Crocodile tears

First published in Letters

I AM most amused to see Labour councillors who voted for cuts to public services now crying crocodile tears over the fact that they chose to adhere to the dictates of the capitalist neo-liberalist austerity programme enacted out with such callous viciousness by the Con/Dem government! Remember it was the Labour party who bailed out the bankers/financial institutions with trillions of pounds worth of public monies. Now we are told to embrace austerity (mass unemployment, low wages, food banks and cuts to welfare and public services etc) whilst the mega rich global 0.001 per cent make vast profits by exploiting us!

Terry Banfield, Cardigan Crescent, Cwmbran

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4:24pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Nig says...

Terry Labour wanted to reduce the deficit over a longer period, which would have resulted in fewer cuts. It was the Tories who promised to eliminate the deficit in the 5 year parliament by cutting welfare and increasing VAT by 2.5% , this policy has not only failed it held back any recovery and left the poor to foot the bill for the bankers, All western countries bailed out the bankers , however the Tories left them alone , whereas other countries have acted to ensure that the banks are properly regulated. I would add that the bailout means that the Uk TaxPayer owns billions in shares , which can be cashed in , this will help reduce government debt.
Terry Labour wanted to reduce the deficit over a longer period, which would have resulted in fewer cuts. It was the Tories who promised to eliminate the deficit in the 5 year parliament by cutting welfare and increasing VAT by 2.5% , this policy has not only failed it held back any recovery and left the poor to foot the bill for the bankers, All western countries bailed out the bankers , however the Tories left them alone , whereas other countries have acted to ensure that the banks are properly regulated. I would add that the bailout means that the Uk TaxPayer owns billions in shares , which can be cashed in , this will help reduce government debt. Nig
  • Score: -8

4:41pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

Citizen Banfield is back from his holiday in North Korea. Nice string of leftie textbook adjectives but you forgot your trademark 'ideologically led'.
Citizen Banfield is back from his holiday in North Korea. Nice string of leftie textbook adjectives but you forgot your trademark 'ideologically led'. Stevenboy
  • Score: 12

5:06pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Realist UK says...

Meanwhile, Labour led Caerphilly Council install pay & display at local parks to counteract the "savage Tory cuts" which embraces Tory ideology of making the poor poorer. You couldn't make it up.
Meanwhile, Labour led Caerphilly Council install pay & display at local parks to counteract the "savage Tory cuts" which embraces Tory ideology of making the poor poorer. You couldn't make it up. Realist UK
  • Score: -5

6:20pm Thu 21 Aug 14

mrleebob says...

Yet again on this website, express a left wing view and you can expect thumbs down.
Yet again on this website, express a left wing view and you can expect thumbs down. mrleebob
  • Score: 2

10:50pm Thu 21 Aug 14

Magor says...

Who robbed workers pensions,sold gold off at rock bottom,flooded the country with cheap labour and gave the banks a free hand that lead to the debt we are in now? Yes you are right LABOUR=FAILURE.Never vote for them again!
Who robbed workers pensions,sold gold off at rock bottom,flooded the country with cheap labour and gave the banks a free hand that lead to the debt we are in now? Yes you are right LABOUR=FAILURE.Never vote for them again! Magor
  • Score: 11

12:26am Fri 22 Aug 14

brian819@btinternet.com says...

WHAT IS 'LEFT WING'. I HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN THIS TO MEAN THE COMMUNISTS AND THEIR PARTY. MAYBE I AM WRONG BUT IT CERTAINLY DIDN'T MEAN SOCIALISM. ESPECIALLY THE KIND OF SOCIALISM THAT EITHER NEW LABOUR OR THE PRESENT LABOUR FAVOUR.
ORIGINALLY, THE LABOUR PARTY WAS THE PARTY OF THE WORKING MAN AND I, FOR ONE, WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THAT IS STILL THE CASE. IF NOT, THEN THE WORKING MAN IS IN DIRE STRAIGHTS, WITH NO ONE TO TAKE HIS SIDE POLITICALLY.
WITH THE COMING GENERAL ELECTION,THE LABOUR PARTY HAS A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY, ONCE AGAIN, TO MAKE ITS MARK ON HISTORY. IT HAS STARTED WELL IN THE PAST, PROBABLY BETTER THAN IT IS DOING AT PRESENT, BUT WHAT IT NEEDS TO SHOW IS THAT IT REALLY IS PUTTING THE LOWER CLASSES TO THE FOREFRONT OF ITS PROGRAMME. IT SEEMS TO BE DOING THIS BUT IS ALSO SEEM TO BE HIGGLEDY-PIGGLEDY. NO DOUBT THIS PROBLEM WILL RESOLVE ITSELF WHEN ITS MANIFESTO COMES TOGETHER NEARER THE TIME OF THE ELECTION, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE ALL COULD SEE MUCH MORE OF THE FINISHED, WELL THOUGHT OUT ARTICLE,THAN WE CAN AT THE MOMENT.
BY THE WAY, I REALLY CAN'T SEE HOW THE LABOUR PARTY, OR ANY OTHER PARTY, FOR THAT MATTER, COULD FAIL TO SUPPORT THE BANKS BACK IN 2008/9 DOES ANY ONE REALISE THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN WORSE OFF THAN GREECE IF WE HAD NOT. WHAT IS WRONG IS LETTING THE BANKS OFF AS LIGHTLY AS WE HAVE, AND THAT IS DAMNED WRONG.
WHAT IS 'LEFT WING'. I HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN THIS TO MEAN THE COMMUNISTS AND THEIR PARTY. MAYBE I AM WRONG BUT IT CERTAINLY DIDN'T MEAN SOCIALISM. ESPECIALLY THE KIND OF SOCIALISM THAT EITHER NEW LABOUR OR THE PRESENT LABOUR FAVOUR. ORIGINALLY, THE LABOUR PARTY WAS THE PARTY OF THE WORKING MAN AND I, FOR ONE, WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THAT IS STILL THE CASE. IF NOT, THEN THE WORKING MAN IS IN DIRE STRAIGHTS, WITH NO ONE TO TAKE HIS SIDE POLITICALLY. WITH THE COMING GENERAL ELECTION,THE LABOUR PARTY HAS A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY, ONCE AGAIN, TO MAKE ITS MARK ON HISTORY. IT HAS STARTED WELL IN THE PAST, PROBABLY BETTER THAN IT IS DOING AT PRESENT, BUT WHAT IT NEEDS TO SHOW IS THAT IT REALLY IS PUTTING THE LOWER CLASSES TO THE FOREFRONT OF ITS PROGRAMME. IT SEEMS TO BE DOING THIS BUT IS ALSO SEEM TO BE HIGGLEDY-PIGGLEDY. NO DOUBT THIS PROBLEM WILL RESOLVE ITSELF WHEN ITS MANIFESTO COMES TOGETHER NEARER THE TIME OF THE ELECTION, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE ALL COULD SEE MUCH MORE OF THE FINISHED, WELL THOUGHT OUT ARTICLE,THAN WE CAN AT THE MOMENT. BY THE WAY, I REALLY CAN'T SEE HOW THE LABOUR PARTY, OR ANY OTHER PARTY, FOR THAT MATTER, COULD FAIL TO SUPPORT THE BANKS BACK IN 2008/9 DOES ANY ONE REALISE THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN WORSE OFF THAN GREECE IF WE HAD NOT. WHAT IS WRONG IS LETTING THE BANKS OFF AS LIGHTLY AS WE HAVE, AND THAT IS DAMNED WRONG. brian819@btinternet.com
  • Score: -10

7:42am Fri 22 Aug 14

allanrees1980 says...

If the banks had not been bailed out imagine that where people wages are paid into them and the employers (who pay the wages) money is also banked with them didn't have access to that money day to day business would grind to a halt . Businesses would cease to trade. Other banks could continue to trade, but there'd be a run on them for fear of loosing your cash and then they would collapse. No doubt hard cash would be hard to obtain and you would't be able to buy in you local shops let alone supermarkets. The full effect is hard to explain, as the intricacy of the financial system is very detailed. So if the banks had not been bailed the only people who would feel the full brunt of that are the majority of working class to middle earners as we'd be skint and jobless. I imagine the banks were bailed as a perceived necessity but I also imagine that would have been begrudgingly. The point of criticism is that the ConDems cut to fast and too hard, made people who rely or need services suffer. That is where the argument lies, how they as a government have done nothing else but squeeze and target the lower earners and it if it continues this way it will become nothing more than a depravity.
If the banks had not been bailed out imagine that where people wages are paid into them and the employers (who pay the wages) money is also banked with them didn't have access to that money day to day business would grind to a halt . Businesses would cease to trade. Other banks could continue to trade, but there'd be a run on them for fear of loosing your cash and then they would collapse. No doubt hard cash would be hard to obtain and you would't be able to buy in you local shops let alone supermarkets. The full effect is hard to explain, as the intricacy of the financial system is very detailed. So if the banks had not been bailed the only people who would feel the full brunt of that are the majority of working class to middle earners as we'd be skint and jobless. I imagine the banks were bailed as a perceived necessity but I also imagine that would have been begrudgingly. The point of criticism is that the ConDems cut to fast and too hard, made people who rely or need services suffer. That is where the argument lies, how they as a government have done nothing else but squeeze and target the lower earners and it if it continues this way it will become nothing more than a depravity. allanrees1980
  • Score: -5

9:51am Fri 22 Aug 14

pwlldu says...

While Labour Caerphilly council spend £130,000 on road safety lights that don't work. Labour is very good at playing the blame game, when they do all the cutting. Ed Balls and Ed Miliband told Labour controlled councils don't increase pay sector pay to save public services. What does Labour Caerphilly council done introduce the living wage, which will cost the council over the next four years over a million of pounds. Also a massive increase in pension contributions and payments.
While Labour Caerphilly council spend £130,000 on road safety lights that don't work. Labour is very good at playing the blame game, when they do all the cutting. Ed Balls and Ed Miliband told Labour controlled councils don't increase pay sector pay to save public services. What does Labour Caerphilly council done introduce the living wage, which will cost the council over the next four years over a million of pounds. Also a massive increase in pension contributions and payments. pwlldu
  • Score: 3

9:53am Fri 22 Aug 14

pwlldu says...

allanrees1980 says... Gordon Brown relaxed the regulations on the banking industry, so they were allowed to run their own affairs. Which was to make money of people who couldn't pay back the loans.
allanrees1980 says... Gordon Brown relaxed the regulations on the banking industry, so they were allowed to run their own affairs. Which was to make money of people who couldn't pay back the loans. pwlldu
  • Score: 2

9:56am Fri 22 Aug 14

pwlldu says...

brian819@btinternet.
com says... Sadly we will have a Tory/UKIP government next time or a Labour/Lib one which would be unlikely!!
brian819@btinternet. com says... Sadly we will have a Tory/UKIP government next time or a Labour/Lib one which would be unlikely!! pwlldu
  • Score: -3

10:00am Fri 22 Aug 14

pwlldu says...

Labour has already pledged to stick to the government's spending plans for the first year after the general election.
"No more borrowing for current spending under Labour," Mr Balls said in December. "There'll be spending cuts, there'll be tough decisions."

Shadow chancellor Ed Balls says a future Labour government would have to make cuts, because it wouldn't be able to 'magic away' a £90m deficit. Speaking to delegates at the Labour party conference in Brighton, he says: 'We won't be able to reverse all the spending cuts and tax rises the Tories have pushed through'
Ed Balls risks union anger in push to bolster Labour's economic credibility

Spending cuts and public sector pay freeze imposed by Conservatives will not be automatically overturned, says shadow chancellor.Balls said: "It is now inevitable that public sector pay restraint will have to continue through this parliament. Labour cannot duck that reality and won't. There is no way we should be arguing for higher pay when the choice is between higher pay and bringing unemployment down.
Labour has already pledged to stick to the government's spending plans for the first year after the general election. "No more borrowing for current spending under Labour," Mr Balls said in December. "There'll be spending cuts, there'll be tough decisions." Shadow chancellor Ed Balls says a future Labour government would have to make cuts, because it wouldn't be able to 'magic away' a £90m deficit. Speaking to delegates at the Labour party conference in Brighton, he says: 'We won't be able to reverse all the spending cuts and tax rises the Tories have pushed through' Ed Balls risks union anger in push to bolster Labour's economic credibility Spending cuts and public sector pay freeze imposed by Conservatives will not be automatically overturned, says shadow chancellor.Balls said: "It is now inevitable that public sector pay restraint will have to continue through this parliament. Labour cannot duck that reality and won't. There is no way we should be arguing for higher pay when the choice is between higher pay and bringing unemployment down. pwlldu
  • Score: -5

10:19am Fri 22 Aug 14

allanrees1980 says...

Pwlldu you're going to like most of what I say. Yes Gordon Brown relaxed the banks regulation an horrifically stupid and naive mistake. Like allowing alcoholics to have the key to the beer seller.

What Milliband and Balls say to councils in England doesn't apply to Wales. Furthermore the Tory's made pledges not to do a lot of things and stick to others - that went out the window. I don't hold any hope anyone else will keep 100% to what they promise. It's quite hard to do keep rigidly to what you do.

Although Ed says we won't be able to reverse the cuts, that has truth as when you cut something and it's gone it common sense to reinstate would also be at a cost.

Westminster is too far away for me. Labour and Welsh Labour have ties but I'm keen to do it our own way. Not I dependence Pwlldu, which I know you favour and I respect why, but Devo Max as a federal state. Let's watch what happens with Scotland in interest and then take the Welsh agenda to Westminster.
Pwlldu you're going to like most of what I say. Yes Gordon Brown relaxed the banks regulation an horrifically stupid and naive mistake. Like allowing alcoholics to have the key to the beer seller. What Milliband and Balls say to councils in England doesn't apply to Wales. Furthermore the Tory's made pledges not to do a lot of things and stick to others - that went out the window. I don't hold any hope anyone else will keep 100% to what they promise. It's quite hard to do keep rigidly to what you do. Although Ed says we won't be able to reverse the cuts, that has truth as when you cut something and it's gone it common sense to reinstate would also be at a cost. Westminster is too far away for me. Labour and Welsh Labour have ties but I'm keen to do it our own way. Not I dependence Pwlldu, which I know you favour and I respect why, but Devo Max as a federal state. Let's watch what happens with Scotland in interest and then take the Welsh agenda to Westminster. allanrees1980
  • Score: -12

9:59am Sat 23 Aug 14

pwlldu says...

So Allan is this another red water speech (like Rhodri Morgan) is Welsh Labour different from New Labour? In fact Welsh Labour is a branch of New Labour. As all welsh labour donations are given to the main New Labour account, who then issue each area with funding and policies to casmpaign on. This is why New labour in England don't want Scotland or Wales to become independant as their donations would become foreign donations.
So Allan is this another red water speech (like Rhodri Morgan) is Welsh Labour different from New Labour? In fact Welsh Labour is a branch of New Labour. As all welsh labour donations are given to the main New Labour account, who then issue each area with funding and policies to casmpaign on. This is why New labour in England don't want Scotland or Wales to become independant as their donations would become foreign donations. pwlldu
  • Score: -2

10:06am Sat 23 Aug 14

pwlldu says...

Labour candidate for Merthyr Huw Lewis accepted a £10,000 donation from key figure in a controversial opencast mine scheme. Huw lewis was given the money towards his leadership bid by Bernard Llewellyn. Mr Llewellyn is a leading figure in Miller Argent behind Ffos-y-fran opencast mine in Merthyr. As he don't live in Merthyr but the Vale of Glamorgan he don't worry about any pollution, unlike Merthyr people. I hope the people don't forget this and vote Plaid Cymru.
Labour candidate for Merthyr Huw Lewis accepted a £10,000 donation from key figure in a controversial opencast mine scheme. Huw lewis was given the money towards his leadership bid by Bernard Llewellyn. Mr Llewellyn is a leading figure in Miller Argent behind Ffos-y-fran opencast mine in Merthyr. As he don't live in Merthyr but the Vale of Glamorgan he don't worry about any pollution, unlike Merthyr people. I hope the people don't forget this and vote Plaid Cymru. pwlldu
  • Score: 2

10:09am Sat 23 Aug 14

pwlldu says...

The Labour-led Assembly Government has given over £2million of public money to Labour-donating trade unions. Revealed that £2.4million of public funds have been given to trade unions, which have made substantial donations to the Labour Party as well as Carwyn Jones’ leadership bid.Unison, which has received over £1million from the taxpayer since 2008, made a donation of £3,065 to Carwyn Jones’ leadership campaign, while another union in receipt of public money, the GMB, made donations totalling £14,197 to Peter Hain’s failed deputy leadership bid.
In total, the Welsh Government gave £2.4million to 15 trade unions over the past three years, including £225,000 to the union Community, which earlier this year bolstered Labour’s Assembly election campaign by making donations to marginal constituencies including Cardiff North.
The Labour-led Assembly Government has given over £2million of public money to Labour-donating trade unions. Revealed that £2.4million of public funds have been given to trade unions, which have made substantial donations to the Labour Party as well as Carwyn Jones’ leadership bid.Unison, which has received over £1million from the taxpayer since 2008, made a donation of £3,065 to Carwyn Jones’ leadership campaign, while another union in receipt of public money, the GMB, made donations totalling £14,197 to Peter Hain’s failed deputy leadership bid. In total, the Welsh Government gave £2.4million to 15 trade unions over the past three years, including £225,000 to the union Community, which earlier this year bolstered Labour’s Assembly election campaign by making donations to marginal constituencies including Cardiff North. pwlldu
  • Score: 2

2:12pm Sat 23 Aug 14

smokintheweed says...

brian819@btinternet.
com
wrote:
WHAT IS 'LEFT WING'. I HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN THIS TO MEAN THE COMMUNISTS AND THEIR PARTY. MAYBE I AM WRONG BUT IT CERTAINLY DIDN'T MEAN SOCIALISM. ESPECIALLY THE KIND OF SOCIALISM THAT EITHER NEW LABOUR OR THE PRESENT LABOUR FAVOUR.
ORIGINALLY, THE LABOUR PARTY WAS THE PARTY OF THE WORKING MAN AND I, FOR ONE, WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THAT IS STILL THE CASE. IF NOT, THEN THE WORKING MAN IS IN DIRE STRAIGHTS, WITH NO ONE TO TAKE HIS SIDE POLITICALLY.
WITH THE COMING GENERAL ELECTION,THE LABOUR PARTY HAS A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY, ONCE AGAIN, TO MAKE ITS MARK ON HISTORY. IT HAS STARTED WELL IN THE PAST, PROBABLY BETTER THAN IT IS DOING AT PRESENT, BUT WHAT IT NEEDS TO SHOW IS THAT IT REALLY IS PUTTING THE LOWER CLASSES TO THE FOREFRONT OF ITS PROGRAMME. IT SEEMS TO BE DOING THIS BUT IS ALSO SEEM TO BE HIGGLEDY-PIGGLEDY. NO DOUBT THIS PROBLEM WILL RESOLVE ITSELF WHEN ITS MANIFESTO COMES TOGETHER NEARER THE TIME OF THE ELECTION, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE ALL COULD SEE MUCH MORE OF THE FINISHED, WELL THOUGHT OUT ARTICLE,THAN WE CAN AT THE MOMENT.
BY THE WAY, I REALLY CAN'T SEE HOW THE LABOUR PARTY, OR ANY OTHER PARTY, FOR THAT MATTER, COULD FAIL TO SUPPORT THE BANKS BACK IN 2008/9 DOES ANY ONE REALISE THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN WORSE OFF THAN GREECE IF WE HAD NOT. WHAT IS WRONG IS LETTING THE BANKS OFF AS LIGHTLY AS WE HAVE, AND THAT IS DAMNED WRONG.
Take the caps lock off and I might be bothered to read that.
[quote][p][bold]brian819@btinternet. com[/bold] wrote: WHAT IS 'LEFT WING'. I HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN THIS TO MEAN THE COMMUNISTS AND THEIR PARTY. MAYBE I AM WRONG BUT IT CERTAINLY DIDN'T MEAN SOCIALISM. ESPECIALLY THE KIND OF SOCIALISM THAT EITHER NEW LABOUR OR THE PRESENT LABOUR FAVOUR. ORIGINALLY, THE LABOUR PARTY WAS THE PARTY OF THE WORKING MAN AND I, FOR ONE, WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THAT IS STILL THE CASE. IF NOT, THEN THE WORKING MAN IS IN DIRE STRAIGHTS, WITH NO ONE TO TAKE HIS SIDE POLITICALLY. WITH THE COMING GENERAL ELECTION,THE LABOUR PARTY HAS A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY, ONCE AGAIN, TO MAKE ITS MARK ON HISTORY. IT HAS STARTED WELL IN THE PAST, PROBABLY BETTER THAN IT IS DOING AT PRESENT, BUT WHAT IT NEEDS TO SHOW IS THAT IT REALLY IS PUTTING THE LOWER CLASSES TO THE FOREFRONT OF ITS PROGRAMME. IT SEEMS TO BE DOING THIS BUT IS ALSO SEEM TO BE HIGGLEDY-PIGGLEDY. NO DOUBT THIS PROBLEM WILL RESOLVE ITSELF WHEN ITS MANIFESTO COMES TOGETHER NEARER THE TIME OF THE ELECTION, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE ALL COULD SEE MUCH MORE OF THE FINISHED, WELL THOUGHT OUT ARTICLE,THAN WE CAN AT THE MOMENT. BY THE WAY, I REALLY CAN'T SEE HOW THE LABOUR PARTY, OR ANY OTHER PARTY, FOR THAT MATTER, COULD FAIL TO SUPPORT THE BANKS BACK IN 2008/9 DOES ANY ONE REALISE THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE BEEN WORSE OFF THAN GREECE IF WE HAD NOT. WHAT IS WRONG IS LETTING THE BANKS OFF AS LIGHTLY AS WE HAVE, AND THAT IS DAMNED WRONG.[/p][/quote]Take the caps lock off and I might be bothered to read that. smokintheweed
  • Score: 6

4:06pm Sat 23 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

allanrees1980 wrote:
Pwlldu you're going to like most of what I say. Yes Gordon Brown relaxed the banks regulation an horrifically stupid and naive mistake. Like allowing alcoholics to have the key to the beer seller.

What Milliband and Balls say to councils in England doesn't apply to Wales. Furthermore the Tory's made pledges not to do a lot of things and stick to others - that went out the window. I don't hold any hope anyone else will keep 100% to what they promise. It's quite hard to do keep rigidly to what you do.

Although Ed says we won't be able to reverse the cuts, that has truth as when you cut something and it's gone it common sense to reinstate would also be at a cost.

Westminster is too far away for me. Labour and Welsh Labour have ties but I'm keen to do it our own way. Not I dependence Pwlldu, which I know you favour and I respect why, but Devo Max as a federal state. Let's watch what happens with Scotland in interest and then take the Welsh agenda to Westminster.
'Furthermore the Tory's made pledges not to do a lot of things and stick to others - that went out the window'

A bit like Labour's pledge in 1997 not to increase taxes. And then spent the next thirteen years increasing around 140 of them. And blowing it on inflating the public sector which benefitted no-one. There are around 6000 heads working (???? - I use the term loosely) in WAG, not making a shred of difference to health or education here, their two principle remits. Imagine if those heads were Doctors, Nurses and Teachers. This stupid Nationalist agenda is a money pit.
[quote][p][bold]allanrees1980[/bold] wrote: Pwlldu you're going to like most of what I say. Yes Gordon Brown relaxed the banks regulation an horrifically stupid and naive mistake. Like allowing alcoholics to have the key to the beer seller. What Milliband and Balls say to councils in England doesn't apply to Wales. Furthermore the Tory's made pledges not to do a lot of things and stick to others - that went out the window. I don't hold any hope anyone else will keep 100% to what they promise. It's quite hard to do keep rigidly to what you do. Although Ed says we won't be able to reverse the cuts, that has truth as when you cut something and it's gone it common sense to reinstate would also be at a cost. Westminster is too far away for me. Labour and Welsh Labour have ties but I'm keen to do it our own way. Not I dependence Pwlldu, which I know you favour and I respect why, but Devo Max as a federal state. Let's watch what happens with Scotland in interest and then take the Welsh agenda to Westminster.[/p][/quote]'Furthermore the Tory's made pledges not to do a lot of things and stick to others - that went out the window' A bit like Labour's pledge in 1997 not to increase taxes. And then spent the next thirteen years increasing around 140 of them. And blowing it on inflating the public sector which benefitted no-one. There are around 6000 heads working (???? - I use the term loosely) in WAG, not making a shred of difference to health or education here, their two principle remits. Imagine if those heads were Doctors, Nurses and Teachers. This stupid Nationalist agenda is a money pit. Stevenboy
  • Score: 4

2:05pm Mon 25 Aug 14

welshmen says...

LIB/LAB CON, don't fall for their crap, vote UKIP get our Country back under our Control....
LIB/LAB CON, don't fall for their crap, vote UKIP get our Country back under our Control.... welshmen
  • Score: 0

3:13pm Mon 25 Aug 14

allanrees1980 says...

The comments from Pwlldu and Stevenboy I won't reply to. Try to seek a middle ground and they bring out the dirty dish water. You get a black cat and Pwlldu will try to get one blacker. Plus attacking the unions? that campaign for better work and pay mainly for lower earners, I think that's taking a shot gun and blowing you foot off in a Welsh context.

Anyhow lets get UKIP voted in. Say goodbye to the NHS, employment rights, minimum wage, anything that's not privatised will go. Most of the "vote UKIP" camp shout that out without understanding the consequence of what damage it will do except get us out of Europe and stop immigrants. Well that's will be fine and dandy, but if you think the Tories are to the right, UKIP will take us so far right that civil rights will have to be taken out of the English dictionary.
The comments from Pwlldu and Stevenboy I won't reply to. Try to seek a middle ground and they bring out the dirty dish water. You get a black cat and Pwlldu will try to get one blacker. Plus attacking the unions? that campaign for better work and pay mainly for lower earners, I think that's taking a shot gun and blowing you foot off in a Welsh context. Anyhow lets get UKIP voted in. Say goodbye to the NHS, employment rights, minimum wage, anything that's not privatised will go. Most of the "vote UKIP" camp shout that out without understanding the consequence of what damage it will do except get us out of Europe and stop immigrants. Well that's will be fine and dandy, but if you think the Tories are to the right, UKIP will take us so far right that civil rights will have to be taken out of the English dictionary. allanrees1980
  • Score: -2

7:24pm Tue 26 Aug 14

welshmen says...

UKIP is taking its biggest ever Annual Conference right into the backyard of Labour Leader Ed Miliband as we head to Doncaster Racecourse from September 25-27.....vote UKIP, hate LIB/LAB/CON/GREEN...
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UKIP is taking its biggest ever Annual Conference right into the backyard of Labour Leader Ed Miliband as we head to Doncaster Racecourse from September 25-27.....vote UKIP, hate LIB/LAB/CON/GREEN... . welshmen
  • Score: -1

10:54am Wed 27 Aug 14

welshmen says...

All this was put under the carpet on your Labour watch and continued under this useless lot of non leaders ConDem...

I remember when I posted some of this Muslim Grooming Gang information and accusations a year or so ago and got hammered by the PC leftist posters on here, who liked to call me a Racist Bigoted Islamophobe, well you were not on your own the Daily Mail stopped me posting about the Pakistani Sexual Grooming Gangs too, but in the end Nick Griffin was found to be correct in his accusations against these evil sexual perpetrators, all though not all Pakistani men but very near all were of that origin and also Muslim's..

I pasted this from the British National Parties Web Site:
Quote:
An independent enquiry has revealed the shocking extent of the abuse of more than 1,400 children in Rotherham alone, mostly by men of
‘Pakistani heritage’.
The enquiry forced on the authorities by a three-year Protect Children campaign run by the BNP has revealed... exactly what the BNP was warning people about all these years!
Research by BNP super-activist for Rotherham, Marlene Guest, provided the independent team with a wealth of material proving mass-scale abuse of children in the area.
The BNP has been warning of the threat to children by organised groups from the Muslim community across the country who have been preying on, raping and systematically abusing children form other communities.
Despite the BNP being proved time and time again to be right, the authorities have consistently done all they can to silence and persecute BNP spokesmen and women.
In 2003, the authorities, with help from the BBC, even tried to jail ex-BNP Chairman Nick Griffin for 7 years for warning people about it. un-quote....

We all like to point the finger, as others do when the general public are fed lies about the BNP, but this and other stories are now becoming to light and are not lies, we get fooled by Media who have another agenda for the owners to make sure the truth tellers are silenced,1400 young girls sexually abused since Nick Griffin warned the Police,lets hope that this is not repeated, with the Yewtree ongoing inquiry, how far will Government let it progress....Vote UKIP get this Country back to our rule....
All this was put under the carpet on your Labour watch and continued under this useless lot of non leaders ConDem... I remember when I posted some of this Muslim Grooming Gang information and accusations a year or so ago and got hammered by the PC leftist posters on here, who liked to call me a Racist Bigoted Islamophobe, well you were not on your own the Daily Mail stopped me posting about the Pakistani Sexual Grooming Gangs too, but in the end Nick Griffin was found to be correct in his accusations against these evil sexual perpetrators, all though not all Pakistani men but very near all were of that origin and also Muslim's.. I pasted this from the British National Parties Web Site: Quote: An independent enquiry has revealed the shocking extent of the abuse of more than 1,400 children in Rotherham alone, mostly by men of ‘Pakistani heritage’. The enquiry forced on the authorities by a three-year Protect Children campaign run by the BNP has revealed... exactly what the BNP was warning people about all these years! Research by BNP super-activist for Rotherham, Marlene Guest, provided the independent team with a wealth of material proving mass-scale abuse of children in the area. The BNP has been warning of the threat to children by organised groups from the Muslim community across the country who have been preying on, raping and systematically abusing children form other communities. Despite the BNP being proved time and time again to be right, the authorities have consistently done all they can to silence and persecute BNP spokesmen and women. In 2003, the authorities, with help from the BBC, even tried to jail ex-BNP Chairman Nick Griffin for 7 years for warning people about it. un-quote.... We all like to point the finger, as others do when the general public are fed lies about the BNP, but this and other stories are now becoming to light and are not lies, we get fooled by Media who have another agenda for the owners to make sure the truth tellers are silenced,1400 young girls sexually abused since Nick Griffin warned the Police,lets hope that this is not repeated, with the Yewtree ongoing inquiry, how far will Government let it progress....Vote UKIP get this Country back to our rule.... welshmen
  • Score: -2

3:03pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

Terry Banfield-welcome! You're Ken Slabb — "bearded, grenade-draped" perpetual president of Stretchford Student Union, another escapee from Way of the World, like me.
Terry Banfield-welcome! You're Ken Slabb — "bearded, grenade-draped" perpetual president of Stretchford Student Union, another escapee from Way of the World, like me. Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: 0

12:10pm Thu 28 Aug 14

allanrees1980 says...

welshmen wrote:
All this was put under the carpet on your Labour watch and continued under this useless lot of non leaders ConDem...

I remember when I posted some of this Muslim Grooming Gang information and accusations a year or so ago and got hammered by the PC leftist posters on here, who liked to call me a Racist Bigoted Islamophobe, well you were not on your own the Daily Mail stopped me posting about the Pakistani Sexual Grooming Gangs too, but in the end Nick Griffin was found to be correct in his accusations against these evil sexual perpetrators, all though not all Pakistani men but very near all were of that origin and also Muslim's..

I pasted this from the British National Parties Web Site:
Quote:
An independent enquiry has revealed the shocking extent of the abuse of more than 1,400 children in Rotherham alone, mostly by men of
‘Pakistani heritage’.
The enquiry forced on the authorities by a three-year Protect Children campaign run by the BNP has revealed... exactly what the BNP was warning people about all these years!
Research by BNP super-activist for Rotherham, Marlene Guest, provided the independent team with a wealth of material proving mass-scale abuse of children in the area.
The BNP has been warning of the threat to children by organised groups from the Muslim community across the country who have been preying on, raping and systematically abusing children form other communities.
Despite the BNP being proved time and time again to be right, the authorities have consistently done all they can to silence and persecute BNP spokesmen and women.
In 2003, the authorities, with help from the BBC, even tried to jail ex-BNP Chairman Nick Griffin for 7 years for warning people about it. un-quote....

We all like to point the finger, as others do when the general public are fed lies about the BNP, but this and other stories are now becoming to light and are not lies, we get fooled by Media who have another agenda for the owners to make sure the truth tellers are silenced,1400 young girls sexually abused since Nick Griffin warned the Police,lets hope that this is not repeated, with the Yewtree ongoing inquiry, how far will Government let it progress....Vote UKIP get this Country back to our rule....
Welshman, you let yourself down as I was hoping for a credible economic argument for UKIP and instead you revealed your true colours and brought up what you really want to vote UKIP for. Racial Xenophobia.

Yes Rotheram is horrific and it's related to a particular ethnic perpetrators. Yet that is just another disgusting abuse case in a whole plethora of cases that relate to child abuse. You choose to make issue of the ones where race is involved, go shouting to vote UKIP and quote BNP. That's where you loose credibility.

Child abuse goes across race and class. Most recently Jimmy Saville a white and popular male is the celebrity hot story, Rolf Harris, Gary Glitter. All white and apart from Rolf - British born.

Then there's the Lib Dem peer Cyril Smith, white and British. There's also the Jersey children's home scandal which was staffed by white people. There's also a number of Catholic church scandals by white priests. The Magdalene Laundries another example. I'm sure there is many more examples and I can't quite remember them all.

Why your posts get wiped and taken down is because you seek to dupe people into believing the abuse is mainly from an Islamic background for your won political and racially motivated gain. I'm sure UKIP will welcome you as a supporter.
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: All this was put under the carpet on your Labour watch and continued under this useless lot of non leaders ConDem... I remember when I posted some of this Muslim Grooming Gang information and accusations a year or so ago and got hammered by the PC leftist posters on here, who liked to call me a Racist Bigoted Islamophobe, well you were not on your own the Daily Mail stopped me posting about the Pakistani Sexual Grooming Gangs too, but in the end Nick Griffin was found to be correct in his accusations against these evil sexual perpetrators, all though not all Pakistani men but very near all were of that origin and also Muslim's.. I pasted this from the British National Parties Web Site: Quote: An independent enquiry has revealed the shocking extent of the abuse of more than 1,400 children in Rotherham alone, mostly by men of ‘Pakistani heritage’. The enquiry forced on the authorities by a three-year Protect Children campaign run by the BNP has revealed... exactly what the BNP was warning people about all these years! Research by BNP super-activist for Rotherham, Marlene Guest, provided the independent team with a wealth of material proving mass-scale abuse of children in the area. The BNP has been warning of the threat to children by organised groups from the Muslim community across the country who have been preying on, raping and systematically abusing children form other communities. Despite the BNP being proved time and time again to be right, the authorities have consistently done all they can to silence and persecute BNP spokesmen and women. In 2003, the authorities, with help from the BBC, even tried to jail ex-BNP Chairman Nick Griffin for 7 years for warning people about it. un-quote.... We all like to point the finger, as others do when the general public are fed lies about the BNP, but this and other stories are now becoming to light and are not lies, we get fooled by Media who have another agenda for the owners to make sure the truth tellers are silenced,1400 young girls sexually abused since Nick Griffin warned the Police,lets hope that this is not repeated, with the Yewtree ongoing inquiry, how far will Government let it progress....Vote UKIP get this Country back to our rule....[/p][/quote]Welshman, you let yourself down as I was hoping for a credible economic argument for UKIP and instead you revealed your true colours and brought up what you really want to vote UKIP for. Racial Xenophobia. Yes Rotheram is horrific and it's related to a particular ethnic perpetrators. Yet that is just another disgusting abuse case in a whole plethora of cases that relate to child abuse. You choose to make issue of the ones where race is involved, go shouting to vote UKIP and quote BNP. That's where you loose credibility. Child abuse goes across race and class. Most recently Jimmy Saville a white and popular male is the celebrity hot story, Rolf Harris, Gary Glitter. All white and apart from Rolf - British born. Then there's the Lib Dem peer Cyril Smith, white and British. There's also the Jersey children's home scandal which was staffed by white people. There's also a number of Catholic church scandals by white priests. The Magdalene Laundries another example. I'm sure there is many more examples and I can't quite remember them all. Why your posts get wiped and taken down is because you seek to dupe people into believing the abuse is mainly from an Islamic background for your won political and racially motivated gain. I'm sure UKIP will welcome you as a supporter. allanrees1980
  • Score: 2

5:03pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

allanrees1980 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
All this was put under the carpet on your Labour watch and continued under this useless lot of non leaders ConDem...

I remember when I posted some of this Muslim Grooming Gang information and accusations a year or so ago and got hammered by the PC leftist posters on here, who liked to call me a Racist Bigoted Islamophobe, well you were not on your own the Daily Mail stopped me posting about the Pakistani Sexual Grooming Gangs too, but in the end Nick Griffin was found to be correct in his accusations against these evil sexual perpetrators, all though not all Pakistani men but very near all were of that origin and also Muslim's..

I pasted this from the British National Parties Web Site:
Quote:
An independent enquiry has revealed the shocking extent of the abuse of more than 1,400 children in Rotherham alone, mostly by men of
‘Pakistani heritage’.
The enquiry forced on the authorities by a three-year Protect Children campaign run by the BNP has revealed... exactly what the BNP was warning people about all these years!
Research by BNP super-activist for Rotherham, Marlene Guest, provided the independent team with a wealth of material proving mass-scale abuse of children in the area.
The BNP has been warning of the threat to children by organised groups from the Muslim community across the country who have been preying on, raping and systematically abusing children form other communities.
Despite the BNP being proved time and time again to be right, the authorities have consistently done all they can to silence and persecute BNP spokesmen and women.
In 2003, the authorities, with help from the BBC, even tried to jail ex-BNP Chairman Nick Griffin for 7 years for warning people about it. un-quote....

We all like to point the finger, as others do when the general public are fed lies about the BNP, but this and other stories are now becoming to light and are not lies, we get fooled by Media who have another agenda for the owners to make sure the truth tellers are silenced,1400 young girls sexually abused since Nick Griffin warned the Police,lets hope that this is not repeated, with the Yewtree ongoing inquiry, how far will Government let it progress....Vote UKIP get this Country back to our rule....
Welshman, you let yourself down as I was hoping for a credible economic argument for UKIP and instead you revealed your true colours and brought up what you really want to vote UKIP for. Racial Xenophobia.

Yes Rotheram is horrific and it's related to a particular ethnic perpetrators. Yet that is just another disgusting abuse case in a whole plethora of cases that relate to child abuse. You choose to make issue of the ones where race is involved, go shouting to vote UKIP and quote BNP. That's where you loose credibility.

Child abuse goes across race and class. Most recently Jimmy Saville a white and popular male is the celebrity hot story, Rolf Harris, Gary Glitter. All white and apart from Rolf - British born.

Then there's the Lib Dem peer Cyril Smith, white and British. There's also the Jersey children's home scandal which was staffed by white people. There's also a number of Catholic church scandals by white priests. The Magdalene Laundries another example. I'm sure there is many more examples and I can't quite remember them all.

Why your posts get wiped and taken down is because you seek to dupe people into believing the abuse is mainly from an Islamic background for your won political and racially motivated gain. I'm sure UKIP will welcome you as a supporter.
Preston. Cowley Road Oxford. No pattern?
[quote][p][bold]allanrees1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: All this was put under the carpet on your Labour watch and continued under this useless lot of non leaders ConDem... I remember when I posted some of this Muslim Grooming Gang information and accusations a year or so ago and got hammered by the PC leftist posters on here, who liked to call me a Racist Bigoted Islamophobe, well you were not on your own the Daily Mail stopped me posting about the Pakistani Sexual Grooming Gangs too, but in the end Nick Griffin was found to be correct in his accusations against these evil sexual perpetrators, all though not all Pakistani men but very near all were of that origin and also Muslim's.. I pasted this from the British National Parties Web Site: Quote: An independent enquiry has revealed the shocking extent of the abuse of more than 1,400 children in Rotherham alone, mostly by men of ‘Pakistani heritage’. The enquiry forced on the authorities by a three-year Protect Children campaign run by the BNP has revealed... exactly what the BNP was warning people about all these years! Research by BNP super-activist for Rotherham, Marlene Guest, provided the independent team with a wealth of material proving mass-scale abuse of children in the area. The BNP has been warning of the threat to children by organised groups from the Muslim community across the country who have been preying on, raping and systematically abusing children form other communities. Despite the BNP being proved time and time again to be right, the authorities have consistently done all they can to silence and persecute BNP spokesmen and women. In 2003, the authorities, with help from the BBC, even tried to jail ex-BNP Chairman Nick Griffin for 7 years for warning people about it. un-quote.... We all like to point the finger, as others do when the general public are fed lies about the BNP, but this and other stories are now becoming to light and are not lies, we get fooled by Media who have another agenda for the owners to make sure the truth tellers are silenced,1400 young girls sexually abused since Nick Griffin warned the Police,lets hope that this is not repeated, with the Yewtree ongoing inquiry, how far will Government let it progress....Vote UKIP get this Country back to our rule....[/p][/quote]Welshman, you let yourself down as I was hoping for a credible economic argument for UKIP and instead you revealed your true colours and brought up what you really want to vote UKIP for. Racial Xenophobia. Yes Rotheram is horrific and it's related to a particular ethnic perpetrators. Yet that is just another disgusting abuse case in a whole plethora of cases that relate to child abuse. You choose to make issue of the ones where race is involved, go shouting to vote UKIP and quote BNP. That's where you loose credibility. Child abuse goes across race and class. Most recently Jimmy Saville a white and popular male is the celebrity hot story, Rolf Harris, Gary Glitter. All white and apart from Rolf - British born. Then there's the Lib Dem peer Cyril Smith, white and British. There's also the Jersey children's home scandal which was staffed by white people. There's also a number of Catholic church scandals by white priests. The Magdalene Laundries another example. I'm sure there is many more examples and I can't quite remember them all. Why your posts get wiped and taken down is because you seek to dupe people into believing the abuse is mainly from an Islamic background for your won political and racially motivated gain. I'm sure UKIP will welcome you as a supporter.[/p][/quote]Preston. Cowley Road Oxford. No pattern? Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: 2

10:46pm Thu 28 Aug 14

pwlldu says...

This time next year Scotland ouldn't be worring about a Tory government after they gain independance.
This time next year Scotland ouldn't be worring about a Tory government after they gain independance. pwlldu
  • Score: -2

6:28pm Fri 29 Aug 14

welshmen says...

Sorry allenrees:

Didn't now you were pro Muslim Child Grooming Gangs, I posted and pasted the truth as to the news media of the Muslim Sexual Grooming Gangs and if the Police and Councils had listened then instead of acting like you then 1400 young girls would not be going through the pain they are now, where the truth comes from is of no concern of mine, yet you will doubt that, just because of the mention of the "BNP", how stupid you sound, also trying to off shoot the Muslim Grooming Gangs to what we already know, that white Christian, Catholic Religion's has crossed that line of paedophilia for many years, If I had my way I would hang all those found guilty, if you think what I have posted is not credible then your thicker than you sound, I will vote for any party that offers the best deal for the British people not the rest of the world and UKIP is that Party, as for the Muslim Grooming Gangs your trying to protect, go and join their brothers on their latest quest to rule your world, and yes not all Muslims are Terrorists but 99.5% of Terrorists are Muslim, perhaps your a Muslim yourself bleating about how your all miss judged and every body else is worse than you and actually you and your Muslims are the victims. Truth will beat lie's any day, you keep believing the lies and I'll keep posting the truth....for your information Religion is not a race it's a Religion....I don't care what colour they are, if their Guilty they should hang.....That's my opinion anyway....
Sorry allenrees: Didn't now you were pro Muslim Child Grooming Gangs, I posted and pasted the truth as to the news media of the Muslim Sexual Grooming Gangs and if the Police and Councils had listened then instead of acting like you then 1400 young girls would not be going through the pain they are now, where the truth comes from is of no concern of mine, yet you will doubt that, just because of the mention of the "BNP", how stupid you sound, also trying to off shoot the Muslim Grooming Gangs to what we already know, that white Christian, Catholic Religion's has crossed that line of paedophilia for many years, If I had my way I would hang all those found guilty, if you think what I have posted is not credible then your thicker than you sound, I will vote for any party that offers the best deal for the British people not the rest of the world and UKIP is that Party, as for the Muslim Grooming Gangs your trying to protect, go and join their brothers on their latest quest to rule your world, and yes not all Muslims are Terrorists but 99.5% of Terrorists are Muslim, perhaps your a Muslim yourself bleating about how your all miss judged and every body else is worse than you and actually you and your Muslims are the victims. Truth will beat lie's any day, you keep believing the lies and I'll keep posting the truth....for your information Religion is not a race it's a Religion....I don't care what colour they are, if their Guilty they should hang.....That's my opinion anyway.... welshmen
  • Score: 0

6:40pm Fri 29 Aug 14

welshmen says...

Another LABOUR PARTY MESS having to be cleared up by UKIP when in Government....

ELEPHANT IN THE CLASSROOM

New's reports about the rising primary school population in England fail to mention the 'elephant in the room', said MEP Paul Nuttall.

"It is accepted that primary schools have increasing numbers of pupils, which causes all manner of problems, but what is frequently not referred to is why we have such a boom in numbers.

"And the answer is unlimited immigration into this country. It hits some areas harder than others but there cannot be many primary schools in the country which have not been affected at all," said Mr Nuttall, UKIP Education spokesman.

"As well as the huge financial implications it results in large classes which are unfair on the pupils, particularly the vulnerable ones wherever they are from.

"The financial situation has not been helped one jot by the madness of Nick Clegg's demand for free school meals for young primary school children, a project already in disarray with shortage of funds.

"As well as the lack of money many schools also have shortage of space to make the scheme viable. Both the millions of pounds thrown at this and the space taken up would be better used on meeting the youngsters' educational needs.

"The 2011 British census recorded a 3.7 Million population increase in England and Wales over the previous decade, around two thirds of it brought about by immigration and high birth rates among migrant mothers.

"Even though figures from the Office for National Statistics showed that last year, just 698,512 babies were born, down from 729,674 the year before, our primary schools are still faced with a big problem and so in turn will the secondary schools.

"Labour have pointed out that the number of five to seven-year-old's in large classes of over 30 children has spiralled by 200% since 2010 - to nearly 100,000 infants. They omit to mention, however, that they flung open our borders and bear a heavy responsibility for the mess we are now in.

"We have to deal with the class room over-crowding we are faced with but we must also look to the future. This involves getting a firm grip on our border control and also freeing ourselves from the European Union so that we have complete control on who we allow in," said Mr Nuttall.
Another LABOUR PARTY MESS having to be cleared up by UKIP when in Government.... ELEPHANT IN THE CLASSROOM New's reports about the rising primary school population in England fail to mention the 'elephant in the room', said MEP Paul Nuttall. "It is accepted that primary schools have increasing numbers of pupils, which causes all manner of problems, but what is frequently not referred to is why we have such a boom in numbers. "And the answer is unlimited immigration into this country. It hits some areas harder than others but there cannot be many primary schools in the country which have not been affected at all," said Mr Nuttall, UKIP Education spokesman. "As well as the huge financial implications it results in large classes which are unfair on the pupils, particularly the vulnerable ones wherever they are from. "The financial situation has not been helped one jot by the madness of Nick Clegg's demand for free school meals for young primary school children, a project already in disarray with shortage of funds. "As well as the lack of money many schools also have shortage of space to make the scheme viable. Both the millions of pounds thrown at this and the space taken up would be better used on meeting the youngsters' educational needs. "The 2011 British census recorded a 3.7 Million population increase in England and Wales over the previous decade, around two thirds of it brought about by immigration and high birth rates among migrant mothers. "Even though figures from the Office for National Statistics showed that last year, just 698,512 babies were born, down from 729,674 the year before, our primary schools are still faced with a big problem and so in turn will the secondary schools. "Labour have pointed out that the number of five to seven-year-old's in large classes of over 30 children has spiralled by 200% since 2010 - to nearly 100,000 infants. They omit to mention, however, that they flung open our borders and bear a heavy responsibility for the mess we are now in. "We have to deal with the class room over-crowding we are faced with but we must also look to the future. This involves getting a firm grip on our border control and also freeing ourselves from the European Union so that we have complete control on who we allow in," said Mr Nuttall. welshmen
  • Score: 0

6:48pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

pwlldu wrote:
This time next year Scotland ouldn't be worring about a Tory government after they gain independance.
No they'll have far more interesting stuff to worry about, particularly if they're pensioners, like their savings disappearing. Still that's what Salmon Mousse promised-equality. Equality of misery. Boom! Boom! , Mousse.
Alan Rees. I thought you'd passed away in Hemel Hempstead lately, but I'm glad you're alive and doing Devil's Advocate bravely.
I forgot to mention Rochdale. I don't "do" links but if you'll look at what one of the mams of the gaoled Cowley Road perpetrators said about the underclass young white females who were victims I think you'll understand the dysfunctional mind-set of those people a little better and stop bleating about historic twaddle in this country arising after the abolition of corroboration for complaints of this nature by a feminist far left of centre legislature.
The dimbos in Rotherham, S. Yorks Police. extraordinarily highly-paid social services functionaries etc., did the "mustn't upset the West Pakistanis" stuff which is , of course, about as "racist" as it gets, believing the dysfunctional represent all. The ordinary people of West Pakistan origin were as outraged as Welshmen at what happened, I've no doubt.
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: This time next year Scotland ouldn't be worring about a Tory government after they gain independance.[/p][/quote]No they'll have far more interesting stuff to worry about, particularly if they're pensioners, like their savings disappearing. Still that's what Salmon Mousse promised-equality. Equality of misery. Boom! Boom! , Mousse. Alan Rees. I thought you'd passed away in Hemel Hempstead lately, but I'm glad you're alive and doing Devil's Advocate bravely. I forgot to mention Rochdale. I don't "do" links but if you'll look at what one of the mams of the gaoled Cowley Road perpetrators said about the underclass young white females who were victims I think you'll understand the dysfunctional mind-set of those people a little better and stop bleating about historic twaddle in this country arising after the abolition of corroboration for complaints of this nature by a feminist far left of centre legislature. The dimbos in Rotherham, S. Yorks Police. extraordinarily highly-paid social services functionaries etc., did the "mustn't upset the West Pakistanis" stuff which is , of course, about as "racist" as it gets, believing the dysfunctional represent all. The ordinary people of West Pakistan origin were as outraged as Welshmen at what happened, I've no doubt. Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: 0
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