Over 1,600 Torfaen fines for dog fouling and litter louts

South Wales Argus: FINES: XFOR was bought in by Torfaen council in January 2013 FINES: XFOR was bought in by Torfaen council in January 2013

THE private company employed by Torfaen council to enforce litter, dog fouling and smoking laws has issued more than 1,600 fines.

XFOR Local Authority Support was brought in by Torfaen council a year ago to clamp down on residents who drop litter or allow their dogs to foul in public.

In March the company went into administration and was subsequently bought by Kingdom Security Ltd.

Since the scheme started in January, the latest published figures show that between then and September, 1,645 fixed penalty notices have been served.

Of these, 31 were issued to dog owners for allowing their dog to foul and then failing to clean it up.

A further four fixed penalty notices were issued to dog owners for ignoring dog exclusion bans and taking their pets into school grounds, designated play areas and marked sports pitches.

The largest category under which fixed penalty notices were issued was for littering, with 1,256 people receiving fines.

The majority of these litter offences related to smoking such as dropping cigarette butts or packets.

This was closely followed by smoking in a public place, which saw 354 people receive fines.

By October, 1,065 fixed penalty notices had been paid and 67 had been withdrawn.

All instances of non-payment have been prosecuted.

The enforcement company was bought in to help deal with the hundreds of complaints that Torfaen council receive about litter, dog fouling and smoking.

Before the enforcement company was bought in, council officers used to undertake the enforcement work.

In 2010/11, Torfaen served 38 fixed penalty notices for litter and dog fouling, but it was felt that the level of enforcement had to be increased to meet public expectations.

As part of the pilot scheme, enforcement officers patrolled the streets and parks for 12 months. The safer communities scrutiny committee in October recommended that an enforcement company continues following the pilot 2013.

The enforcement officers don’t work on a commission basis, so they don’t get paid extra just for serving more notices and they follow the same policies and procedures as Torfaen officers.

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5:06pm Fri 3 Jan 14

DDDog1 says...

Why can't we have these in newport?
Dog poo and rubbish everywhere
Why can't we have these in newport? Dog poo and rubbish everywhere DDDog1
  • Score: 15

5:07pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Nivage says...

Don't get paid on commission my a**e. For every ticket issued the officer gets a £5 bonus. No need to worry though because they've only got 2 officers after laying off two a week before Christmas. Now who's going to move the bins about while the other 2 are fining people?
Don't get paid on commission my a**e. For every ticket issued the officer gets a £5 bonus. No need to worry though because they've only got 2 officers after laying off two a week before Christmas. Now who's going to move the bins about while the other 2 are fining people? Nivage
  • Score: -2

6:31pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Woodgnome says...

If your a responsible citizen you don't get fined.
Litter is a curse brought about by lazy people. A clean environment is everyone's right that the few should not destroy.
If your a responsible citizen you don't get fined. Litter is a curse brought about by lazy people. A clean environment is everyone's right that the few should not destroy. Woodgnome
  • Score: 23

6:43pm Fri 3 Jan 14

bugsy93 says...

The Council or any private company have no powers to issue fines or demanding your personal details, only the police or courts have those powers. What are the Council enforcement officers doing now that private powerless security people are doing this? Probably playing computer games in their offices or finishing work early to play golf at the taxpayers expense.
The Council or any private company have no powers to issue fines or demanding your personal details, only the police or courts have those powers. What are the Council enforcement officers doing now that private powerless security people are doing this? Probably playing computer games in their offices or finishing work early to play golf at the taxpayers expense. bugsy93
  • Score: 3

7:12pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Nivage wrote:
Don't get paid on commission my a**e. For every ticket issued the officer gets a £5 bonus. No need to worry though because they've only got 2 officers after laying off two a week before Christmas. Now who's going to move the bins about while the other 2 are fining people?
Frankly I couldn't care less if they get paid gold sovereigns for feeding the slobs to the sharks. Litter louts are scuzzers, end of.
[quote][p][bold]Nivage[/bold] wrote: Don't get paid on commission my a**e. For every ticket issued the officer gets a £5 bonus. No need to worry though because they've only got 2 officers after laying off two a week before Christmas. Now who's going to move the bins about while the other 2 are fining people?[/p][/quote]Frankly I couldn't care less if they get paid gold sovereigns for feeding the slobs to the sharks. Litter louts are scuzzers, end of. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 13

7:39pm Fri 3 Jan 14

bugsy93 says...

We all hate litter louts and irresponsible dog owners, but cowboy companies taken on by incompetent councils is not the answer.When an illegal gypsy camp is set up on public ground and cost the taxpayers thousands of pounds to clear up after them, the council appear not to be able to do anything about it.
We all hate litter louts and irresponsible dog owners, but cowboy companies taken on by incompetent councils is not the answer.When an illegal gypsy camp is set up on public ground and cost the taxpayers thousands of pounds to clear up after them, the council appear not to be able to do anything about it. bugsy93
  • Score: 6

8:20pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Llanmartinangel says...

bugsy93 wrote:
We all hate litter louts and irresponsible dog owners, but cowboy companies taken on by incompetent councils is not the answer.When an illegal gypsy camp is set up on public ground and cost the taxpayers thousands of pounds to clear up after them, the council appear not to be able to do anything about it.
Quite right. But that is a separate issue and all littering is bad whoever does it. Even if they catch the odd fag thrower, dog fouler or (the worst) fast food wrapper scuzzer, I'm all for them. In fact, I'm happy for the companies to keep the entire fine.
[quote][p][bold]bugsy93[/bold] wrote: We all hate litter louts and irresponsible dog owners, but cowboy companies taken on by incompetent councils is not the answer.When an illegal gypsy camp is set up on public ground and cost the taxpayers thousands of pounds to clear up after them, the council appear not to be able to do anything about it.[/p][/quote]Quite right. But that is a separate issue and all littering is bad whoever does it. Even if they catch the odd fag thrower, dog fouler or (the worst) fast food wrapper scuzzer, I'm all for them. In fact, I'm happy for the companies to keep the entire fine. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 9

9:24pm Fri 3 Jan 14

bugsy93 says...

These over zealous half wits posing as law enforcers have previously issued tickets to an old lady for dropping a piece of cotton from her glove and accused a lifelong anti smoking man for discarding a cigarette end in a Brynmawr car park....Not over-endowed with common sense or public spirit it seems, just the bonuses in the wage packet that matters.
These over zealous half wits posing as law enforcers have previously issued tickets to an old lady for dropping a piece of cotton from her glove and accused a lifelong anti smoking man for discarding a cigarette end in a Brynmawr car park....Not over-endowed with common sense or public spirit it seems, just the bonuses in the wage packet that matters. bugsy93
  • Score: 2

9:15am Sat 4 Jan 14

Woodgnome says...

bugsy93 wrote:
These over zealous half wits posing as law enforcers have previously issued tickets to an old lady for dropping a piece of cotton from her glove and accused a lifelong anti smoking man for discarding a cigarette end in a Brynmawr car park....Not over-endowed with common sense or public spirit it seems, just the bonuses in the wage packet that matters.
Where's your evidence? Sounds like complete urban myth to me. You give the impression tha you hate authority of any kind.
[quote][p][bold]bugsy93[/bold] wrote: These over zealous half wits posing as law enforcers have previously issued tickets to an old lady for dropping a piece of cotton from her glove and accused a lifelong anti smoking man for discarding a cigarette end in a Brynmawr car park....Not over-endowed with common sense or public spirit it seems, just the bonuses in the wage packet that matters.[/p][/quote]Where's your evidence? Sounds like complete urban myth to me. You give the impression tha you hate authority of any kind. Woodgnome
  • Score: 2

9:26am Sat 4 Jan 14

Woodgnome says...

bugsy93 wrote:
These over zealous half wits posing as law enforcers have previously issued tickets to an old lady for dropping a piece of cotton from her glove and accused a lifelong anti smoking man for discarding a cigarette end in a Brynmawr car park....Not over-endowed with common sense or public spirit it seems, just the bonuses in the wage packet that matters.
or are you a bitter ex copper?
[quote][p][bold]bugsy93[/bold] wrote: These over zealous half wits posing as law enforcers have previously issued tickets to an old lady for dropping a piece of cotton from her glove and accused a lifelong anti smoking man for discarding a cigarette end in a Brynmawr car park....Not over-endowed with common sense or public spirit it seems, just the bonuses in the wage packet that matters.[/p][/quote]or are you a bitter ex copper? Woodgnome
  • Score: 4

10:49am Sat 4 Jan 14

Valrep says...

Before employing this company Torfaen Council should have provided an adequate number of litter bins. I'm all for fines for people who litter but first you must allow the opportunity to discard rubbish.
Before employing this company Torfaen Council should have provided an adequate number of litter bins. I'm all for fines for people who litter but first you must allow the opportunity to discard rubbish. Valrep
  • Score: 0

5:35pm Sun 5 Jan 14

ukbigd says...

Woodgnome wrote:
bugsy93 wrote:
These over zealous half wits posing as law enforcers have previously issued tickets to an old lady for dropping a piece of cotton from her glove and accused a lifelong anti smoking man for discarding a cigarette end in a Brynmawr car park....Not over-endowed with common sense or public spirit it seems, just the bonuses in the wage packet that matters.
Where's your evidence? Sounds like complete urban myth to me. You give the impression tha you hate authority of any kind.
Why does he need to give evidence for one he is not on trial, Secondly if that's the way it goes were is your evidence to back your halve a***ed comments as in "You give the impression that you hate authority of any kind."
[quote][p][bold]Woodgnome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bugsy93[/bold] wrote: These over zealous half wits posing as law enforcers have previously issued tickets to an old lady for dropping a piece of cotton from her glove and accused a lifelong anti smoking man for discarding a cigarette end in a Brynmawr car park....Not over-endowed with common sense or public spirit it seems, just the bonuses in the wage packet that matters.[/p][/quote]Where's your evidence? Sounds like complete urban myth to me. You give the impression tha you hate authority of any kind.[/p][/quote]Why does he need to give evidence for one he is not on trial, Secondly if that's the way it goes were is your evidence to back your halve a***ed comments as in "You give the impression that you hate authority of any kind." ukbigd
  • Score: -2

10:47am Mon 6 Jan 14

Woodgnome says...

ukbigd wrote:
Woodgnome wrote:
bugsy93 wrote:
These over zealous half wits posing as law enforcers have previously issued tickets to an old lady for dropping a piece of cotton from her glove and accused a lifelong anti smoking man for discarding a cigarette end in a Brynmawr car park....Not over-endowed with common sense or public spirit it seems, just the bonuses in the wage packet that matters.
Where's your evidence? Sounds like complete urban myth to me. You give the impression tha you hate authority of any kind.
Why does he need to give evidence for one he is not on trial, Secondly if that's the way it goes were is your evidence to back your halve a***ed comments as in "You give the impression that you hate authority of any kind."
He made a frankly incredible statement. You said it yourself -GAVE IMPRESSION. Exactly what it says - it does not say YOU HATE AUTHORITY. If you are going to criticise than at least talk a modicum of sense and don't be so half a**sed yourself!
[quote][p][bold]ukbigd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woodgnome[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bugsy93[/bold] wrote: These over zealous half wits posing as law enforcers have previously issued tickets to an old lady for dropping a piece of cotton from her glove and accused a lifelong anti smoking man for discarding a cigarette end in a Brynmawr car park....Not over-endowed with common sense or public spirit it seems, just the bonuses in the wage packet that matters.[/p][/quote]Where's your evidence? Sounds like complete urban myth to me. You give the impression tha you hate authority of any kind.[/p][/quote]Why does he need to give evidence for one he is not on trial, Secondly if that's the way it goes were is your evidence to back your halve a***ed comments as in "You give the impression that you hate authority of any kind."[/p][/quote]He made a frankly incredible statement. You said it yourself -GAVE IMPRESSION. Exactly what it says - it does not say YOU HATE AUTHORITY. If you are going to criticise than at least talk a modicum of sense and don't be so half a**sed yourself! Woodgnome
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