Labour always break promises (From South Wales Argus)

So Gordon Brown was responsible for Leemans going bust in America was he? Yeah that would be it!

Peter Marsh-Jenks, Abergavenny. wrote:
So Gordon Brown was responsible for Leemans going bust in America was he? Yeah that would be it!

So Leemans left the note at the treasury saying "there's no money left"? Yeah, that's it isn't it?

And the Tories are doing such a wonderful job aren't they - riots on the streets, unemployment just under 3 million, continued recession and no growth in the economy - it's like the early 80's all over again

The Tories are doing a bad job because Labour government spent all the money on London Dome, illegal wars and give money away policies. How many jobs have been created with the European funding, not that many. Labour destroyed our manufacturing jobs as the Tories did to our coal and steel industry. Labour created a top heavy public sector and encouraged people to go on a higher form of benefit like disabillity all to reduce unemployment figures.

Later, after a heated debate, union members cheered enthusiastically after controversially agreeing to start plotting the logistics of a nationwide walkout in protest at spending cuts.
If it goes ahead, a general strike would wipe out vital services, with workers including teachers, prison guards, firemen, nurses, dinner ladies and paramedics likely to walk out.
Yesterday’s vote is a huge embarrassment for Labour as the motion was supported by its biggest donor, Unite. Latest figures show that between April and June, Unite handed over £840,725, equal to more than a quarter of all the money the party received.
Steve Turner, executive policy director of Unite, insisted it would be ‘a betrayal of our responsibilities’ if unions did not support the strike plan.
‘We are at our best fighting back, roaring like lions, not cowering in corners,’ he said.

Bob Crow, leader of the Rail, Maritime and Transport union, said: "It's all very well Ed Balls wading into the Government but what working people want to know is when the Labour front bench is going to stand side by side with us on the picket lines and out on the streets."
Mr Balls said he understood that unions wanted immediate action to change the course of the Government's economic policies, and to plan for jobs and growth.
But he added that no one wanted a return to the "hatred, division and confrontation" of the 1980s, with a repeat of large-scale strikes.
"I am sure the last thing the vast majority of trade union members want is to strike over the coming months. It is not what we want or what the public wants. Labour promised Wales they are the party to stand up to the Tory cuts, yet another broken promise.

Pwlldu - like your annual leave at work do you ? It was a Labour government that brought that in, as it did most things which have benefitted the common man (which the Tories are currently trying to destroy). I suggest you read up on some history

labour have done well for the residents of cardiff (where all the grant money was spent) but the rest of wales are a disgrace newport an absolute shocking example.

Hopefully camerom will cut public spending and thus council tax all the disabled crowd can always watch free view and buy their larger from lidl.

If you lot are cross section of society, I really do despair. Sun readers no doubt

chris227 wrote:
labour have done well for the residents of cardiff (where all the grant money was spent) but the rest of wales are a disgrace newport an absolute shocking example.

Hopefully camerom will cut public spending and thus council tax all the disabled crowd can always watch free view and buy their larger from lidl.

What`s "larger" ?

If you feel that parts of Wales are getting a far better deal than others, take the matter up with your AM. If your not satisfied with the reply it might be incentive enough to make you join the Labour party and do something concrete about it instead of just moan.

Of course Tories, and lib-dems NEVER break promises (That is because no-one with an ounce of common-sense would believe them anyway). Look, NO politician that ever lived was honest.

It is about time the labour councillors realised that the general public do not want morrisons on blackwood gate retail park.
Either we want matalan, next, etc or the first option would be a cinema and a bowling alley for the young, old and disabled to enjoy after all there are no leisure facilities in the area. at all.
Why should Bargoed get it all?
A cinema and a bowling alley in blackwood would serve abercarn, cwmcarn, newbridge, pontllanfraith, cefn forest, croespenmaen, oakdale, crumlin, etc.
When is caerphilly cbc going to address the town centre in blackwood and the empty shops there even ty hafan charity shop could not affort to stay open in the town?

We still blame Maggie ,but she only got in because of the mess labour made in the 70s.Thats why we are in a mess again because of labour.

and sadly Labour has dragged this country backwards 30+ years since it took power in 1999.

I love that the increasingly discredited labour supporters have no argument other than to be rude to those pointing out the truth - and accusing them of being Sun readers. Fact is, Labour claimed they had abolished boom and bust and went on a spending spree to rival Elton John in a flower shop. All spent on worthy causes no doubt, but totally unsustainable and unaffordable. Then the balloon burst and it was all the fault of the banks, other countries and no blame at all on Labour and their irresponsible fiscal policy. Make no mistake, the extreme level of todays pain (and I hold no candle for the Tories) is down to Labour's insane mismanagement of our economy and the propogation of the culture in society that the state owes you a living; a foreign holiday each year and Sky subscription (including movie channels) - whether you have a job or not. What a bunch of self serving skambugs.

Doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always get in!

This makes my blood boil:

http://www.campaigns
eries.co.uk/news/992
4839.Bargoed_multipl
ex_could_soon_be_rea
lity/

What about Blackwood and the surrounding areas?

time to educate those who believe the Tory lie about economy. Time tGeorge Osborne admits the UK never had the biggest debt -‬ Must Read & Watch! - Betrayal & Treachery in our Time!
This is a must read and watch for all those who put their families before the their political believes and allegiances. This is a None partisan article because it is too much of a important subject matter which effects the financial future of all our families and our country.‪
There are two things to note to unlock the understanding and truth about UK’s debt and the deficit. Firstly, the UK is the 6th largest economy in the world. Hence, it follows that we would have a larger deficit & debt than all other country below us- i.e. a millionaire who has a greater income than you and I would also have a larger debts than you and I.
Secondly, George Osborne after admitting he didn’t know the UK had the 2nd lowest debt in the G8, says unashamedly with a smile: "Well, in cash terms the UK had the biggest debt".
Now, no economist in the world measures key economics indicators (such as debt, deficit or inflation etc) in cash terms because, it gives a false measure and picture. Percentages or ratios are used to get a true accurate picture- its basic maths. For example you would get a false and inaccurate measure if you compared in cash terms: a millionaires debt against a person who earns say £19k per annum - Greece. Hence, to get an accurte picture you need to find out what the debt and deficit is or was as a percent of income- GDP. The only reason for an educated person (like George Osborne, Coalition MPs and Ministers) to use "cash terms" as measure is: to deliberately mislead and deceive. Unless, we are to believe he is mathematically challenged in basic GCSE maths skills- in which case he shouldn't be looking after the nations purse.
As you'll discover he claims he doesn't know who had the lowest debt in the G8. Well, of cause he knew but, he dare not admit it because, it would mean he and the coalition were and are knowingly and deliberately misleading and misinforming the people of this country. Above all, they are using the propaganda strategy that if you say a lie enough times eventually people will believe it. They have fooled people by purely using word, soundbites and narratives without stating stats, facts or figures.Well, you can work out why. Below are 7 facts ( which completly exposes their fabrication of the actual facts) in the form of tweets which you my use if you wish. However, let me briefly explain what they add up to.
Firstly the last goverment are accused of creating the biggeset debt and deficit in the world. That arguement fall down once you see the banned George Osborne video above. Also, you'l find that the OECD data shows the UK had the 2nd Lowest debt in the world.
The Coalitions next arguement is the last government overspent and as result they created the biggest deficit and debt. The IMF data and analysis of EU spending by country show their was no overspending by the last UK government. The data shows the usual fall in output/income from the start of the recession 2008.
Hence, the usual rise in deficit and debt which occures with every down turn. Its basic economic fact that every down turn decreases income and as result increases the debt and deficit of a country. The bigger the down turn, the bigger will be the increase in debt and deficit. This is backed up by economic history (data) that there has never been a down turn where the debt or deficit has remained still or has fallen during a recession. Cameron and the Tories are not only trying to rewrite history in this case but also basic economic principals too.
The above argument falls down on examination of the number because, you can not reduce the debt by 7% ( which is over 3 times more than the Conservtives did during their previous 18 years in office) and be acussed profligacy.If we look at the deficit we find the Conservatives did not leave a balanced budget as they claim. The HM Treasury data shows they left a deficit of 3.9% in 1997 and it was then reduced by the Labour government down to 2.1% in 2008. There again you can not reduce the deficit by nearly 50% and be accused of overspending. After 2008 output/income fell dramatically due to the global banking crises and as a result the deficit and debt increased- theual ocurrence with eery dow turn. The UK along with the US were hit the most because, we have the biggest financial centers in the world.
So what we find is: the Conservative narratives and soundbites (words only) simply fail to stand up to the fact, stats and number on every account and in fact they are so wide off the mark that its a blantent case of talkng the economy down- painting a much worse picture than it factully was and is the case.
Finally, if we look at the debt and deficit during the last time the Conservatives were in office for 18 yrs (1979- 1997) they only managed to reduce the debt by 2%. Where as, the Labour goverment reduced it by over 3 times as much by 7% in a much shorter time period too. Hence, the Consevative debt ratio ( debt as a pecentage of income) was much higher. As for the deficit in 18 yrs they reduced it by 0.4%. That is 4.3% in 1979 to 3.9% in 1997. Where as the Labour reduced it by 1.8%- that is a reduction of 450% in less time.
Overall, the Conservative debt and deficit ratio ( debt and deficit as a pecentage of income) was much higher than labours year in office and they made very little proggress in reducing the debt and deficit during their 18 years. Now, here's the thing and there is no getting around it: during those 18 yrs no one was shouting 24/7 a 1000 time aday: " Help help the sky is falling down!!". Did they?
Below are 7 facts ( which completly exposes Tory fabrication of the actual facts) in the form of tweets which, you my use if you wish.
Finally IMF Confirms UK Never Had the Biggest Deficit & the Last Govt Didn’t Over Spend http://bit.ly/xAiIR6 RT
FACT: OECD Survey 2008: UK Debt, as a Percentage of GDP, was 2nd Lowest In G8 Economies http://bit.ly/Ha3Ayg RT
FACT: Exposed! Osborne admits the UK never had the biggest budget deficit or debt. Watch http://bit.ly/wbWOcM RT
Fact: 1997 #Tories left a deficit of 3.9% & no global crises 2007 deficit was 2.1% & exacerbated by a global bank crises http://bit.ly/Gzs86M RT HM Treasury
FACT: 1997 debt=42% of GDP. By 2007 debt was reduced by 7% to 35% there after exacerbated by global banking crises http://bit.ly/GY6zYy

FACT:1979 National Debt 44% of GDP & then 1997 Debt was 42% of GDP. It took the Tories 18 yrs to cut debt by "ONLY" 2% -What!? http://bit.ly/lFKX91

Fact:UK Debt Ratio was Higher During Tory Yrs Than Labours
http://bit.ly/HaLZVM Yet no at that time cried the sky is falling down RT
If we were to give the Chancellor the benefit of the doubt and assume he really didn't know, then are we to assume he took an educated guess on the primary data on which the Conservatives based their main premise of their austerity policy?- less we end up like Greece.
Now, whether George Osborne took a guess or he knew, it still means he and the Conservative are knowingly deceiving people by telling them the UK had the biggest debt and deficit in the world. Moreover, the fact they have been doing it 24/7 since 2008 can only mean one thing: they have pursued a agenda of talking down the economy to deliberately undermine and destroy consumer and business confidence (to deepen the recession and prologue it) to justify their policy of cuts.
We have been told that the sky is falling down which, has created a climate of fear , uncertainty and an expectectency of a severe recession, possible wage cuts and higher unemployment. Hence, consumers an business have adjusted their spending and investments accordingly. This has created a self fulfilling prophecy into what Keynes calls a "Paradox of Thrift"- where by we are all unsure and uncertain about the future and we all expected a severe down turn in the economy. Hence, as a result we all reduce our spending at the same time- resulting in a deep slump in the GDP. Now, I'm not the only economist which has warned and predicted this in early 2010- its basic economics that talking down the economy would eventually lead to a double dip recession which, will then lead to depression and then a lost decade or even may be two- if these myth makers carry on with the same narrative to achieve their dream of a much smaller privatised state sector and near zero taxes.Read and use the following tweet if you wish:
1) Poor Mouthing Britain - Talking down the economy:
http://nyti.ms/NoTxH
I By Krugman RT
2) The Austerity Agenda- Ulterior Motives Of The Conservatives: http://nyti.ms/M3uB8
M by Krugman RT
3) Professor Blanchflower How talking down economy has effected UK growth http://bbc.in/KYGdwk RT
4) The Conservatives inherited a growing economy in 2010, they've talked it down & now its sinking! http://bit.ly/HGyWc2 Blanchflower RT
5) The Conservatives are talking us into a recession http://bit.ly/HqFr9E Blanchflower RT
We elect our government on bases of who will best look after our economic and social interests- the public interest. Talking down the economy (falsely) 24/7 does not show any regard for the economic welfare of the people and if anything it only goes to highlight that the Conservatives are more interested in pursuing their party ideology for the benefit of themselves and their friends. Why else would anyone sell the same message this aggressively on every given media opportunity and over such a long period of time, other than to do harm to the economy. It certainly isn't an act of loyalty and patriotism to ones country and its people- that we all expects from our politicians and leaders.
Now, consider and imagine for a moment that it was the French and German goverments that were talking down our economy 24/7 1000 x a day via our media saying we had the biggest debt and deficit in the world and that we were going to end up like greece (for getting whether it is possible or how and why) and our politician did not challenge them.
First, people would start to think its true because our goverment would stay quite and never challenge them. Which would lead to destroying business and consumer confidence and lead to 3 millon unemployed. Secondly, soon or later the UK and other world economists and people would say that the Germans and the French were guilty of carrying out an act of economic warfare which has caused a double dip and 3million jobless- as described above via the Paradox of Thrift. Now, ask yourself what would we say if our politicians were the ones who carryed such an act and as a result bought about the double dip? Those who are honest would say:
"Such a strategy because, of its longevity and huge economic harm is quite simply: an act of economic warfare against state and historically it is the biggest act of treachery perpetrated against the people of this country. Historians, will no doubt conclude The Conservatives and The Liberal Democrats actions as deliberate with the aim of justifying and gaining public acceptance of their their political and ideological policies. Hence, as result of talking down the economy falsely over the last four years it would make them the biggest traitors this country has ever known”
I certainly can not remember a time history where the government has a talked down the economy so aggressively and for such a long time period. However, I think Nick Clegg states it more eloquently when he says:
"Cameron is oozing breathtaking arrogance.....active
ly stoking up fears in the markets, actively destabilising the pound which reduces the governments ability to borrow. He is saying vote for us or our friends in the City will lay waste to your economy, your wages, your jobs"- Clegg on Cameron during the 2010 election.
Finally, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to work out the Conservatives will play the same game again: their usual fear, uncertainty and blackmail card (a vote for the opposition will be a vote a for another financial mess and the markets will increase our borrowing costs and the sky will fall down) to win the 2015 election. We only have to look at the warning and observation made by Aneurin Bevan- that is:
“The Tories, every election, must have a bogy man. If you haven't got a programme, a bogy man will do.” Aneurin Bevan
Expose the truth (SHOUT OUT ABOUT IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA) to stop them using the same strategy in 2015 by clicking the Share button on the bottom left hand corner to RT it on Twitter , share it on Facebook and texting the link to your friends on mobile.o wake ,

Mr Nutt is a Plaid member. The Bargoed project has cost over £90 million, we could have all sorts of wonderful things at Blackwood Gate, thing is they need to change the planning consent and Plaid voted against the change of use. If consent is refused again the developers will walk away, without a change of use nothing can go to Blackwood Gate other than bulky goods and they don’t want to go there Morrison’s have shown an interest and if they go there others will follow.

Thanks to Labour Wales have the poorest children and OAP's in the Western Europe, The NHS and school exam pass rates are the worst in the UK. You rose tinted Labour supporter should read some facts/reports. Wales have been left at the mercy of the Tory cuts. Going back to Bargoed, I would like to thank the Rhymney valley Labour councillors like Tudor Davies and the leader of the council Harry Andrews for supporting the development in Bargoed, without their support and votes this wouldn't have been pushed through. It was also the help of Labour councillors that stopped the needless developement of Blackwood gate.

Cllr Dix sided with the Tories during the first referendum and then side with the far right members during the last referendum. Now he is siding with the developers over Blackwood high st (small shop keepers),Cllr Dix seem to have a blue streak in him. Blackwood already has Asda, Iceland, Farm Foods. So why not be happy that Bargoed is having one food store.

Labour spent money on building the public sector (jobs for the boys) at a loss of manufacturing jobs. Now we have a public sector draining the public purse and not enough companies producing items to sell. This need to be reversed if Wales is to grow.

Nig
Labour is the majority in the caerphilly council now so they can give us a cinema and a bowling alley in blackwood. Then sort out the hight street.
It is high time that the general public are listened to instead of being ignored.
Politicians need to remember that the they are elected by the public and the public do not want a dictatorship in the council.
Enough is enough!

ginger tom are u for real? its not down to the council to find teants for Blackwood its up to the owners, but they are stuck until planning consent is changed,over 5 thousand people signed a petition for a supermarket at Balckwood and Plaid were wiped out over the issue, the dictatoship is you head, the people have spoken over 3 thousand votes for labour in mays elections and the petition, Gigner you talk for youself not the people

ginger tom are u for real? its not down to the council to find teants for Blackwood its up to the owners, but they are stuck until planning consent is changed,over 5 thousand people signed a petition for a supermarket at Balckwood and Plaid were wiped out over the issue, the dictatoship is you head, the people have spoken over 3 thousand votes for labour in mays elections and the petition, Gigner you talk for youself not the people

Cllr Dix voted for the assembly , but opposed more powers. as for the right wing nonsence , read below and see real right wingers and how dangerous the Plaid Are.

Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood has come under attack from political opponents after it emerged that last year she uttered a bizarre oath of allegiance to Welsh republicanism at a meeting in a Cardiff Bay wine bar.
The meeting was also addressed by members of a radical Welsh nationalist group who expressed extreme anti-English views.
The group – Balchder Cymru (Pride of Wales) – regards two young men who blew themselves up on the eve of the Prince of Wales’ investiture in 1969 as martyrs.
Last night Plaid Cymru issued a statement dissociating the party from the “abhorrent” views of Balchder Cymru, saying Ms Wood and saying fellow Plaid AM Bethan Jenkins had attended the meeting “in good faith”.
The event took place in Mischiefs wine bar in June last year, on the same day the Queen opened the new session of the National Assembly.
Ms Wood and Ms Jenkins boycotted the event because they are republicans.
A video of the meeting was uploaded to YouTube only last week. It shows Ms Jenkins and then Ms Wood attesting an oath to Welsh republicanism, Ms Jenkins in Welsh and Ms Wood in English.

Ms Wood appears on the video saying, as she stands adjacent to a red, white and green Welsh republican flag: “We attest this flag is a symbol of Republican Wales. We will fight for the truth against the world. All nations are born of one people. All laws are born of one justice. All freedoms are born of one peace.”
She then says: “Is there peace?”, to which those present respond: “Peace”.
A member of Balchder Cymru is later seen on the 25 minute video engaging in a verbally aggressive anti-English rant during which he refers to Welsh “traitors”.
At one point he says: “There are members of the Free Wales Army in here, the workers army of the Welsh republic and other members in here that I can see but I can’t tell you who they are that have served time.
“Do you think we are arseing about down here? No.”
Members of the fringe and tiny paramilitary organisation the Free Wales Army were jailed for their activities in the 1960s.
Welsh Labour AM Ken Skates said: “I’m not a royalist, but it is frankly bizarre to see Leanne Wood swearing an oath of allegiance to this group and taking part in such a strange ceremony. Most worryingly of all it highlights a serious lack of political judgement on her part to share a stage with individuals who hold such extreme political views.
“Leanne Wood needs to decide whether she wants to spend her time in backstreet pubs pretending to be a radical political freedom fighter or take up the role she was elected to perform as the leader of a mainstream Welsh political party.
“Plaid Cymru and its leadership are at a crossroads: either they are a serious party focused on solving the big challenges we have to face in Wales or they are content to play gesture politics with radical fringe groups.”
A senior Welsh Conservative source said: “If a senior politician allows themselves to be in a small room with guest speakers who boast about violent and criminal separatist pasts, their judgement must be called into question.
“That this event was so small reinforces just how few people hold such views.
“Whatever her own thoughts on extremism, it’s clear from this video that independence and separatism are the main aims of Plaid’s leader, and always have been.”
Last night, after the Western Mail contacted Plaid Cymru but before this story was published, the video was taken down from the public section of YouTube.
A Plaid Cymru spokeswoman said: “Leanne and Bethan attended this event in good faith. Unfortunately a handful of individuals appear to have used the event to express views which we find abhorrent and from which we distance ourselves completely.”
Plaid also pointed out that its director of elections Ian Titherington had attended the same event, writing on his blog at the time: “There were poets, pints, politicians and pontificators and it was an interesting general debate on the differing versions of Republicanism that people had.
“I found some of the poetry particularly entertaining and was pleased to see several friends from Plaid and other parties there, but was a little depressed by a handful of individuals who took it upon themselves to use the event for an anti-English rant that sounded straight out of the 1960s. Surely we have moved on from blaming England for all our woes, especially now that we have a Parliament that we have responsibility for.”