Leader calls for Newport Welsh school costings

Leader of Newport County Council Bob Bright visited Duffryn High School following a recent positive Estyn inspection report.  Pictured left is Head Teacher Jon Wilson with Cllr Bob Bright. (6081502)

Leader of Newport County Council Bob Bright visited Duffryn High School following a recent positive Estyn inspection report. Pictured left is Head Teacher Jon Wilson with Cllr Bob Bright. (6081502)

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THE leader of Newport council has called for more detail on the cost of a possible new Welsh-medium school in the grounds of Duffryn High.

Plans for a Newport solution to help solve a looming crisis in secondary places are at an early stage, with further investigations to take place.

Yesterday cabinet members of the Labour-run Newport council ordered more work from officers on the proposal, which if it went ahead would see Duffryn High School remodelled, refurbished and extended so a new Welsh-medium school can start there.

At a cabinet meeting council leader Bob Bright asked James Harris, chief education officer, how quickly the cabinet would be able to see the “financial profile” of the project.

Mr Harris said he couldn’t give a precise timescale: “I would anticipate certainly within the next two months.”

Cllr Bright pressed further and asked what stage the council was at with costings, and Mr Harris said there wasn’t a “tight specification”.

The leader said he couldn’t see the finances coming out in two months without a detailed specification.

“It’s a good news story. We do need to have some firmed up ideas of what it’s going to cost,” Cllr Bright said.

“Let’s not start hares running if at the end of the day we can’t find the finance.”

Cabinet agreed for the further development of the proposal to be included in a strategic outline case to be submitted to the Welsh Government.

The plans would need to be weighed up alongside other proposals for the future of Welsh-medium secondary education in Gwent.

Currently children from Welsh-language schools outside Torfaen face being unable to attend the Welsh-medium secondary school, Ysgol Gyfun Gwynllyw in Pontypool, in 2016 when it will be over-subscribed.

The school currently serves pupils from Blaenau Gwent, Monmouthshire, Torfaen and Newport.

Duffryn High School had been part of a programme to rebuild three secondary schools in Newport. While the Bettws and Hartridge projects were completed, the economic crisis appears to have scuppered the Duffryn rebuild.

Jon Wilson, head teacher of Duffryn High, said he was pleased at the proposals: “The school is very realistic as to the economic crisis at the moment. We are very happy to work with Newport City Council to benefit from a refurbishment and extension.”

He said the school was originally part of the three school rebuild plan: “The downturn meant that although the commitment was there, the money wasn’t there to rebuild it.”

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12:29pm Tue 13 May 14

Llanmartinangel says...

They want to know the price before they buy something? Good lord. How innovative. All hope is not lost.
They want to know the price before they buy something? Good lord. How innovative. All hope is not lost. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 7

4:39pm Tue 13 May 14

Mwy Eira says...

The headline for this is misleading. Bob Bright is asking for costing of the refurb as a whole, the Duffryn High and Welsh High School. It will also cost money to refurb the site for the English Medium provision as well. I agree though that they should know how much it is going to cost. No ones has work done on their home without checking with the builder the price would they.
The headline for this is misleading. Bob Bright is asking for costing of the refurb as a whole, the Duffryn High and Welsh High School. It will also cost money to refurb the site for the English Medium provision as well. I agree though that they should know how much it is going to cost. No ones has work done on their home without checking with the builder the price would they. Mwy Eira
  • Score: 8

5:18pm Tue 13 May 14

grumpyandopinionated says...

I know that this is off topic, but on similar lines, it seems that the council are penny pinching and trying to save money here and there. I know exactly where they can save a fortune. SACK all council workers, and get those that have worked in the private industry who know what pulling your weight and team work means. Just get rid of the lot and start again. I've recently started working at the council. I think that atleast 2 hours of the day outside of break times do we sit around and do nothing. There's this thing they do called "Step Back"!! Which is just that, step back and wait for someone else to do it before you do. They must work harder at looking busy than they actually would do getting on with the job. There are those that do work hard and get on with it, but atleast 2 thirds are bone idle. Everything that they do is worked out in advance to work in as much sitting around time as possible. In the private sector you'd be expected to complete the quicker jods after you've finished the larger jobs, but not the council, they do a big job then go back to the yard and sit around for anything upto 45 mins and then do all the small jobs that they could have done in this time in one day, finish them then sit around again. Its frustrating to be amoungst it. The problem is that the managers etc all know this goes on and allow it so long as it's not flaunted infront of them because they'd be questioned why it's allowed. They know the score, they did it when they were in the lower ranks. It might not sound alot in terms of man power but just working on 100 men spending 2 hours of doing nothing then this works out to about £338,000 a year in lost time. Then you've got the effficency side of it, you could possibly cut a few vans and machines from the fleet as more work is being done. I happen to know that there are 2 £40k machines between 2 gangs, working together and having just 1 operator full time would mean that you'd only need 1 machine and still get the same work done. I would say that if everyworker actually did there bit and worked effecintly the council could easily save more than a million a year. I personally think that they need to have a shake up and not have control of the money. Someone who has an idea of how to budget and be effecinet should be incharge of it. As the council clearly just throw money around without a care in the world and it's us that then have to pay more in council tax. I'll be glad when the seasonal contract comes to an end and I can get out of it.
I know that this is off topic, but on similar lines, it seems that the council are penny pinching and trying to save money here and there. I know exactly where they can save a fortune. SACK all council workers, and get those that have worked in the private industry who know what pulling your weight and team work means. Just get rid of the lot and start again. I've recently started working at the council. I think that atleast 2 hours of the day outside of break times do we sit around and do nothing. There's this thing they do called "Step Back"!! Which is just that, step back and wait for someone else to do it before you do. They must work harder at looking busy than they actually would do getting on with the job. There are those that do work hard and get on with it, but atleast 2 thirds are bone idle. Everything that they do is worked out in advance to work in as much sitting around time as possible. In the private sector you'd be expected to complete the quicker jods after you've finished the larger jobs, but not the council, they do a big job then go back to the yard and sit around for anything upto 45 mins and then do all the small jobs that they could have done in this time in one day, finish them then sit around again. Its frustrating to be amoungst it. The problem is that the managers etc all know this goes on and allow it so long as it's not flaunted infront of them because they'd be questioned why it's allowed. They know the score, they did it when they were in the lower ranks. It might not sound alot in terms of man power but just working on 100 men spending 2 hours of doing nothing then this works out to about £338,000 a year in lost time. Then you've got the effficency side of it, you could possibly cut a few vans and machines from the fleet as more work is being done. I happen to know that there are 2 £40k machines between 2 gangs, working together and having just 1 operator full time would mean that you'd only need 1 machine and still get the same work done. I would say that if everyworker actually did there bit and worked effecintly the council could easily save more than a million a year. I personally think that they need to have a shake up and not have control of the money. Someone who has an idea of how to budget and be effecinet should be incharge of it. As the council clearly just throw money around without a care in the world and it's us that then have to pay more in council tax. I'll be glad when the seasonal contract comes to an end and I can get out of it. grumpyandopinionated
  • Score: 3

5:26pm Tue 13 May 14

Mr Bump. says...

grumpyandopinionated wrote:
I know that this is off topic, but on similar lines, it seems that the council are penny pinching and trying to save money here and there. I know exactly where they can save a fortune. SACK all council workers, and get those that have worked in the private industry who know what pulling your weight and team work means. Just get rid of the lot and start again. I've recently started working at the council. I think that atleast 2 hours of the day outside of break times do we sit around and do nothing. There's this thing they do called "Step Back"!! Which is just that, step back and wait for someone else to do it before you do. They must work harder at looking busy than they actually would do getting on with the job. There are those that do work hard and get on with it, but atleast 2 thirds are bone idle. Everything that they do is worked out in advance to work in as much sitting around time as possible. In the private sector you'd be expected to complete the quicker jods after you've finished the larger jobs, but not the council, they do a big job then go back to the yard and sit around for anything upto 45 mins and then do all the small jobs that they could have done in this time in one day, finish them then sit around again. Its frustrating to be amoungst it. The problem is that the managers etc all know this goes on and allow it so long as it's not flaunted infront of them because they'd be questioned why it's allowed. They know the score, they did it when they were in the lower ranks. It might not sound alot in terms of man power but just working on 100 men spending 2 hours of doing nothing then this works out to about £338,000 a year in lost time. Then you've got the effficency side of it, you could possibly cut a few vans and machines from the fleet as more work is being done. I happen to know that there are 2 £40k machines between 2 gangs, working together and having just 1 operator full time would mean that you'd only need 1 machine and still get the same work done. I would say that if everyworker actually did there bit and worked effecintly the council could easily save more than a million a year. I personally think that they need to have a shake up and not have control of the money. Someone who has an idea of how to budget and be effecinet should be incharge of it. As the council clearly just throw money around without a care in the world and it's us that then have to pay more in council tax. I'll be glad when the seasonal contract comes to an end and I can get out of it.
If you are that outraged, you should resign from your grass cutting job immediately and let some other bone idle person fill your boots.
[quote][p][bold]grumpyandopinionated[/bold] wrote: I know that this is off topic, but on similar lines, it seems that the council are penny pinching and trying to save money here and there. I know exactly where they can save a fortune. SACK all council workers, and get those that have worked in the private industry who know what pulling your weight and team work means. Just get rid of the lot and start again. I've recently started working at the council. I think that atleast 2 hours of the day outside of break times do we sit around and do nothing. There's this thing they do called "Step Back"!! Which is just that, step back and wait for someone else to do it before you do. They must work harder at looking busy than they actually would do getting on with the job. There are those that do work hard and get on with it, but atleast 2 thirds are bone idle. Everything that they do is worked out in advance to work in as much sitting around time as possible. In the private sector you'd be expected to complete the quicker jods after you've finished the larger jobs, but not the council, they do a big job then go back to the yard and sit around for anything upto 45 mins and then do all the small jobs that they could have done in this time in one day, finish them then sit around again. Its frustrating to be amoungst it. The problem is that the managers etc all know this goes on and allow it so long as it's not flaunted infront of them because they'd be questioned why it's allowed. They know the score, they did it when they were in the lower ranks. It might not sound alot in terms of man power but just working on 100 men spending 2 hours of doing nothing then this works out to about £338,000 a year in lost time. Then you've got the effficency side of it, you could possibly cut a few vans and machines from the fleet as more work is being done. I happen to know that there are 2 £40k machines between 2 gangs, working together and having just 1 operator full time would mean that you'd only need 1 machine and still get the same work done. I would say that if everyworker actually did there bit and worked effecintly the council could easily save more than a million a year. I personally think that they need to have a shake up and not have control of the money. Someone who has an idea of how to budget and be effecinet should be incharge of it. As the council clearly just throw money around without a care in the world and it's us that then have to pay more in council tax. I'll be glad when the seasonal contract comes to an end and I can get out of it.[/p][/quote]If you are that outraged, you should resign from your grass cutting job immediately and let some other bone idle person fill your boots. Mr Bump.
  • Score: -4

5:36pm Tue 13 May 14

varteg1 says...

grumpyandopinionated wrote:
I know that this is off topic, but on similar lines, it seems that the council are penny pinching and trying to save money here and there. I know exactly where they can save a fortune. SACK all council workers, and get those that have worked in the private industry who know what pulling your weight and team work means. Just get rid of the lot and start again. I've recently started working at the council. I think that atleast 2 hours of the day outside of break times do we sit around and do nothing. There's this thing they do called "Step Back"!! Which is just that, step back and wait for someone else to do it before you do. They must work harder at looking busy than they actually would do getting on with the job. There are those that do work hard and get on with it, but atleast 2 thirds are bone idle. Everything that they do is worked out in advance to work in as much sitting around time as possible. In the private sector you'd be expected to complete the quicker jods after you've finished the larger jobs, but not the council, they do a big job then go back to the yard and sit around for anything upto 45 mins and then do all the small jobs that they could have done in this time in one day, finish them then sit around again. Its frustrating to be amoungst it. The problem is that the managers etc all know this goes on and allow it so long as it's not flaunted infront of them because they'd be questioned why it's allowed. They know the score, they did it when they were in the lower ranks. It might not sound alot in terms of man power but just working on 100 men spending 2 hours of doing nothing then this works out to about £338,000 a year in lost time. Then you've got the effficency side of it, you could possibly cut a few vans and machines from the fleet as more work is being done. I happen to know that there are 2 £40k machines between 2 gangs, working together and having just 1 operator full time would mean that you'd only need 1 machine and still get the same work done. I would say that if everyworker actually did there bit and worked effecintly the council could easily save more than a million a year. I personally think that they need to have a shake up and not have control of the money. Someone who has an idea of how to budget and be effecinet should be incharge of it. As the council clearly just throw money around without a care in the world and it's us that then have to pay more in council tax. I'll be glad when the seasonal contract comes to an end and I can get out of it.
Too much heat in the kitchen, the get then hell out.

Council work consists of two aspects, proactive, gardening for example, where work is ongoing all year round, and reactive, where it is necessary to have teams on standby ready to tackle work as it arises.

Look at firemen, I suppose under your ridiculous regime there would be no firemen, they after all often sit around doing nothing for much of the time, but where would you be, standing on your front lawn with a hose trying to contain a serious conflagration, whilst waiting for a PRIVATE contractor to turn out?
If you want "proper", as you see it work, then get a job where blood sweat and tears are the norm.

Get out of the council workforce and leave a slot for someone who needs a paying job, no matter how much of a sinecure you seem to think you are into.You are obviously unsuited to a job where your very attitude is likely to cause friction in the team.
[quote][p][bold]grumpyandopinionated[/bold] wrote: I know that this is off topic, but on similar lines, it seems that the council are penny pinching and trying to save money here and there. I know exactly where they can save a fortune. SACK all council workers, and get those that have worked in the private industry who know what pulling your weight and team work means. Just get rid of the lot and start again. I've recently started working at the council. I think that atleast 2 hours of the day outside of break times do we sit around and do nothing. There's this thing they do called "Step Back"!! Which is just that, step back and wait for someone else to do it before you do. They must work harder at looking busy than they actually would do getting on with the job. There are those that do work hard and get on with it, but atleast 2 thirds are bone idle. Everything that they do is worked out in advance to work in as much sitting around time as possible. In the private sector you'd be expected to complete the quicker jods after you've finished the larger jobs, but not the council, they do a big job then go back to the yard and sit around for anything upto 45 mins and then do all the small jobs that they could have done in this time in one day, finish them then sit around again. Its frustrating to be amoungst it. The problem is that the managers etc all know this goes on and allow it so long as it's not flaunted infront of them because they'd be questioned why it's allowed. They know the score, they did it when they were in the lower ranks. It might not sound alot in terms of man power but just working on 100 men spending 2 hours of doing nothing then this works out to about £338,000 a year in lost time. Then you've got the effficency side of it, you could possibly cut a few vans and machines from the fleet as more work is being done. I happen to know that there are 2 £40k machines between 2 gangs, working together and having just 1 operator full time would mean that you'd only need 1 machine and still get the same work done. I would say that if everyworker actually did there bit and worked effecintly the council could easily save more than a million a year. I personally think that they need to have a shake up and not have control of the money. Someone who has an idea of how to budget and be effecinet should be incharge of it. As the council clearly just throw money around without a care in the world and it's us that then have to pay more in council tax. I'll be glad when the seasonal contract comes to an end and I can get out of it.[/p][/quote]Too much heat in the kitchen, the get then hell out. Council work consists of two aspects, proactive, gardening for example, where work is ongoing all year round, and reactive, where it is necessary to have teams on standby ready to tackle work as it arises. Look at firemen, I suppose under your ridiculous regime there would be no firemen, they after all often sit around doing nothing for much of the time, but where would you be, standing on your front lawn with a hose trying to contain a serious conflagration, whilst waiting for a PRIVATE contractor to turn out? If you want "proper", as you see it work, then get a job where blood sweat and tears are the norm. Get out of the council workforce and leave a slot for someone who needs a paying job, no matter how much of a sinecure you seem to think you are into.You are obviously unsuited to a job where your very attitude is likely to cause friction in the team. varteg1
  • Score: -6

7:34pm Tue 13 May 14

grumpyandopinionated says...

The replies seem to be missing a point. There are lazy council workers that are being paid via money that is being paid by the hard working individuals. There is no tension in my team at all. I just get on with it and let those that don't do what ever. There isn't anything that I can do about it. But it is a sad affair that inefficencies can just be brushed aside.

Professions like firefighters, police and armed forces are there for when things do go wrong which is not a predictable thing. So why would I ever want to get rid of them. I'm in a catch 22 situation and the job I've got at the moment is better than being on the dole.

I'd love to go back to the days of being paid your worth and not being paid for just turning up for work regardless. I thought that I'd post the comment to see the response. I guess people are happy that the tax payers money gets wasted as it does, and that Labour will be voted in again. Everyone complains that nothing ever changes. It's insane to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result.
The replies seem to be missing a point. There are lazy council workers that are being paid via money that is being paid by the hard working individuals. There is no tension in my team at all. I just get on with it and let those that don't do what ever. There isn't anything that I can do about it. But it is a sad affair that inefficencies can just be brushed aside. Professions like firefighters, police and armed forces are there for when things do go wrong which is not a predictable thing. So why would I ever want to get rid of them. I'm in a catch 22 situation and the job I've got at the moment is better than being on the dole. I'd love to go back to the days of being paid your worth and not being paid for just turning up for work regardless. I thought that I'd post the comment to see the response. I guess people are happy that the tax payers money gets wasted as it does, and that Labour will be voted in again. Everyone complains that nothing ever changes. It's insane to do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result. grumpyandopinionated
  • Score: 8

9:34pm Tue 13 May 14

bradybunch says...

grumpyandopinionated wrote:
I know that this is off topic, but on similar lines, it seems that the council are penny pinching and trying to save money here and there. I know exactly where they can save a fortune. SACK all council workers, and get those that have worked in the private industry who know what pulling your weight and team work means. Just get rid of the lot and start again. I've recently started working at the council. I think that atleast 2 hours of the day outside of break times do we sit around and do nothing. There's this thing they do called "Step Back"!! Which is just that, step back and wait for someone else to do it before you do. They must work harder at looking busy than they actually would do getting on with the job. There are those that do work hard and get on with it, but atleast 2 thirds are bone idle. Everything that they do is worked out in advance to work in as much sitting around time as possible. In the private sector you'd be expected to complete the quicker jods after you've finished the larger jobs, but not the council, they do a big job then go back to the yard and sit around for anything upto 45 mins and then do all the small jobs that they could have done in this time in one day, finish them then sit around again. Its frustrating to be amoungst it. The problem is that the managers etc all know this goes on and allow it so long as it's not flaunted infront of them because they'd be questioned why it's allowed. They know the score, they did it when they were in the lower ranks. It might not sound alot in terms of man power but just working on 100 men spending 2 hours of doing nothing then this works out to about £338,000 a year in lost time. Then you've got the effficency side of it, you could possibly cut a few vans and machines from the fleet as more work is being done. I happen to know that there are 2 £40k machines between 2 gangs, working together and having just 1 operator full time would mean that you'd only need 1 machine and still get the same work done. I would say that if everyworker actually did there bit and worked effecintly the council could easily save more than a million a year. I personally think that they need to have a shake up and not have control of the money. Someone who has an idea of how to budget and be effecinet should be incharge of it. As the council clearly just throw money around without a care in the world and it's us that then have to pay more in council tax. I'll be glad when the seasonal contract comes to an end and I can get out of it.
I think you have raised a good point and I agree with what your saying.
[quote][p][bold]grumpyandopinionated[/bold] wrote: I know that this is off topic, but on similar lines, it seems that the council are penny pinching and trying to save money here and there. I know exactly where they can save a fortune. SACK all council workers, and get those that have worked in the private industry who know what pulling your weight and team work means. Just get rid of the lot and start again. I've recently started working at the council. I think that atleast 2 hours of the day outside of break times do we sit around and do nothing. There's this thing they do called "Step Back"!! Which is just that, step back and wait for someone else to do it before you do. They must work harder at looking busy than they actually would do getting on with the job. There are those that do work hard and get on with it, but atleast 2 thirds are bone idle. Everything that they do is worked out in advance to work in as much sitting around time as possible. In the private sector you'd be expected to complete the quicker jods after you've finished the larger jobs, but not the council, they do a big job then go back to the yard and sit around for anything upto 45 mins and then do all the small jobs that they could have done in this time in one day, finish them then sit around again. Its frustrating to be amoungst it. The problem is that the managers etc all know this goes on and allow it so long as it's not flaunted infront of them because they'd be questioned why it's allowed. They know the score, they did it when they were in the lower ranks. It might not sound alot in terms of man power but just working on 100 men spending 2 hours of doing nothing then this works out to about £338,000 a year in lost time. Then you've got the effficency side of it, you could possibly cut a few vans and machines from the fleet as more work is being done. I happen to know that there are 2 £40k machines between 2 gangs, working together and having just 1 operator full time would mean that you'd only need 1 machine and still get the same work done. I would say that if everyworker actually did there bit and worked effecintly the council could easily save more than a million a year. I personally think that they need to have a shake up and not have control of the money. Someone who has an idea of how to budget and be effecinet should be incharge of it. As the council clearly just throw money around without a care in the world and it's us that then have to pay more in council tax. I'll be glad when the seasonal contract comes to an end and I can get out of it.[/p][/quote]I think you have raised a good point and I agree with what your saying. bradybunch
  • Score: 4

9:02am Wed 14 May 14

BUDDAH WELSH says...

grumpyandopinionated wrote:
I know that this is off topic, but on similar lines, it seems that the council are penny pinching and trying to save money here and there. I know exactly where they can save a fortune. SACK all council workers, and get those that have worked in the private industry who know what pulling your weight and team work means. Just get rid of the lot and start again. I've recently started working at the council. I think that atleast 2 hours of the day outside of break times do we sit around and do nothing. There's this thing they do called "Step Back"!! Which is just that, step back and wait for someone else to do it before you do. They must work harder at looking busy than they actually would do getting on with the job. There are those that do work hard and get on with it, but atleast 2 thirds are bone idle. Everything that they do is worked out in advance to work in as much sitting around time as possible. In the private sector you'd be expected to complete the quicker jods after you've finished the larger jobs, but not the council, they do a big job then go back to the yard and sit around for anything upto 45 mins and then do all the small jobs that they could have done in this time in one day, finish them then sit around again. Its frustrating to be amoungst it. The problem is that the managers etc all know this goes on and allow it so long as it's not flaunted infront of them because they'd be questioned why it's allowed. They know the score, they did it when they were in the lower ranks. It might not sound alot in terms of man power but just working on 100 men spending 2 hours of doing nothing then this works out to about £338,000 a year in lost time. Then you've got the effficency side of it, you could possibly cut a few vans and machines from the fleet as more work is being done. I happen to know that there are 2 £40k machines between 2 gangs, working together and having just 1 operator full time would mean that you'd only need 1 machine and still get the same work done. I would say that if everyworker actually did there bit and worked effecintly the council could easily save more than a million a year. I personally think that they need to have a shake up and not have control of the money. Someone who has an idea of how to budget and be effecinet should be incharge of it. As the council clearly just throw money around without a care in the world and it's us that then have to pay more in council tax. I'll be glad when the seasonal contract comes to an end and I can get out of it.
Top comment and if people that disagree with you only have take a look anywhere around Gwent to see this happening. The councillors should also not get paid for doing nothing and wasting the money of thousands of residents in their area. In lots of area where there is public money there is wastage and what I would say is that there are to many people getting paid for nothing in the public sector. To many chiefs not cracking the whip and keeping their workforce in check and I would think in some work places that they don't want to upset their colleagues if that is the case don't do the job.
[quote][p][bold]grumpyandopinionated[/bold] wrote: I know that this is off topic, but on similar lines, it seems that the council are penny pinching and trying to save money here and there. I know exactly where they can save a fortune. SACK all council workers, and get those that have worked in the private industry who know what pulling your weight and team work means. Just get rid of the lot and start again. I've recently started working at the council. I think that atleast 2 hours of the day outside of break times do we sit around and do nothing. There's this thing they do called "Step Back"!! Which is just that, step back and wait for someone else to do it before you do. They must work harder at looking busy than they actually would do getting on with the job. There are those that do work hard and get on with it, but atleast 2 thirds are bone idle. Everything that they do is worked out in advance to work in as much sitting around time as possible. In the private sector you'd be expected to complete the quicker jods after you've finished the larger jobs, but not the council, they do a big job then go back to the yard and sit around for anything upto 45 mins and then do all the small jobs that they could have done in this time in one day, finish them then sit around again. Its frustrating to be amoungst it. The problem is that the managers etc all know this goes on and allow it so long as it's not flaunted infront of them because they'd be questioned why it's allowed. They know the score, they did it when they were in the lower ranks. It might not sound alot in terms of man power but just working on 100 men spending 2 hours of doing nothing then this works out to about £338,000 a year in lost time. Then you've got the effficency side of it, you could possibly cut a few vans and machines from the fleet as more work is being done. I happen to know that there are 2 £40k machines between 2 gangs, working together and having just 1 operator full time would mean that you'd only need 1 machine and still get the same work done. I would say that if everyworker actually did there bit and worked effecintly the council could easily save more than a million a year. I personally think that they need to have a shake up and not have control of the money. Someone who has an idea of how to budget and be effecinet should be incharge of it. As the council clearly just throw money around without a care in the world and it's us that then have to pay more in council tax. I'll be glad when the seasonal contract comes to an end and I can get out of it.[/p][/quote]Top comment and if people that disagree with you only have take a look anywhere around Gwent to see this happening. The councillors should also not get paid for doing nothing and wasting the money of thousands of residents in their area. In lots of area where there is public money there is wastage and what I would say is that there are to many people getting paid for nothing in the public sector. To many chiefs not cracking the whip and keeping their workforce in check and I would think in some work places that they don't want to upset their colleagues if that is the case don't do the job. BUDDAH WELSH
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8:08pm Thu 15 May 14

Independentvoter says...

You have all got it wrong ! Grumpyandopinionated is not a grass cutter at all - you can tell by his academic style of writing and knowledge - It is Bob Bright in disguise and he is talking about all the City Councillors who just sit around all day and do nothing and even get paid for it too - He is right we should sack them all and start afresh. LOL
You have all got it wrong ! Grumpyandopinionated is not a grass cutter at all - you can tell by his academic style of writing and knowledge - It is Bob Bright in disguise and he is talking about all the City Councillors who just sit around all day and do nothing and even get paid for it too - He is right we should sack them all and start afresh. LOL Independentvoter
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