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Froch has no chance – Calzaghe
12:30pm Tuesday 28th April 2009
JOE Calzaghe will resist what could be the biggest payday of his life and will not come out of retirement to fight Carl Froch, the Argus can reveal.
Froch, 31, nicknamed the Cobra, came back from the brink of defeat in America on Saturday night to hang on to his WBC super middleweight title, stopping Jermain Taylor with just 14 seconds of the final round remaining with natural middleweight Taylor well ahead on the judges’ scorecards.
However, within seconds of his win Froch was calling Calzaghe out of retirement, insisting he would “smash Calzaghe, if he gets his backside out of his armchair”.
Argus columnist Calzaghe has generally kept a silence on his views of Froch, currently Britain’s only world champion fighter, writing in his column a fortnight ago that he’d like to see Froch step into his shoes and dominate the super middleweight division.
However, it would appear Calzaghe has finally had enough of Froch’s taunts.
He explained: “Enough is enough with Carl Froch calling me out, I will tell you categorically that I would not fight the guy even if I did come out of retirement, which I am not going to do.
“I am sick to death of him drumming up free publicity for himself by using my name, no one who watched the fight with Taylor can believe he is in my class, he’s my stalker, nothing more.
“For the first eight rounds against Taylor he was like a goalkeeper with no defence, he was being outclassed and outfought by a middleweight who has seen better days.
“To be honest it would be frightening what I could do to him if we fought, he doesn’t seem to realise that holding your hands up and defending yourself is a pretty vital part of boxing.
“I have seen absolutely nothing whatsoever from him that makes me think I should fight him, I couldn’t motivate myself knowing how easily I could beat him and possibly hurt him badly.
“Frank Warren offered him a fight with me sometime ago and he wasn’t keen, he knows he’s got limited options for the future because guys like Mikkel Kessler would destroy him.
“The truth is that whoever I fought if I came out of retirement, I would make big money. But I don’t want to do that, I am very happy being retired and I am sick and tired of having to address a guy who has done nothing to deserve the attention he gets off of my name.
“I wouldn’t fight him even if I did come back, what would be the point?”
Calzaghe’s father and former trainer Enzo echoed the views of his son.
“He (Froch) is such an amateur it is unbelievable he was like a novice fighter in there against Taylor, a middleweight,” he said.
“He was caught with jabs all the time, he doesn’t move his head, he holds his hands way too low and his style is pretty pathetic for someone in the position he is in.
“He is a bad fighter being made to look good by a lack of competition. I can understand that he needs a big payday and Joe would give him that.
“If he was a good fighter he’d have some big days ahead against the best out there, like Mikkel Kessler, but he must know when he meets one of them it is over for him as a champion.
“Joe is happy in retirement and has nothing left to prove to anyone, he showed respect when we watched the Froch fight but I was laughing.
“He (Froch) would be better off fighting Nathan Cleverly, that would be a cracking fight and Nathan would possibly have too much class for him.
“Froch can’t protect himself and Nathan could exploit that, Froch says he’s a legend but the only legend from Nottingham is Brian Clough.”
* The Calzaghe Promotions show, Second Coming, at Merthyr’s Rhydycar Leisure Centre, has been postponed until Sunday, May 24, as Kerry Hope is unwell.
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Your Say YourGwent
Keith Barnett, Newport says...
2:04pm Tue 28 Apr 09
rugbyman, newport says...
2:45pm Tue 28 Apr 09
zorro, Newport says...
4:00pm Tue 28 Apr 09
OutintheWetlands, Newport says...
4:09pm Tue 28 Apr 09
If I were in Bute's camp I'd see Froch's calling out of JC a big insult and a great motivator. Froch shows no respect to people and I'm hoping someone like Kessler will wipe the smug grin off his face bigtime! Although, I'm not sure he'll get past Bute to be honest.
Froch clearly needs a rest before his next fight, he looked like an old man.
Monte_Fisto, Newport says...
4:35pm Tue 28 Apr 09
on need to either wise up or get in the ring themselves and find out what they're talking about.
Boxers do this to sell tickets, the game needs fighters like Froch and Haye. Calzaghe did exactly the same to Steve Collins back in the day.
Monte_Fisto, Newport says...
4:37pm Tue 28 Apr 09
wildwolfman1, newport says...
4:39pm Tue 28 Apr 09
if it would stop him bad mouthing you,
put a stop to him,
make this your last fight, and no one can say bad about you,
lay him out, in the 1st round, that will finally shut him up,
davewales, newport says...
8:53pm Tue 28 Apr 09
Monte_Fisto wrote:you chat rubbish,firstly joe was born in hammersmith london england and his family moved too wales.secondly collins wouldnt fight joe he retired,thats why he fought chris uebank and got the belt.doh.being welsh i am proud joe sees himself as a welshman and calls himself the italian dragon.the truth is joe didnt need to shout insults to get fights he has a following that not many fighters can get,joe can fill stadiums and tv companies want to show him as he gets high viewing figures.at this moment in time carl froch would have to have someone like amir khan top of the bill to fill an arena,his name doesnt sell jack.promoters make fights,fighters fight who is put infront of them.this isnt anything about nationalism i see joe and carl froch as british fighters.if you think carl froch could take the constant barage of punches from joe and fighting with his hands down you are mad.joe wished froch would dominate his division like he did,there is no need for froch too mouth off.every person in the boxing blog chat rooms is disgusted by froch's insults ,they all say how lucky he was too win this fight and his last.froch has not shown himself as nothing more than a one dimensional fighter,a bar room brawler with a chin,found in every town.joe against froch is like a formula 1 racing car against a family saloon car.you obviously are a frustrated armchair world champion know it all,who couldnt lace up joes boots.
People on here are getting blinded by the fact that Froch is English and Calzaghe is Welsh. The hypocrisy on here is unbelievable. The truth is, Calzaghe would do exactly the same to Froch as he did to Lacy, I have no doubt, but he will at the same time never be able to say he took on a marquee name in his own back yard and beat him fair and square in his own back yard. Those making stupid comments about Taylor and/or Froch's ability/age/motivati on need to either wise up or get in the ring themselves and find out what they're talking about. Boxers do this to sell tickets, the game needs fighters like Froch and Haye. Calzaghe did exactly the same to Steve Collins back in the day.
Monte_Fisto, Newport says...
1:18pm Wed 29 Apr 09
davewales, newport says...
3:37pm Wed 29 Apr 09
have you personally been punched by joe too say he doesnt have power?
you agree with all my points and know joe would destroy froch.carl froch you said it, a one dimensional fighter.he needs a stamina coach,he was blowing yet he says he could do 15 rounds,rubbish.he wont listen to his corner robert,he holds his hands down and holds his chin out,which is suicide.taylor suffers with asthma if he didnt i am sure he would have danced away from froch and would have taken a win,he was exausted not floored by power.he dominated froch at will.carl froch was swinging punches,haymakers.th
ere was no acuracy and where was his jab.he's looking for a pay day,he has upset alot of british fight fans with his bad comments and it was a cheap shot.doesnt he fancy kessler or kelly pavlik.i am fed up of these armchair pundits who dont understand how good a fighter must be too hold a world title 10 years and dominate his division.i know the next slur coming, so who did he dodge?no one you just cant appreciate a british boxer could be that good,he's a hall of fame boxer lets see how long froch lasts.
at 31 i wouldnt say froch was over the hill but time aint on his side,i would like too see him dominate his division as a british fighter but he has shown his limitations showing too many holes that a fast accurate puncher would pick apart at this time.i bet kessler and pavlik would love carl froch,he is ripe for a knockout.
The Maxter, Chippenham says...
8:57pm Wed 29 Apr 09
Anyway, thought Froch froze but sheer balls bailed him out, glad for him, as he took one hell of a risk with a first defence, hope he learns from it.
Monte_Fisto, Newport says...
9:25pm Wed 29 Apr 09
davewales wrote:Yeah, oranges you cheeky tool. Look, put aside your deep-seated romantic attraction for 'Joe' and put your brain into gear for a minute.
box what oranges. have you personally been punched by joe too say he doesnt have power? you agree with all my points and know joe would destroy froch.carl froch you said it, a one dimensional fighter.he needs a stamina coach,he was blowing yet he says he could do 15 rounds,rubbish.he wont listen to his corner robert,he holds his hands down and holds his chin out,which is suicide.taylor suffers with asthma if he didnt i am sure he would have danced away from froch and would have taken a win,he was exausted not floored by power.he dominated froch at will.carl froch was swinging punches,haymakers.th ere was no acuracy and where was his jab.he's looking for a pay day,he has upset alot of british fight fans with his bad comments and it was a cheap shot.doesnt he fancy kessler or kelly pavlik.i am fed up of these armchair pundits who dont understand how good a fighter must be too hold a world title 10 years and dominate his division.i know the next slur coming, so who did he dodge?no one you just cant appreciate a british boxer could be that good,he's a hall of fame boxer lets see how long froch lasts. at 31 i wouldnt say froch was over the hill but time aint on his side,i would like too see him dominate his division as a british fighter but he has shown his limitations showing too many holes that a fast accurate puncher would pick apart at this time.i bet kessler and pavlik would love carl froch,he is ripe for a knockout.
Were you personally in the ring with Froch on Saturday to know he was knackered? He looked ok to me when he lathered Taylor out of there, so don't make peurile excuses you sound like his mum. Calzaghe is known to have brittle hands, and has clearly lost his dig over the years, he hit Lacy clean over 1000 times and didn't drop him! He has clearly protected his career at the expense of power shots.
Where did I say Froch had good boxing skills? He has already said he is going for Bute next then Kessler, so what your point is there I do not know. I am no armchair pundit, when you have got between the ropes then you can open your mouth about your frustrations, whoch at the moment seem largely centred around the fact Joe Calzaghe won't go to bed with you.
Ripe for a knock out my backside, Hopkins beat Pavlik and Taylor beat Hopkins so what the folk your point is I do not know. Fact is he insulted your toy boy who categorically was an excellent champion with a snake for a promoter - we will never know how good Calzaghe was because Warren, like he does with all his fighters, steers them well clear of anyone who can bang at the weight. Tucker Podwill? Manfredo? Sekio Bika? Come on, even the most ardent fan of Joe Calzaghe has to see why people dispute his record is that of a legend.
Grow up and give a fighter his dues, or grow a pair and give it a go yourself and learn some humility.
boxingbertie2, Middlesbrough says...
7:27am Thu 30 Apr 09
That's like saying Joe's from Las Vegas as he sometimes worked there.
Other than that minor inaccuracy, which may have offended the entire population of Teesside, good article.
davewales, newport says...
2:32pm Thu 30 Apr 09
this is total tripe
Monte_Fisto, Newport says...
6:42pm Thu 30 Apr 09
You don't know zip about me, apart from the fact I can spell and write a lot more coherently than you can, so save your keyboard personal gibes, tough guy.
I love boxing too and am as entitled to my opinion, which you will find is shared by many many people too, and you can stick your one per cent in your word hole because one per cent or not it is still mine.
The point is a fighter went to the states to defend arguably a more creditable version of the title against a world class fighter, won despite being underdog and losing on two judges score cards, and you tear him to bits just because he called out a newly retired fighter who was rightly regarded as the best in the business. That is 'armchair' punditry at it's worst I'm afraid.
Nopw calm down and learn to read. I haven't questioned once who you think would win or suggested Calzaghe dodged anyone. I think he was mismanaged by Warren, as all Warren fighters are. It is only a 'fact' Froch ducked him by Frank Warren, the biggest snake in boxing's word and if you believe that you are as big a chump as you are making of yourself in this argument. How is that insulting him? Do you not think he should have been fighting the likes of Roy Jones/Hopkins years ago? Do you not think he was even in the best shape of his career over the last couple of years? These are fights imo that should have been made in the fighter's involved prime, and that tarnishes JC's legacy IN MY OPINION. As a boxing fan I find that hard to believe especially as Calzaghe has said so himself. I am not jealous of anything and give - wait for it CREDIT WHERE IT IS DUE, moron, and incidentally never even put on a pair of gloves as a kid, so have nothing to prove to you or anyone. You can like it or lump it, it's no ckin off my 4rse.
davewales, newport says...
8:58pm Thu 30 Apr 09
whats your name rick with a silent p.dont see anyone else agreeing or writing the tripe you write.theres a village somewhere missing its idiot.why dont you go to the library and brush up on your ignorance,i dont know what makes you really stupid but it works.you make me believe in reincarnation because nobody could be that stupid in one lifetime.
missdynamite, newport says...
9:57pm Thu 30 Apr 09
monty-fisto is a moron.joe calzaghe deserves more respect from the no mark.carl froch was lucky not to lose his belt last saturday and he was out of order with his dirty mouth.show some respect for a great champion.
Monte_Fisto, Newport says...
1:19pm Fri 1 May 09
-Y', look it up some time. What's your name, child, Dave with a silent bellend?
Froch is the champ and he can call out who he likes, until someone takes the belt from him that's his prerogative. What was he supposed to say, genius, on his first live American tv fight? 'I'm cr4p and Calzaghe would beat me?' Clear off back to Noddyland 'Dave' you make more contradictions than even there are in the original article. Bored now.
missdynamite, newport says...
5:23pm Fri 1 May 09
bordering psychotic.
grow up.
you seem to dislike joe with venom.
did he take your sweets off you as a kid or bully you in the playground.your ranting like a loony.
see a doctor and get some medicine for your disorder.
very sad individual.
Monte_Fisto, Newport says...
6:03pm Sat 2 May 09
jo_les66, newport city says...
6:03pm Sun 3 May 09
THE CAMELEON, newport says...
2:48am Wed 13 May 09
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davewales, newport says...
1:53pm Tue 28 Apr 09
deal with it carl froch,you couldnt beat calzaghe if he was still fighting ,the speed,power and constant barage of punches would just end in one outcome,you knocked out and making excuses for that knockout.i hope joe doesnt fight froch after his disrespectful rants,froch was offered a fight some years ago by frank warren and he ducked his chance then.joe has plenty of money and this is what hurts carl froch ,he knows he would lose but would get a great payout.he cant get million pound purses,who else is out there that could get him high earner purses ? even if he fought kessler he wouldnt earn much.kessler would knock him out ,of that i have no doubt.
carl froch has offered joe calzaghe a 50/50 share of the purse if he fights him,lol,he has some cheek. i can see joe saying put all the money on the table and winner take all,just to silence the big mouth once and for all.you may regret dreaming of a fight with joe,it will only end in a nightmare for you. show some respect ,your just looking like an obsessive ,jealous stalker.
we love you joe,you are a legend and history will write so.