Dragons 27 Northampton 25

Dragons 27 Northampton 25

Dragons v Northampton Saints. Andy Powell gets the attention of the Saints (9824793)

Dragons v Northampton Saints. Jack Dixon puts his head down (9824803)

Dragons v Northampton Saints. Aled Brew leaps for the ball (9824797)

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APPROPRIATELY at the home of Ebbw Vale, Newport Gwent Dragons showed plenty of steel to record a stunning pre-season win against Northampton.

It seemed like they were going to have to be content with a solid showing in defeat against the English champions yet they will head into their Guinness Pro12 opener against Connacht on the back of an incredible comeback victory.

Tries at the death by lock Cory Hill and Tom Prydie plus a pair of conversions by the winger turned a 25-13 deficit into a 27-25 shock success.

It wasn’t just the victory which was encouraging, after all they count for very little in pre-season, because the Dragons stood firm in the tight against one of Europe’s leading packs while number eight Andy Powell was excellent, carrying hard and tackling harder.

The coaching duo of Lyn and Kingsley Jones will have learnt plenty from a tough outing against the formidable Saints, certainly more than they did when beating an underpowered Bristol and part-timers Lydney.

It was also a valuable exercise off the field and the region’s hierarchy will have plenty to ponder after being forced to play game away from Rodney Parade because of the Nato summit.

Much is said about the Dragons needing to engage more with those outside of Newport but a mouth-watering game against a Northampton line-up that included some of the biggest names in world rugby attracted a pretty disappointing crowd.

Yes, it was a filthy night but anybody with a season ticket for a club in the region, let alone Dragons regulars, could claim a free ticket and just 2,763 headed through the turnstiles to see the likes of George North, Dylan Hartley, Courtney Lawes and Luther Burrell.

That certainly is no fault of Ebbw Vale, who reinforced their reputation for giving one of the warmest welcomes in Welsh rugby, yet it does raise doubt about whether the Dragons will ever win hearts and minds, although such performances may help.

On the field the hosts were hit by a blow before kick-off when Taulupe Faletau was ruled out with a bad back, a problem that is not said to be serious.

It does, however, raise doubt about whether he will be in contention to start against Connacht next Saturday given that he has not taken to the field since Wales’ June defeat to South Africa in Nelspruit.

And the Dragons received another injury blow just 14 minutes into the game when influential centre Pat Leach went down writhing in agony, clutching his right knee.

He was helped from the field and the coaching Joneses are now down to their last fit ‘senior’ centres in Jack Dixon and Tyler Morgan – who are 19 and 18 respectively.

The conditions were perfect preparation for Galway with Sportsground-esque rain and wind ensuring there were plenty of umbrellas up on the newly-christened Clive Burgess Terrace.

The Saints opened the scoring through the right boot of fly-half Will Hooley but his opposite number Jason Tovey levelled with his left peg and it was 3-3 approaching the quarter.

The visitors slowly built up the pressure with their notorious driving lineout and the call from captain Dylan Hartley came to go for the corner with penalties rather than the posts.

The Dragons were being given a stern test at the set piece but they stood firm with the Stankovich-Dee-Fairbrother doing a fine job.

Northampton were attempting to put the squeeze on through their tight five yet it was the backs that helped stretch away before half-time.

Hooley banged over a smart drop goal and then George Pisi crossed after his brother Ken had fielded an excellent Burrell crosskick and shipped on to Lee Dickson, who provided the scoring pass.

And the Samoan centre was over for his second before the break when he charged down a clearance by Tovey – who had previously struck some marvellous touch-finders – and raced over.

Hooley added the extras before the Dragons fly-half had the final say of the half to make it 18-6.

And it was the hosts that struck first after the restart when the ball fell kindly for Aled Brew after a Lee Byrne up-and-under, enabling the winger to race over for a score that Tovey improved.

But any hopes of a comeback were quashed when Northampton full-back James Wilson slid in down the right to make it 25-13.

Both benches were emptied and the game then appeared to be drifting to an end, but then came the Dragons’ late flurry after a pair of Saint errors, Hill finishing off after teenage centre Barney Nightingale burst through and Prydie hacking through and then gathering a loose ball.

Dragons: L Byrne (G R Jones 59), T Prydie, P Leach (T Morgan 14), J Dixon (B Nightingale 72), A Brew (M Pewtner 56), J Tovey (A O’Brien 59), J Evans (D Jones 67), B Stankovich (O Evans 47), E Dee (R Thomas 53), L Fairbrother (D Young 43, D Way 63), R Landman (I Gough 47, M Screech 78), M Screech (C Hill 47), A Coombs (L Evans 43), N Cudd (S Matthews 63, J Benjamin 72), A Powell (J Thomas 60).

Scorers: tries – A Brew, C Hill, T Prydie; conversions – J Tovey, T Prydie (2); penalties – J Tovey (2)

Northampton: J Wilson , K Pisi, G Pisi, L Burrell, G North, W Hooley, L Dickson, A Corbisiero, D Hartley (captain), S Ma’afu, C Lawes, C Day, C Clark, T Wood, S Manoa. Replacements: R McMillan, A Waller, G Denman, J Craig, C Dolan, T Harrison, J Fisher, J Fotual’i, D Waldouck, J Elliott, H Packman, J Skelcey, S Olver.

Scorers: tries – G Pisi (2), J Wilson; conversions – W Hooley (2); penalty – W Hooley; drop goal – W Hooley

Referee: Ian Davies (WRU)

Argus star man: Andy Powell

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9:44pm Fri 29 Aug 14

spaniard says...

An excellent win, now we have beaten one of the top teams in the Mickey Mouse league what are the chances of getting a result at Connaught, we are due one
An excellent win, now we have beaten one of the top teams in the Mickey Mouse league what are the chances of getting a result at Connaught, we are due one spaniard
  • Score: 15

9:49pm Fri 29 Aug 14

CaptainB says...

A great result, plenty to be happy about, but 53 years of visiting RP has given me many false dawns, one thing that looks certain is that visitors to RP are going to find it a painful experience, ROCK ON DRAGONS!!!!!
I don't mind loosing as long as the oposition know they have been in a Contest, I think Mr Stankovich knows a few of the Dark Arts of the front row, bring on the Guiness Pro12!!!!
A great result, plenty to be happy about, but 53 years of visiting RP has given me many false dawns, one thing that looks certain is that visitors to RP are going to find it a painful experience, ROCK ON DRAGONS!!!!! I don't mind loosing as long as the oposition know they have been in a Contest, I think Mr Stankovich knows a few of the Dark Arts of the front row, bring on the Guiness Pro12!!!! CaptainB
  • Score: 18

10:04pm Fri 29 Aug 14

corpardguy says...

All new signings rock, and the never give up attitude was prevalent. Well done all concerned and this was a really really good team effort.
Could ol' Max Boyce make up a Dragons ballad now please.....
All new signings rock, and the never give up attitude was prevalent. Well done all concerned and this was a really really good team effort. Could ol' Max Boyce make up a Dragons ballad now please..... corpardguy
  • Score: 15

10:10pm Fri 29 Aug 14

newport15 says...

great performance at a very soulless venue, the saints put out a star team and where were the rugby fans in the valleys? i only saw familiar faces from newport, if the game was played at RP it would have been 6k plus, as i have said before its looking good for this season, lets hope NATO dont visit too often
great performance at a very soulless venue, the saints put out a star team and where were the rugby fans in the valleys? i only saw familiar faces from newport, if the game was played at RP it would have been 6k plus, as i have said before its looking good for this season, lets hope NATO dont visit too often newport15
  • Score: 7

10:30pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Jammie Dodger says...

Great evening out, great result and great to see the new signings doing what they need to do. Can't help but feel this was Ebbw Vales chance to see a great game packed full of class players and most stayed away. Shame really as they missed out on a cracker!
Great evening out, great result and great to see the new signings doing what they need to do. Can't help but feel this was Ebbw Vales chance to see a great game packed full of class players and most stayed away. Shame really as they missed out on a cracker! Jammie Dodger
  • Score: 20

10:56pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Risca1 says...

Jammie Dodger wrote:
Great evening out, great result and great to see the new signings doing what they need to do. Can't help but feel this was Ebbw Vales chance to see a great game packed full of class players and most stayed away. Shame really as they missed out on a cracker!
Very childish throw away comments. Take a friendly on a filthy night at holiday season and expect everyone from the valleys to come out in support. If the board has any sense they will build on the success of the evening. The base is now in Ystrad Mynach so no reason why the board should not continue to seek to continue to take the Dragons out of Newport. Wake up and smell the coffee.
[quote][p][bold]Jammie Dodger[/bold] wrote: Great evening out, great result and great to see the new signings doing what they need to do. Can't help but feel this was Ebbw Vales chance to see a great game packed full of class players and most stayed away. Shame really as they missed out on a cracker![/p][/quote]Very childish throw away comments. Take a friendly on a filthy night at holiday season and expect everyone from the valleys to come out in support. If the board has any sense they will build on the success of the evening. The base is now in Ystrad Mynach so no reason why the board should not continue to seek to continue to take the Dragons out of Newport. Wake up and smell the coffee. Risca1
  • Score: -20

10:59pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Dragonsfan81 says...

I'm stunned by this result! What a result! Sounds like a great game! I'm glad Andy has proven people wrong already.. great result! Bring on this season and the pro12! 3 wins out of 3, good form for the season.
I'm stunned by this result! What a result! Sounds like a great game! I'm glad Andy has proven people wrong already.. great result! Bring on this season and the pro12! 3 wins out of 3, good form for the season. Dragonsfan81
  • Score: 16

11:17pm Fri 29 Aug 14

rugbyfan66 says...

newport15 wrote:
great performance at a very soulless venue, the saints put out a star team and where were the rugby fans in the valleys? i only saw familiar faces from newport, if the game was played at RP it would have been 6k plus, as i have said before its looking good for this season, lets hope NATO dont visit too often
You only saw supporters from Newport but it was the venue that was soulless? I agree that there was no atmosphere but it's the supporters who create atmosphere. I've seen games with much better atmosphere at ECP with only a quarter of tonight's crowd. Seen better Division 1 games too. Personally I feel a bit meh about the whole thing. Come back, don't come back I don't care either way
[quote][p][bold]newport15[/bold] wrote: great performance at a very soulless venue, the saints put out a star team and where were the rugby fans in the valleys? i only saw familiar faces from newport, if the game was played at RP it would have been 6k plus, as i have said before its looking good for this season, lets hope NATO dont visit too often[/p][/quote]You only saw supporters from Newport but it was the venue that was soulless? I agree that there was no atmosphere but it's the supporters who create atmosphere. I've seen games with much better atmosphere at ECP with only a quarter of tonight's crowd. Seen better Division 1 games too. Personally I feel a bit meh about the whole thing. Come back, don't come back I don't care either way rugbyfan66
  • Score: -28

11:41pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Game says...

Have a feeling there was more than 2700 odd in. Anyway, it's pretty poor form to criticise Chris, given the weather etc. Northampton might've had a strong team out, but we aren't talking big superstars really like a Dan Carter or whatever.

I do think there were a fair few valleys people there. Seemed to be a lot more alright butts flying about than down Rodney for a start. The atmosphere wasn't great, but it was a friendly and the weather wasn't really conducive to people being bang up for a sing song etc. I do think it was a beneficial trip and I would take LV games there. Not many teams would fancy a trip to a ground like that. We should use it to our advantage a bit more. I accept Rodney Parade is a bear pit too, but it's a bit plusher than EXP.
Have a feeling there was more than 2700 odd in. Anyway, it's pretty poor form to criticise Chris, given the weather etc. Northampton might've had a strong team out, but we aren't talking big superstars really like a Dan Carter or whatever. I do think there were a fair few valleys people there. Seemed to be a lot more alright butts flying about than down Rodney for a start. The atmosphere wasn't great, but it was a friendly and the weather wasn't really conducive to people being bang up for a sing song etc. I do think it was a beneficial trip and I would take LV games there. Not many teams would fancy a trip to a ground like that. We should use it to our advantage a bit more. I accept Rodney Parade is a bear pit too, but it's a bit plusher than EXP. Game
  • Score: 15

12:03am Sat 30 Aug 14

stevey says...

newport15 wrote:
great performance at a very soulless venue, the saints put out a star team and where were the rugby fans in the valleys? i only saw familiar faces from newport, if the game was played at RP it would have been 6k plus, as i have said before its looking good for this season, lets hope NATO dont visit too often
Everyone I talked to had a positive view of the venue and event, so sad that YOU continually talk the valley's down, but then again newport15 we should expect it from you.
[quote][p][bold]newport15[/bold] wrote: great performance at a very soulless venue, the saints put out a star team and where were the rugby fans in the valleys? i only saw familiar faces from newport, if the game was played at RP it would have been 6k plus, as i have said before its looking good for this season, lets hope NATO dont visit too often[/p][/quote]Everyone I talked to had a positive view of the venue and event, so sad that YOU continually talk the valley's down, but then again newport15 we should expect it from you. stevey
  • Score: 10

12:10am Sat 30 Aug 14

stevey says...

The atmosphere is created by the supporters, people went to the game that do not normally support the Dragons, there were few Northampton supporters, there were quite a few club rugby supporters, the rest were Dragon supporters so pick out of that what you wish for!
There were many tickets given away for free as usual so the gate figure may not be accurate.
The atmosphere is created by the supporters, people went to the game that do not normally support the Dragons, there were few Northampton supporters, there were quite a few club rugby supporters, the rest were Dragon supporters so pick out of that what you wish for! There were many tickets given away for free as usual so the gate figure may not be accurate. stevey
  • Score: 10

1:09am Sat 30 Aug 14

broadsworddan says...

Really poor article Chris Kirwan. Me, all my family, everyone else we spoke to thought that it was a great success to take the show on the road to Ebbw Vale. There was definitely more people there than that. Our tickets weren't even checked and neither were any of the people around us. We had a great time, so did everyone else. There were loads of non regular supporters there. I'm sure there were 3500 there, and there would have been another 1000 if we'd had lovely weather. Stop being so negative. Taking our game around the region is only ever going to be a good thing.
Really poor article Chris Kirwan. Me, all my family, everyone else we spoke to thought that it was a great success to take the show on the road to Ebbw Vale. There was definitely more people there than that. Our tickets weren't even checked and neither were any of the people around us. We had a great time, so did everyone else. There were loads of non regular supporters there. I'm sure there were 3500 there, and there would have been another 1000 if we'd had lovely weather. Stop being so negative. Taking our game around the region is only ever going to be a good thing. broadsworddan
  • Score: 15

6:46am Sat 30 Aug 14

SWBorderer says...

Excellent result, pre-season is all about testing new ideas and building confidence, so much better than last year. Now comes the real test, Galway is never an easy place to go but with confidence high we need to do a good job there.
Excellent result, pre-season is all about testing new ideas and building confidence, so much better than last year. Now comes the real test, Galway is never an easy place to go but with confidence high we need to do a good job there. SWBorderer
  • Score: 14

6:52am Sat 30 Aug 14

Robert Shillabeer says...

broadsworddan wrote:
Really poor article Chris Kirwan. Me, all my family, everyone else we spoke to thought that it was a great success to take the show on the road to Ebbw Vale. There was definitely more people there than that. Our tickets weren't even checked and neither were any of the people around us. We had a great time, so did everyone else. There were loads of non regular supporters there. I'm sure there were 3500 there, and there would have been another 1000 if we'd had lovely weather. Stop being so negative. Taking our game around the region is only ever going to be a good thing.
Very true, we estimated about four thousand supporters were there with a good smattering of Sharke supporters. Had a family behind me in the stand who were from Ebbw Vale area and they seemed to enjoy the game greatly as I'm sure many supporters did. One downside to the game was the very poor performance by the ref on at least one occasion he let the visitors have an advantage but pinged the Dragons instantly for an infringement by the Saints, that with his seemingly ignorance of the off side laws resulted in a very poor performance by him and his failure to at least yellow card the spear tackle in the second half showed how poor a game he had, but onward and upward they say.
[quote][p][bold]broadsworddan[/bold] wrote: Really poor article Chris Kirwan. Me, all my family, everyone else we spoke to thought that it was a great success to take the show on the road to Ebbw Vale. There was definitely more people there than that. Our tickets weren't even checked and neither were any of the people around us. We had a great time, so did everyone else. There were loads of non regular supporters there. I'm sure there were 3500 there, and there would have been another 1000 if we'd had lovely weather. Stop being so negative. Taking our game around the region is only ever going to be a good thing.[/p][/quote]Very true, we estimated about four thousand supporters were there with a good smattering of Sharke supporters. Had a family behind me in the stand who were from Ebbw Vale area and they seemed to enjoy the game greatly as I'm sure many supporters did. One downside to the game was the very poor performance by the ref on at least one occasion he let the visitors have an advantage but pinged the Dragons instantly for an infringement by the Saints, that with his seemingly ignorance of the off side laws resulted in a very poor performance by him and his failure to at least yellow card the spear tackle in the second half showed how poor a game he had, but onward and upward they say. Robert Shillabeer
  • Score: 7

9:57am Sat 30 Aug 14

JJ1980 says...

I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.
I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge. JJ1980
  • Score: 12

10:00am Sat 30 Aug 14

JJ1980 says...

Oh and one eyed Newport fans, please feel free to mark me down. I supported Newport RFC since the early 1990's and then the Dragons. If you're so petty and bitter that you will "refuse to attend" if Newport is dropped from the name then you're not a real fan. In case you hadn't noticed Newport RFC play on Saturday afternoons. Remind me again how many people turn up for that? 300? 400? You're all living in 1998. Get over yourselves.
Oh and one eyed Newport fans, please feel free to mark me down. I supported Newport RFC since the early 1990's and then the Dragons. If you're so petty and bitter that you will "refuse to attend" if Newport is dropped from the name then you're not a real fan. In case you hadn't noticed Newport RFC play on Saturday afternoons. Remind me again how many people turn up for that? 300? 400? You're all living in 1998. Get over yourselves. JJ1980
  • Score: 11

10:06am Sat 30 Aug 14

Risca1 says...

How many of the so called 'Newport RFC' fans will be at Bedwas this afternoon? 8,000 fans have gone missing! Shame to see such a famous club being so poorly supported. Memories eh!
How many of the so called 'Newport RFC' fans will be at Bedwas this afternoon? 8,000 fans have gone missing! Shame to see such a famous club being so poorly supported. Memories eh! Risca1
  • Score: 5

10:16am Sat 30 Aug 14

SWBorderer says...

It really is about time people grew up and stopped this stupid bickering, you can call the team anything you want, the fact remains it is the only team representing East Wales. The world is not the way we would like it to be so just get over it.
It really is about time people grew up and stopped this stupid bickering, you can call the team anything you want, the fact remains it is the only team representing East Wales. The world is not the way we would like it to be so just get over it. SWBorderer
  • Score: 19

10:25am Sat 30 Aug 14

broadsworddan says...

JJ1980 wrote:
I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.
There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.
[quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.[/p][/quote]There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support. broadsworddan
  • Score: 7

10:43am Sat 30 Aug 14

Euwan Usami says...

broadsworddan wrote:
JJ1980 wrote:
I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.
There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.
It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.
[quote][p][bold]broadsworddan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.[/p][/quote]There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.[/p][/quote]It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now. Euwan Usami
  • Score: 11

12:50pm Sat 30 Aug 14

salesman66 says...

On what was more like a Novembers night what an experience to see the Norhampton Saints playing in Ebbw Vale,and you can certainly see why they are the English Champions,in all fairness to the Dragons they fronted up to them and were obviously up for it.What a brilliant result,felt sorry for my brother and his 2 daughters who support the Saints and who were with me at the game,my brother now living back in Wales,but the girls still living in the Norhampton Area,but they enjoyed the game.
On what was more like a Novembers night what an experience to see the Norhampton Saints playing in Ebbw Vale,and you can certainly see why they are the English Champions,in all fairness to the Dragons they fronted up to them and were obviously up for it.What a brilliant result,felt sorry for my brother and his 2 daughters who support the Saints and who were with me at the game,my brother now living back in Wales,but the girls still living in the Norhampton Area,but they enjoyed the game. salesman66
  • Score: 10

12:54pm Sat 30 Aug 14

salesman66 says...

P.S The Dragons prop Owen Evans is a third cousin to me and came off the bench and had a good game.So well done to him.
P.S The Dragons prop Owen Evans is a third cousin to me and came off the bench and had a good game.So well done to him. salesman66
  • Score: 10

12:59pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Amber in the blood says...

Great result for Newport,Northampton are a quality outfit.......Thanks to the small amount of valley people who came out to support Newport,hope to see you at Rodney Parade.
Great result for Newport,Northampton are a quality outfit.......Thanks to the small amount of valley people who came out to support Newport,hope to see you at Rodney Parade. Amber in the blood
  • Score: -13

1:00pm Sat 30 Aug 14

stevey says...

Euwan Usami wrote:
broadsworddan wrote:
JJ1980 wrote:
I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.
There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.
It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.
People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.
[quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]broadsworddan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.[/p][/quote]There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.[/p][/quote]It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.[/p][/quote]People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement. stevey
  • Score: 1

1:12pm Sat 30 Aug 14

stevey says...

Amber in the blood wrote:
Great result for Newport,Northampton are a quality outfit.......Thanks to the small amount of valley people who came out to support Newport,hope to see you at Rodney Parade.
Poor attempt at a wind up, quite a few locals attended the game. As said by others on here there are only 300 to 400 going to Dave Parade these days so your view doesn't really count. There was a good game at a good venue and a warm welcome was extended and appreciated as was acknowledged by the Dragons post match.
[quote][p][bold]Amber in the blood[/bold] wrote: Great result for Newport,Northampton are a quality outfit.......Thanks to the small amount of valley people who came out to support Newport,hope to see you at Rodney Parade.[/p][/quote]Poor attempt at a wind up, quite a few locals attended the game. As said by others on here there are only 300 to 400 going to Dave Parade these days so your view doesn't really count. There was a good game at a good venue and a warm welcome was extended and appreciated as was acknowledged by the Dragons post match. stevey
  • Score: 8

3:10pm Sat 30 Aug 14

the-dragons says...

How did andy powell play
How did andy powell play the-dragons
  • Score: 1

3:46pm Sat 30 Aug 14

newport15 says...

stevey wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
broadsworddan wrote:
JJ1980 wrote:
I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.
There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.
It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.
People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.
maybe the odd LV cup game could be played outside the city but Newports other games will all be at RP, best stadium/facilities by a mile in the area, really need to show intent and turn over connaught next week who have always been a bogey side for us
[quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]broadsworddan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.[/p][/quote]There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.[/p][/quote]It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.[/p][/quote]People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.[/p][/quote]maybe the odd LV cup game could be played outside the city but Newports other games will all be at RP, best stadium/facilities by a mile in the area, really need to show intent and turn over connaught next week who have always been a bogey side for us newport15
  • Score: 8

4:42pm Sat 30 Aug 14

broadsworddan says...

Andy Powell played out of his skin. Man of the match. Warren will have to reconsider him if he pulls a couple more of those out the bag.
Andy Powell played out of his skin. Man of the match. Warren will have to reconsider him if he pulls a couple more of those out the bag. broadsworddan
  • Score: 8

9:51pm Sat 30 Aug 14

b3talover says...

Andy Powell was incredible. It took two or three Saints players to haul him down on every carry. He was attracting defenders like flies and creating holes in a very organised defence to be fair. Good performance, but don't get too carried away. We only won due to the rub of the green and Saints changed a few towards the end (as did we). ECP is still a god awful deathtrap I'm sorry to say.
Andy Powell was incredible. It took two or three Saints players to haul him down on every carry. He was attracting defenders like flies and creating holes in a very organised defence to be fair. Good performance, but don't get too carried away. We only won due to the rub of the green and Saints changed a few towards the end (as did we). ECP is still a god awful deathtrap I'm sorry to say. b3talover
  • Score: 5

10:24pm Sat 30 Aug 14

DaiFrank says...

First of all well done to the NEWPORT gd's for this win against a strong Northampton team. Regarding the size of the crowd, it was poor and before any of you Gwentists (Gwent doesn't exist by the way) get on your high valley horses, the crowds are RP have been poor for years because of the conflicted identity. That said, this was a golden opportunity for the valley people to come out and offer their full support to watch an impressive Northampton side and you failed. What is more, the NEWPORT gd's played in their away kit to appease the Gwentists when they should have played in their home kit with NEWPORT written boldly on it. This was a home game because if it wasn't then why play there? Now the real litmus test is for the those few folk who made the effort, to go to RP in Newport (yes that's home) and watch the NEWPORT gd's play, not in their away kit to appease you lot, but in the kit which, yes has black and amber in it. The management at RP should have more guts and acknowledge that there is just far too much water under the bridge for this spat to go away and follow Cardiff's move. Black and Blue kit - Black and Amber kit, hoops and all.
First of all well done to the NEWPORT gd's for this win against a strong Northampton team. Regarding the size of the crowd, it was poor and before any of you Gwentists (Gwent doesn't exist by the way) get on your high valley horses, the crowds are RP have been poor for years because of the conflicted identity. That said, this was a golden opportunity for the valley people to come out and offer their full support to watch an impressive Northampton side and you failed. What is more, the NEWPORT gd's played in their away kit to appease the Gwentists when they should have played in their home kit with NEWPORT written boldly on it. This was a home game because if it wasn't then why play there? Now the real litmus test is for the those few folk who made the effort, to go to RP in Newport (yes that's home) and watch the NEWPORT gd's play, not in their away kit to appease you lot, but in the kit which, yes has black and amber in it. The management at RP should have more guts and acknowledge that there is just far too much water under the bridge for this spat to go away and follow Cardiff's move. Black and Blue kit - Black and Amber kit, hoops and all. DaiFrank
  • Score: -12

1:11am Sun 31 Aug 14

Euwan Usami says...

DaiFrank wrote:
First of all well done to the NEWPORT gd's for this win against a strong Northampton team. Regarding the size of the crowd, it was poor and before any of you Gwentists (Gwent doesn't exist by the way) get on your high valley horses, the crowds are RP have been poor for years because of the conflicted identity. That said, this was a golden opportunity for the valley people to come out and offer their full support to watch an impressive Northampton side and you failed. What is more, the NEWPORT gd's played in their away kit to appease the Gwentists when they should have played in their home kit with NEWPORT written boldly on it. This was a home game because if it wasn't then why play there? Now the real litmus test is for the those few folk who made the effort, to go to RP in Newport (yes that's home) and watch the NEWPORT gd's play, not in their away kit to appease you lot, but in the kit which, yes has black and amber in it. The management at RP should have more guts and acknowledge that there is just far too much water under the bridge for this spat to go away and follow Cardiff's move. Black and Blue kit - Black and Amber kit, hoops and all.
Yawn. Seems Dai is still copying and pasting his posts from last season. They still have Newport on the shirt Dai and they look like winning a few more this season. Got some quality players too. Go on. Give it a go. You might like the Guinness Pro12 rugby.
[quote][p][bold]DaiFrank[/bold] wrote: First of all well done to the NEWPORT gd's for this win against a strong Northampton team. Regarding the size of the crowd, it was poor and before any of you Gwentists (Gwent doesn't exist by the way) get on your high valley horses, the crowds are RP have been poor for years because of the conflicted identity. That said, this was a golden opportunity for the valley people to come out and offer their full support to watch an impressive Northampton side and you failed. What is more, the NEWPORT gd's played in their away kit to appease the Gwentists when they should have played in their home kit with NEWPORT written boldly on it. This was a home game because if it wasn't then why play there? Now the real litmus test is for the those few folk who made the effort, to go to RP in Newport (yes that's home) and watch the NEWPORT gd's play, not in their away kit to appease you lot, but in the kit which, yes has black and amber in it. The management at RP should have more guts and acknowledge that there is just far too much water under the bridge for this spat to go away and follow Cardiff's move. Black and Blue kit - Black and Amber kit, hoops and all.[/p][/quote]Yawn. Seems Dai is still copying and pasting his posts from last season. They still have Newport on the shirt Dai and they look like winning a few more this season. Got some quality players too. Go on. Give it a go. You might like the Guinness Pro12 rugby. Euwan Usami
  • Score: 6

1:34am Sun 31 Aug 14

Euwan Usami says...

stevey wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
broadsworddan wrote:
JJ1980 wrote:
I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.
There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.
It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.
People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.
I agree the name has always been an issue for some. Personally I have a Newport RFC and a Dragon's ST and I see them as separate entities and enjoy flowing both. For some old school Newport supporters the regional system has always been a step too far. These days I personally think many have moved on and accept the indentity of the "Dragons". LJ is pushing the regional identity. The away strips don't have "Newport" on them. Only the "G" logo for Gwent Dragons. We would not see that sort of thing if he and the board thought the majority of supporters wanted the side to be called Newport imo. I think we will see more movement to a regional identity in time. Though some will never accept it, new fans will come with success and they don't have any of the old transitional baggage to Colour their opinions.
[quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]broadsworddan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.[/p][/quote]There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.[/p][/quote]It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.[/p][/quote]People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.[/p][/quote]I agree the name has always been an issue for some. Personally I have a Newport RFC and a Dragon's ST and I see them as separate entities and enjoy flowing both. For some old school Newport supporters the regional system has always been a step too far. These days I personally think many have moved on and accept the indentity of the "Dragons". LJ is pushing the regional identity. The away strips don't have "Newport" on them. Only the "G" logo for Gwent Dragons. We would not see that sort of thing if he and the board thought the majority of supporters wanted the side to be called Newport imo. I think we will see more movement to a regional identity in time. Though some will never accept it, new fans will come with success and they don't have any of the old transitional baggage to Colour their opinions. Euwan Usami
  • Score: 11

6:28pm Sun 31 Aug 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

Euwan Usami wrote:
stevey wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
broadsworddan wrote:
JJ1980 wrote:
I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.
There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.
It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.
People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.
I agree the name has always been an issue for some. Personally I have a Newport RFC and a Dragon's ST and I see them as separate entities and enjoy flowing both. For some old school Newport supporters the regional system has always been a step too far. These days I personally think many have moved on and accept the indentity of the "Dragons". LJ is pushing the regional identity. The away strips don't have "Newport" on them. Only the "G" logo for Gwent Dragons. We would not see that sort of thing if he and the board thought the majority of supporters wanted the side to be called Newport imo. I think we will see more movement to a regional identity in time. Though some will never accept it, new fans will come with success and they don't have any of the old transitional baggage to Colour their opinions.
Why does it matter what Lyn Jones has to say regarding the name of the outfit? Smacks of tail wagging the dog at best.

His job is to fashion a squad to compete.
[quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]broadsworddan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.[/p][/quote]There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.[/p][/quote]It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.[/p][/quote]People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.[/p][/quote]I agree the name has always been an issue for some. Personally I have a Newport RFC and a Dragon's ST and I see them as separate entities and enjoy flowing both. For some old school Newport supporters the regional system has always been a step too far. These days I personally think many have moved on and accept the indentity of the "Dragons". LJ is pushing the regional identity. The away strips don't have "Newport" on them. Only the "G" logo for Gwent Dragons. We would not see that sort of thing if he and the board thought the majority of supporters wanted the side to be called Newport imo. I think we will see more movement to a regional identity in time. Though some will never accept it, new fans will come with success and they don't have any of the old transitional baggage to Colour their opinions.[/p][/quote]Why does it matter what Lyn Jones has to say regarding the name of the outfit? Smacks of tail wagging the dog at best. His job is to fashion a squad to compete. The People's Republic of Newp
  • Score: 1

9:25pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Euwan Usami says...

The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
stevey wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
broadsworddan wrote:
JJ1980 wrote:
I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.
There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.
It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.
People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.
I agree the name has always been an issue for some. Personally I have a Newport RFC and a Dragon's ST and I see them as separate entities and enjoy flowing both. For some old school Newport supporters the regional system has always been a step too far. These days I personally think many have moved on and accept the indentity of the "Dragons". LJ is pushing the regional identity. The away strips don't have "Newport" on them. Only the "G" logo for Gwent Dragons. We would not see that sort of thing if he and the board thought the majority of supporters wanted the side to be called Newport imo. I think we will see more movement to a regional identity in time. Though some will never accept it, new fans will come with success and they don't have any of the old transitional baggage to Colour their opinions.
Why does it matter what Lyn Jones has to say regarding the name of the outfit? Smacks of tail wagging the dog at best.

His job is to fashion a squad to compete.
In fairness ;Who's suggesting this is LJ decision?
[quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]broadsworddan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.[/p][/quote]There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.[/p][/quote]It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.[/p][/quote]People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.[/p][/quote]I agree the name has always been an issue for some. Personally I have a Newport RFC and a Dragon's ST and I see them as separate entities and enjoy flowing both. For some old school Newport supporters the regional system has always been a step too far. These days I personally think many have moved on and accept the indentity of the "Dragons". LJ is pushing the regional identity. The away strips don't have "Newport" on them. Only the "G" logo for Gwent Dragons. We would not see that sort of thing if he and the board thought the majority of supporters wanted the side to be called Newport imo. I think we will see more movement to a regional identity in time. Though some will never accept it, new fans will come with success and they don't have any of the old transitional baggage to Colour their opinions.[/p][/quote]Why does it matter what Lyn Jones has to say regarding the name of the outfit? Smacks of tail wagging the dog at best. His job is to fashion a squad to compete.[/p][/quote]In fairness ;Who's suggesting this is LJ decision? Euwan Usami
  • Score: 0

5:23am Mon 1 Sep 14

East Newport Dave says...

11 years on and we are still bickering about the name. As far as I am concerned the supporters shout 'Dragons' and have done so for years. What we need is a winning team. A few years of success would build support and suddenly the name and colour would be much less of an issue.
11 years on and we are still bickering about the name. As far as I am concerned the supporters shout 'Dragons' and have done so for years. What we need is a winning team. A few years of success would build support and suddenly the name and colour would be much less of an issue. East Newport Dave
  • Score: 7

7:54am Mon 1 Sep 14

jimmysmith says...

Dragonsfan81 wrote:
I'm stunned by this result! What a result! Sounds like a great game! I'm glad Andy has proven people wrong already.. great result! Bring on this season and the pro12! 3 wins out of 3, good form for the season.
long way to go yet as far as andys concerned .one swallow doesnt make a summer .great result all the same .maybe if the dragons dropped the newport and played a few games around the valleys ,they d get a lot more support as well .ps on his day andy powell is as good a number 8 in the country ,its keeping him out the pub and clubs is the problem
[quote][p][bold]Dragonsfan81[/bold] wrote: I'm stunned by this result! What a result! Sounds like a great game! I'm glad Andy has proven people wrong already.. great result! Bring on this season and the pro12! 3 wins out of 3, good form for the season.[/p][/quote]long way to go yet as far as andys concerned .one swallow doesnt make a summer .great result all the same .maybe if the dragons dropped the newport and played a few games around the valleys ,they d get a lot more support as well .ps on his day andy powell is as good a number 8 in the country ,its keeping him out the pub and clubs is the problem jimmysmith
  • Score: 5

10:15am Wed 3 Sep 14

The People's Republic of Newp says...

Euwan Usami wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
stevey wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
broadsworddan wrote:
JJ1980 wrote:
I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.
There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.
It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.
People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.
I agree the name has always been an issue for some. Personally I have a Newport RFC and a Dragon's ST and I see them as separate entities and enjoy flowing both. For some old school Newport supporters the regional system has always been a step too far. These days I personally think many have moved on and accept the indentity of the "Dragons". LJ is pushing the regional identity. The away strips don't have "Newport" on them. Only the "G" logo for Gwent Dragons. We would not see that sort of thing if he and the board thought the majority of supporters wanted the side to be called Newport imo. I think we will see more movement to a regional identity in time. Though some will never accept it, new fans will come with success and they don't have any of the old transitional baggage to Colour their opinions.
Why does it matter what Lyn Jones has to say regarding the name of the outfit? Smacks of tail wagging the dog at best.

His job is to fashion a squad to compete.
In fairness ;Who's suggesting this is LJ decision?
"LJ is pushing the regional identity".
[quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]broadsworddan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.[/p][/quote]There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.[/p][/quote]It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.[/p][/quote]People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.[/p][/quote]I agree the name has always been an issue for some. Personally I have a Newport RFC and a Dragon's ST and I see them as separate entities and enjoy flowing both. For some old school Newport supporters the regional system has always been a step too far. These days I personally think many have moved on and accept the indentity of the "Dragons". LJ is pushing the regional identity. The away strips don't have "Newport" on them. Only the "G" logo for Gwent Dragons. We would not see that sort of thing if he and the board thought the majority of supporters wanted the side to be called Newport imo. I think we will see more movement to a regional identity in time. Though some will never accept it, new fans will come with success and they don't have any of the old transitional baggage to Colour their opinions.[/p][/quote]Why does it matter what Lyn Jones has to say regarding the name of the outfit? Smacks of tail wagging the dog at best. His job is to fashion a squad to compete.[/p][/quote]In fairness ;Who's suggesting this is LJ decision?[/p][/quote]"LJ is pushing the regional identity". The People's Republic of Newp
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11:26am Wed 3 Sep 14

Euwan Usami says...

The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
stevey wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
broadsworddan wrote:
JJ1980 wrote:
I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.
There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.
It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.
People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.
I agree the name has always been an issue for some. Personally I have a Newport RFC and a Dragon's ST and I see them as separate entities and enjoy flowing both. For some old school Newport supporters the regional system has always been a step too far. These days I personally think many have moved on and accept the indentity of the "Dragons". LJ is pushing the regional identity. The away strips don't have "Newport" on them. Only the "G" logo for Gwent Dragons. We would not see that sort of thing if he and the board thought the majority of supporters wanted the side to be called Newport imo. I think we will see more movement to a regional identity in time. Though some will never accept it, new fans will come with success and they don't have any of the old transitional baggage to Colour their opinions.
Why does it matter what Lyn Jones has to say regarding the name of the outfit? Smacks of tail wagging the dog at best.

His job is to fashion a squad to compete.
In fairness ;Who's suggesting this is LJ decision?
"LJ is pushing the regional identity".
Lol, he's the mouthpiece without doubt yes. Does that mean he makes unilateral decisions without the backing of his employer? Seems unlikely don't you think?
[quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]broadsworddan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.[/p][/quote]There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.[/p][/quote]It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.[/p][/quote]People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.[/p][/quote]I agree the name has always been an issue for some. Personally I have a Newport RFC and a Dragon's ST and I see them as separate entities and enjoy flowing both. For some old school Newport supporters the regional system has always been a step too far. These days I personally think many have moved on and accept the indentity of the "Dragons". LJ is pushing the regional identity. The away strips don't have "Newport" on them. Only the "G" logo for Gwent Dragons. We would not see that sort of thing if he and the board thought the majority of supporters wanted the side to be called Newport imo. I think we will see more movement to a regional identity in time. Though some will never accept it, new fans will come with success and they don't have any of the old transitional baggage to Colour their opinions.[/p][/quote]Why does it matter what Lyn Jones has to say regarding the name of the outfit? Smacks of tail wagging the dog at best. His job is to fashion a squad to compete.[/p][/quote]In fairness ;Who's suggesting this is LJ decision?[/p][/quote]"LJ is pushing the regional identity".[/p][/quote]Lol, he's the mouthpiece without doubt yes. Does that mean he makes unilateral decisions without the backing of his employer? Seems unlikely don't you think? Euwan Usami
  • Score: 0

3:45pm Thu 4 Sep 14

DaiFrank says...

Euwan Usami wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
stevey wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
broadsworddan wrote:
JJ1980 wrote:
I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.
There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.
It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.
People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.
I agree the name has always been an issue for some. Personally I have a Newport RFC and a Dragon's ST and I see them as separate entities and enjoy flowing both. For some old school Newport supporters the regional system has always been a step too far. These days I personally think many have moved on and accept the indentity of the "Dragons". LJ is pushing the regional identity. The away strips don't have "Newport" on them. Only the "G" logo for Gwent Dragons. We would not see that sort of thing if he and the board thought the majority of supporters wanted the side to be called Newport imo. I think we will see more movement to a regional identity in time. Though some will never accept it, new fans will come with success and they don't have any of the old transitional baggage to Colour their opinions.
Why does it matter what Lyn Jones has to say regarding the name of the outfit? Smacks of tail wagging the dog at best.

His job is to fashion a squad to compete.
In fairness ;Who's suggesting this is LJ decision?
"LJ is pushing the regional identity".
Lol, he's the mouthpiece without doubt yes. Does that mean he makes unilateral decisions without the backing of his employer? Seems unlikely don't you think?
They, the board, and Lyn 'Gwent Cheer-leading' Jones, have no idea about identity but people like you just go along with it. No doubt if they were to go back to a stronger Newport identity you would toddle along to that or if they were to play in a pink polka dot kit and call themselves the 'Beavers' (I realise it doesn't make sense, but what's new lol). Sheep like to follow don't you think Baa!
[quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]broadsworddan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.[/p][/quote]There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.[/p][/quote]It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.[/p][/quote]People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.[/p][/quote]I agree the name has always been an issue for some. Personally I have a Newport RFC and a Dragon's ST and I see them as separate entities and enjoy flowing both. For some old school Newport supporters the regional system has always been a step too far. These days I personally think many have moved on and accept the indentity of the "Dragons". LJ is pushing the regional identity. The away strips don't have "Newport" on them. Only the "G" logo for Gwent Dragons. We would not see that sort of thing if he and the board thought the majority of supporters wanted the side to be called Newport imo. I think we will see more movement to a regional identity in time. Though some will never accept it, new fans will come with success and they don't have any of the old transitional baggage to Colour their opinions.[/p][/quote]Why does it matter what Lyn Jones has to say regarding the name of the outfit? Smacks of tail wagging the dog at best. His job is to fashion a squad to compete.[/p][/quote]In fairness ;Who's suggesting this is LJ decision?[/p][/quote]"LJ is pushing the regional identity".[/p][/quote]Lol, he's the mouthpiece without doubt yes. Does that mean he makes unilateral decisions without the backing of his employer? Seems unlikely don't you think?[/p][/quote]They, the board, and Lyn 'Gwent Cheer-leading' Jones, have no idea about identity but people like you just go along with it. No doubt if they were to go back to a stronger Newport identity you would toddle along to that or if they were to play in a pink polka dot kit and call themselves the 'Beavers' (I realise it doesn't make sense, but what's new lol). Sheep like to follow don't you think Baa! DaiFrank
  • Score: 0

3:53pm Thu 4 Sep 14

DaiFrank says...

Euwan Usami wrote:
DaiFrank wrote:
First of all well done to the NEWPORT gd's for this win against a strong Northampton team. Regarding the size of the crowd, it was poor and before any of you Gwentists (Gwent doesn't exist by the way) get on your high valley horses, the crowds are RP have been poor for years because of the conflicted identity. That said, this was a golden opportunity for the valley people to come out and offer their full support to watch an impressive Northampton side and you failed. What is more, the NEWPORT gd's played in their away kit to appease the Gwentists when they should have played in their home kit with NEWPORT written boldly on it. This was a home game because if it wasn't then why play there? Now the real litmus test is for the those few folk who made the effort, to go to RP in Newport (yes that's home) and watch the NEWPORT gd's play, not in their away kit to appease you lot, but in the kit which, yes has black and amber in it. The management at RP should have more guts and acknowledge that there is just far too much water under the bridge for this spat to go away and follow Cardiff's move. Black and Blue kit - Black and Amber kit, hoops and all.
Yawn. Seems Dai is still copying and pasting his posts from last season. They still have Newport on the shirt Dai and they look like winning a few more this season. Got some quality players too. Go on. Give it a go. You might like the Guinness Pro12 rugby.
I realise they have 'Newport' on the shirt. Not sure why you felt you had to remind me of that. But I'm pleased you have paid so much attention to my posts. You don't have them pinned on your wall do you?!
[quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DaiFrank[/bold] wrote: First of all well done to the NEWPORT gd's for this win against a strong Northampton team. Regarding the size of the crowd, it was poor and before any of you Gwentists (Gwent doesn't exist by the way) get on your high valley horses, the crowds are RP have been poor for years because of the conflicted identity. That said, this was a golden opportunity for the valley people to come out and offer their full support to watch an impressive Northampton side and you failed. What is more, the NEWPORT gd's played in their away kit to appease the Gwentists when they should have played in their home kit with NEWPORT written boldly on it. This was a home game because if it wasn't then why play there? Now the real litmus test is for the those few folk who made the effort, to go to RP in Newport (yes that's home) and watch the NEWPORT gd's play, not in their away kit to appease you lot, but in the kit which, yes has black and amber in it. The management at RP should have more guts and acknowledge that there is just far too much water under the bridge for this spat to go away and follow Cardiff's move. Black and Blue kit - Black and Amber kit, hoops and all.[/p][/quote]Yawn. Seems Dai is still copying and pasting his posts from last season. They still have Newport on the shirt Dai and they look like winning a few more this season. Got some quality players too. Go on. Give it a go. You might like the Guinness Pro12 rugby.[/p][/quote]I realise they have 'Newport' on the shirt. Not sure why you felt you had to remind me of that. But I'm pleased you have paid so much attention to my posts. You don't have them pinned on your wall do you?! DaiFrank
  • Score: 0

9:09pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Euwan Usami says...

DaiFrank wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
The People's Republic of Newp wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
stevey wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
broadsworddan wrote:
JJ1980 wrote:
I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.
There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.
It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.
People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.
I agree the name has always been an issue for some. Personally I have a Newport RFC and a Dragon's ST and I see them as separate entities and enjoy flowing both. For some old school Newport supporters the regional system has always been a step too far. These days I personally think many have moved on and accept the indentity of the "Dragons". LJ is pushing the regional identity. The away strips don't have "Newport" on them. Only the "G" logo for Gwent Dragons. We would not see that sort of thing if he and the board thought the majority of supporters wanted the side to be called Newport imo. I think we will see more movement to a regional identity in time. Though some will never accept it, new fans will come with success and they don't have any of the old transitional baggage to Colour their opinions.
Why does it matter what Lyn Jones has to say regarding the name of the outfit? Smacks of tail wagging the dog at best.

His job is to fashion a squad to compete.
In fairness ;Who's suggesting this is LJ decision?
"LJ is pushing the regional identity".
Lol, he's the mouthpiece without doubt yes. Does that mean he makes unilateral decisions without the backing of his employer? Seems unlikely don't you think?
They, the board, and Lyn 'Gwent Cheer-leading' Jones, have no idea about identity but people like you just go along with it. No doubt if they were to go back to a stronger Newport identity you would toddle along to that or if they were to play in a pink polka dot kit and call themselves the 'Beavers' (I realise it doesn't make sense, but what's new lol). Sheep like to follow don't you think Baa!
Yep. Spot on. They are my local side. Call them what you like. My mind is big enough to cope. It's all good.
[quote][p][bold]DaiFrank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The People's Republic of Newp[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]stevey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]broadsworddan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JJ1980[/bold] wrote: I also thought that the crowd was way more than 2700. More like 4000. I hardly heard any Newport accents and saw many many valleys fans there. It's my feeling that the turnout was 80% or more valleys supporters. By my sums that means that if we dropped Newport and Gwent from the name and just had Dragons, we could have a potential extra 3600 fans at Rodney Parade each week. I also stood at the bar and listened to a supporter from Bargoed talk to one from Ebbw Vale and say how impressed he was with the team and that the Dragons have "changed their attitude to the valleys" since GD is in charge.[/p][/quote]There we are then. Great! Although I wouldn't mention the dreaded name change topic; there'll be handbags flying all over this forum. A subject for another time; once we've developed a good team which people might want to support.[/p][/quote]It's been said before but people follow winning teams. If the Dragons start turning big teams over then people will come to watch them. I thought it was a good night and the result was exactly what was needed. The "I was there" stories that will be told to friends and families as a result will only build support now.[/p][/quote]People do support winning teams Euwan but they also need to feel an affinity to a team and the name thing has isolated so many for so many years, and if even now that cannot be accepted then there is no hope to enhance the region at all. Taking this game to EXP did more good than harm, so in my mind it should happen again, if it doesn't then that is tantamount to mismanagement.[/p][/quote]I agree the name has always been an issue for some. Personally I have a Newport RFC and a Dragon's ST and I see them as separate entities and enjoy flowing both. For some old school Newport supporters the regional system has always been a step too far. These days I personally think many have moved on and accept the indentity of the "Dragons". LJ is pushing the regional identity. The away strips don't have "Newport" on them. Only the "G" logo for Gwent Dragons. We would not see that sort of thing if he and the board thought the majority of supporters wanted the side to be called Newport imo. I think we will see more movement to a regional identity in time. Though some will never accept it, new fans will come with success and they don't have any of the old transitional baggage to Colour their opinions.[/p][/quote]Why does it matter what Lyn Jones has to say regarding the name of the outfit? Smacks of tail wagging the dog at best. His job is to fashion a squad to compete.[/p][/quote]In fairness ;Who's suggesting this is LJ decision?[/p][/quote]"LJ is pushing the regional identity".[/p][/quote]Lol, he's the mouthpiece without doubt yes. Does that mean he makes unilateral decisions without the backing of his employer? Seems unlikely don't you think?[/p][/quote]They, the board, and Lyn 'Gwent Cheer-leading' Jones, have no idea about identity but people like you just go along with it. No doubt if they were to go back to a stronger Newport identity you would toddle along to that or if they were to play in a pink polka dot kit and call themselves the 'Beavers' (I realise it doesn't make sense, but what's new lol). Sheep like to follow don't you think Baa![/p][/quote]Yep. Spot on. They are my local side. Call them what you like. My mind is big enough to cope. It's all good. Euwan Usami
  • Score: 0

9:20pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Euwan Usami says...

DaiFrank wrote:
Euwan Usami wrote:
DaiFrank wrote:
First of all well done to the NEWPORT gd's for this win against a strong Northampton team. Regarding the size of the crowd, it was poor and before any of you Gwentists (Gwent doesn't exist by the way) get on your high valley horses, the crowds are RP have been poor for years because of the conflicted identity. That said, this was a golden opportunity for the valley people to come out and offer their full support to watch an impressive Northampton side and you failed. What is more, the NEWPORT gd's played in their away kit to appease the Gwentists when they should have played in their home kit with NEWPORT written boldly on it. This was a home game because if it wasn't then why play there? Now the real litmus test is for the those few folk who made the effort, to go to RP in Newport (yes that's home) and watch the NEWPORT gd's play, not in their away kit to appease you lot, but in the kit which, yes has black and amber in it. The management at RP should have more guts and acknowledge that there is just far too much water under the bridge for this spat to go away and follow Cardiff's move. Black and Blue kit - Black and Amber kit, hoops and all.
Yawn. Seems Dai is still copying and pasting his posts from last season. They still have Newport on the shirt Dai and they look like winning a few more this season. Got some quality players too. Go on. Give it a go. You might like the Guinness Pro12 rugby.
I realise they have 'Newport' on the shirt. Not sure why you felt you had to remind me of that. But I'm pleased you have paid so much attention to my posts. You don't have them pinned on your wall do you?!
No need to keep your posts Dai. They are all the same aren't they. I remind you about the Newport Monika because you seem to forget it's there to keep you and the few remaining old guard happy. Every season there will be fewer and fewer of them but Dai will proudly hold the standard and copy /paste the same negative message like no one has heard it before. Sign of madness to repeat a process and expect a different outcome they say don't they?
[quote][p][bold]DaiFrank[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Euwan Usami[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DaiFrank[/bold] wrote: First of all well done to the NEWPORT gd's for this win against a strong Northampton team. Regarding the size of the crowd, it was poor and before any of you Gwentists (Gwent doesn't exist by the way) get on your high valley horses, the crowds are RP have been poor for years because of the conflicted identity. That said, this was a golden opportunity for the valley people to come out and offer their full support to watch an impressive Northampton side and you failed. What is more, the NEWPORT gd's played in their away kit to appease the Gwentists when they should have played in their home kit with NEWPORT written boldly on it. This was a home game because if it wasn't then why play there? Now the real litmus test is for the those few folk who made the effort, to go to RP in Newport (yes that's home) and watch the NEWPORT gd's play, not in their away kit to appease you lot, but in the kit which, yes has black and amber in it. The management at RP should have more guts and acknowledge that there is just far too much water under the bridge for this spat to go away and follow Cardiff's move. Black and Blue kit - Black and Amber kit, hoops and all.[/p][/quote]Yawn. Seems Dai is still copying and pasting his posts from last season. They still have Newport on the shirt Dai and they look like winning a few more this season. Got some quality players too. Go on. Give it a go. You might like the Guinness Pro12 rugby.[/p][/quote]I realise they have 'Newport' on the shirt. Not sure why you felt you had to remind me of that. But I'm pleased you have paid so much attention to my posts. You don't have them pinned on your wall do you?![/p][/quote]No need to keep your posts Dai. They are all the same aren't they. I remind you about the Newport Monika because you seem to forget it's there to keep you and the few remaining old guard happy. Every season there will be fewer and fewer of them but Dai will proudly hold the standard and copy /paste the same negative message like no one has heard it before. Sign of madness to repeat a process and expect a different outcome they say don't they? Euwan Usami
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