Don't desert us – Edinburgh's fears over County attendances

South Wales Argus: CONCERNED: Justin Edinburgh CONCERNED: Justin Edinburgh

NEWPORT County boss Justin Edinburgh admits he is “worried” that the city is turning its back on the club.

The Exiles extended their advantage at the top of the Conference on Tuesday in scintillating fashion as they smashed Cambridge United 6-2.

However, only 1,787 fans were in attendance, the lowest league gate of the season, and that scenario seriously miffed Edinburgh.

“The players were immense from start to finish and we thoroughly deserved the result, we were right on it from start to finish and some of our goals and football were outstanding, but for me it’s a mixed bag on the night,” he told the Argus.

“The only thing that took the gloss off it for me was the attendance. People must not lose sight of our situation, we need good gates here and I can’t understand for the life of me how we’ve lost one league game at home and our gates have gone down so drastically.

“I give full credit to the fans who were there because they supported us brilliantly and were rewarded with probably our best performance of the season, but we need more, we’ve gone from over 3,000 to under 2,000 in the space of a few weeks.”

Edinburgh doesn’t believe a promotion push is realistic without a fervent fanbase.

“Everyone should be proud of what we are doing and I worry they (the public) aren’t embracing what we are doing and not enjoying it, some people are becoming too critical and too keen to point out what we are not doing,” he explained.

“I don’t want to harp on, I know financially it’s a tough time but it’s a cause for massive concern on my part.

“If we can’t get over 2000 when we are sitting top of the league it worries me.

“We can’t be relying on one man (millionaire chairman Les Scadding), we need the community to be behind the club and from my perspective it’s a big worry because I’m not sure they are.”

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7:28am Thu 8 Nov 12

james.dyer7@ntlworld.com says...

Some bad results meant people were not goingbtyo watch a loing side. That's all. If they keep improving, so will the fans.
Some bad results meant people were not goingbtyo watch a loing side. That's all. If they keep improving, so will the fans. james.dyer7@ntlworld.com
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8:04am Thu 8 Nov 12

county mad says...

Remember the promotion crowd at spytty never saw 1000s before or since , open a Facebook page then you can have all the 'likes' you want
Remember the promotion crowd at spytty never saw 1000s before or since , open a Facebook page then you can have all the 'likes' you want county mad
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8:28am Thu 8 Nov 12

swrxp09 says...

Have to agree with JE here. There will always be faithful supporters and fickle supporters with any team but it is the size of the drop-off that is worrying. In ratio terms it is like Liverpool home attendance averaging 45,000 and dropping to 25,000 after a couple of dissapointing results. We need minimum 2,000 hardcore fans.
Have to agree with JE here. There will always be faithful supporters and fickle supporters with any team but it is the size of the drop-off that is worrying. In ratio terms it is like Liverpool home attendance averaging 45,000 and dropping to 25,000 after a couple of dissapointing results. We need minimum 2,000 hardcore fans. swrxp09
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8:45am Thu 8 Nov 12

RSATaffy says...

This is like stepping back in time. Even the old County, playing at Somerton Park were subject to a fickle crowd. Then there were probably a hard core of around 3000 supporters. But as soon as the, then fairly regular, fight to avoid re-election came around the support fell to around 1700. I agree with Justin if you want a long overdue league side you have to be prepared to stand on wet cold terraces through thick and thin. If I was closer I would be there but 6000 miles is a long commute!!
This is like stepping back in time. Even the old County, playing at Somerton Park were subject to a fickle crowd. Then there were probably a hard core of around 3000 supporters. But as soon as the, then fairly regular, fight to avoid re-election came around the support fell to around 1700. I agree with Justin if you want a long overdue league side you have to be prepared to stand on wet cold terraces through thick and thin. If I was closer I would be there but 6000 miles is a long commute!! RSATaffy
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9:44am Thu 8 Nov 12

NakedDancer says...

No club at this level has a massive hardcore support that turn up win or lose, rain or shine. All clubs depend on the semi-regular and occasional supporter.

Other than the first six games and Tuesday the home performances have been average at best which probably explains the worrying dropoff.

But, we are top of the league, top scorers, best goal difference and with the leagues top scorer (O'Connor). Hopefully back to early season form and these players and the manager can't be faulted for effort. Come on people - SUPPORT THE COUNTY !
No club at this level has a massive hardcore support that turn up win or lose, rain or shine. All clubs depend on the semi-regular and occasional supporter. Other than the first six games and Tuesday the home performances have been average at best which probably explains the worrying dropoff. But, we are top of the league, top scorers, best goal difference and with the leagues top scorer (O'Connor). Hopefully back to early season form and these players and the manager can't be faulted for effort. Come on people - SUPPORT THE COUNTY ! NakedDancer
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10:40am Thu 8 Nov 12

Owain Vaughan says...

How many "absentees" are season-ticket holders? I personally know of at least three that weren't there on Tuesday because it was a school night. Does it matter if the club already has their money? Why should they be vilified? It is possible to be a fanatical supporter and still miss the odd game!
How many "absentees" are season-ticket holders? I personally know of at least three that weren't there on Tuesday because it was a school night. Does it matter if the club already has their money? Why should they be vilified? It is possible to be a fanatical supporter and still miss the odd game! Owain Vaughan
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11:04am Thu 8 Nov 12

ncfcr says...

If you read some of the comments on the County messageboard, it's enough to make you feel sick. Lose a couple of games and all of a sudden the players aren't good enough, etc, etc.

That just sums up the attitudes of people in the City. The floating fans will have been anticipating another defeat. Avoid defeat on Friday night, and we'll be back up near 3,000 for the Hyde game. It's just a one off in my opinion.
If you read some of the comments on the County messageboard, it's enough to make you feel sick. Lose a couple of games and all of a sudden the players aren't good enough, etc, etc. That just sums up the attitudes of people in the City. The floating fans will have been anticipating another defeat. Avoid defeat on Friday night, and we'll be back up near 3,000 for the Hyde game. It's just a one off in my opinion. ncfcr
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12:46pm Thu 8 Nov 12

jetspotter says...

Chicken and egg situation. The floating fan base won't turn up regularly until they can watch a successful team playing entertaining football, but it's impossible to build that successful team without the revenue supplied by the floating fan base! The trick is to get the floating fans to understand this conundrum and make them realise that simply by attending they are helping to build the dream and not simply attending a one off game. Good trick if you can do it !
Chicken and egg situation. The floating fan base won't turn up regularly until they can watch a successful team playing entertaining football, but it's impossible to build that successful team without the revenue supplied by the floating fan base! The trick is to get the floating fans to understand this conundrum and make them realise that simply by attending they are helping to build the dream and not simply attending a one off game. Good trick if you can do it ! jetspotter
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2:36pm Thu 8 Nov 12

Forester1 says...

It's too expensive.

Borussia Dortmund charge £12.19 for the most expensive match day terrace ticket for most games with a 20% increase for the six premium games. Borussia Dortmund v Bayern Munich is less than £15 and you can get it cheaper.

The most expensive season tickets at B. Dortmund are just under £180 which includes the group stages of the Champions League. This works out at £9/game and again, you can get it cheaper.

Paying £15-18 per game in this country to watch non-league football is an absolute joke and apart from the occasional game, I am priced out of it.
It's too expensive. Borussia Dortmund charge £12.19 for the most expensive match day terrace ticket for most games with a 20% increase for the six premium games. Borussia Dortmund v Bayern Munich is less than £15 and you can get it cheaper. The most expensive season tickets at B. Dortmund are just under £180 which includes the group stages of the Champions League. This works out at £9/game and again, you can get it cheaper. Paying £15-18 per game in this country to watch non-league football is an absolute joke and apart from the occasional game, I am priced out of it. Forester1
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2:56pm Thu 8 Nov 12

NakedDancer says...

There's no point comparing County to elite teams as they raise cash through large gates, sponsorship, TV revenue etc and that enables them to keep ticket prices down. A fairer comparison would be other conference teams.

Personally I think £17 per game is pretty good value compared to eg cost of sky TV. Guess it depends on your priorities and interests.
There's no point comparing County to elite teams as they raise cash through large gates, sponsorship, TV revenue etc and that enables them to keep ticket prices down. A fairer comparison would be other conference teams. Personally I think £17 per game is pretty good value compared to eg cost of sky TV. Guess it depends on your priorities and interests. NakedDancer
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3:54pm Thu 8 Nov 12

larneman says...

If each hardcore supporter brought just one friend. it would give us over 3000 a hard job I know but well worth the effort. like RSATAFFY I live miles away but what I would give to watch the county again.I'm saving the pennies to see them at easter.COME ON COUNTY.
If each hardcore supporter brought just one friend. it would give us over 3000 a hard job I know but well worth the effort. like RSATAFFY I live miles away but what I would give to watch the county again.I'm saving the pennies to see them at easter.COME ON COUNTY. larneman
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6:02pm Thu 8 Nov 12

COUNTYVOICE says...

my friend in work quite rightly said "compare where we are now to last year". (he;d seen his first match at rodney parade on tuesday night, HE'S A REGULAR COUNTY FAN BUT IS STRUGGLING TO AFFORD THE ADMISSION PRICE" , HINT HINT.

last year we were starring relegation in the face around this time.

hudson (spit) had left a right mess, in my opinion the then board made the most positive and decisive decision they v ever made at that time , and that was to get rid of hudson and appoint justin.

in these twelve months, relegation was avoided, we had a wembley appearance, proper talent recruited and now we are 4 points clear at the top , with a heck of a chance to get back into the football league.

if any criticism has been flying around recently then that is down to the obvious lack of defensive cover that threatens to derail what could be another record breaking season.

justin knows his stuff, and has recruited players on a shoe string budget, but surely a sign of a good leader is to listen to the comments made around him and see if there are any merit in them.not to view them as critising or moaning county fans.

county fans pay good money to watch their side and pay the players wages and are entitled to voice their opinions in a constructive way of course.

anyway back to my friend who watched his first match last night.he has 7 kids and regularly took his son last season to spytty.

his comments- too much too get in , burgers way overpriced , and the cost of a can of drink extortionate.

its these very fans that are being put off by these prices.

keep playing good football and the crowds will come back.i think the 1700 was just a blip as i dont think the average county fan would stay away when their team is top.

so keep it up county , well done justin on the last twelve months, but dont be so blinkered as not to listen to and assess the comments of the county fans, as that skill of listening is the sign of a REALLY GOOD MANAGER.

MARKP1667 THE HOME OF CHOICE,VALUE AND CUSTOMER SATISFACTION :-) (EBAY)
my friend in work quite rightly said "compare where we are now to last year". (he;d seen his first match at rodney parade on tuesday night, HE'S A REGULAR COUNTY FAN BUT IS STRUGGLING TO AFFORD THE ADMISSION PRICE" , HINT HINT. last year we were starring relegation in the face around this time. hudson (spit) had left a right mess, in my opinion the then board made the most positive and decisive decision they v ever made at that time , and that was to get rid of hudson and appoint justin. in these twelve months, relegation was avoided, we had a wembley appearance, proper talent recruited and now we are 4 points clear at the top , with a heck of a chance to get back into the football league. if any criticism has been flying around recently then that is down to the obvious lack of defensive cover that threatens to derail what could be another record breaking season. justin knows his stuff, and has recruited players on a shoe string budget, but surely a sign of a good leader is to listen to the comments made around him and see if there are any merit in them.not to view them as critising or moaning county fans. county fans pay good money to watch their side and pay the players wages and are entitled to voice their opinions in a constructive way of course. anyway back to my friend who watched his first match last night.he has 7 kids and regularly took his son last season to spytty. his comments- too much too get in , burgers way overpriced , and the cost of a can of drink extortionate. its these very fans that are being put off by these prices. keep playing good football and the crowds will come back.i think the 1700 was just a blip as i dont think the average county fan would stay away when their team is top. so keep it up county , well done justin on the last twelve months, but dont be so blinkered as not to listen to and assess the comments of the county fans, as that skill of listening is the sign of a REALLY GOOD MANAGER. MARKP1667 THE HOME OF CHOICE,VALUE AND CUSTOMER SATISFACTION :-) (EBAY) COUNTYVOICE
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8:02pm Thu 8 Nov 12

COUNTYVOICE says...

and justin smile a bit in your argus pics you look so serious all the time :-)
and justin smile a bit in your argus pics you look so serious all the time :-) COUNTYVOICE
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10:21pm Thu 8 Nov 12

Forester1 says...

NakedDancer wrote:
There's no point comparing County to elite teams as they raise cash through large gates, sponsorship, TV revenue etc and that enables them to keep ticket prices down. A fairer comparison would be other conference teams.

Personally I think £17 per game is pretty good value compared to eg cost of sky TV. Guess it depends on your priorities and interests.
I'm comparing non-league (effectively Division 5) in England to one of the top leagues in Europe, not County to anyone else. I didn't mention County.

Alfreton tomorrow night will cost me £18 admission.

I was talking to a WBA season ticket holder in the pub tonight. He says he paid around £360 for his season ticket.
[quote][p][bold]NakedDancer[/bold] wrote: There's no point comparing County to elite teams as they raise cash through large gates, sponsorship, TV revenue etc and that enables them to keep ticket prices down. A fairer comparison would be other conference teams. Personally I think £17 per game is pretty good value compared to eg cost of sky TV. Guess it depends on your priorities and interests.[/p][/quote]I'm comparing non-league (effectively Division 5) in England to one of the top leagues in Europe, not County to anyone else. I didn't mention County. Alfreton tomorrow night will cost me £18 admission. I was talking to a WBA season ticket holder in the pub tonight. He says he paid around £360 for his season ticket. Forester1
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9:11am Fri 9 Nov 12

the dork says...

Dear Justin
When I used to go to somerton park with my dad and i am talking about the days of alf sherwood ken hollyman and ray heading the ball over the railway line..............my old dad bless him always used to say that county would NEVER do any good because they don't get the crowds....that is as true now as it was then. It must be something about the population...maybe all the bed rock football supporters are apathetic or broke as parts of newport are deprived as we know. The rugby is the same but even the 3 other regions struggle to get english aviva premier size crowds. If the newport county benfactor wants to try and break this low support cycle the tickets need to imaginatively priced with things like 'kids for a quid' and 'old gits for 10 bob' with ther bus passes. Apathy rules OK.
sorry thats the nub of it Justin so make a name for yourself quickly and move on like Deano but don't sell your self short to a team like the shotts.
Thats it Justin old boy we are where we should be relative to our supporter base ..just keep us well up the leage as we deseve to be a Blue Sq Premier team.
All the best Justin keep you pecker up and do not expect too much at the turnstiles
Dear Justin When I used to go to somerton park with my dad and i am talking about the days of alf sherwood ken hollyman and ray heading the ball over the railway line..............my old dad bless him always used to say that county would NEVER do any good because they don't get the crowds....that is as true now as it was then. It must be something about the population...maybe all the bed rock football supporters are apathetic or broke as parts of newport are deprived as we know. The rugby is the same but even the 3 other regions struggle to get english aviva premier size crowds. If the newport county benfactor wants to try and break this low support cycle the tickets need to imaginatively priced with things like 'kids for a quid' and 'old gits for 10 bob' with ther bus passes. Apathy rules OK. sorry thats the nub of it Justin so make a name for yourself quickly and move on like Deano but don't sell your self short to a team like the shotts. Thats it Justin old boy we are where we should be relative to our supporter base ..just keep us well up the leage as we deseve to be a Blue Sq Premier team. All the best Justin keep you pecker up and do not expect too much at the turnstiles the dork
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10:48am Fri 9 Nov 12

ncfcr says...

Daft comment really Dork, when you look at teams like Accrington, Barnet, Morecambe, Dagenham, etc, in the football league.

The likes of Hartlepool survive in League One most years on crowds in the 3,000's.
Daft comment really Dork, when you look at teams like Accrington, Barnet, Morecambe, Dagenham, etc, in the football league. The likes of Hartlepool survive in League One most years on crowds in the 3,000's. ncfcr
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12:57pm Fri 9 Nov 12

the dork says...

All those successful clubs 'survive'' rubbing along the bottom. better to be a successful BSq team than cannon fodder. When is Dortmunds next home game?
All those successful clubs 'survive'' rubbing along the bottom. better to be a successful BSq team than cannon fodder. When is Dortmunds next home game? the dork
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