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LIVE: Police elections online debate
10:02am Friday 9th November 2012 in News
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- THE Argus is hosting a live Police election debate this afternoon
- We'll be asking the PCC candidates questions in our live online hustings from 2pm
- You can join in by leaving a comment below or using the hashtag #gwentpcc
3:55pm
@southwalesargus I agree with Chris - thx to Argus and everyone who questioned and/or watched. It was grt fun and (I hope) enlightening!
— @HamishSandison 09 November 2012
3:35pm
@southwalesargus No, I'm not a freemason and never have been.
— @HamishSandison 09 November 2012
3:34pm
@southwalesargus I am not. I do not belong to any secret society, Rotary Club, political party or union. #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
3:33pm
@southwalesargus No, my only memberships are Conservative Party (cheer or boo as you deem appropriate) and Chartered Institute of Marketing.
— @ndwebb 09 November 2012
3:29pm
@southwalesargus No.
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
3:29pm
Last question - Jayne Bryant asks 'Are you a member of the freemasons?'
— @southwalesargus 09 November 2012
3:26pm
@southwalesargus My deputy will be non political and will be subject to a confirmation hearing by the Police & Crime Panel. 2/2
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
3:26pm
@southwalesargus Yes. The commissioning aspects of the job are huge. 1/2
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
3:24pm
@southwalesargus I do not intend to appoint a deputy. I believe the role of P&CC is eminently achievable by a single person #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
3:24pm
@southwalesargus No. I’m committed to keeping the running costs of the PCC office down. I also aim to freeze PCC salary for the whole term.
— @ndwebb 09 November 2012
3:24pm
@southwalesargus 10/2...and if I am elected I will be a full time PCC and will appoint a Deputy...
— @HamishSandison 09 November 2012
3:23pm
@southwalesargus 10/1 Yes. Everyone agrees this is a huge job if it’s to be done properly. The legislation provides for a Deputy PCC...
— @HamishSandison 09 November 2012
3:19pm
Will you appoint a deputy commissioner? If so why, and who will they be? Stickywicket
— @southwalesargus 09 November 2012
3:18pm
@southwalesargus 3/3 an argument you cannot win is obviously not a good use of PCC's time #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
3:18pm
@southwalesargus 2/2 I already and will continue to protest about cuts. In a measured/evidential way to make the local case #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
3:18pm
@southwalesargus 1/2 No. I have no points scoring agenda. PCC is here for accountability of the local police to local people #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
3:17pm
@southwalesargus No, I will speak up & lobby on behalf of policing in Gwent, but I accept that this force needs to operate within its means
— @ndwebb 09 November 2012
3:17pm
@southwalesargus 9/2... or campaign against them. Whether elected or not, I don't intend to stay silent about Tory cuts...
— @HamishSandison 09 November 2012
3:17pm
@southwalesargus 9/1 The PCC will not exist in a vacuum. He will be part of national political landscape in which...
— @HamishSandison 09 November 2012
3:16pm
@southwalesargus I will be getting on with the job locally and representing the people of Gwent on the issues that matter to them. 2/2
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
3:16pm
@southwalesargus No, not a good use of PCC time. Counterproductive. 1/2 #gwentpcc
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
3:13pm
Will you use position to score points against UK Govt & protest against policing cuts? Would that be good use of PCC's time? Rachel England
— @southwalesargus 09 November 2012
3:12pm
@southwalesargus 1) Does it help cut crime? 2) Does it offer value for the tax-payer? 3) Can it increase career options for staff? (4/4)
— @ndwebb 09 November 2012
3:12pm
@southwalesargus It is sensible and pragmatic to look at all the options. The test for joint working will be: (3/4)
— @ndwebb 09 November 2012
3:12pm
@southwalesargus we can be innovative, sharing services with other forces, public bodies & some non-frontline business involvement (2/4)
— @ndwebb 09 November 2012
3:12pm
@southwalesargus The precept should not rise above the rate of inflation. As a force we need to live within our means. However... (1/4)
— @ndwebb 09 November 2012
3:11pm
RT @HamishSandison: @southwalesargus 8/4... until I've opened the books and can see for myself how much money is left for next year.
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
3:11pm
RT @HamishSandison: @southwalesargus 8/3... I will continue to fight for our public services, inc our police services. I won’t decide the precept...
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
3:11pm
3:11pm
RT @HamishSandison: @southwalesargus 8/1 The PCC will not exist in a vacuum. He will be part of national political landscape in which he can stay silent...
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
3:10pm
@southwalesargus I am non political and will not become embroiled in the party political point scoring of others. 3/3 #gwentpcc
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
3:10pm
@southwalesargus Police need to be realistic about the financial situation and accept they need to do more with less. 2/3 #gwentpcc
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
3:10pm
@southwalesargus I will fight for every penny of the police budget and will not raise the precept because of the cuts. 1/3 #gwentpcc
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
3:08pm
@southwalesargus 3/3 As a result of these political cuts there will be less police resources. Those left need to be more focused #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
3:08pm
@southwalesargus 2/3 I do not intend to raise the precept over the rate of inflation or wage-rise … whichever is the lower #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
3:08pm
@southwalesargus 1/3 to say you're fighting the cuts is a sound-bite. Cuts are coming. Its how to deal with them that is important #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
3:04pm
How do you intend to 'fight police cuts' if elected as PCC? The only recourse is to raise the precept, ie our council tax. Paul Harris
— @southwalesargus 09 November 2012
3:03pm
RT @ianjohnston4pcc: @southwalesargus My priority will be to build a professional relationship with the Chief and work together for the people of Gwent. 2/2
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
3:03pm
RT @ianjohnston4pcc: @southwalesargus PCC has power to hire and fire the Chief Constable. In reality, dismissal will be a rare occurrence. 1/2 #gwentpcc
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
3:01pm
RT @HamishSandison: @southwalesargus 7/2...to deliver our local policing priorities as set out in the agreed strategic plan and budget...
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
3:01pm
RT @HamishSandison: @southwalesargus 7/2...to deliver our local policing priorities as set out in the agreed strategic plan and budget...
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
3:01pm
RT @HamishSandison: @southwalesargus 7/1 I want to work with our Chief Constable in a professional partnership. But if she was unable or unwilling...
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
3:01pm
RT @chris4gwentpcc: @southwalesargus When the priorities of Gwent voters, set out in the policing plan, are not satisfactorily completed #gwentpcc
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:58pm
RT @ndwebb: @southwalesargus Only if there was a breach of the commitment from the Chief Constable to protect the people of Gwent.
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:55pm
Under what situation would you be willing to fire the chief constable? Emily Jones
— @southwalesargus 09 November 2012
2:54pm
RT @chris4gwentpcc: @ianjohnston4pcc @southwalesargus which definition of anti-social behaviour do you intend to use? #gwentpcc
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:54pm
RT @ianjohnston4pcc: @southwalesargus The Chief Constable retains operational independence but will be judged on delivery against that plan. 3/3 #gwentpcc
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:53pm
RT @ianjohnston4pcc: @southwalesargus As PCC, I will ensure that my Policing Plan reflects the priorities of the residents of Gwent. 2/3 #gwentpcc
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:53pm
RT @ianjohnston4pcc: @southwalesargus Anti Social Behaviour is top of every poll and the main topic raised with me on the doorstep. 1/3 #gwentpcc
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:53pm
RT @chris4gwentpcc: @southwalesargus 3/3 by supporting targeted Welsh anti-drug operations, like Tarian, to disrupt and imprison larger distributors #gwentpcc
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:53pm
RT @chris4gwentpcc: @southwalesargus 2/2 By focusing local policing to address community intelligence relating to local users and distributors #gwentpcc
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:53pm
RT @chris4gwentpcc: @southwalesargus 1/2 Drugs because of illegal use and surrounding criminality to fund its distribution then laundering of money #gwentpcc
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:52pm
RT @ndwebb: @southwalesargus and act as a deterrent to offenders as they know the Police know them. (4/4)
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:52pm
RT @ndwebb: @southwalesargus Recognisable and approachable local officers can reassure the community that reporting a crime is worthwhile (3/4)
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:52pm
RT @ndwebb: @southwalesargus When persistent these crimes hit the quality of life of law abiding citizens & have a negative impact on community(2/4)
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:52pm
RT @ndwebb: @southwalesargus No single crime effects every community to the same extent, but there are real problems with antisocial crime/speeding(1/4)
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:51pm
RT @HamishSandison: @southwalesargus 6/3 As PCC, I will work across education, health, local authorities, and the voluntary sector...
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:51pm
RT @HamishSandison: @southwalesargus 6/2... it contributes to every type of crime – esp domestic violence - and is the most difficult to tackle. As PCC...
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:51pm
RT @HamishSandison: @southwalesargus 6/1 Drug and alcohol misuse. It’s not the biggest in quantity, but it causes the most misery...
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:43pm
What's the biggest crime issue facing Gwent? How can you tackle it in the limited role you will have? Maria Powell
— @southwalesargus 09 November 2012
2:42pm
@southwalesargus as the only candidate with real, recent & relevant policing knowledge I know what to do and how to accomplish it #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
2:42pm
@southwalesargus Priorities: stopping repeat offenders early; supporting victims; credible budget; open with data; no one above the law.
— @ndwebb 09 November 2012
2:38pm
@southwalesargus Because I will be a Commissioner for the People not a Commissioner for the Police. And I will put Crime Prevention first.
— @HamishSandison 09 November 2012
2:38pm
@southwalesargus I am a local man who knows Gwent. I have relevant strategic experience and am passionate about policing and Gwent.
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
2:36pm
Sum up in 140 characters or less why I should vote for you. AlbertR1976
— @southwalesargus 09 November 2012
2:33pm
@southwalesargus I respect the experience of the officers but I will come to the challenges with fresh eyes. (2/2)
— @ndwebb 09 November 2012
2:33pm
@southwalesargus Being arms length from the police is helpful. I'll work with/share ideas with officers but retain a healthy distance (1/2)
— @ndwebb 09 November 2012
2:33pm
@chris4gwentpcc @southwalesargus What is relevent experience Chris? Our best Health Minister, Nye Bevan, knew nothing about heart surgery!
— @HamishSandison 09 November 2012
2:33pm
@southwalesargus 4/2 Voters will have to decide whether either of these former policeman can pass that test.
— @HamishSandison 09 November 2012
2:32pm
@southwalesargus 4/1 Good question. The PCC needs to be completely independent of the police. I pass that test.
— @HamishSandison 09 November 2012
2:32pm
@southwalesargus My last job involved challenging Chief Officers, Civil Servants & Politicians. I am not afraid to do so again. 4/4
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
2:32pm
@southwalesargus I am used to reviewing performance and was known for being a straight talking but fair leader. 3/4
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
2:32pm
@southwalesargus I have never worked with the Chief Constable and most of my former colleagues have retired. 2/4
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
2:31pm
@southwalesargus No problem remaining impartial. I am my own man and used to being publicly accountable for my decisions & actions. 1/4
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
2:31pm
@southwalesargus 3/3 Knowledge and experience of policing does not mean I cannot or will not be impartial. Just expertly informed #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
2:31pm
@southwalesargus 2/3 can committed political party members be impartial when they answer to their party? Who will come first? #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
2:31pm
@southwalesargus 1/3 my real, recent & relevant experience is evidential based. All decisions are based on the impartiality oath #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
2:26pm
How can the two ex-police officers be fully impartial in their decisions coming from a police background? Robert Nicholls
— @southwalesargus 09 November 2012
2:25pm
@southwalesargus 3/1 I have no concerns whatsoever about being “vetted” for the job.
— @HamishSandison 09 November 2012
2:25pm
@southwalesargus As Head of CID I was vetted to the highest level. Happy to go through the process again. 2/2
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
2:25pm
@southwalesargus PCC will NOT be vetted. Same rules as PM & Home Sec. Subject to Official Secrets Act as Crown Servant. 1/2
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
2:24pm
@southwalesargus 2/2 However for Gwent I think “vetting” should have included direct and relevant experience to accomplish role #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
2:24pm
@southwalesargus 1/2 None. There has been a vetting process to get here. My police roles mean my credentials will pass any vetting #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
2:24pm
@southwalesargus I’ve no concerns and it is important that vetting takes place so that the public have confidence in the Commissioner.
— @ndwebb 09 November 2012
2:17pm
The elected Police and Crime Commissioner will be “vetted” for the post. Do any of the candidates have concerns around this process? Paul
— @southwalesargus 09 November 2012
2:16pm
@southwalesargus Democratically elected government has already made the decision. My job will be to make it work.
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
2:16pm
@southwalesargus 2/2 this is democracy for you to exercise the power to decide control of your police and the direction it takes #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
2:16pm
@southwalesargus 1/2 without hesitation. This is democracy bringing control of the police back to every voter in Gwent #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
2:15pm
@southwalesargus PCC is accountable to the electorate, if you are unhappy with their performance / priorities you can kick them out (2/2)
— @ndwebb 09 November 2012
2:15pm
@southwalesargus Yes, this is about putting power in the hands of the people who use, rely upon & pay for the Police. (1/2)
— @ndwebb 09 November 2012
2:14pm
RT @HamishSandison: @southwalesargus 2/2... the elections are going to happen, so it’s right that they should be contested.
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:14pm
RT @HamishSandison: @southwalesargus 2/1 I opposed to the idea. The money could have been better spent on front line policing. But we live in a democracy...
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:08pm
If the candidate wasn't standing for election, would they support the introduction of a Police Crime Commissioner? Simon Deacy
— @southwalesargus 09 November 2012
2:06pm
@southwalesargus 4/4 I will be setting up the open contact for Gwent residents and officers to have access to their PCC #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
2:06pm
@southwalesargus 3/4 instigating the policing priorities of the people of Gwent and ensuring Gwent are committed to achieving #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
2:06pm
@southwalesargus 2/4 I will meeting the senior officers to set out my pledges, my strategy and the commitment I bring to the role #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
2:06pm
@southwalesargus 1/4 I am meeting the office staff for PCC and undertaking ‘housekeeping’ before the first day in the role #gwentpcc
— @chris4gwentpcc 09 November 2012
2:05pm
@southwalesargus and to thank them for the work they’ve done which gives us a great platform to build upon going forward. (2/2)
— @ndwebb 09 November 2012
2:05pm
@southwalesargus Speak to officers and staff to set out the broad vision, to reassure that changes will be carefully managed (1/2)
— @ndwebb 09 November 2012
2:05pm
@southwalesargus 1/1 B/c the PCC’s key role is to make sure our police deliver local priorities, first thing I’ll do is commission...
— @HamishSandison 09 November 2012
2:04pm
@southwalesargus My first job on Day 1 is a meeting with the Chief Constable. 1/1
— @ianjohnston4pcc 09 November 2012
2:04pm
RT @southwalesargus: First up from Allan Williams: What will be the first thing you do on the first day of your job?
— @ArgusKevinWard 09 November 2012
2:02pm
Good afternoon and welcome to @southwalesargus live PCC elections hustings. I'll be posting questions here and on Argus website #gwentpcc
— @southwalesargus 09 November 2012
10:04am
Follow our live Twitter @southwalesargus hustings with Gwent's four PCC election candidates this afternoon from 2pm. #gwentpcc
— @southwalesargus 09 November 2012
Comments(4)
Jayne Bryant
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2:28pm Fri 9 Nov 12
LisaB1979
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3:18pm Fri 9 Nov 12
Kevin Ward - Editor
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4:40pm Fri 9 Nov 12
They did all answer the question. Scroll to the top of the blog (from 3.29pm onwards).
rightsideup says...
2:02pm Fri 9 Nov 12
How will taxpayers benefit from this change?.Was the old system broken?.