Council pay

First published in Letters

I HAVE read with interest in your pages about local council planned pay increases. Strange how the 1 per cent increases only ever refer to the lower grades/wage earners. When low increases are agreed, they should refer to all – senior officers, officers, councillors and all employees. Everyone across the board. A case can always be made that to have/keep the best, the pay must be high. Well, that applies at every level. I also think that no-one paid out of the public purse should, under any circumstances, receive a wage higher than the prime minister.

Jean Gray, The Wades, Cwmbran

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6:13pm Mon 21 Jul 14

Milkmanofhumankindness says...

I think you will find that some of the low paid council workers still have not received the 1% pay deal from 2010 never mind the one workers are fighting for now, and on top of that are not being paid the grade that they should be on!, you seek help and When you have a fair pay deal on the table and in writing and you shake on it with the clerk you expect it to go through.
However when a Labour councillor puts the kibosh on it and a gagging order on other members who try to help!! and a further 5 months later nothing happens, then you start scratching your head.
And when your involved Union rep happens to be an ex councillor with mixed loyalties then there’s no hope. The National Labour message is not being upheld locally in Torfaen.
Local Labour councillors would rather spend on nonsense than and wages.
They wonder why people are turning away from Labour:

Example, please read:

https://t.co/bj9Kh8S
nol
I think you will find that some of the low paid council workers still have not received the 1% pay deal from 2010 never mind the one workers are fighting for now, and on top of that are not being paid the grade that they should be on!, you seek help and When you have a fair pay deal on the table and in writing and you shake on it with the clerk you expect it to go through. However when a Labour councillor puts the kibosh on it and a gagging order on other members who try to help!! and a further 5 months later nothing happens, then you start scratching your head. And when your involved Union rep happens to be an ex councillor with mixed loyalties then there’s no hope. The National Labour message is not being upheld locally in Torfaen. Local Labour councillors would rather spend on nonsense than and wages. They wonder why people are turning away from Labour: Example, please read: https://t.co/bj9Kh8S nol Milkmanofhumankindness
  • Score: 6

7:32pm Mon 21 Jul 14

bugsy93 says...

It is obvious that Councillors loyalties are not with the people that voted them in.Once in office suddenly they act like sheep and afraid to go against the decisions made at a higher level, and put their own gravy train at risk.
Just like the bankers they get paid obscene salaries for failure.
We are led to believe that they pay the best salaries to get the best people for the job, this could not be further from reality. It is these overpaid useless fatcats that are putting the public funded bodies in the financial mess they are in. There is nothing like experience and common sense, without these a degree on a bit of paper is useless.
And our Councillors are blinded by their own rewards of silly titles to boost their own finances and 'not to rock the boat'.
We all should remember this at next year's General election and our local elections when the local candidates knock our doors with empty promises.
It is obvious that Councillors loyalties are not with the people that voted them in.Once in office suddenly they act like sheep and afraid to go against the decisions made at a higher level, and put their own gravy train at risk. Just like the bankers they get paid obscene salaries for failure. We are led to believe that they pay the best salaries to get the best people for the job, this could not be further from reality. It is these overpaid useless fatcats that are putting the public funded bodies in the financial mess they are in. There is nothing like experience and common sense, without these a degree on a bit of paper is useless. And our Councillors are blinded by their own rewards of silly titles to boost their own finances and 'not to rock the boat'. We all should remember this at next year's General election and our local elections when the local candidates knock our doors with empty promises. bugsy93
  • Score: 6

8:11am Tue 22 Jul 14

Bobevans says...

There is a very strong case for having far fewer local councils and even with the fewer councils back office jobs can be centralized. Does each council need a full senior management team? It is a bit like Tesco's having a full board of directors in every branch

There are massive savings to be made in local government. Having fewer councils dose not mean less accountability. Most large private companies will for example contract out facilities which is thing like catering, security, call centre, maintenance etc and they still have full accountability and they don't pay a £100 to have a light bulb changed
There is a very strong case for having far fewer local councils and even with the fewer councils back office jobs can be centralized. Does each council need a full senior management team? It is a bit like Tesco's having a full board of directors in every branch There are massive savings to be made in local government. Having fewer councils dose not mean less accountability. Most large private companies will for example contract out facilities which is thing like catering, security, call centre, maintenance etc and they still have full accountability and they don't pay a £100 to have a light bulb changed Bobevans
  • Score: 1

8:21pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Llanmartingargoyle says...

Look its quite simple, everybody stop selling arms to Russia, except for us British, give more money to bankers and the wealthy,it will soon trickle down to the workingpoor then they can have an almost decent wage, they just need to keep on a low wage and zero hours until then.
Get rid of the WAG because Wales does not exist never has done.
And for anybody worried about the cuts, Don’t! Its all going to be all right because under Tory leadership those up the top of the ladder will be handsomely rewarded and in time their wise investing and willingness to help the country will all trickle down to the workingpoor at the bottom of the ladder, they will be able to but a good quality torch.
There now you feel better don’t you?
Just rejoice at that news

Check out the facts of trickle down economics:

http://youtu.be/3U1D
_T-tSTw
Look its quite simple, everybody stop selling arms to Russia, except for us British, give more money to bankers and the wealthy,it will soon trickle down to the workingpoor then they can have an almost decent wage, they just need to keep on a low wage and zero hours until then. Get rid of the WAG because Wales does not exist never has done. And for anybody worried about the cuts, Don’t! Its all going to be all right because under Tory leadership those up the top of the ladder will be handsomely rewarded and in time their wise investing and willingness to help the country will all trickle down to the workingpoor at the bottom of the ladder, they will be able to but a good quality torch. There now you feel better don’t you? Just rejoice at that news Check out the facts of trickle down economics: http://youtu.be/3U1D _T-tSTw Llanmartingargoyle
  • Score: 0

8:24pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Llanmartingargoyle says...

erase: " they will be able to but a good quality torch"

Bloody mass publication tiredness!!
erase: " they will be able to but a good quality torch" Bloody mass publication tiredness!! Llanmartingargoyle
  • Score: 0

11:23am Thu 24 Jul 14

Bobevans says...

Milkmanofhumankindne
ss
wrote:
I think you will find that some of the low paid council workers still have not received the 1% pay deal from 2010 never mind the one workers are fighting for now, and on top of that are not being paid the grade that they should be on!, you seek help and When you have a fair pay deal on the table and in writing and you shake on it with the clerk you expect it to go through.
However when a Labour councillor puts the kibosh on it and a gagging order on other members who try to help!! and a further 5 months later nothing happens, then you start scratching your head.
And when your involved Union rep happens to be an ex councillor with mixed loyalties then there’s no hope. The National Labour message is not being upheld locally in Torfaen.
Local Labour councillors would rather spend on nonsense than and wages.
They wonder why people are turning away from Labour:

Example, please read:

https://t.co/bj9Kh8S

nol
The only way pay rises are viable at present is if efficiency gains are made and the headcount reduced. It ay be tough but that the real world
[quote][p][bold]Milkmanofhumankindne ss[/bold] wrote: I think you will find that some of the low paid council workers still have not received the 1% pay deal from 2010 never mind the one workers are fighting for now, and on top of that are not being paid the grade that they should be on!, you seek help and When you have a fair pay deal on the table and in writing and you shake on it with the clerk you expect it to go through. However when a Labour councillor puts the kibosh on it and a gagging order on other members who try to help!! and a further 5 months later nothing happens, then you start scratching your head. And when your involved Union rep happens to be an ex councillor with mixed loyalties then there’s no hope. The National Labour message is not being upheld locally in Torfaen. Local Labour councillors would rather spend on nonsense than and wages. They wonder why people are turning away from Labour: Example, please read: https://t.co/bj9Kh8S nol[/p][/quote]The only way pay rises are viable at present is if efficiency gains are made and the headcount reduced. It ay be tough but that the real world Bobevans
  • Score: 0

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