Warning over bin collection cuts

A TORFAEN community leader has warned that plans to cut rubbish collections to once a month could increase fly-tipping.

Torfaen council chiefs are preparing to launch a consultation on the controversial issue this week.

But Pontypool Community Council chair Gaynor James spoke out after households expressed dismay at the proposals, which seek to boost recycling and avoid government fines of up to £600,000 in 2015-16.

The plans could see the current fortnightly collections either maintained, restricted to just two refuse bags per household, or cut to once a month.

Ms James, 58, said: “It’s tough enough for people every two weeks. If they go even further then there’s going to be smells in the street, especially in the summer.

“Everyone is recycling a bit more. But bins are going to burst at the seams. What you will get is more fly-tipping.”

Carole Jacob, Torfaen Friends of the Earth co-ordinator, echoed Ms James’ views: “It is a very personal issue and it depends on the number of people in your household.

“It may be that for some people it will encourage them to fly-tip. It’s a matter of educating people.”

Cllr John Cunningham, executive member for neighbourhood services, said: “If we fail to meet the 2015-16 recycling targets the council will be facing fines of up to £600,000 per year.

“We have to make reductions in the amount of waste we are sending to landfill.”

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8:35am Fri 30 May 14

Bobevans says...

This a totally crazy idea. You pay council tax for services and that includes collecting household waste. It I no acceptable for councils just to decide to try to opt out of collecting waste
This a totally crazy idea. You pay council tax for services and that includes collecting household waste. It I no acceptable for councils just to decide to try to opt out of collecting waste Bobevans
  • Score: 36

8:46am Fri 30 May 14

spanner100 says...

Totally pathetic and unhealthy. Get a grip Torfaen Council members. Do you really want more "Fly Tipping" and more filth littered around the County. I thought mankind was supposed to progress!! NOT move back to the "Dark Ages"The time must surely be nigh for Torfaen residents to rebel against this idiotic Council.
Totally pathetic and unhealthy. Get a grip Torfaen Council members. Do you really want more "Fly Tipping" and more filth littered around the County. I thought mankind was supposed to progress!! NOT move back to the "Dark Ages"The time must surely be nigh for Torfaen residents to rebel against this idiotic Council. spanner100
  • Score: 31

9:20am Fri 30 May 14

CraigJo says...

Torfaen council chiefs are preparing to launch a consultation i.e. even if the residents say they don’t want it, we'll do it anyway. I remember the time when the council were public servants and not our masters and we had an agreement whereby I would pay them council tax and they would empty my bins regularly. I still pay the council tax but they don’t want to fulfil their end of the agreement!
Torfaen council chiefs are preparing to launch a consultation i.e. even if the residents say they don’t want it, we'll do it anyway. I remember the time when the council were public servants and not our masters and we had an agreement whereby I would pay them council tax and they would empty my bins regularly. I still pay the council tax but they don’t want to fulfil their end of the agreement! CraigJo
  • Score: 26

9:44am Fri 30 May 14

-trigg- says...

It may be that for some people it will encourage them to fly-tip. It’s a matter of educating people


The people who need educating are those who came up with this suggestion. If collections are reduced to once per month, people will be left with a surplus of un-recyclable rubbish. The fortunate few may be able to take this surplus to the tip (which incidentally won't help the recycling rates). The remainder will be left with the choice to either let it continue to build up outside their homes or find somewhere else to put it - my preference would be on their local councillor's lawn.
[quote] It may be that for some people it will encourage them to fly-tip. It’s a matter of educating people [/quote] The people who need educating are those who came up with this suggestion. If collections are reduced to once per month, people will be left with a surplus of un-recyclable rubbish. The fortunate few may be able to take this surplus to the tip (which incidentally won't help the recycling rates). The remainder will be left with the choice to either let it continue to build up outside their homes or find somewhere else to put it - my preference would be on their local councillor's lawn. -trigg-
  • Score: 23

11:51am Fri 30 May 14

indy2012 says...

European directive " rubbish to be collected at least once a week"
European directive " rubbish to be collected at least once a week" indy2012
  • Score: 13

11:54am Fri 30 May 14

indy2012 says...

indy2012 wrote:
European directive " rubbish to be collected at least once a week"
So sorry TCBC not on the same planet as us, never mind being in the same European Union.
[quote][p][bold]indy2012[/bold] wrote: European directive " rubbish to be collected at least once a week"[/p][/quote]So sorry TCBC not on the same planet as us, never mind being in the same European Union. indy2012
  • Score: 12

12:30pm Fri 30 May 14

paddyparry says...

My solution is quite easy... If you cannot get any more non-recycable rubbish in your bin, then use the bin of your local councillor. This should help them to focus on the problem. There is always going to be a point that, no matter what councils try, we cannot recycle any more rubbish. Until they have sufficeint facilities to recycle more types of waste then we'll get no further. They have a statutory obligation to provide weekly waste collection services. There is also the public health problem that will result.
My solution is quite easy... If you cannot get any more non-recycable rubbish in your bin, then use the bin of your local councillor. This should help them to focus on the problem. There is always going to be a point that, no matter what councils try, we cannot recycle any more rubbish. Until they have sufficeint facilities to recycle more types of waste then we'll get no further. They have a statutory obligation to provide weekly waste collection services. There is also the public health problem that will result. paddyparry
  • Score: 15

12:55pm Fri 30 May 14

tap says...

We already have what can only be described as the worst refuce collection service in Wales. Bins are regularly missed, rubbish is left in the road where it has been dropped by the refuse collectors who then cannot be bothered to pick it up and if you report a missed collection it is simply ignored! Well done Torfaen council, your ability to year after year turn poor services into completely unacceptable services has to be admired!!
We already have what can only be described as the worst refuce collection service in Wales. Bins are regularly missed, rubbish is left in the road where it has been dropped by the refuse collectors who then cannot be bothered to pick it up and if you report a missed collection it is simply ignored! Well done Torfaen council, your ability to year after year turn poor services into completely unacceptable services has to be admired!! tap
  • Score: 16

1:20pm Fri 30 May 14

Sometimes says...

As posted last time this story came up, the council should be taking on the retailers and manufacturers like Tesco to make their packaging more recyclable and Torfaen should take all types of plastics and cardboard, not just a few, that way then, the poor consumer/taxpayer could put more in their recycle bins. The blot on the landscape for Torfaen is that most of their plastic recycling ends up in places like the Polo grounds industrial estate in Pontypool at so called recycling plants, which are just balers for sending on to other countries, not actually recycling the waste. But this waste then ends up being stored outside for months on end polluting the local environment every time it rains through the wash off into the local eco system. It is easier for Bob and his band of merry men at Torfaen to impose their will on the people than it is to take on the root cause of the problem.
As posted last time this story came up, the council should be taking on the retailers and manufacturers like Tesco to make their packaging more recyclable and Torfaen should take all types of plastics and cardboard, not just a few, that way then, the poor consumer/taxpayer could put more in their recycle bins. The blot on the landscape for Torfaen is that most of their plastic recycling ends up in places like the Polo grounds industrial estate in Pontypool at so called recycling plants, which are just balers for sending on to other countries, not actually recycling the waste. But this waste then ends up being stored outside for months on end polluting the local environment every time it rains through the wash off into the local eco system. It is easier for Bob and his band of merry men at Torfaen to impose their will on the people than it is to take on the root cause of the problem. Sometimes
  • Score: 6

1:43pm Fri 30 May 14

davidcp says...

Still no-one has explained to me why, if the councils have to CUT their budgets by 20%, my community charge has gone UP!! Why do they need MORE of my money to spend LESS of it??
Still no-one has explained to me why, if the councils have to CUT their budgets by 20%, my community charge has gone UP!! Why do they need MORE of my money to spend LESS of it?? davidcp
  • Score: 9

4:05pm Fri 30 May 14

irisheyes says...

T.C.B.C. has already reduced the number of pest control officers so we have a rat problem and no-one to deal with it,now they want to reduce the number of times refuse is collected.Wake up T.C.B.C you can't expect your residents to have council tax increased and services decreased.Just remember residents,we have elections next year so use your brains to vote and not just vote as your ancestors did.
T.C.B.C. has already reduced the number of pest control officers so we have a rat problem and no-one to deal with it,now they want to reduce the number of times refuse is collected.Wake up T.C.B.C you can't expect your residents to have council tax increased and services decreased.Just remember residents,we have elections next year so use your brains to vote and not just vote as your ancestors did. irisheyes
  • Score: 9

7:13pm Fri 30 May 14

Limestonecowboy says...

Playing devils advocate general refuse should be limited & inert because food waste (weekly), gardening, cardboards papers plastics etc., are put out for separate collection so there shouldn't be waste on the street?
Playing devils advocate general refuse should be limited & inert because food waste (weekly), gardening, cardboards papers plastics etc., are put out for separate collection so there shouldn't be waste on the street? Limestonecowboy
  • Score: 0

5:58pm Sat 31 May 14

Bobevans says...

indy2012 wrote:
European directive " rubbish to be collected at least once a week"
World Health Organisation recommendation for the UK is weekly bin collections
[quote][p][bold]indy2012[/bold] wrote: European directive " rubbish to be collected at least once a week"[/p][/quote]World Health Organisation recommendation for the UK is weekly bin collections Bobevans
  • Score: 1

6:01pm Sat 31 May 14

Bobevans says...

spanner100 wrote:
Totally pathetic and unhealthy. Get a grip Torfaen Council members. Do you really want more "Fly Tipping" and more filth littered around the County. I thought mankind was supposed to progress!! NOT move back to the "Dark Ages"The time must surely be nigh for Torfaen residents to rebel against this idiotic Council.
Do the council think the waste will somehow just disappear? You will get household waste dumped in the streets and in street litter bins and burnt in gardens, Do these brainless fools think?
[quote][p][bold]spanner100[/bold] wrote: Totally pathetic and unhealthy. Get a grip Torfaen Council members. Do you really want more "Fly Tipping" and more filth littered around the County. I thought mankind was supposed to progress!! NOT move back to the "Dark Ages"The time must surely be nigh for Torfaen residents to rebel against this idiotic Council.[/p][/quote]Do the council think the waste will somehow just disappear? You will get household waste dumped in the streets and in street litter bins and burnt in gardens, Do these brainless fools think? Bobevans
  • Score: 2

6:02pm Sat 31 May 14

Bobevans says...

CraigJo wrote:
Torfaen council chiefs are preparing to launch a consultation i.e. even if the residents say they don’t want it, we'll do it anyway. I remember the time when the council were public servants and not our masters and we had an agreement whereby I would pay them council tax and they would empty my bins regularly. I still pay the council tax but they don’t want to fulfil their end of the agreement!
What should happen is you should able to opt out of Council refuse collections and have your council tax reduced. Private contractor can do it cheaper and better
[quote][p][bold]CraigJo[/bold] wrote: Torfaen council chiefs are preparing to launch a consultation i.e. even if the residents say they don’t want it, we'll do it anyway. I remember the time when the council were public servants and not our masters and we had an agreement whereby I would pay them council tax and they would empty my bins regularly. I still pay the council tax but they don’t want to fulfil their end of the agreement![/p][/quote]What should happen is you should able to opt out of Council refuse collections and have your council tax reduced. Private contractor can do it cheaper and better Bobevans
  • Score: -1

7:39pm Sat 31 May 14

Aquarius says...

Some of this is down to the EU, and also to those lovable morons in Cardiff Bay, not just TCBC.

Still, if they bring this plan in, why not take revenge by voting these cretins out for once? I'd be hard pressed to see what Mr Cunningham or Mr Wellington have ever done for anyone who actually voted for them. But they themselves have done quite nicely out of their 'Labour' credentials, thanks very much. People really need to wake up and stop ticking the Labour box automatically, like I used to. They're treating you with contempt.
Some of this is down to the EU, and also to those lovable morons in Cardiff Bay, not just TCBC. Still, if they bring this plan in, why not take revenge by voting these cretins out for once? I'd be hard pressed to see what Mr Cunningham or Mr Wellington have ever done for anyone who actually voted for them. But they themselves have done quite nicely out of their 'Labour' credentials, thanks very much. People really need to wake up and stop ticking the Labour box automatically, like I used to. They're treating you with contempt. Aquarius
  • Score: 1

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