Don't devolve policing powers, says Islwyn MP Chris Evans

Don't devolve policing powers, says Islwyn MP Chris Evans

Don't devolve policing powers, says Islwyn MP Chris Evans

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A GWENT Labour MP has said youth justice, policing and speed limits shouldn’t be devolved to the control of the National Assembly for Wales.

Chris Evans, the MP for Islwyn, has dismissed several of the significant proposals of the Silk Commission, adding that the 60-member chamber did not need more AMs.

He told the Argus: “We’re too busy spending our time on constitutional nightmares.”

“If you were sitting there now and you were ill, or you had a child going through the educational system, you would be asking serious questions why the Assembly and other commentators are so obsessed by constitutional matters, when really there needs to be a focus on the things the Assembly does at the moment.”

Mr Evans said a situation has developed where the devolution settlement in Wales is constantly being looked at.

There hasn’t been a chance to see how legislative powers granted after a referendum in 2011 were panning out before commissioning other reports for further powers, the MP argued.

Earlier this month the Silk Commission said youth justice, policing and speed limits should be devolved to the control of the National Assembly for Wales.

But Mr Evans, who was elected in 2010, said the issues surrounding criminal justice and policing were “very very complicated”.

“I do not agree with the reasons for devolving policing or youth justice at the moment.

“There are so many cross border issues that need to be looked at in some way,” he told the Argus.

“What are we looking at? Different sentences for different crimes in Wales? Those are the real questions that need to be answered.”

Mr Evans asked what would happen if, for argument sake, the English maximum speed limit was set to 80 but the Welsh remained at 70, but a motorist was caught at 80 by a speed camera on the Welsh side of the Severn Crossings.

He said: “Does that mean that what you have done is legal in England but illegal in Wales?”

He also didn’t agree with another Silk proposal which said that the Assembly should have more AMs: “I think the number they have at the moment is fine.”

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9:44am Fri 14 Mar 14

lowandhardandinthecorner says...

What is this idiot talking about? In his example of speed limits , if the law in Wales was 70mph, of course the motorist would be speeding - that's not difficult.
In general ,what country wants less powers over it's future? Have you no ambition,man?
What is this idiot talking about? In his example of speed limits , if the law in Wales was 70mph, of course the motorist would be speeding - that's not difficult. In general ,what country wants less powers over it's future? Have you no ambition,man? lowandhardandinthecorner
  • Score: -5

9:53am Fri 14 Mar 14

blackandamber says...

I think he's talking sense. Now go the whole hog and scrap that waste of the tax payers money in Cardiff Bay.
I think he's talking sense. Now go the whole hog and scrap that waste of the tax payers money in Cardiff Bay. blackandamber
  • Score: 5

10:48am Fri 14 Mar 14

whatintheworld says...

lowandhardandintheco
rner
wrote:
What is this idiot talking about? In his example of speed limits , if the law in Wales was 70mph, of course the motorist would be speeding - that's not difficult. In general ,what country wants less powers over it's future? Have you no ambition,man?
i agree. he should be arguing that the administrative burden would be too great; not that we might get confused looking at speed limit signs.

the idea of devolving justice seems to me a step too far.
[quote][p][bold]lowandhardandintheco rner[/bold] wrote: What is this idiot talking about? In his example of speed limits , if the law in Wales was 70mph, of course the motorist would be speeding - that's not difficult. In general ,what country wants less powers over it's future? Have you no ambition,man?[/p][/quote]i agree. he should be arguing that the administrative burden would be too great; not that we might get confused looking at speed limit signs. the idea of devolving justice seems to me a step too far. whatintheworld
  • Score: 5

11:22am Fri 14 Mar 14

Realist UK says...

The waste of space called the Welsh Assembly should concentrate on educating our children and addressing the NHS shambles they've created before moving onto other issues. Deluded, dangerous & power-hungry AM's who once they walk the corridor's of the Bay lose any sense of accountability.
The waste of space called the Welsh Assembly should concentrate on educating our children and addressing the NHS shambles they've created before moving onto other issues. Deluded, dangerous & power-hungry AM's who once they walk the corridor's of the Bay lose any sense of accountability. Realist UK
  • Score: 5

12:12pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Given their record of fourteen years why would you give them more to do? Or, given that devolution here has been tested to destruction how much worse does it need to get? And how much more money do they want to burn?
Given their record of fourteen years why would you give them more to do? Or, given that devolution here has been tested to destruction how much worse does it need to get? And how much more money do they want to burn? Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 4

12:22pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Bobevans says...

There is already considerable powers over policing in Wales and almost all day to day activities are already controlled at a local level and the police are answerable to local elected people in Wales. It would just be used fore WAG empire building

Quite what powers for the police do they claim to need ?
There is already considerable powers over policing in Wales and almost all day to day activities are already controlled at a local level and the police are answerable to local elected people in Wales. It would just be used fore WAG empire building Quite what powers for the police do they claim to need ? Bobevans
  • Score: 4

2:57pm Fri 14 Mar 14

lowandhardandinthecorner says...

Reading these comments, I find it lamentable that so few on here seem to have the confidence to take the future of our country into our own hands. If that's the mentality of the electorate in general then perhaps we deserve to be treated like a 2nd class protectorate and ruled from Westminster or should I say South East England.
Reading these comments, I find it lamentable that so few on here seem to have the confidence to take the future of our country into our own hands. If that's the mentality of the electorate in general then perhaps we deserve to be treated like a 2nd class protectorate and ruled from Westminster or should I say South East England. lowandhardandinthecorner
  • Score: -4

4:03pm Fri 14 Mar 14

Llanmartinangel says...

lowandhardandintheco
rner
wrote:
Reading these comments, I find it lamentable that so few on here seem to have the confidence to take the future of our country into our own hands. If that's the mentality of the electorate in general then perhaps we deserve to be treated like a 2nd class protectorate and ruled from Westminster or should I say South East England.
Do you have an answer to the £10b hole in Wales' finances then? Or is it the Scottish devo-max option adapted for Wales you're after where Westminster sends a huge cheque raised from taxpayers elsewhere but who have no say in how it's spent?
[quote][p][bold]lowandhardandintheco rner[/bold] wrote: Reading these comments, I find it lamentable that so few on here seem to have the confidence to take the future of our country into our own hands. If that's the mentality of the electorate in general then perhaps we deserve to be treated like a 2nd class protectorate and ruled from Westminster or should I say South East England.[/p][/quote]Do you have an answer to the £10b hole in Wales' finances then? Or is it the Scottish devo-max option adapted for Wales you're after where Westminster sends a huge cheque raised from taxpayers elsewhere but who have no say in how it's spent? Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 1

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