Unemployed Newport dad walks 16 miles to hand in CV

JOB-HUNTER: William Bennett from Underwood with his three-week-old son Liam

JOB-HUNTER: William Bennett from Underwood with his three-week-old son Liam

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AN UNEMPLOYED Newport dad who walked 16 miles just to hand over his CV last week has said he’ll do any job he is offered.

William Bennett, 34, has been looking for work and signing on for Jobseeker’s Allowance for the last eight months after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.

Mr Bennett, who lives in Llanmartin with his wife and their five children Liam, aged two weeks, Samantha, five, Shania, 11, Cameron, 12, and John Jones, 14, had planned to be a stay-at-home dad while his wife went out to work, after his hours working as a forklift truck driver were cut so much the family found it difficult to survive.

But plans changed when Mrs Bennett fell pregnant with baby Liam, he said, and since then he has been scouring employment applications on his phone and looking for work with the help of the organisation A4E.

Last Wednesday he walked eight miles to Caldicot and back just to hand over his CV to a potential employer who had been advertising a top-mounted lifting job.

“I want to get myself a job,” said Mr Bennett, who contacted the Argus to tell his story. “We are struggling and I don’t know where to turn.

“I believe that handing over a CV in person to a manager shows you’re willing to get up and show some initiative,” he said.

“I couldn’t find a direct contact number for the company in Caldicot so I took a folder and a CV down there.

“I’ve been working since I was 16 until my wife and I made the decision to swap roles, but now I will accept anything, as long as it’s support for my family I don’t care what’s in front of me.”

The family has been struggling to pay for things for their new baby Liam. “I’ve always worked in warehouses or as a driver, I enjoy driving and have a clean driving licence,” he said. “I need to get back to work, I’ve got a family to support.”

If you can help Mr Bennett, email ema@gwent-wales.co.uk or call 01633 777206.

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6:44am Tue 20 May 14

Independentvoter says...

Good on him and I hope he finds work. Just a thought though ! How much is a ladder and a bucket ? You can easily earn £50 a day window cleaning and that's just cleaning houses.

To clean my house would cost about £8.50 so if you could clean 6 houses that's £51 x 7 days = £357 a week. We haven't got a window cleaner in our area. While you got your ladders you will find people want their guttering emptied that costs about £45.

Then some people want their PVC guttering and downpipes wiped clean the list of jobs are endless. You don't need any qualifications, a suit, no interviews, no excuses. So what are people waiting for ? There is work out there if you want it - Life is what you make it !

Ps. I need my garden done too !!
Good on him and I hope he finds work. Just a thought though ! How much is a ladder and a bucket ? You can easily earn £50 a day window cleaning and that's just cleaning houses. To clean my house would cost about £8.50 so if you could clean 6 houses that's £51 x 7 days = £357 a week. We haven't got a window cleaner in our area. While you got your ladders you will find people want their guttering emptied that costs about £45. Then some people want their PVC guttering and downpipes wiped clean the list of jobs are endless. You don't need any qualifications, a suit, no interviews, no excuses. So what are people waiting for ? There is work out there if you want it - Life is what you make it ! Ps. I need my garden done too !! Independentvoter
  • Score: 40

7:05am Tue 20 May 14

scraptheWAG says...

a lot of warehouse work has moved over the bridge (bridge fees too expensive).

Also from what i have been told by the hgv drivers at the large supermarket chains that are down there is they are packed out with eastern Europeans from agencies and getting paid the national minimum wage. Yes the EU has been great for our large supermarkets but not so good for the people working there but i don't suppose milliband or cameron care they will never end up there!!!!!!!!
a lot of warehouse work has moved over the bridge (bridge fees too expensive). Also from what i have been told by the hgv drivers at the large supermarket chains that are down there is they are packed out with eastern Europeans from agencies and getting paid the national minimum wage. Yes the EU has been great for our large supermarkets but not so good for the people working there but i don't suppose milliband or cameron care they will never end up there!!!!!!!! scraptheWAG
  • Score: 36

7:29am Tue 20 May 14

Gasguy says...

Independentvoter wrote:
Good on him and I hope he finds work. Just a thought though ! How much is a ladder and a bucket ? You can easily earn £50 a day window cleaning and that's just cleaning houses.

To clean my house would cost about £8.50 so if you could clean 6 houses that's £51 x 7 days = £357 a week. We haven't got a window cleaner in our area. While you got your ladders you will find people want their guttering emptied that costs about £45.

Then some people want their PVC guttering and downpipes wiped clean the list of jobs are endless. You don't need any qualifications, a suit, no interviews, no excuses. So what are people waiting for ? There is work out there if you want it - Life is what you make it !

Ps. I need my garden done too !!
Minus public liability insurance and tax obviously?
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: Good on him and I hope he finds work. Just a thought though ! How much is a ladder and a bucket ? You can easily earn £50 a day window cleaning and that's just cleaning houses. To clean my house would cost about £8.50 so if you could clean 6 houses that's £51 x 7 days = £357 a week. We haven't got a window cleaner in our area. While you got your ladders you will find people want their guttering emptied that costs about £45. Then some people want their PVC guttering and downpipes wiped clean the list of jobs are endless. You don't need any qualifications, a suit, no interviews, no excuses. So what are people waiting for ? There is work out there if you want it - Life is what you make it ! Ps. I need my garden done too !![/p][/quote]Minus public liability insurance and tax obviously? Gasguy
  • Score: 18

8:25am Tue 20 May 14

scraptheWAG says...

Gasguy wrote:
Independentvoter wrote:
Good on him and I hope he finds work. Just a thought though ! How much is a ladder and a bucket ? You can easily earn £50 a day window cleaning and that's just cleaning houses.

To clean my house would cost about £8.50 so if you could clean 6 houses that's £51 x 7 days = £357 a week. We haven't got a window cleaner in our area. While you got your ladders you will find people want their guttering emptied that costs about £45.

Then some people want their PVC guttering and downpipes wiped clean the list of jobs are endless. You don't need any qualifications, a suit, no interviews, no excuses. So what are people waiting for ? There is work out there if you want it - Life is what you make it !

Ps. I need my garden done too !!
Minus public liability insurance and tax obviously?
get the insurance yes then I suppose you can work for cash in hand HAPPY DAYS!! I could do it in the evening but i dont like heights!
[quote][p][bold]Gasguy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: Good on him and I hope he finds work. Just a thought though ! How much is a ladder and a bucket ? You can easily earn £50 a day window cleaning and that's just cleaning houses. To clean my house would cost about £8.50 so if you could clean 6 houses that's £51 x 7 days = £357 a week. We haven't got a window cleaner in our area. While you got your ladders you will find people want their guttering emptied that costs about £45. Then some people want their PVC guttering and downpipes wiped clean the list of jobs are endless. You don't need any qualifications, a suit, no interviews, no excuses. So what are people waiting for ? There is work out there if you want it - Life is what you make it ! Ps. I need my garden done too !![/p][/quote]Minus public liability insurance and tax obviously?[/p][/quote]get the insurance yes then I suppose you can work for cash in hand HAPPY DAYS!! I could do it in the evening but i dont like heights! scraptheWAG
  • Score: -1

8:30am Tue 20 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...
Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ... Newportsucks85
  • Score: -42

8:37am Tue 20 May 14

scraptheWAG says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...
dont know the details but alot of people find it financially beneficial to work part time for minimum wage and the tax credits make up all the rest of their pay. a stupid system brought in by a stupid man mr brown
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...[/p][/quote]dont know the details but alot of people find it financially beneficial to work part time for minimum wage and the tax credits make up all the rest of their pay. a stupid system brought in by a stupid man mr brown scraptheWAG
  • Score: 11

8:48am Tue 20 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

scraptheWAG wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...
dont know the details but alot of people find it financially beneficial to work part time for minimum wage and the tax credits make up all the rest of their pay. a stupid system brought in by a stupid man mr brown
Family tax credits are for people who cant find a full time job .... then u apply for tax credits to bump your wages up whilst doing the same weekly hours ... free money again ... lets keep- everyone in this country wrapped up in a cotton ball ... when it hits the fan u will see what years off being in bubble wrap can do to a nation .... Britain is weak, fat and lazy ...
[quote][p][bold]scraptheWAG[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...[/p][/quote]dont know the details but alot of people find it financially beneficial to work part time for minimum wage and the tax credits make up all the rest of their pay. a stupid system brought in by a stupid man mr brown[/p][/quote]Family tax credits are for people who cant find a full time job .... then u apply for tax credits to bump your wages up whilst doing the same weekly hours ... free money again ... lets keep- everyone in this country wrapped up in a cotton ball ... when it hits the fan u will see what years off being in bubble wrap can do to a nation .... Britain is weak, fat and lazy ... Newportsucks85
  • Score: 0

9:24am Tue 20 May 14

Mervyn James says...

Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....
Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes.... Mervyn James
  • Score: 80

9:51am Tue 20 May 14

displayed says...

Independentvoter wrote:
Good on him and I hope he finds work. Just a thought though ! How much is a ladder and a bucket ? You can easily earn £50 a day window cleaning and that's just cleaning houses.

To clean my house would cost about £8.50 so if you could clean 6 houses that's £51 x 7 days = £357 a week. We haven't got a window cleaner in our area. While you got your ladders you will find people want their guttering emptied that costs about £45.

Then some people want their PVC guttering and downpipes wiped clean the list of jobs are endless. You don't need any qualifications, a suit, no interviews, no excuses. So what are people waiting for ? There is work out there if you want it - Life is what you make it !

Ps. I need my garden done too !!
"has been looking for work and signing on for Jobseeker’s Allowance"

You are not allowed to do any kind of work if ur on Job Seeks....
If ur caught they will stop ur money!
He needs regular work, not P/T sporadic work....
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: Good on him and I hope he finds work. Just a thought though ! How much is a ladder and a bucket ? You can easily earn £50 a day window cleaning and that's just cleaning houses. To clean my house would cost about £8.50 so if you could clean 6 houses that's £51 x 7 days = £357 a week. We haven't got a window cleaner in our area. While you got your ladders you will find people want their guttering emptied that costs about £45. Then some people want their PVC guttering and downpipes wiped clean the list of jobs are endless. You don't need any qualifications, a suit, no interviews, no excuses. So what are people waiting for ? There is work out there if you want it - Life is what you make it ! Ps. I need my garden done too !![/p][/quote]"has been looking for work and signing on for Jobseeker’s Allowance" You are not allowed to do any kind of work if ur on Job Seeks.... If ur caught they will stop ur money! He needs regular work, not P/T sporadic work.... displayed
  • Score: 13

10:18am Tue 20 May 14

jo1968 says...

well good on him, how many would do this just to get a job, hope someone contacts him soon
well good on him, how many would do this just to get a job, hope someone contacts him soon jo1968
  • Score: 37

10:25am Tue 20 May 14

Evil Flanker says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...
Maybe you didn't read the bit that said...

'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.'

Note the word 'unexpectadly'
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...[/p][/quote]Maybe you didn't read the bit that said... 'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.' Note the word 'unexpectadly' Evil Flanker
  • Score: 25

10:39am Tue 20 May 14

exMark says...

Title reads "Walks 16 miles to hand in CV".

Should read "Walks 8 miles to hand in CV, then walks 8 miles home"

On the part about falling pregnant unexpectedly. There's this marvelous invention these days called "Contraception". Maybe they should've tried that if they couldn't afford another child.
Title reads "Walks 16 miles to hand in CV". Should read "Walks 8 miles to hand in CV, then walks 8 miles home" On the part about falling pregnant unexpectedly. There's this marvelous invention these days called "Contraception". Maybe they should've tried that if they couldn't afford another child. exMark
  • Score: -28

10:40am Tue 20 May 14

Independentvoter says...

displayed wrote:
Independentvoter wrote:
Good on him and I hope he finds work. Just a thought though ! How much is a ladder and a bucket ? You can easily earn £50 a day window cleaning and that's just cleaning houses.

To clean my house would cost about £8.50 so if you could clean 6 houses that's £51 x 7 days = £357 a week. We haven't got a window cleaner in our area. While you got your ladders you will find people want their guttering emptied that costs about £45.

Then some people want their PVC guttering and downpipes wiped clean the list of jobs are endless. You don't need any qualifications, a suit, no interviews, no excuses. So what are people waiting for ? There is work out there if you want it - Life is what you make it !

Ps. I need my garden done too !!
"has been looking for work and signing on for Jobseeker’s Allowance"

You are not allowed to do any kind of work if ur on Job Seeks....
If ur caught they will stop ur money!
He needs regular work, not P/T sporadic work....
Why can't he sign off JSA ? Sporadic work ??? Shops need their windows cleaned 365 days a year. Shops do open when it is raining.

For some this is too much hard like hard work and sadly there are some people out there who are experts at giving us reasons why they shouldn't get out of bed, get off benefits and work - and then they have the cheek to say immigrants are taking the jobs that they wouldn't bother doing themselves whilst they are living comfortably themselves on benefits. huh !

Got to give the guy full marks for getting off his but and trying though.

My next TMA in college is HRM and asks what motivates people to work ?
[quote][p][bold]displayed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: Good on him and I hope he finds work. Just a thought though ! How much is a ladder and a bucket ? You can easily earn £50 a day window cleaning and that's just cleaning houses. To clean my house would cost about £8.50 so if you could clean 6 houses that's £51 x 7 days = £357 a week. We haven't got a window cleaner in our area. While you got your ladders you will find people want their guttering emptied that costs about £45. Then some people want their PVC guttering and downpipes wiped clean the list of jobs are endless. You don't need any qualifications, a suit, no interviews, no excuses. So what are people waiting for ? There is work out there if you want it - Life is what you make it ! Ps. I need my garden done too !![/p][/quote]"has been looking for work and signing on for Jobseeker’s Allowance" You are not allowed to do any kind of work if ur on Job Seeks.... If ur caught they will stop ur money! He needs regular work, not P/T sporadic work....[/p][/quote]Why can't he sign off JSA ? Sporadic work ??? Shops need their windows cleaned 365 days a year. Shops do open when it is raining. For some this is too much hard like hard work and sadly there are some people out there who are experts at giving us reasons why they shouldn't get out of bed, get off benefits and work - and then they have the cheek to say immigrants are taking the jobs that they wouldn't bother doing themselves whilst they are living comfortably themselves on benefits. huh ! Got to give the guy full marks for getting off his but and trying though. My next TMA in college is HRM and asks what motivates people to work ? Independentvoter
  • Score: -4

10:43am Tue 20 May 14

Independentvoter says...

Independentvoter wrote:
displayed wrote:
Independentvoter wrote:
Good on him and I hope he finds work. Just a thought though ! How much is a ladder and a bucket ? You can easily earn £50 a day window cleaning and that's just cleaning houses.

To clean my house would cost about £8.50 so if you could clean 6 houses that's £51 x 7 days = £357 a week. We haven't got a window cleaner in our area. While you got your ladders you will find people want their guttering emptied that costs about £45.

Then some people want their PVC guttering and downpipes wiped clean the list of jobs are endless. You don't need any qualifications, a suit, no interviews, no excuses. So what are people waiting for ? There is work out there if you want it - Life is what you make it !

Ps. I need my garden done too !!
"has been looking for work and signing on for Jobseeker’s Allowance"

You are not allowed to do any kind of work if ur on Job Seeks....
If ur caught they will stop ur money!
He needs regular work, not P/T sporadic work....
Why can't he sign off JSA ? Sporadic work ??? Shops need their windows cleaned 365 days a year. Shops do open when it is raining.

For some this is too much hard like hard work and sadly there are some people out there who are experts at giving us reasons why they shouldn't get out of bed, get off benefits and work - and then they have the cheek to say immigrants are taking the jobs that they wouldn't bother doing themselves whilst they are living comfortably themselves on benefits. huh !

Got to give the guy full marks for getting off his but and trying though.

My next TMA in college is HRM and asks what motivates people to work ?
"Too much like hard work"
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]displayed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: Good on him and I hope he finds work. Just a thought though ! How much is a ladder and a bucket ? You can easily earn £50 a day window cleaning and that's just cleaning houses. To clean my house would cost about £8.50 so if you could clean 6 houses that's £51 x 7 days = £357 a week. We haven't got a window cleaner in our area. While you got your ladders you will find people want their guttering emptied that costs about £45. Then some people want their PVC guttering and downpipes wiped clean the list of jobs are endless. You don't need any qualifications, a suit, no interviews, no excuses. So what are people waiting for ? There is work out there if you want it - Life is what you make it ! Ps. I need my garden done too !![/p][/quote]"has been looking for work and signing on for Jobseeker’s Allowance" You are not allowed to do any kind of work if ur on Job Seeks.... If ur caught they will stop ur money! He needs regular work, not P/T sporadic work....[/p][/quote]Why can't he sign off JSA ? Sporadic work ??? Shops need their windows cleaned 365 days a year. Shops do open when it is raining. For some this is too much hard like hard work and sadly there are some people out there who are experts at giving us reasons why they shouldn't get out of bed, get off benefits and work - and then they have the cheek to say immigrants are taking the jobs that they wouldn't bother doing themselves whilst they are living comfortably themselves on benefits. huh ! Got to give the guy full marks for getting off his but and trying though. My next TMA in college is HRM and asks what motivates people to work ?[/p][/quote]"Too much like hard work" Independentvoter
  • Score: -5

10:44am Tue 20 May 14

exMark says...

How did he contact the Argus with his story? Did he walk there from Llanmartin?

Or did he finally figure out wonders that are email/post/telephone
?
How did he contact the Argus with his story? Did he walk there from Llanmartin? Or did he finally figure out wonders that are email/post/telephone ? exMark
  • Score: -28

12:15pm Tue 20 May 14

Magor says...

Loads of warehouse and driving work in Avonmouth.Yes there are loads of Polish but the last one we took on in our warehouse did not like it , they want better jobs now and firms are finding it hard to recruit.WAG needs to get that bridge sorted out so more firms move into Wales instead of Avonmouth and its cheaper for Welsh workers to get to Bristol.
Loads of warehouse and driving work in Avonmouth.Yes there are loads of Polish but the last one we took on in our warehouse did not like it , they want better jobs now and firms are finding it hard to recruit.WAG needs to get that bridge sorted out so more firms move into Wales instead of Avonmouth and its cheaper for Welsh workers to get to Bristol. Magor
  • Score: 13

12:26pm Tue 20 May 14

Woodgnome says...

This guy deserves a job and with that positive attitude it wont be long before he's offered one
This guy deserves a job and with that positive attitude it wont be long before he's offered one Woodgnome
  • Score: 32

12:44pm Tue 20 May 14

Auntyg58 says...

I wish you every success, here is a man willing to do something. A few more could take his example.

I hope that local employers will be impressed with your effort and you will be rewarded.
I wish you every success, here is a man willing to do something. A few more could take his example. I hope that local employers will be impressed with your effort and you will be rewarded. Auntyg58
  • Score: 33

12:59pm Tue 20 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

Mervyn James wrote:
Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....
you clearly did not finish school ....
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....[/p][/quote]you clearly did not finish school .... Newportsucks85
  • Score: -36

1:00pm Tue 20 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

Mervyn James wrote:
Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....
You clearly did not finish school ... bet your on the dole as well ....
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....[/p][/quote]You clearly did not finish school ... bet your on the dole as well .... Newportsucks85
  • Score: -43

1:01pm Tue 20 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

Evil Flanker wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...
Maybe you didn't read the bit that said...

'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.'

Note the word 'unexpectadly'
use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ...
[quote][p][bold]Evil Flanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...[/p][/quote]Maybe you didn't read the bit that said... 'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.' Note the word 'unexpectadly'[/p][/quote]use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ... Newportsucks85
  • Score: -18

1:23pm Tue 20 May 14

throwy1 says...

Two comments window cleaning is a great idea and can lead to other jobs so long as you have a head for heights.
Secondly contraception, there is only one form of contraception that is guaranteed and that is total abstinence. The Pill is not 100% safe and there are a host of reasons for women not to be on it for a long period of time. The only other reasonably safe contraception is a vasectomy and that is not 100% guaranteed
Two comments window cleaning is a great idea and can lead to other jobs so long as you have a head for heights. Secondly contraception, there is only one form of contraception that is guaranteed and that is total abstinence. The Pill is not 100% safe and there are a host of reasons for women not to be on it for a long period of time. The only other reasonably safe contraception is a vasectomy and that is not 100% guaranteed throwy1
  • Score: 18

1:27pm Tue 20 May 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

Unless you have contacts in high places, know the right people and went to the right school it's extremely hard to get a decent job in Britain - probably the most classist, deferential, secretivie and nepotistic country in the world. It's literally not what you know but whom you know - which goes some way to explain why the country is in such a mess. Good luck to this gentleman - remember through all the rejections that you're much better than some pointless and gutless mediocrity in a suit. Also, kudos to him for having the courage to defy the sexist gender stereotypes and staying at home to look after the kids when his wife was working.
Unless you have contacts in high places, know the right people and went to the right school it's extremely hard to get a decent job in Britain - probably the most classist, deferential, secretivie and nepotistic country in the world. It's literally not what you know but whom you know - which goes some way to explain why the country is in such a mess. Good luck to this gentleman - remember through all the rejections that you're much better than some pointless and gutless mediocrity in a suit. Also, kudos to him for having the courage to defy the sexist gender stereotypes and staying at home to look after the kids when his wife was working. Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 7

1:54pm Tue 20 May 14

Ianonetime says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....
You clearly did not finish school ... bet your on the dole as well ....
You're*

School did you no favours.

Good on the guy I say.
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....[/p][/quote]You clearly did not finish school ... bet your on the dole as well ....[/p][/quote]You're* School did you no favours. Good on the guy I say. Ianonetime
  • Score: 45

2:46pm Tue 20 May 14

bravoscar says...

Two word's ROYAL MAIL
Two word's ROYAL MAIL bravoscar
  • Score: -7

2:47pm Tue 20 May 14

exMark says...

In future I'd suggest he walks a much shorter distance to Langstone and get on one of them revolutionary new vehicles called a bus and travel on it until he reaches Caldicot.

That way, he wouldn't have had to get in touch with the Argus and I wouldn't have had to waist my time reading this sob story. Which by the way, if you read out loud with some sad music in the background, sounds remarkably like the beginning of an X Factor/BGT audition.
In future I'd suggest he walks a much shorter distance to Langstone and get on one of them revolutionary new vehicles called a bus and travel on it until he reaches Caldicot. That way, he wouldn't have had to get in touch with the Argus and I wouldn't have had to waist my time reading this sob story. Which by the way, if you read out loud with some sad music in the background, sounds remarkably like the beginning of an X Factor/BGT audition. exMark
  • Score: -26

2:50pm Tue 20 May 14

Woodgnome says...

exMark wrote:
In future I'd suggest he walks a much shorter distance to Langstone and get on one of them revolutionary new vehicles called a bus and travel on it until he reaches Caldicot.

That way, he wouldn't have had to get in touch with the Argus and I wouldn't have had to waist my time reading this sob story. Which by the way, if you read out loud with some sad music in the background, sounds remarkably like the beginning of an X Factor/BGT audition.
Don't read it then!!
I expect you're reading the SWA in your employer's time anyway.
[quote][p][bold]exMark[/bold] wrote: In future I'd suggest he walks a much shorter distance to Langstone and get on one of them revolutionary new vehicles called a bus and travel on it until he reaches Caldicot. That way, he wouldn't have had to get in touch with the Argus and I wouldn't have had to waist my time reading this sob story. Which by the way, if you read out loud with some sad music in the background, sounds remarkably like the beginning of an X Factor/BGT audition.[/p][/quote]Don't read it then!! I expect you're reading the SWA in your employer's time anyway. Woodgnome
  • Score: 13

3:11pm Tue 20 May 14

inkyskin says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....
You clearly did not finish school ... bet your on the dole as well ....
You're.
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....[/p][/quote]You clearly did not finish school ... bet your on the dole as well ....[/p][/quote]You're. inkyskin
  • Score: 15

4:05pm Tue 20 May 14

Floppy backed says...

throwy1 wrote:
Two comments window cleaning is a great idea and can lead to other jobs so long as you have a head for heights.
Secondly contraception, there is only one form of contraception that is guaranteed and that is total abstinence. The Pill is not 100% safe and there are a host of reasons for women not to be on it for a long period of time. The only other reasonably safe contraception is a vasectomy and that is not 100% guaranteed
I still find this hard to understand - I have two children and not in my early 20's either. I managed successfully plan my family and conceive quickly. Its only human error that these systems do not work - to me these are just excuses. The pill is 99%, the coil is fantastic. Vasectomy - never heard a case of that failing in this day and age. Family planning is amazing and we are lucky that it all entirely free in the country. We work extremely hard - long hours but 2 children is all we could handle and afford. You have to be earning a cracking wage to afford 3+ children and a partner plus big car to cart them all around. But then again earn a low wage do the minimal amount of work and have the rest made up with tax credits and family allowance - not bad really.

As for the window cleaning - dont forget you need a reliable van, insurance, tax, materials, quality ladder, PI insurance, clothing. Then the joys of debt collecting. Nothing is as easy as it seems anymore.
[quote][p][bold]throwy1[/bold] wrote: Two comments window cleaning is a great idea and can lead to other jobs so long as you have a head for heights. Secondly contraception, there is only one form of contraception that is guaranteed and that is total abstinence. The Pill is not 100% safe and there are a host of reasons for women not to be on it for a long period of time. The only other reasonably safe contraception is a vasectomy and that is not 100% guaranteed[/p][/quote]I still find this hard to understand - I have two children and not in my early 20's either. I managed successfully plan my family and conceive quickly. Its only human error that these systems do not work - to me these are just excuses. The pill is 99%, the coil is fantastic. Vasectomy - never heard a case of that failing in this day and age. Family planning is amazing and we are lucky that it all entirely free in the country. We work extremely hard - long hours but 2 children is all we could handle and afford. You have to be earning a cracking wage to afford 3+ children and a partner plus big car to cart them all around. But then again earn a low wage do the minimal amount of work and have the rest made up with tax credits and family allowance - not bad really. As for the window cleaning - dont forget you need a reliable van, insurance, tax, materials, quality ladder, PI insurance, clothing. Then the joys of debt collecting. Nothing is as easy as it seems anymore. Floppy backed
  • Score: 7

4:19pm Tue 20 May 14

polly12 says...

Good luck finding a job you deserve it if only all people were as willing as you
Good luck finding a job you deserve it if only all people were as willing as you polly12
  • Score: 20

4:51pm Tue 20 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

inkyskin wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....
You clearly did not finish school ... bet your on the dole as well ....
You're.
You're ! thanks for the correction! too busy actually earning money to care ;) bye for now
[quote][p][bold]inkyskin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....[/p][/quote]You clearly did not finish school ... bet your on the dole as well ....[/p][/quote]You're.[/p][/quote]You're ! thanks for the correction! too busy actually earning money to care ;) bye for now Newportsucks85
  • Score: -29

7:32pm Tue 20 May 14

El Chapo says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...
This comment has been given the thumbs down 18 times and I am just going to give you one massive thumbs up!

In a developing country these kids would be starving and begging on the streets or being sold into prostitution.

One parent working earning £15K a year the other child minding and then the government picking up the housing benefit etc.- £40K a year.

This family is still young so I guess maybe they could squeeze another 2-3 kids in before they reach their 40's and even get an upgrade on the house! :)

The UK is the softest nation on earth
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...[/p][/quote]This comment has been given the thumbs down 18 times and I am just going to give you one massive thumbs up! In a developing country these kids would be starving and begging on the streets or being sold into prostitution. One parent working earning £15K a year the other child minding and then the government picking up the housing benefit etc.- £40K a year. This family is still young so I guess maybe they could squeeze another 2-3 kids in before they reach their 40's and even get an upgrade on the house! :) The UK is the softest nation on earth El Chapo
  • Score: 2

7:55pm Tue 20 May 14

El Chapo says...

I have one child and my wife and I may have another. But guess what, we will not have anymore after the second because I want to ensure that I am able to financially provide for my family in everyway - home, holidays, food, comforts.

I hope this guy finds a job but honestly having 5 kids that you cannot afford is extremely irresponsible and the future tragedy is that it is highly possible that his kids will go on and do the same.

The UK is the softest nation in the world
I have one child and my wife and I may have another. But guess what, we will not have anymore after the second because I want to ensure that I am able to financially provide for my family in everyway - home, holidays, food, comforts. I hope this guy finds a job but honestly having 5 kids that you cannot afford is extremely irresponsible and the future tragedy is that it is highly possible that his kids will go on and do the same. The UK is the softest nation in the world El Chapo
  • Score: 5

8:04pm Tue 20 May 14

El Chapo says...

Evil Flanker wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...
Maybe you didn't read the bit that said...

'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.'

Note the word 'unexpectadly'
Of course they had to say unexpectedly fell pregnant this is an attempt of a sob story of some poor guy walking miles to get a job with his kids at home and wife bla bla bla. Hold on while I put my Lionel Richie album on for inspiration.

What this story doesn't tell you is how much this family gets a year in government pay-outs - that's the real headline!

Look Evil Flanker - if you are slow enough to be sucked into this slightly fabricated nonsense - fine but us non benefit claimers out there in the real world see this story for what is really is.
[quote][p][bold]Evil Flanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...[/p][/quote]Maybe you didn't read the bit that said... 'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.' Note the word 'unexpectadly'[/p][/quote]Of course they had to say unexpectedly fell pregnant this is an attempt of a sob story of some poor guy walking miles to get a job with his kids at home and wife bla bla bla. Hold on while I put my Lionel Richie album on for inspiration. What this story doesn't tell you is how much this family gets a year in government pay-outs - that's the real headline! Look Evil Flanker - if you are slow enough to be sucked into this slightly fabricated nonsense - fine but us non benefit claimers out there in the real world see this story for what is really is. El Chapo
  • Score: -1

8:13pm Tue 20 May 14

El Chapo says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
Evil Flanker wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...
Maybe you didn't read the bit that said...

'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.'

Note the word 'unexpectadly'
use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ...
That's right Newportsucks85
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Evil Flanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...[/p][/quote]Maybe you didn't read the bit that said... 'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.' Note the word 'unexpectadly'[/p][/quote]use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ...[/p][/quote]That's right Newportsucks85 El Chapo
  • Score: -8

8:17pm Tue 20 May 14

El Chapo says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Unless you have contacts in high places, know the right people and went to the right school it's extremely hard to get a decent job in Britain - probably the most classist, deferential, secretivie and nepotistic country in the world. It's literally not what you know but whom you know - which goes some way to explain why the country is in such a mess. Good luck to this gentleman - remember through all the rejections that you're much better than some pointless and gutless mediocrity in a suit. Also, kudos to him for having the courage to defy the sexist gender stereotypes and staying at home to look after the kids when his wife was working.
Katie
I am not psychic but I get the impression that you have had some bad luck in your chosen career path?
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Unless you have contacts in high places, know the right people and went to the right school it's extremely hard to get a decent job in Britain - probably the most classist, deferential, secretivie and nepotistic country in the world. It's literally not what you know but whom you know - which goes some way to explain why the country is in such a mess. Good luck to this gentleman - remember through all the rejections that you're much better than some pointless and gutless mediocrity in a suit. Also, kudos to him for having the courage to defy the sexist gender stereotypes and staying at home to look after the kids when his wife was working.[/p][/quote]Katie I am not psychic but I get the impression that you have had some bad luck in your chosen career path? El Chapo
  • Score: -8

9:08pm Tue 20 May 14

smartie40 says...

GIVE THE MAN A DRIVING JOB SOUTH WALES ARGUS YOU OBVIOUSLY SEEN GOOD IN THIS MAN TO PRINT HIS STORY!!
GIVE THE MAN A DRIVING JOB SOUTH WALES ARGUS YOU OBVIOUSLY SEEN GOOD IN THIS MAN TO PRINT HIS STORY!! smartie40
  • Score: 14

10:25pm Tue 20 May 14

bobbajob says...

The most read story and the most commented on - unbelievable, really unbelievable. Here's another blinding story for you - I walked 6 miles to the pub a few weeks ago, had a meal and got the bus back. If you want to find out what I had for dessert, ring 01633 123456 or email me on non-story@argusjoke.
newspaper.com
Katie-reregistered, I feel your pain..
The most read story and the most commented on - unbelievable, really unbelievable. Here's another blinding story for you - I walked 6 miles to the pub a few weeks ago, had a meal and got the bus back. If you want to find out what I had for dessert, ring 01633 123456 or email me on non-story@argusjoke. newspaper.com Katie-reregistered, I feel your pain.. bobbajob
  • Score: 1

10:32pm Tue 20 May 14

Jonnytrouble says...

To all you sad buggers having a go at this lad who has grafted since 16 yrs of age,i wonder about you ???
He is trying to get the message home via SWA that he is willing to work hard and has the guts to show his face on here and plead for a job with a decent wage to support his family !
Be thankful he is honest and not robbing YOUR home when YOUR out in the pub or whatever you may be doing as like a lot of scumbags do these days !
To all you sad buggers having a go at this lad who has grafted since 16 yrs of age,i wonder about you ??? He is trying to get the message home via SWA that he is willing to work hard and has the guts to show his face on here and plead for a job with a decent wage to support his family ! Be thankful he is honest and not robbing YOUR home when YOUR out in the pub or whatever you may be doing as like a lot of scumbags do these days ! Jonnytrouble
  • Score: 13

10:39pm Tue 20 May 14

Jonnytrouble says...

Maybe a nice East European worker in East South wales would give up his job for him????
Maybe a nice East European worker in East South wales would give up his job for him???? Jonnytrouble
  • Score: 5

11:03pm Tue 20 May 14

Dano1967 says...

Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes.
Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different.
I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones.
I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual.
Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes. Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different. I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones. I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual. Dano1967
  • Score: 5

12:41am Wed 21 May 14

cymruamblyth says...

El Chapo wrote:
I have one child and my wife and I may have another. But guess what, we will not have anymore after the second because I want to ensure that I am able to financially provide for my family in everyway - home, holidays, food, comforts.

I hope this guy finds a job but honestly having 5 kids that you cannot afford is extremely irresponsible and the future tragedy is that it is highly possible that his kids will go on and do the same.

The UK is the softest nation in the world
They had a similar on the Guardian about a guy 8 girls because he wanted a boy.. All the comments where irresponsible he was having children he couldn't afford and the world was over populated..

And we had the Guardian veggie burger eating left whingers they hate kids.. On the Argus same comments but changed to Daily Mail Right whingers..

It seems left or right leaning both sides of the political spectrum have a problem with large family's.. Obviously the wife girlfriend must have been pregnant in her teens..

What people take offense to is that people such as yourself who have one or two children because they can't afford more.. And we get the same cliched argument of somebody with no telly my 11 kids are paying your taxes

When his five children grow up they will probably all have cars all need houses adding to the population and the over population... What about the people with no children who are paying for your five kids? Can't believe how naive his friends are yes having another baby was a accident
[quote][p][bold]El Chapo[/bold] wrote: I have one child and my wife and I may have another. But guess what, we will not have anymore after the second because I want to ensure that I am able to financially provide for my family in everyway - home, holidays, food, comforts. I hope this guy finds a job but honestly having 5 kids that you cannot afford is extremely irresponsible and the future tragedy is that it is highly possible that his kids will go on and do the same. The UK is the softest nation in the world[/p][/quote]They had a similar on the Guardian about a guy 8 girls because he wanted a boy.. All the comments where irresponsible he was having children he couldn't afford and the world was over populated.. And we had the Guardian veggie burger eating left whingers they hate kids.. On the Argus same comments but changed to Daily Mail Right whingers.. It seems left or right leaning both sides of the political spectrum have a problem with large family's.. Obviously the wife girlfriend must have been pregnant in her teens.. What people take offense to is that people such as yourself who have one or two children because they can't afford more.. And we get the same cliched argument of somebody with no telly my 11 kids are paying your taxes When his five children grow up they will probably all have cars all need houses adding to the population and the over population... What about the people with no children who are paying for your five kids? Can't believe how naive his friends are yes having another baby was a accident cymruamblyth
  • Score: 1

3:08am Wed 21 May 14

Dee-Gee says...

El Chapo wrote:
I have one child and my wife and I may have another. But guess what, we will not have anymore after the second because I want to ensure that I am able to financially provide for my family in everyway - home, holidays, food, comforts.

I hope this guy finds a job but honestly having 5 kids that you cannot afford is extremely irresponsible and the future tragedy is that it is highly possible that his kids will go on and do the same.

The UK is the softest nation in the world
I assume you'll be having an abortion in the event of a contraception failure, then?
[quote][p][bold]El Chapo[/bold] wrote: I have one child and my wife and I may have another. But guess what, we will not have anymore after the second because I want to ensure that I am able to financially provide for my family in everyway - home, holidays, food, comforts. I hope this guy finds a job but honestly having 5 kids that you cannot afford is extremely irresponsible and the future tragedy is that it is highly possible that his kids will go on and do the same. The UK is the softest nation in the world[/p][/quote]I assume you'll be having an abortion in the event of a contraception failure, then? Dee-Gee
  • Score: -1

5:42am Wed 21 May 14

Dolieboy says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
Evil Flanker wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...
Maybe you didn't read the bit that said...

'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.'

Note the word 'unexpectadly'
use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ...
Don't have kids yet, seems you have done everyone a favour
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Evil Flanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...[/p][/quote]Maybe you didn't read the bit that said... 'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.' Note the word 'unexpectadly'[/p][/quote]use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ...[/p][/quote]Don't have kids yet, seems you have done everyone a favour Dolieboy
  • Score: 4

7:29am Wed 21 May 14

Independentvoter says...

Jonnytrouble wrote:
Maybe a nice East European worker in East South wales would give up his job for him????
Maybe a nice British person will give up their Karaoke/Sky Sports Bar in Spain and give a Spanish person a job ????

Blame Blame Blame. We can all go around blaming other people but that won't change your life. The only person you can blame for your own failures in life is yourself !!!!
[quote][p][bold]Jonnytrouble[/bold] wrote: Maybe a nice East European worker in East South wales would give up his job for him????[/p][/quote]Maybe a nice British person will give up their Karaoke/Sky Sports Bar in Spain and give a Spanish person a job ???? Blame Blame Blame. We can all go around blaming other people but that won't change your life. The only person you can blame for your own failures in life is yourself !!!! Independentvoter
  • Score: 7

7:30am Wed 21 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

Dolieboy wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Evil Flanker wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...
Maybe you didn't read the bit that said...

'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.'

Note the word 'unexpectadly'
use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ...
Don't have kids yet, seems you have done everyone a favour
LOL look at your name.....go sign on boy ... bet u got about 7 kids.. haven't worked a day in your life ! ? ! just like the majority ...
[quote][p][bold]Dolieboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Evil Flanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...[/p][/quote]Maybe you didn't read the bit that said... 'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.' Note the word 'unexpectadly'[/p][/quote]use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ...[/p][/quote]Don't have kids yet, seems you have done everyone a favour[/p][/quote]LOL look at your name.....go sign on boy ... bet u got about 7 kids.. haven't worked a day in your life ! ? ! just like the majority ... Newportsucks85
  • Score: -13

7:35am Wed 21 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

... majority of Newport are claiming benefits ... u see them all day.. bag of carling at 9 a.m in the morning when I am going to work .. , fag smoking mothers pushing kids in push chair to school ... I see Romanians coming to this country working harder than the people born here ... nothing stopping this gentleman becoming self employed car cleaner, window cleaner etc ... whole system is a joke .. get off your lazy **** and earn it ...
... majority of Newport are claiming benefits ... u see them all day.. bag of carling at 9 a.m in the morning when I am going to work .. , fag smoking mothers pushing kids in push chair to school ... I see Romanians coming to this country working harder than the people born here ... nothing stopping this gentleman becoming self employed car cleaner, window cleaner etc ... whole system is a joke .. get off your lazy **** and earn it ... Newportsucks85
  • Score: -7

7:40am Wed 21 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

Dano1967 wrote:
Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes.
Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different.
I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones.
I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual.
Really .. I contribute about £30,000 to £60,000 VAT each quarterly and employ 7 people ... what are you doing that's so great dano ??
[quote][p][bold]Dano1967[/bold] wrote: Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes. Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different. I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones. I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual.[/p][/quote]Really .. I contribute about £30,000 to £60,000 VAT each quarterly and employ 7 people ... what are you doing that's so great dano ?? Newportsucks85
  • Score: -14

1:13pm Wed 21 May 14

-trigg- says...

I would be interested in hearing whether Mr Bennett would be willing to accept a job paying minimum wage, or if he would feel the need to turn it down as the reduction in benefits would make it impractical.

Whether that scenario is down to a pathetically low minimum wage, or unreasonably high benefit payments (or a combination of the two) I would leave for others to decide
I would be interested in hearing whether Mr Bennett would be willing to accept a job paying minimum wage, or if he would feel the need to turn it down as the reduction in benefits would make it impractical. Whether that scenario is down to a pathetically low minimum wage, or unreasonably high benefit payments (or a combination of the two) I would leave for others to decide -trigg-
  • Score: 0

2:45pm Wed 21 May 14

endthelies says...

Hes worked since he was 16 and has only been claiming benefit for 8 months and yet the usual bull comes out on some posts about people on benefits, we are paying for them to have kids blah blah blah. I just wonder does it make one feel better to think you are better than anyone else because you have a job! I just hope that one day these posters find themselves in a position when they have to apply for benefits and then lets see what comments they make. Don't forget, it can happen to anyone. Disability, redundancy etc can happen overnight. Get off this mans case and try and look at things from a different perspective!
Hes worked since he was 16 and has only been claiming benefit for 8 months and yet the usual bull comes out on some posts about people on benefits, we are paying for them to have kids blah blah blah. I just wonder does it make one feel better to think you are better than anyone else because you have a job! I just hope that one day these posters find themselves in a position when they have to apply for benefits and then lets see what comments they make. Don't forget, it can happen to anyone. Disability, redundancy etc can happen overnight. Get off this mans case and try and look at things from a different perspective! endthelies
  • Score: 10

3:37pm Wed 21 May 14

Jimport says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
Dano1967 wrote:
Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes.
Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different.
I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones.
I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual.
Really .. I contribute about £30,000 to £60,000 VAT each quarterly and employ 7 people ... what are you doing that's so great dano ??
How many children do you think people should have? So, if people with children should fall on hard times, what is the maximum number of children that the state should support?
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dano1967[/bold] wrote: Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes. Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different. I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones. I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual.[/p][/quote]Really .. I contribute about £30,000 to £60,000 VAT each quarterly and employ 7 people ... what are you doing that's so great dano ??[/p][/quote]How many children do you think people should have? So, if people with children should fall on hard times, what is the maximum number of children that the state should support? Jimport
  • Score: 3

4:14pm Wed 21 May 14

Dolieboy says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
Dolieboy wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Evil Flanker wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...
Maybe you didn't read the bit that said...

'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.'

Note the word 'unexpectadly'
use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ...
Don't have kids yet, seems you have done everyone a favour
LOL look at your name.....go sign on boy ... bet u got about 7 kids.. haven't worked a day in your life ! ? ! just like the majority ...
Yes LOL, as I am in full time employment, so once again any thought process with you has failed. It's just a name I chose. Could have just as easily have chosen lottery winner.

Never mind, you brighten peoples day with your posts.
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dolieboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Evil Flanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...[/p][/quote]Maybe you didn't read the bit that said... 'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.' Note the word 'unexpectadly'[/p][/quote]use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ...[/p][/quote]Don't have kids yet, seems you have done everyone a favour[/p][/quote]LOL look at your name.....go sign on boy ... bet u got about 7 kids.. haven't worked a day in your life ! ? ! just like the majority ...[/p][/quote]Yes LOL, as I am in full time employment, so once again any thought process with you has failed. It's just a name I chose. Could have just as easily have chosen lottery winner. Never mind, you brighten peoples day with your posts. Dolieboy
  • Score: 8

5:26pm Wed 21 May 14

El Chapo says...

Dee-Gee wrote:
El Chapo wrote:
I have one child and my wife and I may have another. But guess what, we will not have anymore after the second because I want to ensure that I am able to financially provide for my family in everyway - home, holidays, food, comforts.

I hope this guy finds a job but honestly having 5 kids that you cannot afford is extremely irresponsible and the future tragedy is that it is highly possible that his kids will go on and do the same.

The UK is the softest nation in the world
I assume you'll be having an abortion in the event of a contraception failure, then?
:)
Unlikely Dee-Gee. Let us cross that bridge if we ever get there.

Back to the sob story.

Let's all agree that baby number 5 was 'unexpected'

It is still irresponsible to have 4 kids when you are relying on government money to support them. Or was number 4 unexpected too?
[quote][p][bold]Dee-Gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Chapo[/bold] wrote: I have one child and my wife and I may have another. But guess what, we will not have anymore after the second because I want to ensure that I am able to financially provide for my family in everyway - home, holidays, food, comforts. I hope this guy finds a job but honestly having 5 kids that you cannot afford is extremely irresponsible and the future tragedy is that it is highly possible that his kids will go on and do the same. The UK is the softest nation in the world[/p][/quote]I assume you'll be having an abortion in the event of a contraception failure, then?[/p][/quote]:) Unlikely Dee-Gee. Let us cross that bridge if we ever get there. Back to the sob story. Let's all agree that baby number 5 was 'unexpected' It is still irresponsible to have 4 kids when you are relying on government money to support them. Or was number 4 unexpected too? El Chapo
  • Score: -2

5:46pm Wed 21 May 14

El Chapo says...

endthelies wrote:
Hes worked since he was 16 and has only been claiming benefit for 8 months and yet the usual bull comes out on some posts about people on benefits, we are paying for them to have kids blah blah blah. I just wonder does it make one feel better to think you are better than anyone else because you have a job! I just hope that one day these posters find themselves in a position when they have to apply for benefits and then lets see what comments they make. Don't forget, it can happen to anyone. Disability, redundancy etc can happen overnight. Get off this mans case and try and look at things from a different perspective!
Fair comment in part but you are forgetting that he was the official child minder and/or baby sitter and his wife was bread winner. For how many years it didn't say but I'm guessing it was a while with his one kid being 14 years old.

so he was claiming job seekers for 8 months and his family have been claiming everything else for at least 14 years and probably longer.

endthelies the reality and bottom line of this story is that it is not a sob story, it is the Argus trying to create one because they are short of news and this guy decided not to get the bus to drop his CV off. Mr Bennett tried his luck and not surprisingly didn't think of the consequences (no surprise there).

Anyone thinking this sob story is genuine and this guy and his family are hard done by please wake up it's embarrassing and Argus please don't grab and print the first possible sob story that comes your way research and consider the reaction when people that have worked all of their lives, paid taxes and never bled the system dry read it.

benefits are there for the needy not the greedy (I stole that quote from one of you)

The UK is the softest nation in the world.
[quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: Hes worked since he was 16 and has only been claiming benefit for 8 months and yet the usual bull comes out on some posts about people on benefits, we are paying for them to have kids blah blah blah. I just wonder does it make one feel better to think you are better than anyone else because you have a job! I just hope that one day these posters find themselves in a position when they have to apply for benefits and then lets see what comments they make. Don't forget, it can happen to anyone. Disability, redundancy etc can happen overnight. Get off this mans case and try and look at things from a different perspective![/p][/quote]Fair comment in part but you are forgetting that he was the official child minder and/or baby sitter and his wife was bread winner. For how many years it didn't say but I'm guessing it was a while with his one kid being 14 years old. so he was claiming job seekers for 8 months and his family have been claiming everything else for at least 14 years and probably longer. endthelies the reality and bottom line of this story is that it is not a sob story, it is the Argus trying to create one because they are short of news and this guy decided not to get the bus to drop his CV off. Mr Bennett tried his luck and not surprisingly didn't think of the consequences (no surprise there). Anyone thinking this sob story is genuine and this guy and his family are hard done by please wake up it's embarrassing and Argus please don't grab and print the first possible sob story that comes your way research and consider the reaction when people that have worked all of their lives, paid taxes and never bled the system dry read it. benefits are there for the needy not the greedy (I stole that quote from one of you) The UK is the softest nation in the world. El Chapo
  • Score: -1

6:56pm Wed 21 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

Dolieboy wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Dolieboy wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Evil Flanker wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...
Maybe you didn't read the bit that said...

'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.'

Note the word 'unexpectadly'
use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ...
Don't have kids yet, seems you have done everyone a favour
LOL look at your name.....go sign on boy ... bet u got about 7 kids.. haven't worked a day in your life ! ? ! just like the majority ...
Yes LOL, as I am in full time employment, so once again any thought process with you has failed. It's just a name I chose. Could have just as easily have chosen lottery winner.

Never mind, you brighten peoples day with your posts.
Course mate ... I was up at 6 am posting on here ... what time u roll out of bed mate ?
[quote][p][bold]Dolieboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dolieboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Evil Flanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...[/p][/quote]Maybe you didn't read the bit that said... 'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.' Note the word 'unexpectadly'[/p][/quote]use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ...[/p][/quote]Don't have kids yet, seems you have done everyone a favour[/p][/quote]LOL look at your name.....go sign on boy ... bet u got about 7 kids.. haven't worked a day in your life ! ? ! just like the majority ...[/p][/quote]Yes LOL, as I am in full time employment, so once again any thought process with you has failed. It's just a name I chose. Could have just as easily have chosen lottery winner. Never mind, you brighten peoples day with your posts.[/p][/quote]Course mate ... I was up at 6 am posting on here ... what time u roll out of bed mate ? Newportsucks85
  • Score: -6

6:58pm Wed 21 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

Jimport wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Dano1967 wrote:
Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes.
Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different.
I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones.
I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual.
Really .. I contribute about £30,000 to £60,000 VAT each quarterly and employ 7 people ... what are you doing that's so great dano ??
How many children do you think people should have? So, if people with children should fall on hard times, what is the maximum number of children that the state should support?
if I had it my way no one would have benefits .. if u cant afford to have children don't have them quite simple ..... lets go back to survival of the fittest I wouldn't be arguing with half off you .....
[quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dano1967[/bold] wrote: Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes. Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different. I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones. I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual.[/p][/quote]Really .. I contribute about £30,000 to £60,000 VAT each quarterly and employ 7 people ... what are you doing that's so great dano ??[/p][/quote]How many children do you think people should have? So, if people with children should fall on hard times, what is the maximum number of children that the state should support?[/p][/quote]if I had it my way no one would have benefits .. if u cant afford to have children don't have them quite simple ..... lets go back to survival of the fittest I wouldn't be arguing with half off you ..... Newportsucks85
  • Score: -5

7:01pm Wed 21 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...
Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ... Newportsucks85
  • Score: -8

9:19pm Wed 21 May 14

Jimport says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
Jimport wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Dano1967 wrote:
Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes.
Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different.
I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones.
I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual.
Really .. I contribute about £30,000 to £60,000 VAT each quarterly and employ 7 people ... what are you doing that's so great dano ??
How many children do you think people should have? So, if people with children should fall on hard times, what is the maximum number of children that the state should support?
if I had it my way no one would have benefits .. if u cant afford to have children don't have them quite simple ..... lets go back to survival of the fittest I wouldn't be arguing with half off you .....
You would see children starve to death?
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dano1967[/bold] wrote: Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes. Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different. I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones. I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual.[/p][/quote]Really .. I contribute about £30,000 to £60,000 VAT each quarterly and employ 7 people ... what are you doing that's so great dano ??[/p][/quote]How many children do you think people should have? So, if people with children should fall on hard times, what is the maximum number of children that the state should support?[/p][/quote]if I had it my way no one would have benefits .. if u cant afford to have children don't have them quite simple ..... lets go back to survival of the fittest I wouldn't be arguing with half off you .....[/p][/quote]You would see children starve to death? Jimport
  • Score: 3

9:56pm Wed 21 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

Jimport wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Jimport wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Dano1967 wrote:
Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes.
Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different.
I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones.
I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual.
Really .. I contribute about £30,000 to £60,000 VAT each quarterly and employ 7 people ... what are you doing that's so great dano ??
How many children do you think people should have? So, if people with children should fall on hard times, what is the maximum number of children that the state should support?
if I had it my way no one would have benefits .. if u cant afford to have children don't have them quite simple ..... lets go back to survival of the fittest I wouldn't be arguing with half off you .....
You would see children starve to death?
its happening daily, in different countries...
[quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dano1967[/bold] wrote: Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes. Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different. I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones. I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual.[/p][/quote]Really .. I contribute about £30,000 to £60,000 VAT each quarterly and employ 7 people ... what are you doing that's so great dano ??[/p][/quote]How many children do you think people should have? So, if people with children should fall on hard times, what is the maximum number of children that the state should support?[/p][/quote]if I had it my way no one would have benefits .. if u cant afford to have children don't have them quite simple ..... lets go back to survival of the fittest I wouldn't be arguing with half off you .....[/p][/quote]You would see children starve to death?[/p][/quote]its happening daily, in different countries... Newportsucks85
  • Score: -1

11:09pm Wed 21 May 14

Jimport says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
Jimport wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Jimport wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Dano1967 wrote:
Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes.
Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different.
I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones.
I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual.
Really .. I contribute about £30,000 to £60,000 VAT each quarterly and employ 7 people ... what are you doing that's so great dano ??
How many children do you think people should have? So, if people with children should fall on hard times, what is the maximum number of children that the state should support?
if I had it my way no one would have benefits .. if u cant afford to have children don't have them quite simple ..... lets go back to survival of the fittest I wouldn't be arguing with half off you .....
You would see children starve to death?
its happening daily, in different countries...
But you are actively advocating a policy which would mean that a working person with 3 children, for example, would, if they were made redundant and lost everything, face the very real prospect of squalor, illness, hunger, disease and death, right?
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dano1967[/bold] wrote: Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes. Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different. I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones. I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual.[/p][/quote]Really .. I contribute about £30,000 to £60,000 VAT each quarterly and employ 7 people ... what are you doing that's so great dano ??[/p][/quote]How many children do you think people should have? So, if people with children should fall on hard times, what is the maximum number of children that the state should support?[/p][/quote]if I had it my way no one would have benefits .. if u cant afford to have children don't have them quite simple ..... lets go back to survival of the fittest I wouldn't be arguing with half off you .....[/p][/quote]You would see children starve to death?[/p][/quote]its happening daily, in different countries...[/p][/quote]But you are actively advocating a policy which would mean that a working person with 3 children, for example, would, if they were made redundant and lost everything, face the very real prospect of squalor, illness, hunger, disease and death, right? Jimport
  • Score: 4

12:50am Thu 22 May 14

El Chapo says...

Jimport wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Jimport wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Jimport wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Dano1967 wrote:
Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes.
Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different.
I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones.
I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual.
Really .. I contribute about £30,000 to £60,000 VAT each quarterly and employ 7 people ... what are you doing that's so great dano ??
How many children do you think people should have? So, if people with children should fall on hard times, what is the maximum number of children that the state should support?
if I had it my way no one would have benefits .. if u cant afford to have children don't have them quite simple ..... lets go back to survival of the fittest I wouldn't be arguing with half off you .....
You would see children starve to death?
its happening daily, in different countries...
But you are actively advocating a policy which would mean that a working person with 3 children, for example, would, if they were made redundant and lost everything, face the very real prospect of squalor, illness, hunger, disease and death, right?
Jimport
I think that the sensible mans point is that people should be making conscious decisions about how many children they have based on their present and probable future circumstances.

Mr Bennett has taken the absolute mick out of the state and he and his wife should be ashamed. All this story does is highlight how dumb the Bennetts are by promoting their story and thinking that there is nothing wrong with it.

Here is an example of how the benefit system should work for hard working people - If a family bread winner was sensible and consciously chose to have 3 kids with his partner/wife and knew they could afford them then this unfortunate blip of him losing his job is just temporary and he will be able to recover and continue providing for his family when he finds a new one. The benefit system steps in and supports this man and his family in their hour of need and continues to until they can get back on their feet financially. His government support is temporary and deserved after all of the tax he has paid and will continue to pay in the future.

In poor countries support is not available like it is here and if people have lots of children they end up living in awful conditions and spend each day trying to survive by any means necessary. These poor people may not even have access to contraception and are often victims of rape due to lack of law enforcement in their often run down isolated villages or dangerous areas. The poorest in the world are living tragic lives and there is nobody to give them SKY TV and a pack of 20 Lambert.

The typical UK dole bum does not have any excuses, they take advantage of this soft country's benefit system and know they will never have to starve or worry about not having a roof over their heads.

The UK is the softest nation on earth and dole bums, benefit cheats and life's wasters should count themselves very lucky they are allowed to get away with it.
[quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dano1967[/bold] wrote: Good on him I say. That's what I would do if I was in his shoes. Condescending posts from Newportsucks85, who hasn't even helped produce the children this country needs to contribute to his pension (this must be why our species is devolving), and spends most of his day posting troll comments on here, won't make me think any different. I have witnessed a lot of friends hit hard times in the last few years and I have been one of the lucky ones. I have no doubt this man will find work soon as he obviously is a single minded and determined individual.[/p][/quote]Really .. I contribute about £30,000 to £60,000 VAT each quarterly and employ 7 people ... what are you doing that's so great dano ??[/p][/quote]How many children do you think people should have? So, if people with children should fall on hard times, what is the maximum number of children that the state should support?[/p][/quote]if I had it my way no one would have benefits .. if u cant afford to have children don't have them quite simple ..... lets go back to survival of the fittest I wouldn't be arguing with half off you .....[/p][/quote]You would see children starve to death?[/p][/quote]its happening daily, in different countries...[/p][/quote]But you are actively advocating a policy which would mean that a working person with 3 children, for example, would, if they were made redundant and lost everything, face the very real prospect of squalor, illness, hunger, disease and death, right?[/p][/quote]Jimport I think that the sensible mans point is that people should be making conscious decisions about how many children they have based on their present and probable future circumstances. Mr Bennett has taken the absolute mick out of the state and he and his wife should be ashamed. All this story does is highlight how dumb the Bennetts are by promoting their story and thinking that there is nothing wrong with it. Here is an example of how the benefit system should work for hard working people - If a family bread winner was sensible and consciously chose to have 3 kids with his partner/wife and knew they could afford them then this unfortunate blip of him losing his job is just temporary and he will be able to recover and continue providing for his family when he finds a new one. The benefit system steps in and supports this man and his family in their hour of need and continues to until they can get back on their feet financially. His government support is temporary and deserved after all of the tax he has paid and will continue to pay in the future. In poor countries support is not available like it is here and if people have lots of children they end up living in awful conditions and spend each day trying to survive by any means necessary. These poor people may not even have access to contraception and are often victims of rape due to lack of law enforcement in their often run down isolated villages or dangerous areas. The poorest in the world are living tragic lives and there is nobody to give them SKY TV and a pack of 20 Lambert. The typical UK dole bum does not have any excuses, they take advantage of this soft country's benefit system and know they will never have to starve or worry about not having a roof over their heads. The UK is the softest nation on earth and dole bums, benefit cheats and life's wasters should count themselves very lucky they are allowed to get away with it. El Chapo
  • Score: 8

10:46am Thu 22 May 14

endthelies says...

And the majority of the people in those countries are poverty stricken, dying from disease and starvation and yet they still have children. Many of whom are left without parents, scrounging on rubbish tips. Now, if our country did happen to be like that, you would be one of these people too, as wages are meagre, no matter how hard you work. There is a very small percentage of wealthier folk, very,very small indeed. Thank your lucky stars you do not live in one of these third world countries.
I don't think you've read the particle properly. This man did hit a 'blip' as you like to call it. He DID work but when that was no longer available, his wife decided that her prospects of findng work was better than his. Unfortunately, or fortunately, whichever way you look at it, she became pregnant and therefore her work prospects diminished which left him seeking employment in an area rife with unemployment. He was not a 'doley' or a scrounger.
And the majority of the people in those countries are poverty stricken, dying from disease and starvation and yet they still have children. Many of whom are left without parents, scrounging on rubbish tips. Now, if our country did happen to be like that, you would be one of these people too, as wages are meagre, no matter how hard you work. There is a very small percentage of wealthier folk, very,very small indeed. Thank your lucky stars you do not live in one of these third world countries. I don't think you've read the particle properly. This man did hit a 'blip' as you like to call it. He DID work but when that was no longer available, his wife decided that her prospects of findng work was better than his. Unfortunately, or fortunately, whichever way you look at it, she became pregnant and therefore her work prospects diminished which left him seeking employment in an area rife with unemployment. He was not a 'doley' or a scrounger. endthelies
  • Score: 3

12:50pm Thu 22 May 14

squirrelchez says...

It's comment threads like this that make people like that young chap the other day do what they do.
Unfortunately for him, he was too proud to claim benefits, and hanged himself because he couldn't find a job.
If there wasn't such a stigma about claiming help in times of need, things like that wouldn't happen.
I agree that some people do take the mick and will claim just for the sake of it, and I wish that it wasn't so easy to get some benefits, but you're attacking this bloke despite the fact that he's making an effort to get a job.
So what if he has 5 kids - he's worked for around 16 years before finding himself in a situation where he needs to claim JSA. Now he's doing his best to get off it.
And before someone like Newportsucks85 starts suggesting I'm on benefit with god knows how many kids, I work full-time and don't have children yet. But I know that if I were made redundant, that I could get some help. Isn't that what it's SUPPOSED to be? Help. Not an entitlement or a right, but help in times of need. Which this guy needs at the moment. Give him a break.
It's comment threads like this that make people like that young chap the other day do what they do. Unfortunately for him, he was too proud to claim benefits, and hanged himself because he couldn't find a job. If there wasn't such a stigma about claiming help in times of need, things like that wouldn't happen. I agree that some people do take the mick and will claim just for the sake of it, and I wish that it wasn't so easy to get some benefits, but you're attacking this bloke despite the fact that he's making an effort to get a job. So what if he has 5 kids - he's worked for around 16 years before finding himself in a situation where he needs to claim JSA. Now he's doing his best to get off it. And before someone like Newportsucks85 starts suggesting I'm on benefit with god knows how many kids, I work full-time and don't have children yet. But I know that if I were made redundant, that I could get some help. Isn't that what it's SUPPOSED to be? Help. Not an entitlement or a right, but help in times of need. Which this guy needs at the moment. Give him a break. squirrelchez
  • Score: 2

2:20pm Thu 22 May 14

Good Job No Kids says...

Evil Flanker wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...
Maybe you didn't read the bit that said...

'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.'

Note the word 'unexpectadly'
They did have four already, not exactly ideal for low earners, and they should have been more careful.
[quote][p][bold]Evil Flanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...[/p][/quote]Maybe you didn't read the bit that said... 'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.' Note the word 'unexpectadly'[/p][/quote]They did have four already, not exactly ideal for low earners, and they should have been more careful. Good Job No Kids
  • Score: 0

2:26pm Thu 22 May 14

Good Job No Kids says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Unless you have contacts in high places, know the right people and went to the right school it's extremely hard to get a decent job in Britain - probably the most classist, deferential, secretivie and nepotistic country in the world. It's literally not what you know but whom you know - which goes some way to explain why the country is in such a mess. Good luck to this gentleman - remember through all the rejections that you're much better than some pointless and gutless mediocrity in a suit. Also, kudos to him for having the courage to defy the sexist gender stereotypes and staying at home to look after the kids when his wife was working.
What a bitter and twisted individual you are, I pity you.

I got where I am through hard work and on merit, I didn't have any contacts in the industry or get any help at all in any avenue of journey to present day.

Don't judge everyone by your standards.
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Unless you have contacts in high places, know the right people and went to the right school it's extremely hard to get a decent job in Britain - probably the most classist, deferential, secretivie and nepotistic country in the world. It's literally not what you know but whom you know - which goes some way to explain why the country is in such a mess. Good luck to this gentleman - remember through all the rejections that you're much better than some pointless and gutless mediocrity in a suit. Also, kudos to him for having the courage to defy the sexist gender stereotypes and staying at home to look after the kids when his wife was working.[/p][/quote]What a bitter and twisted individual you are, I pity you. I got where I am through hard work and on merit, I didn't have any contacts in the industry or get any help at all in any avenue of journey to present day. Don't judge everyone by your standards. Good Job No Kids
  • Score: 3

3:02pm Thu 22 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

squirrelchez wrote:
It's comment threads like this that make people like that young chap the other day do what they do.
Unfortunately for him, he was too proud to claim benefits, and hanged himself because he couldn't find a job.
If there wasn't such a stigma about claiming help in times of need, things like that wouldn't happen.
I agree that some people do take the mick and will claim just for the sake of it, and I wish that it wasn't so easy to get some benefits, but you're attacking this bloke despite the fact that he's making an effort to get a job.
So what if he has 5 kids - he's worked for around 16 years before finding himself in a situation where he needs to claim JSA. Now he's doing his best to get off it.
And before someone like Newportsucks85 starts suggesting I'm on benefit with god knows how many kids, I work full-time and don't have children yet. But I know that if I were made redundant, that I could get some help. Isn't that what it's SUPPOSED to be? Help. Not an entitlement or a right, but help in times of need. Which this guy needs at the moment. Give him a break.
Why should any of us deserve benefits .. if you was born as a bird , rat, its down to you to look after your offspring , fend for yourself... that's the way the world has worked before we came along ... stop being so soft ... the government takes more money from the people than all the scroungers put together... if u all think the world is supposed to be easy your wrong ...life is supposed to be hard.. the hard environment produce's harder offspring ... during ww2 we advanced 50 years in evolution because we where on the brink of extinction......
[quote][p][bold]squirrelchez[/bold] wrote: It's comment threads like this that make people like that young chap the other day do what they do. Unfortunately for him, he was too proud to claim benefits, and hanged himself because he couldn't find a job. If there wasn't such a stigma about claiming help in times of need, things like that wouldn't happen. I agree that some people do take the mick and will claim just for the sake of it, and I wish that it wasn't so easy to get some benefits, but you're attacking this bloke despite the fact that he's making an effort to get a job. So what if he has 5 kids - he's worked for around 16 years before finding himself in a situation where he needs to claim JSA. Now he's doing his best to get off it. And before someone like Newportsucks85 starts suggesting I'm on benefit with god knows how many kids, I work full-time and don't have children yet. But I know that if I were made redundant, that I could get some help. Isn't that what it's SUPPOSED to be? Help. Not an entitlement or a right, but help in times of need. Which this guy needs at the moment. Give him a break.[/p][/quote]Why should any of us deserve benefits .. if you was born as a bird , rat, its down to you to look after your offspring , fend for yourself... that's the way the world has worked before we came along ... stop being so soft ... the government takes more money from the people than all the scroungers put together... if u all think the world is supposed to be easy your wrong ...life is supposed to be hard.. the hard environment produce's harder offspring ... during ww2 we advanced 50 years in evolution because we where on the brink of extinction...... Newportsucks85
  • Score: -5

3:25pm Thu 22 May 14

KARENBUCK says...

This person is looking for a job not asking for benefits !! No matter how many children he has !! Pity there weren't more people who go out of their way for a job, trouble is there are none out there !!
This person is looking for a job not asking for benefits !! No matter how many children he has !! Pity there weren't more people who go out of their way for a job, trouble is there are none out there !! KARENBUCK
  • Score: -1

5:03pm Thu 22 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

KARENBUCK wrote:
This person is looking for a job not asking for benefits !! No matter how many children he has !! Pity there weren't more people who go out of their way for a job, trouble is there are none out there !!
Grab a pair of garden shears walk up and down your street someone will need a hedge cut its not rocket science ........
[quote][p][bold]KARENBUCK[/bold] wrote: This person is looking for a job not asking for benefits !! No matter how many children he has !! Pity there weren't more people who go out of their way for a job, trouble is there are none out there !![/p][/quote]Grab a pair of garden shears walk up and down your street someone will need a hedge cut its not rocket science ........ Newportsucks85
  • Score: 1

5:27pm Thu 22 May 14

Independentvoter says...

KARENBUCK wrote:
This person is looking for a job not asking for benefits !! No matter how many children he has !! Pity there weren't more people who go out of their way for a job, trouble is there are none out there !!
As I said before who has knocked my door in 4 years asking if I want my windows or car cleaned - my grass or hedges cut ??? Answer ? no one.

There are jobs out there if you want one and you are not afraid of doing some work !!! Problem is it might entail getting your hands dirty !
[quote][p][bold]KARENBUCK[/bold] wrote: This person is looking for a job not asking for benefits !! No matter how many children he has !! Pity there weren't more people who go out of their way for a job, trouble is there are none out there !![/p][/quote]As I said before who has knocked my door in 4 years asking if I want my windows or car cleaned - my grass or hedges cut ??? Answer ? no one. There are jobs out there if you want one and you are not afraid of doing some work !!! Problem is it might entail getting your hands dirty ! Independentvoter
  • Score: 1

6:29pm Thu 22 May 14

endthelies says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
KARENBUCK wrote:
This person is looking for a job not asking for benefits !! No matter how many children he has !! Pity there weren't more people who go out of their way for a job, trouble is there are none out there !!
Grab a pair of garden shears walk up and down your street someone will need a hedge cut its not rocket science ........
what happens in the winter!! and how many times a year does someone need their hedge cut and how much does it pay. Its easy to say grab a shears and go and do it but it has to be a wage that will keep a family and that is a reliable wage. Please be realistic.
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KARENBUCK[/bold] wrote: This person is looking for a job not asking for benefits !! No matter how many children he has !! Pity there weren't more people who go out of their way for a job, trouble is there are none out there !![/p][/quote]Grab a pair of garden shears walk up and down your street someone will need a hedge cut its not rocket science ........[/p][/quote]what happens in the winter!! and how many times a year does someone need their hedge cut and how much does it pay. Its easy to say grab a shears and go and do it but it has to be a wage that will keep a family and that is a reliable wage. Please be realistic. endthelies
  • Score: 1

7:21pm Thu 22 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
KARENBUCK wrote:
This person is looking for a job not asking for benefits !! No matter how many children he has !! Pity there weren't more people who go out of their way for a job, trouble is there are none out there !!
Grab a pair of garden shears walk up and down your street someone will need a hedge cut its not rocket science ........
what happens in the winter!! and how many times a year does someone need their hedge cut and how much does it pay. Its easy to say grab a shears and go and do it but it has to be a wage that will keep a family and that is a reliable wage. Please be realistic.
Have I got to think off everything and get you all on the road to earning money ??? I know a person who uses a bicycle .. with a trailer .. collects old scrap metal.. I have seen him knee deep in a river pulling crap out .... I asked him how much he earns he told me 40 -100 £ a day depending on what he finds .... this is not a seasonal occupation either I am pretty sure u can collect all year round ....
[quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KARENBUCK[/bold] wrote: This person is looking for a job not asking for benefits !! No matter how many children he has !! Pity there weren't more people who go out of their way for a job, trouble is there are none out there !![/p][/quote]Grab a pair of garden shears walk up and down your street someone will need a hedge cut its not rocket science ........[/p][/quote]what happens in the winter!! and how many times a year does someone need their hedge cut and how much does it pay. Its easy to say grab a shears and go and do it but it has to be a wage that will keep a family and that is a reliable wage. Please be realistic.[/p][/quote]Have I got to think off everything and get you all on the road to earning money ??? I know a person who uses a bicycle .. with a trailer .. collects old scrap metal.. I have seen him knee deep in a river pulling crap out .... I asked him how much he earns he told me 40 -100 £ a day depending on what he finds .... this is not a seasonal occupation either I am pretty sure u can collect all year round .... Newportsucks85
  • Score: 0

7:36pm Thu 22 May 14

endthelies says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
KARENBUCK wrote:
This person is looking for a job not asking for benefits !! No matter how many children he has !! Pity there weren't more people who go out of their way for a job, trouble is there are none out there !!
Grab a pair of garden shears walk up and down your street someone will need a hedge cut its not rocket science ........
what happens in the winter!! and how many times a year does someone need their hedge cut and how much does it pay. Its easy to say grab a shears and go and do it but it has to be a wage that will keep a family and that is a reliable wage. Please be realistic.
Have I got to think off everything and get you all on the road to earning money ??? I know a person who uses a bicycle .. with a trailer .. collects old scrap metal.. I have seen him knee deep in a river pulling crap out .... I asked him how much he earns he told me 40 -100 £ a day depending on what he finds .... this is not a seasonal occupation either I am pretty sure u can collect all year round ....
well that a little different from grabbing a shears isn't it? Lets just hope there's enough scrap around for every unemployed person to make a living wage from!! (p's. Ive had 'scrap metal dealers' actually come in my garden to try and take things without my permission and I think that's called theft.)
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KARENBUCK[/bold] wrote: This person is looking for a job not asking for benefits !! No matter how many children he has !! Pity there weren't more people who go out of their way for a job, trouble is there are none out there !![/p][/quote]Grab a pair of garden shears walk up and down your street someone will need a hedge cut its not rocket science ........[/p][/quote]what happens in the winter!! and how many times a year does someone need their hedge cut and how much does it pay. Its easy to say grab a shears and go and do it but it has to be a wage that will keep a family and that is a reliable wage. Please be realistic.[/p][/quote]Have I got to think off everything and get you all on the road to earning money ??? I know a person who uses a bicycle .. with a trailer .. collects old scrap metal.. I have seen him knee deep in a river pulling crap out .... I asked him how much he earns he told me 40 -100 £ a day depending on what he finds .... this is not a seasonal occupation either I am pretty sure u can collect all year round ....[/p][/quote]well that a little different from grabbing a shears isn't it? Lets just hope there's enough scrap around for every unemployed person to make a living wage from!! (p's. Ive had 'scrap metal dealers' actually come in my garden to try and take things without my permission and I think that's called theft.) endthelies
  • Score: 0

7:44pm Thu 22 May 14

endthelies says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...
And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...[/p][/quote]And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves? endthelies
  • Score: 4

7:44pm Thu 22 May 14

jimmysmith says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
Evil Flanker wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...
Maybe you didn't read the bit that said...

'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.'

Note the word 'unexpectadly'
use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ...
reading through your posts ,got me thinking to myself ,i know this guy from some where ,but where ? no hes not that dope smoking paranoid loony always ranting about others not so fortunate as himself ,from the BBC and no hes not david davies ,either , then it hit me ,i know who you are ,your that american wrestler .Mr Perfect ..And what an arrogant pratt he is
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Evil Flanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...[/p][/quote]Maybe you didn't read the bit that said... 'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.' Note the word 'unexpectadly'[/p][/quote]use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ...[/p][/quote]reading through your posts ,got me thinking to myself ,i know this guy from some where ,but where ? no hes not that dope smoking paranoid loony always ranting about others not so fortunate as himself ,from the BBC and no hes not david davies ,either , then it hit me ,i know who you are ,your that american wrestler .Mr Perfect ..And what an arrogant pratt he is jimmysmith
  • Score: 1

4:47am Fri 23 May 14

El Chapo says...

I'm guessing newportsucks85 is regularly on this website because he has a lot of haters. I don't think his views on this particular story are that out of line.

I know a woman 38 years old lives in Newport. She has not worked since she was 20. She had her first child at 20, the next at 25 and another at 37, 3 different fathers.

I remember a conversation I had with her a while ago and she was telling me how great life was and she meets up with other mothers over the local pub garden twice a week with the kids and sips rosé. When she was telling me this I was thinking, I spend 50 hours a week in work and I am bloody miserable.

Will she ever work again? She is still young.

Who is allowing her and others to get away with this?

Should she have been told by the authorities to not have any more kids after baby No 2 was also being supported by the state? This reads harsh at first but seriously isn't she breaking the law behaving this irresponsibly? she has and still is costing the tax payer tens of thousands of pounds and does not care, in fact she thinks it's great? or would any intervention to have stopped her having baby No 3 go against her human rights?

I believe my story above and Mr Bennetts are examples of people behaving so irresponsibly that the government should be able to intervene when necessary. The scary thing is there are millions of cases like theirs around the UK and until the government toughens up on benefit scrounging baby making machines they will continue to milk the state for every penny they can.

I will let you know if she squeezes out baby No 4 and if there is a 4th father.

Argus, these are the stories you should be finding for your paper, how much are these scroungers costing the tax payers per year. Instead of being the benefit supporters paper try being the taxpayers paper, you may sell more copies!

The UK really is the softest nation in the world.
I'm guessing newportsucks85 is regularly on this website because he has a lot of haters. I don't think his views on this particular story are that out of line. I know a woman 38 years old lives in Newport. She has not worked since she was 20. She had her first child at 20, the next at 25 and another at 37, 3 different fathers. I remember a conversation I had with her a while ago and she was telling me how great life was and she meets up with other mothers over the local pub garden twice a week with the kids and sips rosé. When she was telling me this I was thinking, I spend 50 hours a week in work and I am bloody miserable. Will she ever work again? She is still young. Who is allowing her and others to get away with this? Should she have been told by the authorities to not have any more kids after baby No 2 was also being supported by the state? This reads harsh at first but seriously isn't she breaking the law behaving this irresponsibly? she has and still is costing the tax payer tens of thousands of pounds and does not care, in fact she thinks it's great? or would any intervention to have stopped her having baby No 3 go against her human rights? I believe my story above and Mr Bennetts are examples of people behaving so irresponsibly that the government should be able to intervene when necessary. The scary thing is there are millions of cases like theirs around the UK and until the government toughens up on benefit scrounging baby making machines they will continue to milk the state for every penny they can. I will let you know if she squeezes out baby No 4 and if there is a 4th father. Argus, these are the stories you should be finding for your paper, how much are these scroungers costing the tax payers per year. Instead of being the benefit supporters paper try being the taxpayers paper, you may sell more copies! The UK really is the softest nation in the world. El Chapo
  • Score: -1

8:44am Fri 23 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
KARENBUCK wrote:
This person is looking for a job not asking for benefits !! No matter how many children he has !! Pity there weren't more people who go out of their way for a job, trouble is there are none out there !!
Grab a pair of garden shears walk up and down your street someone will need a hedge cut its not rocket science ........
what happens in the winter!! and how many times a year does someone need their hedge cut and how much does it pay. Its easy to say grab a shears and go and do it but it has to be a wage that will keep a family and that is a reliable wage. Please be realistic.
Have I got to think off everything and get you all on the road to earning money ??? I know a person who uses a bicycle .. with a trailer .. collects old scrap metal.. I have seen him knee deep in a river pulling crap out .... I asked him how much he earns he told me 40 -100 £ a day depending on what he finds .... this is not a seasonal occupation either I am pretty sure u can collect all year round ....
well that a little different from grabbing a shears isn't it? Lets just hope there's enough scrap around for every unemployed person to make a living wage from!! (p's. Ive had 'scrap metal dealers' actually come in my garden to try and take things without my permission and I think that's called theft.)
You have clearly decided this is all ready too much hard work ... this is the problem with most .. get out and earn it .. its there to be made if u want it ...
[quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]KARENBUCK[/bold] wrote: This person is looking for a job not asking for benefits !! No matter how many children he has !! Pity there weren't more people who go out of their way for a job, trouble is there are none out there !![/p][/quote]Grab a pair of garden shears walk up and down your street someone will need a hedge cut its not rocket science ........[/p][/quote]what happens in the winter!! and how many times a year does someone need their hedge cut and how much does it pay. Its easy to say grab a shears and go and do it but it has to be a wage that will keep a family and that is a reliable wage. Please be realistic.[/p][/quote]Have I got to think off everything and get you all on the road to earning money ??? I know a person who uses a bicycle .. with a trailer .. collects old scrap metal.. I have seen him knee deep in a river pulling crap out .... I asked him how much he earns he told me 40 -100 £ a day depending on what he finds .... this is not a seasonal occupation either I am pretty sure u can collect all year round ....[/p][/quote]well that a little different from grabbing a shears isn't it? Lets just hope there's enough scrap around for every unemployed person to make a living wage from!! (p's. Ive had 'scrap metal dealers' actually come in my garden to try and take things without my permission and I think that's called theft.)[/p][/quote]You have clearly decided this is all ready too much hard work ... this is the problem with most .. get out and earn it .. its there to be made if u want it ... Newportsucks85
  • Score: 0

8:45am Fri 23 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...
And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?
where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ...
[quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...[/p][/quote]And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?[/p][/quote]where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ... Newportsucks85
  • Score: -3

8:46am Fri 23 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

jimmysmith wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Evil Flanker wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...
Maybe you didn't read the bit that said...

'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.'

Note the word 'unexpectadly'
use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ...
reading through your posts ,got me thinking to myself ,i know this guy from some where ,but where ? no hes not that dope smoking paranoid loony always ranting about others not so fortunate as himself ,from the BBC and no hes not david davies ,either , then it hit me ,i know who you are ,your that american wrestler .Mr Perfect ..And what an arrogant pratt he is
LOL ... u clearly have lost the plot .....
[quote][p][bold]jimmysmith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Evil Flanker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Why have more children if you cant provide for the ones you got ..... this is what's wrong with society today ..no thought for how the child is going to get fed , people just expect to get given everything they need in this country ... its a joke ... we are de-evolving as a species ..... benefits are for the needy not the greedy ...[/p][/quote]Maybe you didn't read the bit that said... 'after his wife Michelle unexpectedly fell pregnant.' Note the word 'unexpectadly'[/p][/quote]use protection I have been married 11 years i'm younger than the gentleman in question ( I don't have kids yet) .. tell him to keep it in his pants quite simple... all about education yet again ...[/p][/quote]reading through your posts ,got me thinking to myself ,i know this guy from some where ,but where ? no hes not that dope smoking paranoid loony always ranting about others not so fortunate as himself ,from the BBC and no hes not david davies ,either , then it hit me ,i know who you are ,your that american wrestler .Mr Perfect ..And what an arrogant pratt he is[/p][/quote]LOL ... u clearly have lost the plot ..... Newportsucks85
  • Score: -1

9:48am Fri 23 May 14

endthelies says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...
And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?
where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ...
Quote from you 'if we stuck to survival of the fittest' which to me means that people who are not as fit don't survive!! What on earth has that got to do with turning to family when you need help!! What you have quoted is a euthanasia promotion.
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...[/p][/quote]And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?[/p][/quote]where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ...[/p][/quote]Quote from you 'if we stuck to survival of the fittest' which to me means that people who are not as fit don't survive!! What on earth has that got to do with turning to family when you need help!! What you have quoted is a euthanasia promotion. endthelies
  • Score: 0

10:32am Fri 23 May 14

welshmen says...

I Hope he and other British Natives have as many kids as the can, working, or on the Dole, millions of foreigners are coming here doing the same thing and a lot of you are condemning this chap, you seem quite all right with anyone from anywhere coming here with 5-10 kids for free everything, Asians on average have 4-9 children similar to East European Union Immigrants, many of you on here don't compare these foreign breeders to our British Natives, our voting system allows immigrants to vote after a while, who do you think the will vote for? the Party that encourages more immigration, that'll be LAB/LIB/CON/Plaid/Gr
eens/UKIP, you either want more and lose our identity and culture to the hordes of immigrants, or stop them coming here before this Country erupts into civil war....
I Hope he and other British Natives have as many kids as the can, working, or on the Dole, millions of foreigners are coming here doing the same thing and a lot of you are condemning this chap, you seem quite all right with anyone from anywhere coming here with 5-10 kids for free everything, Asians on average have 4-9 children similar to East European Union Immigrants, many of you on here don't compare these foreign breeders to our British Natives, our voting system allows immigrants to vote after a while, who do you think the will vote for? the Party that encourages more immigration, that'll be LAB/LIB/CON/Plaid/Gr eens/UKIP, you either want more and lose our identity and culture to the hordes of immigrants, or stop them coming here before this Country erupts into civil war.... welshmen
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11:08am Fri 23 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...
And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?
where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ...
Quote from you 'if we stuck to survival of the fittest' which to me means that people who are not as fit don't survive!! What on earth has that got to do with turning to family when you need help!! What you have quoted is a euthanasia promotion.
even animals look after there family .. go watch some Attenborough ..... this is turning into a petty argument now... enjoy your day
[quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...[/p][/quote]And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?[/p][/quote]where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ...[/p][/quote]Quote from you 'if we stuck to survival of the fittest' which to me means that people who are not as fit don't survive!! What on earth has that got to do with turning to family when you need help!! What you have quoted is a euthanasia promotion.[/p][/quote]even animals look after there family .. go watch some Attenborough ..... this is turning into a petty argument now... enjoy your day Newportsucks85
  • Score: -2

11:18am Fri 23 May 14

endthelies says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...
And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?
where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ...
Quote from you 'if we stuck to survival of the fittest' which to me means that people who are not as fit don't survive!! What on earth has that got to do with turning to family when you need help!! What you have quoted is a euthanasia promotion.
even animals look after there family .. go watch some Attenborough ..... this is turning into a petty argument now... enjoy your day
Thank you I will. :)
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...[/p][/quote]And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?[/p][/quote]where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ...[/p][/quote]Quote from you 'if we stuck to survival of the fittest' which to me means that people who are not as fit don't survive!! What on earth has that got to do with turning to family when you need help!! What you have quoted is a euthanasia promotion.[/p][/quote]even animals look after there family .. go watch some Attenborough ..... this is turning into a petty argument now... enjoy your day[/p][/quote]Thank you I will. :) endthelies
  • Score: 2

10:18pm Fri 23 May 14

rogers21 says...

El Chapo wrote:
Dee-Gee wrote:
El Chapo wrote: I have one child and my wife and I may have another. But guess what, we will not have anymore after the second because I want to ensure that I am able to financially provide for my family in everyway - home, holidays, food, comforts. I hope this guy finds a job but honestly having 5 kids that you cannot afford is extremely irresponsible and the future tragedy is that it is highly possible that his kids will go on and do the same. The UK is the softest nation in the world
I assume you'll be having an abortion in the event of a contraception failure, then?
:) Unlikely Dee-Gee. Let us cross that bridge if we ever get there. Back to the sob story. Let's all agree that baby number 5 was 'unexpected' It is still irresponsible to have 4 kids when you are relying on government money to support them. Or was number 4 unexpected too?
He has worked since he was 16 he became unemployed when his wife became pregnant nothing states he was unemployed before he had the 5th baby so how can you say he has been feeding his kids off tax payers money. Some people was just brought up the wrong way so they have not got what it takes to find a job/career at least this man is trying. I would say about 99% of people In the u.k would have been on the dole sometime in their life unless their parents are rich.
[quote][p][bold]El Chapo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dee-Gee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]El Chapo[/bold] wrote: I have one child and my wife and I may have another. But guess what, we will not have anymore after the second because I want to ensure that I am able to financially provide for my family in everyway - home, holidays, food, comforts. I hope this guy finds a job but honestly having 5 kids that you cannot afford is extremely irresponsible and the future tragedy is that it is highly possible that his kids will go on and do the same. The UK is the softest nation in the world[/p][/quote]I assume you'll be having an abortion in the event of a contraception failure, then?[/p][/quote]:) Unlikely Dee-Gee. Let us cross that bridge if we ever get there. Back to the sob story. Let's all agree that baby number 5 was 'unexpected' It is still irresponsible to have 4 kids when you are relying on government money to support them. Or was number 4 unexpected too?[/p][/quote]He has worked since he was 16 he became unemployed when his wife became pregnant nothing states he was unemployed before he had the 5th baby so how can you say he has been feeding his kids off tax payers money. Some people was just brought up the wrong way so they have not got what it takes to find a job/career at least this man is trying. I would say about 99% of people In the u.k would have been on the dole sometime in their life unless their parents are rich. rogers21
  • Score: 0

11:58pm Fri 23 May 14

Strider says...

El Chapo wrote:
I'm guessing newportsucks85 is regularly on this website because he has a lot of haters. I don't think his views on this particular story are that out of line.

I know a woman 38 years old lives in Newport. She has not worked since she was 20. She had her first child at 20, the next at 25 and another at 37, 3 different fathers.

I remember a conversation I had with her a while ago and she was telling me how great life was and she meets up with other mothers over the local pub garden twice a week with the kids and sips rosé. When she was telling me this I was thinking, I spend 50 hours a week in work and I am bloody miserable.

Will she ever work again? She is still young.

Who is allowing her and others to get away with this?

Should she have been told by the authorities to not have any more kids after baby No 2 was also being supported by the state? This reads harsh at first but seriously isn't she breaking the law behaving this irresponsibly? she has and still is costing the tax payer tens of thousands of pounds and does not care, in fact she thinks it's great? or would any intervention to have stopped her having baby No 3 go against her human rights?

I believe my story above and Mr Bennetts are examples of people behaving so irresponsibly that the government should be able to intervene when necessary. The scary thing is there are millions of cases like theirs around the UK and until the government toughens up on benefit scrounging baby making machines they will continue to milk the state for every penny they can.

I will let you know if she squeezes out baby No 4 and if there is a 4th father.

Argus, these are the stories you should be finding for your paper, how much are these scroungers costing the tax payers per year. Instead of being the benefit supporters paper try being the taxpayers paper, you may sell more copies!

The UK really is the softest nation in the world.
Not heard of 'Newport Sucks' but one of his haters is a person with multiple sock puppet accounts and whilst online assume the identity of a be-muscled beefcake with 48" chest and IQ to match! These haters resort to straw man arguments and one line posts, as you yourself have witnessed..

Good to read a well written well argued post, an iron fist in a velvet glove so to speak
[quote][p][bold]El Chapo[/bold] wrote: I'm guessing newportsucks85 is regularly on this website because he has a lot of haters. I don't think his views on this particular story are that out of line. I know a woman 38 years old lives in Newport. She has not worked since she was 20. She had her first child at 20, the next at 25 and another at 37, 3 different fathers. I remember a conversation I had with her a while ago and she was telling me how great life was and she meets up with other mothers over the local pub garden twice a week with the kids and sips rosé. When she was telling me this I was thinking, I spend 50 hours a week in work and I am bloody miserable. Will she ever work again? She is still young. Who is allowing her and others to get away with this? Should she have been told by the authorities to not have any more kids after baby No 2 was also being supported by the state? This reads harsh at first but seriously isn't she breaking the law behaving this irresponsibly? she has and still is costing the tax payer tens of thousands of pounds and does not care, in fact she thinks it's great? or would any intervention to have stopped her having baby No 3 go against her human rights? I believe my story above and Mr Bennetts are examples of people behaving so irresponsibly that the government should be able to intervene when necessary. The scary thing is there are millions of cases like theirs around the UK and until the government toughens up on benefit scrounging baby making machines they will continue to milk the state for every penny they can. I will let you know if she squeezes out baby No 4 and if there is a 4th father. Argus, these are the stories you should be finding for your paper, how much are these scroungers costing the tax payers per year. Instead of being the benefit supporters paper try being the taxpayers paper, you may sell more copies! The UK really is the softest nation in the world.[/p][/quote]Not heard of 'Newport Sucks' but one of his haters is a person with multiple sock puppet accounts and whilst online assume the identity of a be-muscled beefcake with 48" chest and IQ to match! These haters resort to straw man arguments and one line posts, as you yourself have witnessed.. Good to read a well written well argued post, an iron fist in a velvet glove so to speak Strider
  • Score: -4

10:24am Sat 24 May 14

endthelies says...

I hop you don't mean me Strider as I can assure you I have one email account, one username and very rarely give one line answers (as most posters on here can verify :) ). If the said poster cannot give a reasonable argument for the posts he chooses to write, then he should stop posting.
I hop you don't mean me Strider as I can assure you I have one email account, one username and very rarely give one line answers (as most posters on here can verify :) ). If the said poster cannot give a reasonable argument for the posts he chooses to write, then he should stop posting. endthelies
  • Score: 3

10:32am Sat 24 May 14

S a m m y says...

I hope none of the haters ever fall upon hard times, I exspect you would never claim any benefits. Wrong!? All of you would do whatever it was for your family weather it be signing on the dole to feed them or working 50 hours a week. Men can move mountains. This is a true story Dashrath MAhnji was forced to watch his wife die because there was a mountin in the way of the hospital, he tried to carry her but she died. After she died he spent 2 decades digging away at the monuntin, untill he reached his goal. He spent 20 years digging to ensure his villagers would never being in the situation he once had been. He reduced the walk to a 1km. The man above didn't let the 16 mile walk keep him from applying for work, he did it he set a goal and achieved it just because the outcome wasn't great doesn't mean he didn't try. Cut the poor man some slack! If he didn't won't to work he wouldn't be so desperate to get his story heard. I've worked since I finished school and never signed on before, if I was to loose my job I would have no shame in signing on, the government are not just there for people who don't won't to work as your minds are programmed to think. Show some respect for this man as one day he will move mountains.
I hope none of the haters ever fall upon hard times, I exspect you would never claim any benefits. Wrong!? All of you would do whatever it was for your family weather it be signing on the dole to feed them or working 50 hours a week. Men can move mountains. This is a true story Dashrath MAhnji was forced to watch his wife die because there was a mountin in the way of the hospital, he tried to carry her but she died. After she died he spent 2 decades digging away at the monuntin, untill he reached his goal. He spent 20 years digging to ensure his villagers would never being in the situation he once had been. He reduced the walk to a 1km. The man above didn't let the 16 mile walk keep him from applying for work, he did it he set a goal and achieved it just because the outcome wasn't great doesn't mean he didn't try. Cut the poor man some slack! If he didn't won't to work he wouldn't be so desperate to get his story heard. I've worked since I finished school and never signed on before, if I was to loose my job I would have no shame in signing on, the government are not just there for people who don't won't to work as your minds are programmed to think. Show some respect for this man as one day he will move mountains. S a m m y
  • Score: 0

10:37am Sat 24 May 14

endthelies says...

S a m m y wrote:
I hope none of the haters ever fall upon hard times, I exspect you would never claim any benefits. Wrong!? All of you would do whatever it was for your family weather it be signing on the dole to feed them or working 50 hours a week. Men can move mountains. This is a true story Dashrath MAhnji was forced to watch his wife die because there was a mountin in the way of the hospital, he tried to carry her but she died. After she died he spent 2 decades digging away at the monuntin, untill he reached his goal. He spent 20 years digging to ensure his villagers would never being in the situation he once had been. He reduced the walk to a 1km. The man above didn't let the 16 mile walk keep him from applying for work, he did it he set a goal and achieved it just because the outcome wasn't great doesn't mean he didn't try. Cut the poor man some slack! If he didn't won't to work he wouldn't be so desperate to get his story heard. I've worked since I finished school and never signed on before, if I was to loose my job I would have no shame in signing on, the government are not just there for people who don't won't to work as your minds are programmed to think. Show some respect for this man as one day he will move mountains.
That's very true Sammy. as I said in an earlier post, circumstances can change overnight and you never know when you may be the person who needs that support. I hope this man gets a job from the article and I hope he and his family overcome the situation they find themselves in currently.
[quote][p][bold]S a m m y[/bold] wrote: I hope none of the haters ever fall upon hard times, I exspect you would never claim any benefits. Wrong!? All of you would do whatever it was for your family weather it be signing on the dole to feed them or working 50 hours a week. Men can move mountains. This is a true story Dashrath MAhnji was forced to watch his wife die because there was a mountin in the way of the hospital, he tried to carry her but she died. After she died he spent 2 decades digging away at the monuntin, untill he reached his goal. He spent 20 years digging to ensure his villagers would never being in the situation he once had been. He reduced the walk to a 1km. The man above didn't let the 16 mile walk keep him from applying for work, he did it he set a goal and achieved it just because the outcome wasn't great doesn't mean he didn't try. Cut the poor man some slack! If he didn't won't to work he wouldn't be so desperate to get his story heard. I've worked since I finished school and never signed on before, if I was to loose my job I would have no shame in signing on, the government are not just there for people who don't won't to work as your minds are programmed to think. Show some respect for this man as one day he will move mountains.[/p][/quote]That's very true Sammy. as I said in an earlier post, circumstances can change overnight and you never know when you may be the person who needs that support. I hope this man gets a job from the article and I hope he and his family overcome the situation they find themselves in currently. endthelies
  • Score: 2

8:52pm Sat 24 May 14

Independentvoter says...

Mervyn James wrote:
Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....
Maybe we should stop contributing on here then and find somewhere else ?
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....[/p][/quote]Maybe we should stop contributing on here then and find somewhere else ? Independentvoter
  • Score: 1

9:40pm Sat 24 May 14

endthelies says...

Independentvoter wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....
Maybe we should stop contributing on here then and find somewhere else ?
Now Mervyn have you been upsetting the anti -benefit brigade. You should know by now they feel they should be allowed to comment without any form of counter argument. :-)
[quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....[/p][/quote]Maybe we should stop contributing on here then and find somewhere else ?[/p][/quote]Now Mervyn have you been upsetting the anti -benefit brigade. You should know by now they feel they should be allowed to comment without any form of counter argument. :-) endthelies
  • Score: 0

7:07am Sun 25 May 14

El Chapo says...

endthelies wrote:
Independentvoter wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....
Maybe we should stop contributing on here then and find somewhere else ?
Now Mervyn have you been upsetting the anti -benefit brigade. You should know by now they feel they should be allowed to comment without any form of counter argument. :-)
The 'anti-benefit brigade' are well within their rights to moan about the UKs soft approach to handing out benefits (although the conservatives have made it slightly more difficult)

The argument is not about should people in need receive help. Of course the answer is yes.

The complaint is about the large families and single mothers not being controlled by the state when they clearly can't afford the kids they have produced. As unlikely as it is I hope that the guilty parties feel some embarrassment when their kids are old enough to understand that their parents are .............

These people are a disgrace
[quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....[/p][/quote]Maybe we should stop contributing on here then and find somewhere else ?[/p][/quote]Now Mervyn have you been upsetting the anti -benefit brigade. You should know by now they feel they should be allowed to comment without any form of counter argument. :-)[/p][/quote]The 'anti-benefit brigade' are well within their rights to moan about the UKs soft approach to handing out benefits (although the conservatives have made it slightly more difficult) The argument is not about should people in need receive help. Of course the answer is yes. The complaint is about the large families and single mothers not being controlled by the state when they clearly can't afford the kids they have produced. As unlikely as it is I hope that the guilty parties feel some embarrassment when their kids are old enough to understand that their parents are ............. These people are a disgrace El Chapo
  • Score: 3

8:47am Sun 25 May 14

endthelies says...

El Chapo wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Independentvoter wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....
Maybe we should stop contributing on here then and find somewhere else ?
Now Mervyn have you been upsetting the anti -benefit brigade. You should know by now they feel they should be allowed to comment without any form of counter argument. :-)
The 'anti-benefit brigade' are well within their rights to moan about the UKs soft approach to handing out benefits (although the conservatives have made it slightly more difficult)

The argument is not about should people in need receive help. Of course the answer is yes.

The complaint is about the large families and single mothers not being controlled by the state when they clearly can't afford the kids they have produced. As unlikely as it is I hope that the guilty parties feel some embarrassment when their kids are old enough to understand that their parents are .............

These people are a disgrace
Well then this chap needs help to get on his feet. That's why he's trying to get a job so therefore, the argument you raise is not really relevant to this article. When he gets a job he'll be supporting his family, as he did before.
[quote][p][bold]El Chapo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Independentvoter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: Cripes even when they make every effort to find work the Daily Wailers wade in, what bunch of saddoes....[/p][/quote]Maybe we should stop contributing on here then and find somewhere else ?[/p][/quote]Now Mervyn have you been upsetting the anti -benefit brigade. You should know by now they feel they should be allowed to comment without any form of counter argument. :-)[/p][/quote]The 'anti-benefit brigade' are well within their rights to moan about the UKs soft approach to handing out benefits (although the conservatives have made it slightly more difficult) The argument is not about should people in need receive help. Of course the answer is yes. The complaint is about the large families and single mothers not being controlled by the state when they clearly can't afford the kids they have produced. As unlikely as it is I hope that the guilty parties feel some embarrassment when their kids are old enough to understand that their parents are ............. These people are a disgrace[/p][/quote]Well then this chap needs help to get on his feet. That's why he's trying to get a job so therefore, the argument you raise is not really relevant to this article. When he gets a job he'll be supporting his family, as he did before. endthelies
  • Score: -1

9:25am Sun 25 May 14

endthelies says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...
And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?
where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ...
Quote from you 'if we stuck to survival of the fittest' which to me means that people who are not as fit don't survive!! What on earth has that got to do with turning to family when you need help!! What you have quoted is a euthanasia promotion.
even animals look after there family .. go watch some Attenborough ..... this is turning into a petty argument now... enjoy your day
I know I'm naughty but I have to say this. Strider, you tell me to go and watch Attenborough but I think its you that needs to catch up with your wildlife education. In the wild, if animals are to weak to survive they are left to die. That's what survival of the fittest means. That's why I took such offence at your previous post saying that if we went back to survival of the fittest, you wouldn't be speaking to half of us on here. As someone who is disabled, this rattled my chains. Anyway, have a lovely bank holiday folks. xx
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...[/p][/quote]And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?[/p][/quote]where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ...[/p][/quote]Quote from you 'if we stuck to survival of the fittest' which to me means that people who are not as fit don't survive!! What on earth has that got to do with turning to family when you need help!! What you have quoted is a euthanasia promotion.[/p][/quote]even animals look after there family .. go watch some Attenborough ..... this is turning into a petty argument now... enjoy your day[/p][/quote]I know I'm naughty but I have to say this. Strider, you tell me to go and watch Attenborough but I think its you that needs to catch up with your wildlife education. In the wild, if animals are to weak to survive they are left to die. That's what survival of the fittest means. That's why I took such offence at your previous post saying that if we went back to survival of the fittest, you wouldn't be speaking to half of us on here. As someone who is disabled, this rattled my chains. Anyway, have a lovely bank holiday folks. xx endthelies
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3:36pm Sun 25 May 14

Newportsucks85 says...

endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...
And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?
where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ...
Quote from you 'if we stuck to survival of the fittest' which to me means that people who are not as fit don't survive!! What on earth has that got to do with turning to family when you need help!! What you have quoted is a euthanasia promotion.
even animals look after there family .. go watch some Attenborough ..... this is turning into a petty argument now... enjoy your day
I know I'm naughty but I have to say this. Strider, you tell me to go and watch Attenborough but I think its you that needs to catch up with your wildlife education. In the wild, if animals are to weak to survive they are left to die. That's what survival of the fittest means. That's why I took such offence at your previous post saying that if we went back to survival of the fittest, you wouldn't be speaking to half of us on here. As someone who is disabled, this rattled my chains. Anyway, have a lovely bank holiday folks. xx
i told u to watch Attenborough ! I don't know who Strider is ! I apologize if I offended u and ment nothing off the sort , I don't take into account peoples unique circumstances when I am angry, I am sorry to hear about your disability and am grateful we live in a modern society that looks after people less fortunate than myself ! x
[quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...[/p][/quote]And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?[/p][/quote]where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ...[/p][/quote]Quote from you 'if we stuck to survival of the fittest' which to me means that people who are not as fit don't survive!! What on earth has that got to do with turning to family when you need help!! What you have quoted is a euthanasia promotion.[/p][/quote]even animals look after there family .. go watch some Attenborough ..... this is turning into a petty argument now... enjoy your day[/p][/quote]I know I'm naughty but I have to say this. Strider, you tell me to go and watch Attenborough but I think its you that needs to catch up with your wildlife education. In the wild, if animals are to weak to survive they are left to die. That's what survival of the fittest means. That's why I took such offence at your previous post saying that if we went back to survival of the fittest, you wouldn't be speaking to half of us on here. As someone who is disabled, this rattled my chains. Anyway, have a lovely bank holiday folks. xx[/p][/quote]i told u to watch Attenborough ! I don't know who Strider is ! I apologize if I offended u and ment nothing off the sort , I don't take into account peoples unique circumstances when I am angry, I am sorry to hear about your disability and am grateful we live in a modern society that looks after people less fortunate than myself ! x Newportsucks85
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3:51pm Sun 25 May 14

endthelies says...

Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...
And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?
where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ...
Quote from you 'if we stuck to survival of the fittest' which to me means that people who are not as fit don't survive!! What on earth has that got to do with turning to family when you need help!! What you have quoted is a euthanasia promotion.
even animals look after there family .. go watch some Attenborough ..... this is turning into a petty argument now... enjoy your day
I know I'm naughty but I have to say this. Strider, you tell me to go and watch Attenborough but I think its you that needs to catch up with your wildlife education. In the wild, if animals are to weak to survive they are left to die. That's what survival of the fittest means. That's why I took such offence at your previous post saying that if we went back to survival of the fittest, you wouldn't be speaking to half of us on here. As someone who is disabled, this rattled my chains. Anyway, have a lovely bank holiday folks. xx
i told u to watch Attenborough ! I don't know who Strider is ! I apologize if I offended u and ment nothing off the sort , I don't take into account peoples unique circumstances when I am angry, I am sorry to hear about your disability and am grateful we live in a modern society that looks after people less fortunate than myself ! x
Oops Sorry Strider. My mistake. That's ok Newport. I don't take offence, but, I suppose like you in some ways, I fire back. All's good in the hood.xx
[quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...[/p][/quote]And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?[/p][/quote]where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ...[/p][/quote]Quote from you 'if we stuck to survival of the fittest' which to me means that people who are not as fit don't survive!! What on earth has that got to do with turning to family when you need help!! What you have quoted is a euthanasia promotion.[/p][/quote]even animals look after there family .. go watch some Attenborough ..... this is turning into a petty argument now... enjoy your day[/p][/quote]I know I'm naughty but I have to say this. Strider, you tell me to go and watch Attenborough but I think its you that needs to catch up with your wildlife education. In the wild, if animals are to weak to survive they are left to die. That's what survival of the fittest means. That's why I took such offence at your previous post saying that if we went back to survival of the fittest, you wouldn't be speaking to half of us on here. As someone who is disabled, this rattled my chains. Anyway, have a lovely bank holiday folks. xx[/p][/quote]i told u to watch Attenborough ! I don't know who Strider is ! I apologize if I offended u and ment nothing off the sort , I don't take into account peoples unique circumstances when I am angry, I am sorry to hear about your disability and am grateful we live in a modern society that looks after people less fortunate than myself ! x[/p][/quote]Oops Sorry Strider. My mistake. That's ok Newport. I don't take offence, but, I suppose like you in some ways, I fire back. All's good in the hood.xx endthelies
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7:20pm Sun 25 May 14

Strider says...

endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
endthelies wrote:
Newportsucks85 wrote:
Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...
And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?
where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ...
Quote from you 'if we stuck to survival of the fittest' which to me means that people who are not as fit don't survive!! What on earth has that got to do with turning to family when you need help!! What you have quoted is a euthanasia promotion.
even animals look after there family .. go watch some Attenborough ..... this is turning into a petty argument now... enjoy your day
I know I'm naughty but I have to say this. Strider, you tell me to go and watch Attenborough but I think its you that needs to catch up with your wildlife education. In the wild, if animals are to weak to survive they are left to die. That's what survival of the fittest means. That's why I took such offence at your previous post saying that if we went back to survival of the fittest, you wouldn't be speaking to half of us on here. As someone who is disabled, this rattled my chains. Anyway, have a lovely bank holiday folks. xx
i told u to watch Attenborough ! I don't know who Strider is ! I apologize if I offended u and ment nothing off the sort , I don't take into account peoples unique circumstances when I am angry, I am sorry to hear about your disability and am grateful we live in a modern society that looks after people less fortunate than myself ! x
Oops Sorry Strider. My mistake. That's ok Newport. I don't take offence, but, I suppose like you in some ways, I fire back. All's good in the hood.xx
No worries 'Endthelies' I'm actually registered disabled myself so I know where your coming from:-) Sorry about the late reply but I gave up posting on the Argus forum and took up less dangerous pursuits such as Skydiving and being Jeremy Clarkson's best friend..

Happy days to you:XX
[quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Newportsucks85[/bold] wrote: Before any off u trump up with "what about the weak, mentally ill , sick , if we stuck to survival of the fittest the above problems would've been weeded out a long time ago ...[/p][/quote]And as for this comment, if you had your way I for one, wouldn't be speaking to you now as I had to retire from work due to chronic illness. I was a teaching assistant for the disabled so I guess, if you had your way, I wouldn't have had that job either because there would have been no one to look after. Tell me would you like your nearest and dearest to be done away with when they can no longer support themselves?[/p][/quote]where's your family ? I turn to my family when I need help ...[/p][/quote]Quote from you 'if we stuck to survival of the fittest' which to me means that people who are not as fit don't survive!! What on earth has that got to do with turning to family when you need help!! What you have quoted is a euthanasia promotion.[/p][/quote]even animals look after there family .. go watch some Attenborough ..... this is turning into a petty argument now... enjoy your day[/p][/quote]I know I'm naughty but I have to say this. Strider, you tell me to go and watch Attenborough but I think its you that needs to catch up with your wildlife education. In the wild, if animals are to weak to survive they are left to die. That's what survival of the fittest means. That's why I took such offence at your previous post saying that if we went back to survival of the fittest, you wouldn't be speaking to half of us on here. As someone who is disabled, this rattled my chains. Anyway, have a lovely bank holiday folks. xx[/p][/quote]i told u to watch Attenborough ! I don't know who Strider is ! I apologize if I offended u and ment nothing off the sort , I don't take into account peoples unique circumstances when I am angry, I am sorry to hear about your disability and am grateful we live in a modern society that looks after people less fortunate than myself ! x[/p][/quote]Oops Sorry Strider. My mistake. That's ok Newport. I don't take offence, but, I suppose like you in some ways, I fire back. All's good in the hood.xx[/p][/quote]No worries 'Endthelies' I'm actually registered disabled myself so I know where your coming from:-) Sorry about the late reply but I gave up posting on the Argus forum and took up less dangerous pursuits such as Skydiving and being Jeremy Clarkson's best friend.. Happy days to you:XX Strider
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8:21pm Sun 25 May 14

Strider says...

endthelies wrote:
I hop you don't mean me Strider as I can assure you I have one email account, one username and very rarely give one line answers (as most posters on here can verify :) ). If the said poster cannot give a reasonable argument for the posts he chooses to write, then he should stop posting.
No not you 'endthelies' I like you, your sound as in I respect you.. Besides I always thought you where a girl and the person I'm referring claims to be a man in his 70's... Next week he'd be a Astronaut or a Plaid Councillor..

I always say treat people how you expect to be treated yourself, give reasoned arguments for my view, or be willing to listen to a critique or others' arguments.. Friend sent me a link to anothor story & the 85 posts drew me here.. Felt a surge of annoyance for some of the straw-man one liners "how our base natures are cruel as we want children to starve"

Nice to be able to talk to somebody without having to go the defense.. You've made some thought provoking point and you've actually made me go with something to think about what you said :-)
[quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: I hop you don't mean me Strider as I can assure you I have one email account, one username and very rarely give one line answers (as most posters on here can verify :) ). If the said poster cannot give a reasonable argument for the posts he chooses to write, then he should stop posting.[/p][/quote]No not you 'endthelies' I like you, your sound as in I respect you.. Besides I always thought you where a girl and the person I'm referring claims to be a man in his 70's... Next week he'd be a Astronaut or a Plaid Councillor.. I always say treat people how you expect to be treated yourself, give reasoned arguments for my view, or be willing to listen to a critique or others' arguments.. Friend sent me a link to anothor story & the 85 posts drew me here.. Felt a surge of annoyance for some of the straw-man one liners "how our base natures are cruel as we want children to starve" Nice to be able to talk to somebody without having to go the defense.. You've made some thought provoking point and you've actually made me go with something to think about what you said :-) Strider
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9:01pm Sun 25 May 14

endthelies says...

Strider wrote:
endthelies wrote:
I hop you don't mean me Strider as I can assure you I have one email account, one username and very rarely give one line answers (as most posters on here can verify :) ). If the said poster cannot give a reasonable argument for the posts he chooses to write, then he should stop posting.
No not you 'endthelies' I like you, your sound as in I respect you.. Besides I always thought you where a girl and the person I'm referring claims to be a man in his 70's... Next week he'd be a Astronaut or a Plaid Councillor..

I always say treat people how you expect to be treated yourself, give reasoned arguments for my view, or be willing to listen to a critique or others' arguments.. Friend sent me a link to anothor story & the 85 posts drew me here.. Felt a surge of annoyance for some of the straw-man one liners "how our base natures are cruel as we want children to starve"

Nice to be able to talk to somebody without having to go the defense.. You've made some thought provoking point and you've actually made me go with something to think about what you said :-)
Well thanks to both you and Newport for your replies. They were both really nice and I just come on here because I love a debate!! Newport, I am sorry to here that you too are registered disabled. Its no blooming fun is it? Good luck to you both and thank you once again for your replies. Much appreciated.xx
[quote][p][bold]Strider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: I hop you don't mean me Strider as I can assure you I have one email account, one username and very rarely give one line answers (as most posters on here can verify :) ). If the said poster cannot give a reasonable argument for the posts he chooses to write, then he should stop posting.[/p][/quote]No not you 'endthelies' I like you, your sound as in I respect you.. Besides I always thought you where a girl and the person I'm referring claims to be a man in his 70's... Next week he'd be a Astronaut or a Plaid Councillor.. I always say treat people how you expect to be treated yourself, give reasoned arguments for my view, or be willing to listen to a critique or others' arguments.. Friend sent me a link to anothor story & the 85 posts drew me here.. Felt a surge of annoyance for some of the straw-man one liners "how our base natures are cruel as we want children to starve" Nice to be able to talk to somebody without having to go the defense.. You've made some thought provoking point and you've actually made me go with something to think about what you said :-)[/p][/quote]Well thanks to both you and Newport for your replies. They were both really nice and I just come on here because I love a debate!! Newport, I am sorry to here that you too are registered disabled. Its no blooming fun is it? Good luck to you both and thank you once again for your replies. Much appreciated.xx endthelies
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9:05pm Sun 25 May 14

endthelies says...

endthelies wrote:
Strider wrote:
endthelies wrote:
I hop you don't mean me Strider as I can assure you I have one email account, one username and very rarely give one line answers (as most posters on here can verify :) ). If the said poster cannot give a reasonable argument for the posts he chooses to write, then he should stop posting.
No not you 'endthelies' I like you, your sound as in I respect you.. Besides I always thought you where a girl and the person I'm referring claims to be a man in his 70's... Next week he'd be a Astronaut or a Plaid Councillor..

I always say treat people how you expect to be treated yourself, give reasoned arguments for my view, or be willing to listen to a critique or others' arguments.. Friend sent me a link to anothor story & the 85 posts drew me here.. Felt a surge of annoyance for some of the straw-man one liners "how our base natures are cruel as we want children to starve"

Nice to be able to talk to somebody without having to go the defense.. You've made some thought provoking point and you've actually made me go with something to think about what you said :-)
Well thanks to both you and Newport for your replies. They were both really nice and I just come on here because I love a debate!! Newport, I am sorry to here that you too are registered disabled. Its no blooming fun is it? Good luck to you both and thank you once again for your replies. Much appreciated.xx
Sorry, I made another b**b. STRIDER, I'm sorry to here you have a disability, and wish you all the best. I'm going now before I louse anything else up. :)
[quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Strider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]endthelies[/bold] wrote: I hop you don't mean me Strider as I can assure you I have one email account, one username and very rarely give one line answers (as most posters on here can verify :) ). If the said poster cannot give a reasonable argument for the posts he chooses to write, then he should stop posting.[/p][/quote]No not you 'endthelies' I like you, your sound as in I respect you.. Besides I always thought you where a girl and the person I'm referring claims to be a man in his 70's... Next week he'd be a Astronaut or a Plaid Councillor.. I always say treat people how you expect to be treated yourself, give reasoned arguments for my view, or be willing to listen to a critique or others' arguments.. Friend sent me a link to anothor story & the 85 posts drew me here.. Felt a surge of annoyance for some of the straw-man one liners "how our base natures are cruel as we want children to starve" Nice to be able to talk to somebody without having to go the defense.. You've made some thought provoking point and you've actually made me go with something to think about what you said :-)[/p][/quote]Well thanks to both you and Newport for your replies. They were both really nice and I just come on here because I love a debate!! Newport, I am sorry to here that you too are registered disabled. Its no blooming fun is it? Good luck to you both and thank you once again for your replies. Much appreciated.xx[/p][/quote]Sorry, I made another b**b. STRIDER, I'm sorry to here you have a disability, and wish you all the best. I'm going now before I louse anything else up. :) endthelies
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