Violent gang leader housed in Newport apologises for being "dumped" on city

South Wales Argus: 'SORRY': Joland Giwa, the violent gang leader housed in Newport has apologised for being "dumped" on city 'SORRY': Joland Giwa, the violent gang leader housed in Newport has apologised for being "dumped" on city

THE man described in the High Court as a "serious threat to the public" yesterday wrote to Newport West MP Paul Flynn to apologise for being "dumped" on the city.

And in an exclusive interview with the Argus, Joland Giwa denied being a violent gang leader - and claimed he “means no harm” to the city of Newport.

On Saturday the Argus revealed Mr Giwa, understood to be the leader of the Don’t Say Nothing gang in Croydon, had been relocated to York Place, Newport, after the Home Office failed to deport him. The news prompted Mr Flynn to write to the Home Secretary demanding answers on how local politicians had not been consulted on the move, and there was an outcry from local councillors who said they, too, had not been consulted.

In the letter to Mr Flynn, he wrote: "I really am sorry that you're outraged and angered by the decision....I am a changed man Sir. I know you won't believe me but I really am ashamed of my past and previous actions."

Speaking to the Argus yesterday, Mr Giwa said he had no say in where he was relocated.

Mr Giwa told the Argus: “I moved to Newport as a fresh start. I left the life I had behind. That past was six or seven years ago. I’m a man now. I’m 24 I’ve got two kids and a family in this country. I’m trying to make a change and be a different person.”

Mr Giwa is unable to see his children and 2007 was the last time he saw them.

Prior to his bail in December of last year, Mr Giwa had been in immigration detention for more than four years after completing a 27-month prison term for two robbery convictions. Sergeant Darin Birmingham who led a Metropolitan Police gangs unit called him a “serious threat to the public and other young people.”

Mr Giwa said: “I was 17 when I was convicted and those were the last crimes I was involved in.

“I never think I’m perfect but I think the way I’ve been targeted is worse than a terrorist. I have never killed anyone. I’m not a violent person. Nobody is scared of me. I’m not a harm to the public.”

Mr Giwa said he came to this country aged eight or nine with his twin brother due to ongoing wars in Sierra Leone. A lack of identity documents has made it difficult for the Home Office to deport him and Sierra Leone refuses to recognise him as a national.

“I don’t know my birth parents. These are the issues me and my brother have had to grow up with. It’s always been a hard life for us,” he said.

During their childhood the brothers moved around different foster homes in London.

“I’ve not got any family apart from the family I’ve got in this country.

“My foster parents have been my biggest support. I speak to them on the phone every day.”

Mr Giwa was 15 when he got involved with the DSN gang. He said: “It was more of a group of friends that would play football together and stuff.”

Asked about his crimes, he said: “It’s something I regret. When you are young you don’t know the consequences in life. You have to make mistakes and learn from them.”

Commenting on the Youtube video which was used against him in court and shows him proclaiming to be the gang general, he said: “It was about making music. We did think we were gangsters because that’s what you think with American hip hop.”

Mr Giwa denied being the gang’s leader and said: “No, not at all. They said that. I’ve not been involved since I’ve been in prison. I think I was just the easiest target.

“Since (being) in Newport I’ve not had any contact with any gangs.”

Mr Giwa said he had not chosen to live in Newport: “I hope people can give me a chance and get to know me.

“I’m a person that doesn’t hide my past because it’s only fair people know who you are.”

Mr Giwa’s case to stay in the UK is ongoing. He said: “I am trying my hardest to fight it. I’ve got nowhere to live if I go back to whatever country. The only language I can speak is English.”

Mr Giwa was unsure how long he would be living in Newport but said he would be happy to stay.

“This is a great area. It’s only fair I treat this place with respect and give back to Newport. I want a chance to show I’m not a gang member and don’t mean to be any harm to this area."

Speaking to the Argus yesterday, Mr Flynn said: “I believe the court would have heard all off the evidence. We must rely on the judgement of the court that this man is a danger.”

And in a reply to Mr Giwa, he said: "My prime duty is to my constituents who are understandably angry at the decision to re-locate you here."

A Gwent Police spokeswoman said: "Keeping the public of Gwent safe is our number one priority at all times and we do this by supporting and working in partnership with a number of other statutory and voluntary organisations.

"No society is risk-free and we cannot eliminate risk completely, but in the UK we have one of the most advanced systems for monitoring and managing dangerous offenders.”

Leader of Newport City Council, Bob Bright said: “Newport City Council was not consulted by the Home Office about where this individual should be placed.

“The property is not owned or controlled by the local authority, and we have made our concerns very clear about the suitability of this location.

“We will remain vigilant to the progress of this case, and liaise closely with police and key city agencies on its management.”

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7:52am Tue 21 Jan 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

Seems like a nice bloke. He could put up for our MP instead of Paul Flynn:)
Seems like a nice bloke. He could put up for our MP instead of Paul Flynn:) Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: -5

8:11am Tue 21 Jan 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

Glad to see the Argus printing the other side fo the story after rousing the rabble against him.
Glad to see the Argus printing the other side fo the story after rousing the rabble against him. GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: 64

8:16am Tue 21 Jan 14

Dolieboy says...

Mr Giwa’s case to stay in the UK is ongoing. He said: “I am trying my hardest to fight it. I’ve got nowhere to live if I go back to whatever country. The only language I can speak is English.”

Plenty of countries speak English - what's the problem with sending him to one of those ?

Nice photoshoot, stick on a D & G top and claim to be a family man. Is Max Clifford his publicist ?
Mr Giwa’s case to stay in the UK is ongoing. He said: “I am trying my hardest to fight it. I’ve got nowhere to live if I go back to whatever country. The only language I can speak is English.” Plenty of countries speak English - what's the problem with sending him to one of those ? Nice photoshoot, stick on a D & G top and claim to be a family man. Is Max Clifford his publicist ? Dolieboy
  • Score: -16

8:19am Tue 21 Jan 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

And as if on cue, the rabble appears.
And as if on cue, the rabble appears. GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: 12

8:25am Tue 21 Jan 14

gathin says...

It appears he's been in town quite a while.
How long has he actually been living here?
It appears he's been in town quite a while. How long has he actually been living here? gathin
  • Score: 12

9:51am Tue 21 Jan 14

Jimport says...

I don't go along with the 'Newport is crime-ridden' brigade, but I do think that day-to-day criminality and gang activity in Newport should be the focus of Paul Flynn and other elected representatives. Headline-grabbing cases like this mean nothing. If Giwa gets into trouble here, then he can be dealt with by the law. Until then there's a few home-grown 'gangsters' in Newport who should be dealt with first.
I don't go along with the 'Newport is crime-ridden' brigade, but I do think that day-to-day criminality and gang activity in Newport should be the focus of Paul Flynn and other elected representatives. Headline-grabbing cases like this mean nothing. If Giwa gets into trouble here, then he can be dealt with by the law. Until then there's a few home-grown 'gangsters' in Newport who should be dealt with first. Jimport
  • Score: 36

9:52am Tue 21 Jan 14

gathin says...

....you can find those at the civic centre.....
....you can find those at the civic centre..... gathin
  • Score: 7

9:54am Tue 21 Jan 14

GardenVarietyMushroom says...

gathin wrote:
....you can find those at the civic centre.....
And the SWCC
[quote][p][bold]gathin[/bold] wrote: ....you can find those at the civic centre.....[/p][/quote]And the SWCC GardenVarietyMushroom
  • Score: -2

10:02am Tue 21 Jan 14

DavidMclean says...

Probably a good move to do this interview and present his contrition. Without it we would have been left only with the previous details and a mystery which would have reassured no one.

This chap's next move is to prove he's good to his word. Perhaps by getting involved with some positive community work. There are plenty of agencies and groups around in need of help.

It won't keep the rabble happy though, even if he did prove to be bad turned good. Regardless they will have their fun with their stakes and flaming torches.
Probably a good move to do this interview and present his contrition. Without it we would have been left only with the previous details and a mystery which would have reassured no one. This chap's next move is to prove he's good to his word. Perhaps by getting involved with some positive community work. There are plenty of agencies and groups around in need of help. It won't keep the rabble happy though, even if he did prove to be bad turned good. Regardless they will have their fun with their stakes and flaming torches. DavidMclean
  • Score: 32

10:10am Tue 21 Jan 14

Votefornoneoftheabove says...

Looking at today's report in the Argus it appears clear that Mr Giwa is trying to start again and he should be given the benefit of doubt.

He has had an up to date picture taken so everyone now knows what he looks like, he has written a letter in reply to the one Paul Flynn has sent to the Home Office, the local police know where is address is, he has to sign in twice weekly in Cardiff. He has given an account of what he did previously and say that he was just a kid at the time. I can relate to this as my younger brother too was a troubled teenager ending up in youth offenders institutes and Cardiff prison. He fell in with the wrong crowd but eventually in his early 20's grew up and turned a new leaf and is now the perfect father and law abiding citizen.

If he were to fall out of line given all the above then that is for the courts to deal with not the public.

I find Councillor Bright's comments slightly annoying though, “The property is not owned or controlled by the local authority, and we have made our concerns very clear about the suitability of this location."

Is this because Mr Giwa is on his side of town living very close to where he lives? Would it have been the same if it were his constituency in Ringland? I doubt it.... there again Councillor Bright has helped steam roll the travellers sites there so perhaps he can help the Home Office in future and recommend re-housing offenders from outside of Newport.

Good luck to Mr Giwa for the future there will be a lot of people watching you so the choices you make will be scrutinised. If you fail then you only have yourself to blame.
Looking at today's report in the Argus it appears clear that Mr Giwa is trying to start again and he should be given the benefit of doubt. He has had an up to date picture taken so everyone now knows what he looks like, he has written a letter in reply to the one Paul Flynn has sent to the Home Office, the local police know where is address is, he has to sign in twice weekly in Cardiff. He has given an account of what he did previously and say that he was just a kid at the time. I can relate to this as my younger brother too was a troubled teenager ending up in youth offenders institutes and Cardiff prison. He fell in with the wrong crowd but eventually in his early 20's grew up and turned a new leaf and is now the perfect father and law abiding citizen. If he were to fall out of line given all the above then that is for the courts to deal with not the public. I find Councillor Bright's comments slightly annoying though, “The property is not owned or controlled by the local authority, and we have made our concerns very clear about the suitability of this location." Is this because Mr Giwa is on his side of town living very close to where he lives? Would it have been the same if it were his constituency in Ringland? I doubt it.... there again Councillor Bright has helped steam roll the travellers sites there so perhaps he can help the Home Office in future and recommend re-housing offenders from outside of Newport. Good luck to Mr Giwa for the future there will be a lot of people watching you so the choices you make will be scrutinised. If you fail then you only have yourself to blame. Votefornoneoftheabove
  • Score: 88

10:13am Tue 21 Jan 14

bodlondon says...

Wil they sell torches & pitchforks in the Friars Walk development?
Wil they sell torches & pitchforks in the Friars Walk development? bodlondon
  • Score: -7

10:26am Tue 21 Jan 14

whatintheworld says...

excellent journalism Argus. I would have expected this story to be in the national press
excellent journalism Argus. I would have expected this story to be in the national press whatintheworld
  • Score: 27

10:50am Tue 21 Jan 14

On the inside says...

Dolieboy wrote:
Mr Giwa’s case to stay in the UK is ongoing. He said: “I am trying my hardest to fight it. I’ve got nowhere to live if I go back to whatever country. The only language I can speak is English.”

Plenty of countries speak English - what's the problem with sending him to one of those ?

Nice photoshoot, stick on a D & G top and claim to be a family man. Is Max Clifford his publicist ?
He is in an English speaking country. I don't agree with you that every English speaking person in the world should be sent here. Or is that not what you meant? Did you really mean you want to send all the black ones in the UK somewhere else?
[quote][p][bold]Dolieboy[/bold] wrote: Mr Giwa’s case to stay in the UK is ongoing. He said: “I am trying my hardest to fight it. I’ve got nowhere to live if I go back to whatever country. The only language I can speak is English.” Plenty of countries speak English - what's the problem with sending him to one of those ? Nice photoshoot, stick on a D & G top and claim to be a family man. Is Max Clifford his publicist ?[/p][/quote]He is in an English speaking country. I don't agree with you that every English speaking person in the world should be sent here. Or is that not what you meant? Did you really mean you want to send all the black ones in the UK somewhere else? On the inside
  • Score: -6

10:57am Tue 21 Jan 14

mikewelsh says...

1... Is he is illegally here?... 2.... Wheres his twin brother now?.. 3..Could he live with his brother.?...4..How much has he cost and still costing the tax payer? ..5...Does this case open the gates for all the war torn 9/10 year olds around the world..?... 6.. Is the extra publicity making his defence case against being deported easier?... 7..Anyone?
1... Is he is illegally here?... 2.... Wheres his twin brother now?.. 3..Could he live with his brother.?...4..How much has he cost and still costing the tax payer? ..5...Does this case open the gates for all the war torn 9/10 year olds around the world..?... 6.. Is the extra publicity making his defence case against being deported easier?... 7..Anyone? mikewelsh
  • Score: -3

11:26am Tue 21 Jan 14

hotairballoon says...

so Emily Yeh who also has a story on the website today was deported when she helped the community with voluntry work etc. and then a thug is allowed to stay, makes no sence at all
so Emily Yeh who also has a story on the website today was deported when she helped the community with voluntry work etc. and then a thug is allowed to stay, makes no sence at all hotairballoon
  • Score: 7

11:33am Tue 21 Jan 14

christina 1 says...

Really exellent article, everyone should be given a chance to change for the better or else what sort of society do you end up with. I think he deserves credit for honestly facing his critics.
Really exellent article, everyone should be given a chance to change for the better or else what sort of society do you end up with. I think he deserves credit for honestly facing his critics. christina 1
  • Score: 13

11:57am Tue 21 Jan 14

jiffygeorge says...

Critics of the Argus are unfair. As a responsible local newspaper it always seeks to give both sides of every story. Often one side does not want its story told. As for Mr Giwa, he deserves the chance to honour his words with his actions. Newport people I know will wish him well in his attempt to build a new life.
Critics of the Argus are unfair. As a responsible local newspaper it always seeks to give both sides of every story. Often one side does not want its story told. As for Mr Giwa, he deserves the chance to honour his words with his actions. Newport people I know will wish him well in his attempt to build a new life. jiffygeorge
  • Score: 15

12:23pm Tue 21 Jan 14

33daverave says...

He comes across better than Bob Bright.
He comes across better than Bob Bright. 33daverave
  • Score: 3

12:50pm Tue 21 Jan 14

p stani says...

DONT SAY NOTHING, that's a laugh, he cant stop talking.
DONT SAY NOTHING, that's a laugh, he cant stop talking. p stani
  • Score: -1

12:58pm Tue 21 Jan 14

cheeky212 says...

give the man a chance i say and dont believe everything u read
give the man a chance i say and dont believe everything u read cheeky212
  • Score: 4

1:26pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

cheeky212 wrote:
give the man a chance i say and dont believe everything u read
Well said. At the risk of Kevin censoring this opinion too, as a general point you can't always believe everything you read in the papers - it's always important to read between the lines, too. The issues discussed in the Leveson enquiry bear this out. Mainstream journalism and the spin that papers put on the news should never be beyond criticism, particularly by those of us which it is aimed at - the readers.
[quote][p][bold]cheeky212[/bold] wrote: give the man a chance i say and dont believe everything u read[/p][/quote]Well said. At the risk of Kevin censoring this opinion too, as a general point you can't always believe everything you read in the papers - it's always important to read between the lines, too. The issues discussed in the Leveson enquiry bear this out. Mainstream journalism and the spin that papers put on the news should never be beyond criticism, particularly by those of us which it is aimed at - the readers. Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 6

2:01pm Tue 21 Jan 14

ncfcr says...

Good luck to him. Hope his time here helps him turn his life around permanently.
Good luck to him. Hope his time here helps him turn his life around permanently. ncfcr
  • Score: 4

2:05pm Tue 21 Jan 14

ollie72 says...

Probably best to reserve judgement here - I personally don't want London's cast-off problems, but it is possible that someone would like to make a fresh start, and could be a functioning memeber of society after stupid mistakes as a teenager.

Of course, the whole "entering the country with no travel documents" is annoying, but i don't know how to enforce someone's deportation to a country that won't take him! I do kind of agree with a suggestion made previously, that any costs to the state that are generated by this man should be taken from the aid budget currently given to Sierra Leone - they would then have a reason to welcome him back with open arms!

We could even insist that he not be harmed by the auhorities on return (a condition of continuing aid) - giving him a more secure life than most people in Sierra Leone...
Probably best to reserve judgement here - I personally don't want London's cast-off problems, but it is possible that someone would like to make a fresh start, and could be a functioning memeber of society after stupid mistakes as a teenager. Of course, the whole "entering the country with no travel documents" is annoying, but i don't know how to enforce someone's deportation to a country that won't take him! I do kind of agree with a suggestion made previously, that any costs to the state that are generated by this man should be taken from the aid budget currently given to Sierra Leone - they would then have a reason to welcome him back with open arms! We could even insist that he not be harmed by the auhorities on return (a condition of continuing aid) - giving him a more secure life than most people in Sierra Leone... ollie72
  • Score: 9

2:11pm Tue 21 Jan 14

grumpyandopinionated says...

Is it coincidence that the photo is taken outside either christchurch or st wollos I don't know where but it's clearly an image designed to look peaceful and calm. Wouldn't have half the impact wearing a hoodie and stood outside the police station or court.

Although everyone deserves to be heard and I tip my cap if he has acutually written a letter to paul flynn. I think we all jump to conclusions, but we can only go by the facts that we read as nobody knows this man personally.
Is it coincidence that the photo is taken outside either christchurch or st wollos I don't know where but it's clearly an image designed to look peaceful and calm. Wouldn't have half the impact wearing a hoodie and stood outside the police station or court. Although everyone deserves to be heard and I tip my cap if he has acutually written a letter to paul flynn. I think we all jump to conclusions, but we can only go by the facts that we read as nobody knows this man personally. grumpyandopinionated
  • Score: 5

2:25pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Jimport says...

p stani wrote:
DONT SAY NOTHING, that's a laugh, he cant stop talking.
So he isn't saying nothing.
[quote][p][bold]p stani[/bold] wrote: DONT SAY NOTHING, that's a laugh, he cant stop talking.[/p][/quote]So he isn't saying nothing. Jimport
  • Score: 7

2:53pm Tue 21 Jan 14

pillboy says...

I agree he should be given a chance but let that chance be somewhere else like Cheltenham or Bath for example.
I agree he should be given a chance but let that chance be somewhere else like Cheltenham or Bath for example. pillboy
  • Score: 4

3:19pm Tue 21 Jan 14

arjwain says...

as with most the only regret is getting caught .
no one made him join a gang no one made him do anything he did not willingly do himself .
hes obviously made peoples lives a misery.
his decision not to be a productive member of society was his own .
but would rather take the easy money making option. not breaking a sweat for it unless he was being chased.
there must be a paper trail how he got here who bought him here .at that age there must be some documents . but not even his own country wants him . oh well Newport got him now . lock your doors ..( again )
as with most the only regret is getting caught . no one made him join a gang no one made him do anything he did not willingly do himself . hes obviously made peoples lives a misery. his decision not to be a productive member of society was his own . but would rather take the easy money making option. not breaking a sweat for it unless he was being chased. there must be a paper trail how he got here who bought him here .at that age there must be some documents . but not even his own country wants him . oh well Newport got him now . lock your doors ..( again ) arjwain
  • Score: 0

3:25pm Tue 21 Jan 14

siameselady says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Seems like a nice bloke. He could put up for our MP instead of Paul Flynn:)
I would vote for him rather than Paul Flynn!
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Seems like a nice bloke. He could put up for our MP instead of Paul Flynn:)[/p][/quote]I would vote for him rather than Paul Flynn! siameselady
  • Score: -4

4:11pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Jonnytrouble says...

Please answer this one...
WHY O WHY OF ALL THE CITIES/Towns/village
s IN THE UK,WAS HE SENT TO NEWPORT THEN ?????????
Do we have a good reputation of helping criminals/gangsters to become good citizens once again then ???
All the do-gooders will help him im sure ????
Another point. I wonder who leaked to SWA about him being here in the first place which started this scare ? AND how many more are around or how many more are on there way here like him ?????
Please answer this one... WHY O WHY OF ALL THE CITIES/Towns/village s IN THE UK,WAS HE SENT TO NEWPORT THEN ????????? Do we have a good reputation of helping criminals/gangsters to become good citizens once again then ??? All the do-gooders will help him im sure ???? Another point. I wonder who leaked to SWA about him being here in the first place which started this scare ? AND how many more are around or how many more are on there way here like him ????? Jonnytrouble
  • Score: 1

4:20pm Tue 21 Jan 14

bobbajob says...

The heart of the issue in my opinion is where exactly is this chap from? He speaks English and claims he is now an honest person so lets ask him and then we can ascertain whether he has a legitimate right to live in the United Kingdom or not. If he doesn't, then he should be returned to his country of origin. If he does, then I would welcome him as my neighbour. (provided he kept his conifers in check)
The heart of the issue in my opinion is where exactly is this chap from? He speaks English and claims he is now an honest person so lets ask him and then we can ascertain whether he has a legitimate right to live in the United Kingdom or not. If he doesn't, then he should be returned to his country of origin. If he does, then I would welcome him as my neighbour. (provided he kept his conifers in check) bobbajob
  • Score: 4

4:28pm Tue 21 Jan 14

bobbajob says...

Actually, I have just watched "Dexters" youtube video and have changed my mind. he seems a tad rambunctious...
Actually, I have just watched "Dexters" youtube video and have changed my mind. he seems a tad rambunctious... bobbajob
  • Score: -6

4:32pm Tue 21 Jan 14

disgruntled taxpayer says...

Before we make him our M.P. or maybe Police commisioner for gwent , let us not forget
" Prior to his bail in December of last year, Mr Giwa had been in immigration detention for more than four years after completing a 27-month prison term for two robbery convictions. Sergeant Darin Birmingham who led a Metropolitan Police gangs unit called him a “serious threat to the public and other young people.”"

a SERIOUS THREAT to the PUBLIC and other YOUNG PEOPLE ,
ENOUGH SAID !!!
Before we make him our M.P. or maybe Police commisioner for gwent , let us not forget " Prior to his bail in December of last year, Mr Giwa had been in immigration detention for more than four years after completing a 27-month prison term for two robbery convictions. Sergeant Darin Birmingham who led a Metropolitan Police gangs unit called him a “serious threat to the public and other young people.”" a SERIOUS THREAT to the PUBLIC and other YOUNG PEOPLE , ENOUGH SAID !!! disgruntled taxpayer
  • Score: -15

4:34pm Tue 21 Jan 14

disgruntled taxpayer says...

Votefornoneoftheabov
e
wrote:
Looking at today's report in the Argus it appears clear that Mr Giwa is trying to start again and he should be given the benefit of doubt.

He has had an up to date picture taken so everyone now knows what he looks like, he has written a letter in reply to the one Paul Flynn has sent to the Home Office, the local police know where is address is, he has to sign in twice weekly in Cardiff. He has given an account of what he did previously and say that he was just a kid at the time. I can relate to this as my younger brother too was a troubled teenager ending up in youth offenders institutes and Cardiff prison. He fell in with the wrong crowd but eventually in his early 20's grew up and turned a new leaf and is now the perfect father and law abiding citizen.

If he were to fall out of line given all the above then that is for the courts to deal with not the public.

I find Councillor Bright's comments slightly annoying though, “The property is not owned or controlled by the local authority, and we have made our concerns very clear about the suitability of this location."

Is this because Mr Giwa is on his side of town living very close to where he lives? Would it have been the same if it were his constituency in Ringland? I doubt it.... there again Councillor Bright has helped steam roll the travellers sites there so perhaps he can help the Home Office in future and recommend re-housing offenders from outside of Newport.

Good luck to Mr Giwa for the future there will be a lot of people watching you so the choices you make will be scrutinised. If you fail then you only have yourself to blame.
Prior to his bail in December of last year, Mr Giwa had been in immigration detention for more than four years after completing a 27-month prison term for two robbery convictions. Sergeant Darin Birmingham who led a Metropolitan Police gangs unit called him a “serious threat to the public and other young people.”

A SERIOUS THREAT to the PUBLIC and to YOUNG PEOPLE

ENOUGH SAID !!!
[quote][p][bold]Votefornoneoftheabov e[/bold] wrote: Looking at today's report in the Argus it appears clear that Mr Giwa is trying to start again and he should be given the benefit of doubt. He has had an up to date picture taken so everyone now knows what he looks like, he has written a letter in reply to the one Paul Flynn has sent to the Home Office, the local police know where is address is, he has to sign in twice weekly in Cardiff. He has given an account of what he did previously and say that he was just a kid at the time. I can relate to this as my younger brother too was a troubled teenager ending up in youth offenders institutes and Cardiff prison. He fell in with the wrong crowd but eventually in his early 20's grew up and turned a new leaf and is now the perfect father and law abiding citizen. If he were to fall out of line given all the above then that is for the courts to deal with not the public. I find Councillor Bright's comments slightly annoying though, “The property is not owned or controlled by the local authority, and we have made our concerns very clear about the suitability of this location." Is this because Mr Giwa is on his side of town living very close to where he lives? Would it have been the same if it were his constituency in Ringland? I doubt it.... there again Councillor Bright has helped steam roll the travellers sites there so perhaps he can help the Home Office in future and recommend re-housing offenders from outside of Newport. Good luck to Mr Giwa for the future there will be a lot of people watching you so the choices you make will be scrutinised. If you fail then you only have yourself to blame.[/p][/quote]Prior to his bail in December of last year, Mr Giwa had been in immigration detention for more than four years after completing a 27-month prison term for two robbery convictions. Sergeant Darin Birmingham who led a Metropolitan Police gangs unit called him a “serious threat to the public and other young people.” A SERIOUS THREAT to the PUBLIC and to YOUNG PEOPLE ENOUGH SAID !!! disgruntled taxpayer
  • Score: -16

6:42pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Votefornoneoftheabove says...

disgruntled taxpayer wrote:
Votefornoneoftheabov

e
wrote:
Looking at today's report in the Argus it appears clear that Mr Giwa is trying to start again and he should be given the benefit of doubt.

He has had an up to date picture taken so everyone now knows what he looks like, he has written a letter in reply to the one Paul Flynn has sent to the Home Office, the local police know where is address is, he has to sign in twice weekly in Cardiff. He has given an account of what he did previously and say that he was just a kid at the time. I can relate to this as my younger brother too was a troubled teenager ending up in youth offenders institutes and Cardiff prison. He fell in with the wrong crowd but eventually in his early 20's grew up and turned a new leaf and is now the perfect father and law abiding citizen.

If he were to fall out of line given all the above then that is for the courts to deal with not the public.

I find Councillor Bright's comments slightly annoying though, “The property is not owned or controlled by the local authority, and we have made our concerns very clear about the suitability of this location."

Is this because Mr Giwa is on his side of town living very close to where he lives? Would it have been the same if it were his constituency in Ringland? I doubt it.... there again Councillor Bright has helped steam roll the travellers sites there so perhaps he can help the Home Office in future and recommend re-housing offenders from outside of Newport.

Good luck to Mr Giwa for the future there will be a lot of people watching you so the choices you make will be scrutinised. If you fail then you only have yourself to blame.
Prior to his bail in December of last year, Mr Giwa had been in immigration detention for more than four years after completing a 27-month prison term for two robbery convictions. Sergeant Darin Birmingham who led a Metropolitan Police gangs unit called him a “serious threat to the public and other young people.”

A SERIOUS THREAT to the PUBLIC and to YOUNG PEOPLE

ENOUGH SAID !!!
My my you are disgruntled aren't you.

Sorry I will re do that in your favourite font.

MY MY YOU ARE DISGRUNTLED AREN'T YOU!!!

In all seriousness as I mentioned in my post Mr or Mrs Disgruntled, my brother went through a similar thing at the same age as Mr Giwa has done.The injuries he inflicted on two young lads of his own age back in the 80's my family were told the injuries were some of the worse they had seen.

He paid the price by being locked away after continually re-offending and eventually in his early 20's turned his life around. Just because a policeman has quoted what he has reference Mr Giwa does not mean that he cannot turn his life around... or does it?
[quote][p][bold]disgruntled taxpayer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Votefornoneoftheabov e[/bold] wrote: Looking at today's report in the Argus it appears clear that Mr Giwa is trying to start again and he should be given the benefit of doubt. He has had an up to date picture taken so everyone now knows what he looks like, he has written a letter in reply to the one Paul Flynn has sent to the Home Office, the local police know where is address is, he has to sign in twice weekly in Cardiff. He has given an account of what he did previously and say that he was just a kid at the time. I can relate to this as my younger brother too was a troubled teenager ending up in youth offenders institutes and Cardiff prison. He fell in with the wrong crowd but eventually in his early 20's grew up and turned a new leaf and is now the perfect father and law abiding citizen. If he were to fall out of line given all the above then that is for the courts to deal with not the public. I find Councillor Bright's comments slightly annoying though, “The property is not owned or controlled by the local authority, and we have made our concerns very clear about the suitability of this location." Is this because Mr Giwa is on his side of town living very close to where he lives? Would it have been the same if it were his constituency in Ringland? I doubt it.... there again Councillor Bright has helped steam roll the travellers sites there so perhaps he can help the Home Office in future and recommend re-housing offenders from outside of Newport. Good luck to Mr Giwa for the future there will be a lot of people watching you so the choices you make will be scrutinised. If you fail then you only have yourself to blame.[/p][/quote]Prior to his bail in December of last year, Mr Giwa had been in immigration detention for more than four years after completing a 27-month prison term for two robbery convictions. Sergeant Darin Birmingham who led a Metropolitan Police gangs unit called him a “serious threat to the public and other young people.” A SERIOUS THREAT to the PUBLIC and to YOUNG PEOPLE ENOUGH SAID !!![/p][/quote]My my you are disgruntled aren't you. Sorry I will re do that in your favourite font. MY MY YOU ARE DISGRUNTLED AREN'T YOU!!! In all seriousness as I mentioned in my post Mr or Mrs Disgruntled, my brother went through a similar thing at the same age as Mr Giwa has done.The injuries he inflicted on two young lads of his own age back in the 80's my family were told the injuries were some of the worse they had seen. He paid the price by being locked away after continually re-offending and eventually in his early 20's turned his life around. Just because a policeman has quoted what he has reference Mr Giwa does not mean that he cannot turn his life around... or does it? Votefornoneoftheabove
  • Score: 14

10:29pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Stevenboy says...

No one could accuse the commentators on here of being fickle eh? So if we deport this guy to Nigeria or wherever we can let them run the risk of his reoffending or rehabilitation. A no lose result for us. I'm quite sure his solicitor (public funded) or advisor is happy with his 'new leaf' speech though. I'm less convinced.
No one could accuse the commentators on here of being fickle eh? So if we deport this guy to Nigeria or wherever we can let them run the risk of his reoffending or rehabilitation. A no lose result for us. I'm quite sure his solicitor (public funded) or advisor is happy with his 'new leaf' speech though. I'm less convinced. Stevenboy
  • Score: 9

10:51pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Jonnytrouble says...

So many do-gooders want to give him a 2 nd chance then, well keep him on YOUR side of the river ! and when more are sent here they can stay on the West side of Newport and join him ( Leopard never changes his spots ) ...END OF !
So many do-gooders want to give him a 2 nd chance then, well keep him on YOUR side of the river ! and when more are sent here they can stay on the West side of Newport and join him ( Leopard never changes his spots ) ...END OF ! Jonnytrouble
  • Score: 0

10:53pm Tue 21 Jan 14

mikewelsh says...

I'd like to know, was this picture taken and his interview before or after Confession?
I'd like to know, was this picture taken and his interview before or after Confession? mikewelsh
  • Score: 1

11:30am Wed 22 Jan 14

Templar05 says...

No apologies needed , Sir . I hope the 5 star hotel, is to your liking . If you need anything from the taxpayers , please feel to ask . Nothing like a polite criminal ...there's hope for the world, yet LMAO .
No apologies needed , Sir . I hope the 5 star hotel, is to your liking . If you need anything from the taxpayers , please feel to ask . Nothing like a polite criminal ...there's hope for the world, yet LMAO . Templar05
  • Score: 1

12:38pm Wed 22 Jan 14

fieldsof fields says...

grumpyandopinionated wrote:
Is it coincidence that the photo is taken outside either christchurch or st wollos I don't know where but it's clearly an image designed to look peaceful and calm. Wouldn't have half the impact wearing a hoodie and stood outside the police station or court.

Although everyone deserves to be heard and I tip my cap if he has acutually written a letter to paul flynn. I think we all jump to conclusions, but we can only go by the facts that we read as nobody knows this man personally.
He lives near St Woolos, so I guess it's St Woolos. Why would it not be St Woolos, and what is odd about it?
[quote][p][bold]grumpyandopinionated[/bold] wrote: Is it coincidence that the photo is taken outside either christchurch or st wollos I don't know where but it's clearly an image designed to look peaceful and calm. Wouldn't have half the impact wearing a hoodie and stood outside the police station or court. Although everyone deserves to be heard and I tip my cap if he has acutually written a letter to paul flynn. I think we all jump to conclusions, but we can only go by the facts that we read as nobody knows this man personally.[/p][/quote]He lives near St Woolos, so I guess it's St Woolos. Why would it not be St Woolos, and what is odd about it? fieldsof fields
  • Score: -2

5:20am Sat 25 Jan 14

bravoscar says...

As seven old police stations re-open in Gwent!
As seven old police stations re-open in Gwent! bravoscar
  • Score: 2

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