory party get maggie two UKIP voters will soon drift back to their mother party. Wales is already left behind.
When the Tory party get maggie two UKIP voters will soon drift back to their mother party. Wales is already left behind. pwlldu
  • Score: -6

9:02am Mon 12 May 14

Mervyn James says...

landyman3030 wrote:
Realist UK wrote:
Cameron calls for unity but secretly hopes there's a YES vote as labour will never ever again be in power. Milliband probably loses sleep for the same reasons. Clegg probably doesn't care as he loves the EU so much he awaits to be appointed the UK commissioner after Kinnocks had his fill. And Plaid continue to sabre-rattle over independence. I hope the vote is NO so that these islands remain UK.
Cameron calls for unity but tries to then rip holes in the Welsh NHS standards of care. The NHS is lacking in many ways but it is across the UK that there are problems, not just in Wales. His pretence of grasping the nettle and telling off Wales serves nothing other than to be devisive at best, setting it out as us against them. I personally believe that the old adage united we stand, divided we fall is so true. We are joined by borders whilst we retain our own identity and have the fortunate geographic position of a sea defence. On the matter of Welsh Independance I see nothing of the antics from The Bay to deter me from the view that I was told by an old Tory stalwart at the time of the vote for replacing the Welsh Office. He said the only thing you will get if it goes ahead is a large bill for the welsh taxpayer to pay for all of their preening and posturing with no real powers to speak of. God was'nt he right. Stay together UK and unite in these troubled times.
Wales is a long way from any referendum re a break away from the UK, we still haven't got devolution working yet or, half the real powers they need to go for Independence, one doubts Westminster will give them those powers. They cannot afford to let Scotland AND Wales go it alone, or, Ireland to Follow. Scotland is well on the road, and has assets and drive, wales just has poverty and division, and a hard line who are unsure who the hell they are. I don't SEE any drive from the assembly for welsh Independence, where is the idea coming from but Plaid ? It's not a labour majority policy either. Plaid would have been well away years ago, but for the actions of Kinnock and others, who accused them all of being arsonists and terrorists and launched a huge smear campaign that taints Plaid to this day. Even here they are smearing a party that bears no relation at all to those claims, and now uses plaid as loony tunes party forcing welsh on people, again NOT the case ! Where is Kinnock now, counting his millions from Europe.....and the ex-speaker of the house in Westminster also welsh, who was bought off with a knighthood. A true example of 'welching'..... selling out own people for financial gain and a tin medal...
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Realist UK[/bold] wrote: Cameron calls for unity but secretly hopes there's a YES vote as labour will never ever again be in power. Milliband probably loses sleep for the same reasons. Clegg probably doesn't care as he loves the EU so much he awaits to be appointed the UK commissioner after Kinnocks had his fill. And Plaid continue to sabre-rattle over independence. I hope the vote is NO so that these islands remain UK.[/p][/quote]Cameron calls for unity but tries to then rip holes in the Welsh NHS standards of care. The NHS is lacking in many ways but it is across the UK that there are problems, not just in Wales. His pretence of grasping the nettle and telling off Wales serves nothing other than to be devisive at best, setting it out as us against them. I personally believe that the old adage united we stand, divided we fall is so true. We are joined by borders whilst we retain our own identity and have the fortunate geographic position of a sea defence. On the matter of Welsh Independance I see nothing of the antics from The Bay to deter me from the view that I was told by an old Tory stalwart at the time of the vote for replacing the Welsh Office. He said the only thing you will get if it goes ahead is a large bill for the welsh taxpayer to pay for all of their preening and posturing with no real powers to speak of. God was'nt he right. Stay together UK and unite in these troubled times.[/p][/quote]Wales is a long way from any referendum re a break away from the UK, we still haven't got devolution working yet or, half the real powers they need to go for Independence, one doubts Westminster will give them those powers. They cannot afford to let Scotland AND Wales go it alone, or, Ireland to Follow. Scotland is well on the road, and has assets and drive, wales just has poverty and division, and a hard line who are unsure who the hell they are. I don't SEE any drive from the assembly for welsh Independence, where is the idea coming from but Plaid ? It's not a labour majority policy either. Plaid would have been well away years ago, but for the actions of Kinnock and others, who accused them all of being arsonists and terrorists and launched a huge smear campaign that taints Plaid to this day. Even here they are smearing a party that bears no relation at all to those claims, and now uses plaid as loony tunes party forcing welsh on people, again NOT the case ! Where is Kinnock now, counting his millions from Europe.....and the ex-speaker of the house in Westminster also welsh, who was bought off with a knighthood. A true example of 'welching'..... selling out own people for financial gain and a tin medal... Mervyn James
  • Score: -2

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