Abergavenny GBH case thief admits stealing fuel again

South Wales Argus: SELF-DEFENCE: Abergavenny businessman Andrew Woodhouse SELF-DEFENCE: Abergavenny businessman Andrew Woodhouse

A THIEF who stole diesel from businessman Andrew Woodhouse’s yard was back in court again yesterday for a similar offence.

Timothy Cross pleaded guilty at Newport Magistrates’ Court to stealing a quantity of diesel.

Last June Cross, 31, of Tenby Lane, Thornwell, Chepstow, and Kevin Green, 52, of Charles Edward Close, Abergavenny, pleaded guilty at Cwmbran Magistrates’ Court to stealing £50 of diesel fuel in two jerry cans belonging to Andrew Woodhouse.

Cross also admitted possessing 0.3 grams of class B drug cannabis on the same day.

When business owner Andrew Woodhouse, 43, caught him and Green in the act he acted in self-defence and left Green with two broken legs and a broken forearm — Mr Woodhouse was later cleared of causing grievous bodily harm in just 20 minutes by a jury at Cardiff Crown Court.

Yesterday the court heard how on Sunday, March 23, Cross again stole a quantity of diesel, said to be around 50 litres, on Dewstow Road, Caldicot.

Ruth Hale, prosecuting, said that Cross had seen the diesel earlier that day and decided to go back to steal it but was prevented by Gwent Police officers who located the two drums of diesel and cautioned Cross.

The victim of the theft and the value of the diesel is not known.

Terry Vaux, for Cross, said that he should be given credit for his early guilty plea and that he was “simply tempted” to steal the diesel.

In mitigation Mr Vaux said: “He is existing on Job Seeker’s Allowance. He saw the diesel and fell to temptation.”

He added that Cross had been remanded in custody overnight which could count towards punishment.

District Judge Jim Davies said he would give full credit to Cross’ early guilty plea.

“You do have previous convictions for dishonesty and the last such conviction was in June last year which was dealt with by way of a fine,” he said.

“The aggravated aspect of this is that this was a premeditated decision to go back and steal it.”

Judge Davies fined Cross £120, £85 in costs and a £20 victim surcharge, of which £5 a fortnight will be deducted from his Job Seeker’s Allowance.

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1:14pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Granny Annie says...

Didn't he learn last time? What a PRAT !!!!!
Didn't he learn last time? What a PRAT !!!!! Granny Annie
  • Score: 44

1:55pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Abertillery29 says...

He is existing on Job Seekers Allowance but can get about by stealing other peoples diesel. How many times does he get away with such thefts?
He is existing on Job Seekers Allowance but can get about by stealing other peoples diesel. How many times does he get away with such thefts? Abertillery29
  • Score: 41

1:57pm Tue 25 Mar 14

-trigg- says...

What a pathetic sentence. the total fine of £225 will be taken from his JSA at a rate of £5 per fortnight. At that rate it will take almost 2 years to pay off. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if he was still paying off previous fines at the same rate meaning this fine won't even start being deducted until those earlier ones are paid off.

In effect, that makes this a total non-punishment, particularly as the previous conviction has shown that fines aren't a deterrent in the case of this individual.
What a pathetic sentence. the total fine of £225 will be taken from his JSA at a rate of £5 per fortnight. At that rate it will take almost 2 years to pay off. In fact it wouldn't surprise me if he was still paying off previous fines at the same rate meaning this fine won't even start being deducted until those earlier ones are paid off. In effect, that makes this a total non-punishment, particularly as the previous conviction has shown that fines aren't a deterrent in the case of this individual. -trigg-
  • Score: 43

2:29pm Tue 25 Mar 14

NakedDancer says...

Totally pointless sentence. The waster will never learn from small fines if a serious beating didn't wise him up. He'll just steal more to make up for the fine. A custodial sentence may have an impact (ok i know that costs the taxpayer) or at least some hard labour community service.
Totally pointless sentence. The waster will never learn from small fines if a serious beating didn't wise him up. He'll just steal more to make up for the fine. A custodial sentence may have an impact (ok i know that costs the taxpayer) or at least some hard labour community service. NakedDancer
  • Score: 35

2:36pm Tue 25 Mar 14

robrat41 says...

Put this sorry excuse for a human being away for a while. wont teach him anything, he is too thick for that. But at least we wont have to read about the moron.
Put this sorry excuse for a human being away for a while. wont teach him anything, he is too thick for that. But at least we wont have to read about the moron. robrat41
  • Score: 34

3:15pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Why is he getting Job Seekers Allowance? He isn't seeking a job and with his record is unemployable anyway. I love the mitigation plea: 'he gave into temptation' lol. Doh! Err yes, or he wouldn't have done it. His brief earned his legal aid fee eh?
Why is he getting Job Seekers Allowance? He isn't seeking a job and with his record is unemployable anyway. I love the mitigation plea: 'he gave into temptation' lol. Doh! Err yes, or he wouldn't have done it. His brief earned his legal aid fee eh? Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 33

4:53pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Amanda D007 says...

What a pathetic excuse for a man! Absolutely digusting.....The only way to stop people like that from repeating the same old offences is to chop their theiving hands off!!
What a pathetic excuse for a man! Absolutely digusting.....The only way to stop people like that from repeating the same old offences is to chop their theiving hands off!! Amanda D007
  • Score: 24

5:23pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Raymond Luxury-Yacht says...

You won't stop him doing it. People become repeat offenders because they can get away with it. I'm not just talking about small time fuel thieves, but the big guys; the banking fraudsters, and tax dodgers....all criminals in my book. No one is effectively stopping them, so they will continue to re-offend.
You won't stop him doing it. People become repeat offenders because they can get away with it. I'm not just talking about small time fuel thieves, but the big guys; the banking fraudsters, and tax dodgers....all criminals in my book. No one is effectively stopping them, so they will continue to re-offend. Raymond Luxury-Yacht
  • Score: 18

6:09pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Stevenboy says...

Seems anyone can get JSA, even thieves. Should have locked him up.
Seems anyone can get JSA, even thieves. Should have locked him up. Stevenboy
  • Score: 20

6:10pm Tue 25 Mar 14

blackandamber says...

The magistrates should be sacked today.
The magistrates should be sacked today. blackandamber
  • Score: 24

6:25pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Mr Bump. says...

I don't see why prison has to be expensive. Solitary confinement and bread and water for 6 months, they will not offend again.
I don't see why prison has to be expensive. Solitary confinement and bread and water for 6 months, they will not offend again. Mr Bump.
  • Score: 23

7:15pm Tue 25 Mar 14

bugsy93 says...

Is it really worth working for a living and paying taxes when scum like this can claim job seekers allowance and deprive honest people of their property ?
It just proves that the judicial system is way out of touch when **** footing around with criminals that will never learn right from wrong by dishing out these farcical sentences to these dregs in our society.
It's not surprising when victims of crime decide to take the law into own hands and cure problems that the magistrates are failing so pathetically to deal with .
Is it really worth working for a living and paying taxes when scum like this can claim job seekers allowance and deprive honest people of their property ? It just proves that the judicial system is way out of touch when **** footing around with criminals that will never learn right from wrong by dishing out these farcical sentences to these dregs in our society. It's not surprising when victims of crime decide to take the law into own hands and cure problems that the magistrates are failing so pathetically to deal with . bugsy93
  • Score: 24

7:57pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Monmouthshire Merlin says...

blackandamber wrote:
The magistrates should be sacked today.
Magistrates did not sentence Mr Cross. It was a district judge!
[quote][p][bold]blackandamber[/bold] wrote: The magistrates should be sacked today.[/p][/quote]Magistrates did not sentence Mr Cross. It was a district judge! Monmouthshire Merlin
  • Score: 10

10:21pm Tue 25 Mar 14

DAZ4160 says...

should he **** be locked up, the value of diesel does not warrant for us tax payers to pay £1500 - £2000 + per week to keep the **** locked up. we already paying his god **** jsa & his fine by the looks. scum like this don't change. they should be given thousands of hours of community service. clearly got too much time on his hands while claiming jsa so get the scum out doing unpaid work.
should he **** be locked up, the value of diesel does not warrant for us tax payers to pay £1500 - £2000 + per week to keep the **** locked up. we already paying his god **** jsa & his fine by the looks. scum like this don't change. they should be given thousands of hours of community service. clearly got too much time on his hands while claiming jsa so get the scum out doing unpaid work. DAZ4160
  • Score: 11

10:27pm Tue 25 Mar 14

DAZ4160 says...

robrat41 wrote:
Put this sorry excuse for a human being away for a while. wont teach him anything, he is too thick for that. But at least we wont have to read about the moron.
I don't think we should have to pay upto or in excess of £2000 pw to keep the **** locked up. thousands of hours community service these **** need as they clearly got too much time on their hands while scrounging of us tax payers. in this instance no diesel was actually stolen but recovered / prevented so he should have had community service & a lot of it.
[quote][p][bold]robrat41[/bold] wrote: Put this sorry excuse for a human being away for a while. wont teach him anything, he is too thick for that. But at least we wont have to read about the moron.[/p][/quote]I don't think we should have to pay upto or in excess of £2000 pw to keep the **** locked up. thousands of hours community service these **** need as they clearly got too much time on their hands while scrounging of us tax payers. in this instance no diesel was actually stolen but recovered / prevented so he should have had community service & a lot of it. DAZ4160
  • Score: 4

11:17pm Tue 25 Mar 14

Paul F. McCourt says...

I remember reading about the first case he was involved in. What a ABSOLUTE "Far Quit!" Perhaps he wanted to get his legs broken like his just as stupid mate. He will never learn. At his age, he should know better. What sort of role model is he to kids in the Community?
IDIOT!!!
Cwucify him, Centuwian! And bweak his legs like his mate's.
Sorry about that! But, that would've been his penalty back in those days.
I remember reading about the first case he was involved in. What a ABSOLUTE "Far Quit!" Perhaps he wanted to get his legs broken like his just as stupid mate. He will never learn. At his age, he should know better. What sort of role model is he to kids in the Community? IDIOT!!! Cwucify him, Centuwian! And bweak his legs like his mate's. Sorry about that! But, that would've been his penalty back in those days. Paul F. McCourt
  • Score: 12

8:29am Wed 26 Mar 14

Dai Rear says...

Property crime is of no consequence as our betters tell us daily, though respect for property is in fact the foundation of civilisation. What does matter to our betters? Well, breaching a Restraining Order by sending a text is worth a massive investment in prison time. Listening to Hugh Grant making another assignation with a dusky maiden or Lord Prezza's call to Domino's for another 20 pizzas, they're absolutely critical. So I think you folk need to get it in perspective. So far as the State is concerned your property isn't worth a t&ss.
Property crime is of no consequence as our betters tell us daily, though respect for property is in fact the foundation of civilisation. What does matter to our betters? Well, breaching a Restraining Order by sending a text is worth a massive investment in prison time. Listening to Hugh Grant making another assignation with a dusky maiden or Lord Prezza's call to Domino's for another 20 pizzas, they're absolutely critical. So I think you folk need to get it in perspective. So far as the State is concerned your property isn't worth a t&ss. Dai Rear
  • Score: 6

9:35am Wed 26 Mar 14

-trigg- says...

Assuming the stuff in question was red deisel, he would probably have received a stiffer sentence if he'd been caught driving with it in the tank.

In that case the crime would have been depriving the establishment of tax revenues which gets taken far more seriously than stealing from an ordinary person.
Assuming the stuff in question was red deisel, he would probably have received a stiffer sentence if he'd been caught driving with it in the tank. In that case the crime would have been depriving the establishment of tax revenues which gets taken far more seriously than stealing from an ordinary person. -trigg-
  • Score: 12

10:23am Wed 26 Mar 14

Llanmartinangel says...

-trigg- wrote:
Assuming the stuff in question was red deisel, he would probably have received a stiffer sentence if he'd been caught driving with it in the tank.

In that case the crime would have been depriving the establishment of tax revenues which gets taken far more seriously than stealing from an ordinary person.
My my. Ain't THAT the truth.
[quote][p][bold]-trigg-[/bold] wrote: Assuming the stuff in question was red deisel, he would probably have received a stiffer sentence if he'd been caught driving with it in the tank. In that case the crime would have been depriving the establishment of tax revenues which gets taken far more seriously than stealing from an ordinary person.[/p][/quote]My my. Ain't THAT the truth. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 11

5:43pm Wed 26 Mar 14

regaturn says...

Mr Woodhouse should have been allowed to have a few minutes with this piece of ****
Mr Woodhouse should have been allowed to have a few minutes with this piece of **** regaturn
  • Score: 6

12:36pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

Granny Annie wrote:
Didn't he learn last time? What a PRAT !!!!!
Trouble is, we are probably funding his defence.
[quote][p][bold]Granny Annie[/bold] wrote: Didn't he learn last time? What a PRAT !!!!![/p][/quote]Trouble is, we are probably funding his defence. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 3

4:57pm Mon 31 Mar 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Cymru Am Beth wrote:
Granny Annie wrote:
Didn't he learn last time? What a PRAT !!!!!
Trouble is, we are probably funding his defence.
No 'probably' about it. We did. And I've no doubt his housing costs, council tax, healthcare, you name it. We're paying the loser's JSA too. Great innit.
[quote][p][bold]Cymru Am Beth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Granny Annie[/bold] wrote: Didn't he learn last time? What a PRAT !!!!![/p][/quote]Trouble is, we are probably funding his defence.[/p][/quote]No 'probably' about it. We did. And I've no doubt his housing costs, council tax, healthcare, you name it. We're paying the loser's JSA too. Great innit. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 2

6:13pm Wed 2 Apr 14

JanJenkins says...

maybe we aught to break his legs this time and give the area a rest from this prig.
maybe we aught to break his legs this time and give the area a rest from this prig. JanJenkins
  • Score: 0

6:19pm Wed 2 Apr 14

JanJenkins says...

He has too much time on his hands, 12 months clearing rubbish out of Brecon and Mon. canals could keep him busy. Up to his chest in cold canal water.should keep him focused.
He has too much time on his hands, 12 months clearing rubbish out of Brecon and Mon. canals could keep him busy. Up to his chest in cold canal water.should keep him focused. JanJenkins
  • Score: 0

2:53pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Good Job No Kids says...

Hopefully his next beating will result in death. This would be to the benefit of everyone everywhere except Mr Cross.
Hopefully his next beating will result in death. This would be to the benefit of everyone everywhere except Mr Cross. Good Job No Kids
  • Score: 0

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