Waste of life

First published in Letters

THERE was no mercy for 185,331 unborn children, according to abortion figures for the UK recently published for 2013.

Every year when the UK abortion statistics are published, we hope that by some extraordinary miracle there will be evidence that the relentless attack on the unborn human child through abortion is – if not yet at an end – at least showing some real signs of weakening.

The vast majority of abortions are, as ever, justified under Ground C (mental health of the women) and it is acknowledged in the Department of Health Report that there is no breakdown of what the mental health issues involved consist of.

In 2012, there were 180,117 such abortions and the number has risen to 180,680 in the 2013 table... for the mental health of the mother?

Is pregnancy such a dire threat to women’s mental health? Is anyone reading the growing body of evidence of abortion itself as a risk to mental health?

Norman Plaisted Vivian Road Newport

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1:59pm Thu 19 Jun 14

throwy1 says...

I would like to ask the writer firstly are you married, secondly has your wife ever had an abortion and thirdly has any member if your immediate family had an abortion?
I would like to ask the writer firstly are you married, secondly has your wife ever had an abortion and thirdly has any member if your immediate family had an abortion? throwy1
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3:14pm Thu 19 Jun 14

exMark says...

Newport Abortion Clinic - "No Fetus will Beat us!"
Newport Abortion Clinic - "No Fetus will Beat us!" exMark
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4:17pm Thu 19 Jun 14

-trigg- says...

185,331 unborn children seriously underestimates the actual number. A man will deliver on average 350 million sperm per ****. The amount of these that were wasted in the UK in the last year is beyond calculation.

Now you may say that a sperm is not an "unborn child", but then neither are the 185,331 "unborn children" mentioned in this report. In both cases, they are cells with the potential to become children.
185,331 unborn children seriously underestimates the actual number. A man will deliver on average 350 million sperm per ****. The amount of these that were wasted in the UK in the last year is beyond calculation. Now you may say that a sperm is not an "unborn child", but then neither are the 185,331 "unborn children" mentioned in this report. In both cases, they are cells with the potential to become children. -trigg-
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8:30pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

I wonder if medical science ever reaches the stage where it's possible to tell if a foetus in the womb is going to grow up to be an LGBT person whether certain notoriously homophobic and transphobic religious groups will be so anti-abortion then?
I wonder if medical science ever reaches the stage where it's possible to tell if a foetus in the womb is going to grow up to be an LGBT person whether certain notoriously homophobic and transphobic religious groups will be so anti-abortion then? Katie Re-Registered
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8:37am Fri 20 Jun 14

Mervyn James says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
I wonder if medical science ever reaches the stage where it's possible to tell if a foetus in the womb is going to grow up to be an LGBT person whether certain notoriously homophobic and transphobic religious groups will be so anti-abortion then?
I think you are stretching it a bit ! Discrimination, which is the correct term as nobody buys the own tags minorities use, because that creates more discrimination by labeling people, so in the end they use the tags as a badges of honour (Like ASBO's have become). Homophobia must be the term that has made for more opposition to gender minorities than anything and has annoyed right-minded people, especially as Gays used it as a form of abuse and blunt instrument, and targeted everyone who had issues with Homosexuality (Which is about 70% currently). It effectively killed reasonable debate because Gays used the law to stifle discussion, and attack anyone who raised an issue, they immediately got the homphobic tag. same thing for 'racists' which applies to everyone white at present. If minorities want respect and acceptance they need to drop the labels. Is it not a kind of reverse issue, whereby minorities apply tags to people because they don't want tags applied to themselves, they need to get sorted. Why does everyone and their cat need a label stuck on them ? I never come into any social contact with Gays etc, they have their world we have ours. I have foud the best way to deal with all this nonsense is simply to avoid them all as much as possible, no contact, no issues.
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: I wonder if medical science ever reaches the stage where it's possible to tell if a foetus in the womb is going to grow up to be an LGBT person whether certain notoriously homophobic and transphobic religious groups will be so anti-abortion then?[/p][/quote]I think you are stretching it a bit ! Discrimination, which is the correct term as nobody buys the own tags minorities use, because that creates more discrimination by labeling people, so in the end they use the tags as a badges of honour (Like ASBO's have become). Homophobia must be the term that has made for more opposition to gender minorities than anything and has annoyed right-minded people, especially as Gays used it as a form of abuse and blunt instrument, and targeted everyone who had issues with Homosexuality (Which is about 70% currently). It effectively killed reasonable debate because Gays used the law to stifle discussion, and attack anyone who raised an issue, they immediately got the homphobic tag. same thing for 'racists' which applies to everyone white at present. If minorities want respect and acceptance they need to drop the labels. Is it not a kind of reverse issue, whereby minorities apply tags to people because they don't want tags applied to themselves, they need to get sorted. Why does everyone and their cat need a label stuck on them ? I never come into any social contact with Gays etc, they have their world we have ours. I have foud the best way to deal with all this nonsense is simply to avoid them all as much as possible, no contact, no issues. Mervyn James
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12:16pm Fri 20 Jun 14

jimmytheone2 says...

Mervyn James wrote:
Katie Re-Registered wrote:
I wonder if medical science ever reaches the stage where it's possible to tell if a foetus in the womb is going to grow up to be an LGBT person whether certain notoriously homophobic and transphobic religious groups will be so anti-abortion then?
I think you are stretching it a bit ! Discrimination, which is the correct term as nobody buys the own tags minorities use, because that creates more discrimination by labeling people, so in the end they use the tags as a badges of honour (Like ASBO's have become). Homophobia must be the term that has made for more opposition to gender minorities than anything and has annoyed right-minded people, especially as Gays used it as a form of abuse and blunt instrument, and targeted everyone who had issues with Homosexuality (Which is about 70% currently). It effectively killed reasonable debate because Gays used the law to stifle discussion, and attack anyone who raised an issue, they immediately got the homphobic tag. same thing for 'racists' which applies to everyone white at present. If minorities want respect and acceptance they need to drop the labels. Is it not a kind of reverse issue, whereby minorities apply tags to people because they don't want tags applied to themselves, they need to get sorted. Why does everyone and their cat need a label stuck on them ? I never come into any social contact with Gays etc, they have their world we have ours. I have foud the best way to deal with all this nonsense is simply to avoid them all as much as possible, no contact, no issues.
So Mervyn, if one of your children (not sure of your family status - you may well be gay) announced they were gay would you apply your line above?

"..the best way to deal with all this nonsense is simply to avoid them all as much as possible, no contact, no issues."

Would you really want to avoid your own children? I do hope that's not the case.
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: I wonder if medical science ever reaches the stage where it's possible to tell if a foetus in the womb is going to grow up to be an LGBT person whether certain notoriously homophobic and transphobic religious groups will be so anti-abortion then?[/p][/quote]I think you are stretching it a bit ! Discrimination, which is the correct term as nobody buys the own tags minorities use, because that creates more discrimination by labeling people, so in the end they use the tags as a badges of honour (Like ASBO's have become). Homophobia must be the term that has made for more opposition to gender minorities than anything and has annoyed right-minded people, especially as Gays used it as a form of abuse and blunt instrument, and targeted everyone who had issues with Homosexuality (Which is about 70% currently). It effectively killed reasonable debate because Gays used the law to stifle discussion, and attack anyone who raised an issue, they immediately got the homphobic tag. same thing for 'racists' which applies to everyone white at present. If minorities want respect and acceptance they need to drop the labels. Is it not a kind of reverse issue, whereby minorities apply tags to people because they don't want tags applied to themselves, they need to get sorted. Why does everyone and their cat need a label stuck on them ? I never come into any social contact with Gays etc, they have their world we have ours. I have foud the best way to deal with all this nonsense is simply to avoid them all as much as possible, no contact, no issues.[/p][/quote]So Mervyn, if one of your children (not sure of your family status - you may well be gay) announced they were gay would you apply your line above? "..the best way to deal with all this nonsense is simply to avoid them all as much as possible, no contact, no issues." Would you really want to avoid your own children? I do hope that's not the case. jimmytheone2
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8:55am Sat 21 Jun 14

Mervyn James says...

False argument. No-one knows what you will feel if these serious issues present themselves. For many of us homosexuality is not right. heterosexuality is. I am concerned about 'awareness' being channeled at children and in education, also gay lobbies wanting to lower and lower the ages of consent too. I wonder where does gay recognition start, and paedophillia become a norm ? and acceptance because of the Gay thing. I Understand the gay lobby and cest la vie areas see some of these views as discriminatory/homop
hobic etc, do not care what they think. I suggest these questions HAVE to be answered if only to clarify the areas and concerns many hold, had it not been for the rabid assaults on issues being raised,maybe the Gay would not be under fire for what goes on. The fact they threaten court action and operate a name calling approach just polarisies. OK a lot of people won';t go into print or public and say what they feel as a result, but can driving it underground make an iota of difference ? When you watch people like Tatchel and Stephen Fry making lecherous comments about sodomising young boys, then for me that raises issues. That Fry does it in a humorous way doesn't detract from it for me. neither does Tatchel's obvious hatred for religion and his assault on it. This is disrespecting and non-accepting people's belief. he may want a return to Sodom and Gomorrah a lot of us do not. I'm unconvinced by his discrimination argument.
False argument. No-one knows what you will feel if these serious issues present themselves. For many of us homosexuality is not right. heterosexuality is. I am concerned about 'awareness' being channeled at children and in education, also gay lobbies wanting to lower and lower the ages of consent too. I wonder where does gay recognition start, and paedophillia become a norm ? and acceptance because of the Gay thing. I Understand the gay lobby and cest la vie areas see some of these views as discriminatory/homop hobic etc, do not care what they think. I suggest these questions HAVE to be answered if only to clarify the areas and concerns many hold, had it not been for the rabid assaults on issues being raised,maybe the Gay would not be under fire for what goes on. The fact they threaten court action and operate a name calling approach just polarisies. OK a lot of people won';t go into print or public and say what they feel as a result, but can driving it underground make an iota of difference ? When you watch people like Tatchel and Stephen Fry making lecherous comments about sodomising young boys, then for me that raises issues. That Fry does it in a humorous way doesn't detract from it for me. neither does Tatchel's obvious hatred for religion and his assault on it. This is disrespecting and non-accepting people's belief. he may want a return to Sodom and Gomorrah a lot of us do not. I'm unconvinced by his discrimination argument. Mervyn James
  • Score: 2

11:35am Mon 23 Jun 14

cath 872 says...

Mervyn James

What has abortion got to do with homosexuality?
N. Plaisted has been writing these letters for so long now I wonder if he/she has a job?
Mervyn James What has abortion got to do with homosexuality? N. Plaisted has been writing these letters for so long now I wonder if he/she has a job? cath 872
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8:15pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Mervyn James says...

cath 872 wrote:
Mervyn James

What has abortion got to do with homosexuality?
N. Plaisted has been writing these letters for so long now I wonder if he/she has a job?
Sorry was responding to Katie. Re Abortion, women's body, women's rights, I just wish some of them learnt to read or had sex education or took family planning lessons, the only disagreement I would have is those, where women have have got pregnant and ignorant of how or why, Virgin Births were 2000 years ago.... 50 years ago you got pregnant there was abortion too, and women died by back street abortionists, now they can get pregnant as often as they want with any number of men they want. They know what to do to prevent pregnancy, or perhaps they don't ? Have men to be responsible ? yes, but they won't, they don't carry the child. With schools handing out birth pills and they STILL get pregnant at 14, I suggest the battle is lost. As the condom advert says, buy me and stop one our women-folk are illiterate.
[quote][p][bold]cath 872[/bold] wrote: Mervyn James What has abortion got to do with homosexuality? N. Plaisted has been writing these letters for so long now I wonder if he/she has a job?[/p][/quote]Sorry was responding to Katie. Re Abortion, women's body, women's rights, I just wish some of them learnt to read or had sex education or took family planning lessons, the only disagreement I would have is those, where women have have got pregnant and ignorant of how or why, Virgin Births were 2000 years ago.... 50 years ago you got pregnant there was abortion too, and women died by back street abortionists, now they can get pregnant as often as they want with any number of men they want. They know what to do to prevent pregnancy, or perhaps they don't ? Have men to be responsible ? yes, but they won't, they don't carry the child. With schools handing out birth pills and they STILL get pregnant at 14, I suggest the battle is lost. As the condom advert says, buy me and stop one our women-folk are illiterate. Mervyn James
  • Score: 2

11:22pm Mon 23 Jun 14

cath 872 says...

Mervyn James

Sorry, but you do understand how women get pregnant, yes? If men used condoms this wouldn't happen. You are right, virgin births don't happen (and never have), and men won't take responsibility, but thats a shame on the male of the species. Please don't assume that the 'women folk' are illiterate, some men can't read either. Maybe you could also take into account that a lot of women are coerced into sex, and even raped. Men are physically stronger than women, and some use this to their advantage, sadly. I do, however, think that SOME women use pregnancy to their advantage, agreed, but it's unfair to lump everyone together in this way.
Mervyn James Sorry, but you do understand how women get pregnant, yes? If men used condoms this wouldn't happen. You are right, virgin births don't happen (and never have), and men won't take responsibility, but thats a shame on the male of the species. Please don't assume that the 'women folk' are illiterate, some men can't read either. Maybe you could also take into account that a lot of women are coerced into sex, and even raped. Men are physically stronger than women, and some use this to their advantage, sadly. I do, however, think that SOME women use pregnancy to their advantage, agreed, but it's unfair to lump everyone together in this way. cath 872
  • Score: -1

9:11am Tue 24 Jun 14

mrleebob says...

I can always tell a Norman Plaisted letter simply by the title. This comes in handy as it means I can avoid reading further and suffering his sanctimonious, better than thou preaching.
I can always tell a Norman Plaisted letter simply by the title. This comes in handy as it means I can avoid reading further and suffering his sanctimonious, better than thou preaching. mrleebob
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