We need to smarten up – Groves

REALISTIC: Jevon Groves

REALISTIC: Jevon Groves

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DRAGONS v BAYONNE (Saturday, KO 8.10)

JEVON Groves believes Newport Gwent Dragons need to smarten up if they are to keep their Euro-pean hopes alive against Bayonne on Saturday.

The Dragons failed to get off the mark in Pool Three of the Amlin Challenge Cup after a 38-25 defeat to Wasps that was more convincing than the scoreline suggests.

The Rodney Parade region need to earn at least four points against Bayonne this weekend if they are to stand a chance of making it into the last eight.

The Dragons’ most memorable victory of last season came against Perpignan but an improvement in discipline is required if they are to stand any chance of claiming another French scalp.

They headed into the break 25-15 down in High Wycombe only to shoot themselves in the foot at the resumption by conceding penalties and allowing Nicky Robinson to boot Wasps clear.

“I think that we lacked that rugby intelligence at times against Wasps,” said Groves, who played in the second row at Adams Park.

“We made far too many errors and then compounded them by giving away silly penalties.

“A side like Wasps will always punish those mistakes, and they did it severely.

“Bayonne will be no different and to get the win we will need to play with more discipline as well as with heart, commitment and attitude.”

Bayonne predictably got off to a flier against Italian whipping boys Mogliano, running in 11 tries in a 71-7 romp.

Their primary focus will be Top 14 survival this season – they sit 10th, four points above the drop zone – but they will still head to Rodney Parade with an imposing pack that is likely to be marshaled by Wales scrum-half Mike Phillips.

That will be of concern to Dragons fans who have frequently seen their pack outmuscled.

“French teams are always strong in the scrums and lineouts,” said Groves.

“But I think the lineout was a real plus against Wasps, who are excellent in that department. Sam Parry threw in very well and that gives us something to build on.

“We know there is still plenty of room for improvement in the scrum but I think it went a lot better (against Wasps than against the Scarlets the previous week). Hopefully that performance can be a bit of a stepping stone.”

That would go down well with centre/wing Adam Hughes, who scored a belting try at Adams Park, smashing through the attempted tackle of Scotland full-back Hugo Southwell.

“As backs we feel that we can do a lot of damage if we get good ball and I am sure the forwards will be fired up to provide us with more quality possession against Bayonne,” said the 22-year-old.

“It’s a massive game and our defeat against Wasps makes it even more important – we could really do with getting maximum points to drag ourselves back into it.

“Bayonne will be a quality team but we are at home and will have no excuses.”

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10:19am Wed 17 Oct 12

Robert Shillabeer says...

He's right, no excuses this time, must do better as the old school reports used to say, capable but not delivering. Otherwise the shouts will be loud and clear for change.
He's right, no excuses this time, must do better as the old school reports used to say, capable but not delivering. Otherwise the shouts will be loud and clear for change. Robert Shillabeer
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11:12am Wed 17 Oct 12

Euwan Usami says...

"Imposing pack" says it all really. Would love to be wrong but it doesn't bode well does it.
"Imposing pack" says it all really. Would love to be wrong but it doesn't bode well does it. Euwan Usami
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11:32am Wed 17 Oct 12

Robert Shillabeer says...

Ewan that's what annoys me most, the players are constantly mocked by the likes of yourself for trying to boost confidence before a game. Of course they must pay things up as to admit defeat even before the game starts your on to a loser straight way. Part of any game is the physiological build up, they must believe they have a chance or its no chance at all, anyway would you support a team that believes its onto a lser all the time?
Ewan that's what annoys me most, the players are constantly mocked by the likes of yourself for trying to boost confidence before a game. Of course they must pay things up as to admit defeat even before the game starts your on to a loser straight way. Part of any game is the physiological build up, they must believe they have a chance or its no chance at all, anyway would you support a team that believes its onto a lser all the time? Robert Shillabeer
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11:55am Wed 17 Oct 12

Euwan Usami says...

Under the circumstances my comments are quite fair I think. We know the problem for a long while now is in the pack. The report suggests Bayonne have an "Imposing pack". That, in my mind, does not bode well for us because we are a shambles up front. As I said first off, I would love to be proved wrong. If you think my comments will affect the outcome of the match your entitled to that view but I don't share it.
Under the circumstances my comments are quite fair I think. We know the problem for a long while now is in the pack. The report suggests Bayonne have an "Imposing pack". That, in my mind, does not bode well for us because we are a shambles up front. As I said first off, I would love to be proved wrong. If you think my comments will affect the outcome of the match your entitled to that view but I don't share it. Euwan Usami
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12:49pm Wed 17 Oct 12

Robert Shillabeer says...

Whatever anyone thinks it won't change the outcome but please don't write anything off before they happen. Team spirit is a fragile commodity anD to deride it before the fact is defeatist talk and achieves nothing. Everyone has a right to his own opinion but I prefer to look on the bright side of life as Monty Python would say.
Whatever anyone thinks it won't change the outcome but please don't write anything off before they happen. Team spirit is a fragile commodity anD to deride it before the fact is defeatist talk and achieves nothing. Everyone has a right to his own opinion but I prefer to look on the bright side of life as Monty Python would say. Robert Shillabeer
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1:07pm Wed 17 Oct 12

broadsworddan says...

Reading the two of you arguing like a pair of old women is fast becoming the highlight of my day. I have to admit, I barely read the articles anymore. I just scan down to the comments to catch the latest installment of gwent's newest comedy double act. Which one's Ryan and which one's Ronnie then?
Reading the two of you arguing like a pair of old women is fast becoming the highlight of my day. I have to admit, I barely read the articles anymore. I just scan down to the comments to catch the latest installment of gwent's newest comedy double act. Which one's Ryan and which one's Ronnie then? broadsworddan
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2:07pm Wed 17 Oct 12

Euwan Usami says...

To be honest I am on holiday at the moment so I've got too much time on my hands. Old Rob is always terrorising this site though. He doesn't mind you having an opinion as long as it doesn't differ from his own it seams.
I'm guessing retired school teacher, dunno why. Sure he will put me straight. Maybe there is milage in this double act though eh? ;)
To be honest I am on holiday at the moment so I've got too much time on my hands. Old Rob is always terrorising this site though. He doesn't mind you having an opinion as long as it doesn't differ from his own it seams. I'm guessing retired school teacher, dunno why. Sure he will put me straight. Maybe there is milage in this double act though eh? ;) Euwan Usami
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2:20pm Wed 17 Oct 12

Robert Shillabeer says...

Retired yes but not a teacher, half marks for the retired bit. Don't mean to terrorise anyone as they are generally above that. The double act idea sounds quite funny but Abbot and Castello sounds nearer the mark or even little and large (I'm the large one). The debates on this site are generally honest and do show a strong desire for the Dragons to do well but are often a bit to far anti management for sensible belief. Hope the banter continues a bit fairer on management who as I have said many times before always do thier best often with poor assets but don't complain and protect thier players more often than not at thier own cost. Keep posting and enjoy.
Retired yes but not a teacher, half marks for the retired bit. Don't mean to terrorise anyone as they are generally above that. The double act idea sounds quite funny but Abbot and Castello sounds nearer the mark or even little and large (I'm the large one). The debates on this site are generally honest and do show a strong desire for the Dragons to do well but are often a bit to far anti management for sensible belief. Hope the banter continues a bit fairer on management who as I have said many times before always do thier best often with poor assets but don't complain and protect thier players more often than not at thier own cost. Keep posting and enjoy. Robert Shillabeer
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2:44pm Wed 17 Oct 12

SWBorderer says...

No doubt there has been some tough talking, and probably some finger pointing. Everyone is probably fired up and training has gone well.

I have cleared a space behind the sofa so I can watch from there.
No doubt there has been some tough talking, and probably some finger pointing. Everyone is probably fired up and training has gone well. I have cleared a space behind the sofa so I can watch from there. SWBorderer
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2:56pm Wed 17 Oct 12

Robert Shillabeer says...

Bet they have watched videos of the opposition this week and trained as they have never trained before. Have you seen the new bit of training kit in the gym, saw something like it a horror movie once.
Bet they have watched videos of the opposition this week and trained as they have never trained before. Have you seen the new bit of training kit in the gym, saw something like it a horror movie once. Robert Shillabeer
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6:31pm Wed 17 Oct 12

CaptainB says...

Bayonne are a reasonably good team who we should beat at home, losing to them in a good rugby duel would not be the end of the world.

However, if we fail to turn up again or get mullered in the pack again, that is a diferent matter.

Best of luck to the boys, I think we are nearing the Last Chance Saloon.
Bayonne are a reasonably good team who we should beat at home, losing to them in a good rugby duel would not be the end of the world. However, if we fail to turn up again or get mullered in the pack again, that is a diferent matter. Best of luck to the boys, I think we are nearing the Last Chance Saloon. CaptainB
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6:41pm Wed 17 Oct 12

Keith Barnett says...

Bayonne by 15pts ish
Bayonne by 15pts ish Keith Barnett
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