Wales' Ukip MEP, Nathan Gill, admits employing workers from the Philippines and Eastern Europe

EMPLOYED IMMIGRANT WORKERS: Ukip MEP Nathan Gill

EMPLOYED IMMIGRANT WORKERS: Ukip MEP Nathan Gill

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WALES’ newly-elected Ukip MEP has admitted his family employed staff from Eastern Europe and the Philippines.

Nathan Gill’s family business, based in Hull, was a residential care home which looked after people in their own homes and provided domiciliary care.

He said he employed no “more than a couple of dozen overseas staff from over 180 employees” from abroad and secured appropriate work permits for them when he did so.

Mr Gill said he was unsure of “precise figures” because they were employed “many years ago” and recruitment and training was not his responsibility.

He said: “We had a high turnover of staff, as caring is a very demanding career. We ended up having to employ carers from the Philippines, and did this by acquiring appropriate work permits.”

The family business closed down in 2008 when HSBC ended its overdraft facility, he said.

Mr Gill was elected as an MEP in last month’s European elections - his party stood on an anti-immigration and anti-Europe platform. His party came second to Labour in Wales, winning 201,983 votes and 27.55 per cent of the vote, to Labour’s 28.15 per cent.

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5:54pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

I employed Imelda Marcos. Had to sack her. She was changing her shoes 40 times a day
I employed Imelda Marcos. Had to sack her. She was changing her shoes 40 times a day Dai Rear
  • Score: -10

6:32pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Mike Roland says...

Dai Rear wrote:
I employed Imelda Marcos. Had to sack her. She was changing her shoes 40 times a day
Wasn't that a Les Dawson joke? Anyway, wherever it came from, it wasn't funny 20 years ago and therefore has no chance today.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: I employed Imelda Marcos. Had to sack her. She was changing her shoes 40 times a day[/p][/quote]Wasn't that a Les Dawson joke? Anyway, wherever it came from, it wasn't funny 20 years ago and therefore has no chance today. Mike Roland
  • Score: 12

9:12pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Bill Chapman says...

It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.
It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party. Bill Chapman
  • Score: 3

10:43pm Wed 4 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

Bill Chapman wrote:
It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.
I'm trying to see why he must resign or be flung out of UKIP.
UKIP policy on immigration is that immigrants must be working and paying into the system with valid work permits. This article states that all of that was in place. UKIP want to take back our border control and stop us ploughing 12 billion pounds a year into the European black hole. I think there is more conflict of interest with many MPs and their business involvements, cash for questions and expenses scandal then somebody who correctly and legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.
[quote][p][bold]Bill Chapman[/bold] wrote: It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.[/p][/quote]I'm trying to see why he must resign or be flung out of UKIP. UKIP policy on immigration is that immigrants must be working and paying into the system with valid work permits. This article states that all of that was in place. UKIP want to take back our border control and stop us ploughing 12 billion pounds a year into the European black hole. I think there is more conflict of interest with many MPs and their business involvements, cash for questions and expenses scandal then somebody who correctly and legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago. landyman3030
  • Score: -12

1:49am Thu 5 Jun 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

Capitalists employ immigrant workers because they are not legally obligated to pay them the same equal wages with non-immigrant workers. A way to end this unfair, exploitative and damaging practice would be for the Equal Pay Act to be extended so that the law makes it just as illegal to pay workers different rates of pay on the grounds of nationality as it is currently illegal to pay a male worker more than a female worker. However, as a notoriously anti-working class British workplace employment law cannot after over 40 years seem to even do the latter, the bottom line is that we need to elect a government which will take fair play in the workplace much more seriously and that will implement equal pay legislation that means just that. I feel people would do better to direct their anger at unscrupulous bosses who have nothing but contempt for all workers instead of swallowing the divisive line given by their capitalist Ukip lackeys that their jobs are being taken by immigrants etc.
Capitalists employ immigrant workers because they are not legally obligated to pay them the same equal wages with non-immigrant workers. A way to end this unfair, exploitative and damaging practice would be for the Equal Pay Act to be extended so that the law makes it just as illegal to pay workers different rates of pay on the grounds of nationality as it is currently illegal to pay a male worker more than a female worker. However, as a notoriously anti-working class British workplace employment law cannot after over 40 years seem to even do the latter, the bottom line is that we need to elect a government which will take fair play in the workplace much more seriously and that will implement equal pay legislation that means just that. I feel people would do better to direct their anger at unscrupulous bosses who have nothing but contempt for all workers instead of swallowing the divisive line given by their capitalist Ukip lackeys that their jobs are being taken by immigrants etc. Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 21

7:17am Thu 5 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Mike Roland wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
I employed Imelda Marcos. Had to sack her. She was changing her shoes 40 times a day
Wasn't that a Les Dawson joke? Anyway, wherever it came from, it wasn't funny 20 years ago and therefore has no chance today.
Quite right. I can't think of anything funny at all about my country being flooded with immigrants. Katie, above, as ever (bless!), has made a serious effort to raise a laugh with her tribute to the Tooting Popular Front but sorry Katie, you're often a side -splitter but there is nothing funny about immigration. It was proved by those prize mirth makers Blair 'n' Broon when they opened the floodgates. Stoney silence.
[quote][p][bold]Mike Roland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: I employed Imelda Marcos. Had to sack her. She was changing her shoes 40 times a day[/p][/quote]Wasn't that a Les Dawson joke? Anyway, wherever it came from, it wasn't funny 20 years ago and therefore has no chance today.[/p][/quote]Quite right. I can't think of anything funny at all about my country being flooded with immigrants. Katie, above, as ever (bless!), has made a serious effort to raise a laugh with her tribute to the Tooting Popular Front but sorry Katie, you're often a side -splitter but there is nothing funny about immigration. It was proved by those prize mirth makers Blair 'n' Broon when they opened the floodgates. Stoney silence. Dai Rear
  • Score: -26

7:39am Thu 5 Jun 14

BobEvams2014 says...

New measures proposed by UKIP include the new 'special dispensation' rule which applies only to UKIP Councillors and MEP's, whereby despite UKIP actively campaigning against immigrant labour, they are allowed to do so, such as German Secretarys, Latvian leaflet distributors, carers form the Phillipenes and Eastern Europe, where actively they campaign against MP's in Westminster employing family members they are allowed to employ their wives as Secretarys, and when claiming to be defending British Jobs purchase their Election Leaflets from a German printing company.
New measures proposed by UKIP include the new 'special dispensation' rule which applies only to UKIP Councillors and MEP's, whereby despite UKIP actively campaigning against immigrant labour, they are allowed to do so, such as German Secretarys, Latvian leaflet distributors, carers form the Phillipenes and Eastern Europe, where actively they campaign against MP's in Westminster employing family members they are allowed to employ their wives as Secretarys, and when claiming to be defending British Jobs purchase their Election Leaflets from a German printing company. BobEvams2014
  • Score: 22

8:23am Thu 5 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

BobEvams2014 wrote:
New measures proposed by UKIP include the new 'special dispensation' rule which applies only to UKIP Councillors and MEP's, whereby despite UKIP actively campaigning against immigrant labour, they are allowed to do so, such as German Secretarys, Latvian leaflet distributors, carers form the Phillipenes and Eastern Europe, where actively they campaign against MP's in Westminster employing family members they are allowed to employ their wives as Secretarys, and when claiming to be defending British Jobs purchase their Election Leaflets from a German printing company.
And Dave waxes lyrical about "overseas aid" i.e. giving dictators cash to buy Beemers, Audis and Mercs which, when I last looked, weren't being made anywhere near Longbridge or Dagenham
[quote][p][bold]BobEvams2014[/bold] wrote: New measures proposed by UKIP include the new 'special dispensation' rule which applies only to UKIP Councillors and MEP's, whereby despite UKIP actively campaigning against immigrant labour, they are allowed to do so, such as German Secretarys, Latvian leaflet distributors, carers form the Phillipenes and Eastern Europe, where actively they campaign against MP's in Westminster employing family members they are allowed to employ their wives as Secretarys, and when claiming to be defending British Jobs purchase their Election Leaflets from a German printing company.[/p][/quote]And Dave waxes lyrical about "overseas aid" i.e. giving dictators cash to buy Beemers, Audis and Mercs which, when I last looked, weren't being made anywhere near Longbridge or Dagenham Dai Rear
  • Score: -17

8:32am Thu 5 Jun 14

BobEvams2014 says...

Dai Rear wrote:
BobEvams2014 wrote: New measures proposed by UKIP include the new 'special dispensation' rule which applies only to UKIP Councillors and MEP's, whereby despite UKIP actively campaigning against immigrant labour, they are allowed to do so, such as German Secretarys, Latvian leaflet distributors, carers form the Phillipenes and Eastern Europe, where actively they campaign against MP's in Westminster employing family members they are allowed to employ their wives as Secretarys, and when claiming to be defending British Jobs purchase their Election Leaflets from a German printing company.
And Dave waxes lyrical about "overseas aid" i.e. giving dictators cash to buy Beemers, Audis and Mercs which, when I last looked, weren't being made anywhere near Longbridge or Dagenham
The thread is about UKIP not the Tories, Libs,Labour Plaid , Raving Looneys etc.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BobEvams2014[/bold] wrote: New measures proposed by UKIP include the new 'special dispensation' rule which applies only to UKIP Councillors and MEP's, whereby despite UKIP actively campaigning against immigrant labour, they are allowed to do so, such as German Secretarys, Latvian leaflet distributors, carers form the Phillipenes and Eastern Europe, where actively they campaign against MP's in Westminster employing family members they are allowed to employ their wives as Secretarys, and when claiming to be defending British Jobs purchase their Election Leaflets from a German printing company.[/p][/quote]And Dave waxes lyrical about "overseas aid" i.e. giving dictators cash to buy Beemers, Audis and Mercs which, when I last looked, weren't being made anywhere near Longbridge or Dagenham[/p][/quote]The thread is about UKIP not the Tories, Libs,Labour Plaid , Raving Looneys etc. BobEvams2014
  • Score: 21

10:35am Thu 5 Jun 14

james peterson says...

I think this is a case of dammed if you do and dammed if you don't . if he did not employ immigrates then he (UKIP) are racists and because he does he is a hypocrite even thou UKIP is against mass UNCONTROLED immigration not controlled immigration with work permits. this article proves that UKIP is NOT racists.

However it is a shame that the South Wales Argus can not tell the difference between "anti immigration" and anti uncontrolled immigration.
I think this is a case of dammed if you do and dammed if you don't . if he did not employ immigrates then he (UKIP) are racists and because he does he is a hypocrite even thou UKIP is against mass UNCONTROLED immigration not controlled immigration with work permits. this article proves that UKIP is NOT racists. However it is a shame that the South Wales Argus can not tell the difference between "anti immigration" and anti uncontrolled immigration. james peterson
  • Score: 3

10:37am Thu 5 Jun 14

cornucopia of crapitude says...

I agree with Katie. It's the capitalist exploitation of people that's the rood cause (radix malorum etc).

(@Dai Rear - you may remember me in my previous incarnation as brynglas!)
I agree with Katie. It's the capitalist exploitation of people that's the rood cause (radix malorum etc). (@Dai Rear - you may remember me in my previous incarnation as brynglas!) cornucopia of crapitude
  • Score: 8

10:37am Thu 5 Jun 14

cornucopia of crapitude says...

cornucopia of crapitude wrote:
I agree with Katie. It's the capitalist exploitation of people that's the rood cause (radix malorum etc).

(@Dai Rear - you may remember me in my previous incarnation as brynglas!)
Root not rood!
[quote][p][bold]cornucopia of crapitude[/bold] wrote: I agree with Katie. It's the capitalist exploitation of people that's the rood cause (radix malorum etc). (@Dai Rear - you may remember me in my previous incarnation as brynglas!)[/p][/quote]Root not rood! cornucopia of crapitude
  • Score: 2

10:52am Thu 5 Jun 14

james peterson says...

Nathan gill pays above minimum wage to these worker and he offers cheap accommodation unlike some places I have worked where carers are on minimum wage and still need to pay high rent, electric and gas bills. Nathan is not exploiting these workers when comparing to other employers. however I do think that carers in general are under paid for the jobs they do and the service they provide.
Nathan gill pays above minimum wage to these worker and he offers cheap accommodation unlike some places I have worked where carers are on minimum wage and still need to pay high rent, electric and gas bills. Nathan is not exploiting these workers when comparing to other employers. however I do think that carers in general are under paid for the jobs they do and the service they provide. james peterson
  • Score: 2

11:00am Thu 5 Jun 14

Jimport says...

landyman3030 wrote:
Bill Chapman wrote:
It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.
I'm trying to see why he must resign or be flung out of UKIP.
UKIP policy on immigration is that immigrants must be working and paying into the system with valid work permits. This article states that all of that was in place. UKIP want to take back our border control and stop us ploughing 12 billion pounds a year into the European black hole. I think there is more conflict of interest with many MPs and their business involvements, cash for questions and expenses scandal then somebody who correctly and legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.
A complete distortion. Farage talks of only allowing the right "quality of people" into the country. It doesn't take a genius to deduce that he is talking about precisely the kind of minimum-waged eastern European care workers that Mr Gill has employed. As a side note, presumably Farage also considers British-born workers on minimum wage to be 'low quality' human beings too.
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill Chapman[/bold] wrote: It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.[/p][/quote]I'm trying to see why he must resign or be flung out of UKIP. UKIP policy on immigration is that immigrants must be working and paying into the system with valid work permits. This article states that all of that was in place. UKIP want to take back our border control and stop us ploughing 12 billion pounds a year into the European black hole. I think there is more conflict of interest with many MPs and their business involvements, cash for questions and expenses scandal then somebody who correctly and legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.[/p][/quote]A complete distortion. Farage talks of only allowing the right "quality of people" into the country. It doesn't take a genius to deduce that he is talking about precisely the kind of minimum-waged eastern European care workers that Mr Gill has employed. As a side note, presumably Farage also considers British-born workers on minimum wage to be 'low quality' human beings too. Jimport
  • Score: 11

11:39am Thu 5 Jun 14

james peterson says...

Jimport wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Bill Chapman wrote:
It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.
I'm trying to see why he must resign or be flung out of UKIP.
UKIP policy on immigration is that immigrants must be working and paying into the system with valid work permits. This article states that all of that was in place. UKIP want to take back our border control and stop us ploughing 12 billion pounds a year into the European black hole. I think there is more conflict of interest with many MPs and their business involvements, cash for questions and expenses scandal then somebody who correctly and legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.
A complete distortion. Farage talks of only allowing the right "quality of people" into the country. It doesn't take a genius to deduce that he is talking about precisely the kind of minimum-waged eastern European care workers that Mr Gill has employed. As a side note, presumably Farage also considers British-born workers on minimum wage to be 'low quality' human beings too.
Farage talks about control of quality of skills needed in the UK . so if we need carers should we allow 1000's of building labours in if they are not required. under UKIP, European care workers would have to under go the same checks as the care workers from the Philippines, that they work along side everyday. I don't understand why this inequality is acceptable.
[quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill Chapman[/bold] wrote: It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.[/p][/quote]I'm trying to see why he must resign or be flung out of UKIP. UKIP policy on immigration is that immigrants must be working and paying into the system with valid work permits. This article states that all of that was in place. UKIP want to take back our border control and stop us ploughing 12 billion pounds a year into the European black hole. I think there is more conflict of interest with many MPs and their business involvements, cash for questions and expenses scandal then somebody who correctly and legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.[/p][/quote]A complete distortion. Farage talks of only allowing the right "quality of people" into the country. It doesn't take a genius to deduce that he is talking about precisely the kind of minimum-waged eastern European care workers that Mr Gill has employed. As a side note, presumably Farage also considers British-born workers on minimum wage to be 'low quality' human beings too.[/p][/quote]Farage talks about control of quality of skills needed in the UK . so if we need carers should we allow 1000's of building labours in if they are not required. under UKIP, European care workers would have to under go the same checks as the care workers from the Philippines, that they work along side everyday. I don't understand why this inequality is acceptable. james peterson
  • Score: 2

12:16pm Thu 5 Jun 14

JanJenkins says...

Can't you actually find some actual news. Every employer employs people from all over. If he refused to employ these people on the basis of their country of origin he could end up in prison.
Can't you actually find some actual news. Every employer employs people from all over. If he refused to employ these people on the basis of their country of origin he could end up in prison. JanJenkins
  • Score: 10

4:27pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Mike Roland says...

Dai Rear wrote:
Mike Roland wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
I employed Imelda Marcos. Had to sack her. She was changing her shoes 40 times a day
Wasn't that a Les Dawson joke? Anyway, wherever it came from, it wasn't funny 20 years ago and therefore has no chance today.
Quite right. I can't think of anything funny at all about my country being flooded with immigrants. Katie, above, as ever (bless!), has made a serious effort to raise a laugh with her tribute to the Tooting Popular Front but sorry Katie, you're often a side -splitter but there is nothing funny about immigration. It was proved by those prize mirth makers Blair 'n' Broon when they opened the floodgates. Stoney silence.
Now you've moved on into Bernard Manning territory. Nasty!!
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mike Roland[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: I employed Imelda Marcos. Had to sack her. She was changing her shoes 40 times a day[/p][/quote]Wasn't that a Les Dawson joke? Anyway, wherever it came from, it wasn't funny 20 years ago and therefore has no chance today.[/p][/quote]Quite right. I can't think of anything funny at all about my country being flooded with immigrants. Katie, above, as ever (bless!), has made a serious effort to raise a laugh with her tribute to the Tooting Popular Front but sorry Katie, you're often a side -splitter but there is nothing funny about immigration. It was proved by those prize mirth makers Blair 'n' Broon when they opened the floodgates. Stoney silence.[/p][/quote]Now you've moved on into Bernard Manning territory. Nasty!! Mike Roland
  • Score: 1

8:44pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

cornucopia of crapitude wrote:
I agree with Katie. It's the capitalist exploitation of people that's the rood cause (radix malorum etc).

(@Dai Rear - you may remember me in my previous incarnation as brynglas!)
No. But what a fundamental truth. No one was ever exploited by utopian dogma, like Mohammedanism, the mediaeval church, Stalinism etc. Original Sin began with Thomas Telford.
[quote][p][bold]cornucopia of crapitude[/bold] wrote: I agree with Katie. It's the capitalist exploitation of people that's the rood cause (radix malorum etc). (@Dai Rear - you may remember me in my previous incarnation as brynglas!)[/p][/quote]No. But what a fundamental truth. No one was ever exploited by utopian dogma, like Mohammedanism, the mediaeval church, Stalinism etc. Original Sin began with Thomas Telford. Dai Rear
  • Score: -16

10:54pm Thu 5 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit.
So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.
Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties.
Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we?
Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.
Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit. So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago. Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties. Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we? Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies. landyman3030
  • Score: -9

10:20am Fri 6 Jun 14

Jimport says...

landyman3030 wrote:
Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit.
So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.
Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties.
Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we?
Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.
It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit. So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago. Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties. Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we? Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.[/p][/quote]It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills. Jimport
  • Score: 14

10:42am Fri 6 Jun 14

BobEvams2014 says...

Reports indicate there were errors and irregularities in the count at Newark which would explain the UKIP loss, UKIP's own canvassing revealed that they were expecting to poll 99% at least of the vote, and are calling for a rerun of this obviously flawed election.

Nigel Farage commented 'we fought one hell of a campaign ' - considering he was in Malta for most of it .
Reports indicate there were errors and irregularities in the count at Newark which would explain the UKIP loss, UKIP's own canvassing revealed that they were expecting to poll 99% at least of the vote, and are calling for a rerun of this obviously flawed election. Nigel Farage commented 'we fought one hell of a campaign ' - considering he was in Malta for most of it . BobEvams2014
  • Score: 19

3:32pm Fri 6 Jun 14

welshmen says...

Jimport wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit.
So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.
Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties.
Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we?
Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.
It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.
I would sooner trust UKIP than any other of the robbing ars-holes, how you can defend those LIB/LAB/CON after what they have done between them over the last couple of decades, it repulses me and millions of other Britain's, you dare to say, " you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills". And what has your favourite party done for you and our Country, get your head out of the sand, or are you an EU immigrant? that would answer a few of your negative expletives against UKIP, UKIP like the other parties haven't produced their Manifesto yet for the 2015 election, anyone with any sense would wait for that out come before judging falsehoods and rumour, you keep voting for the same LIB/LAB/CON bullsh-ters we will vote for a change, also a change to rule our own Country as we see fit, not by a bunch of unelected EU Commissioners, as you seem to favour that scenario for our future....
[quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit. So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago. Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties. Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we? Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.[/p][/quote]It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.[/p][/quote]I would sooner trust UKIP than any other of the robbing ars-holes, how you can defend those LIB/LAB/CON after what they have done between them over the last couple of decades, it repulses me and millions of other Britain's, you dare to say, " you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills". And what has your favourite party done for you and our Country, get your head out of the sand, or are you an EU immigrant? that would answer a few of your negative expletives against UKIP, UKIP like the other parties haven't produced their Manifesto yet for the 2015 election, anyone with any sense would wait for that out come before judging falsehoods and rumour, you keep voting for the same LIB/LAB/CON bullsh-ters we will vote for a change, also a change to rule our own Country as we see fit, not by a bunch of unelected EU Commissioners, as you seem to favour that scenario for our future.... welshmen
  • Score: -17

4:36pm Fri 6 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

Jimport wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit.
So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.
Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties.
Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we?
Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.
It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.
Why not? I've trusted my wages ( stagnant ), my house price ( immaterial unless you need to use the housing market ), savings ( what are they? ), and energy bills ( through the roof because a certain party sold off the energy companies years ago ) to LabCon for my 27 years of voting.
And where has it got me?
See the above. I''l take my chances with little purple men if it get's this country back on the road to recovery and gives my children an opportunity to earn a reasonable living.
Never mind. In 24 years i can claim a pension which i can then get taxed on for a second time. Fun fun fun. Shoot me now.
[quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit. So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago. Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties. Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we? Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.[/p][/quote]It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.[/p][/quote]Why not? I've trusted my wages ( stagnant ), my house price ( immaterial unless you need to use the housing market ), savings ( what are they? ), and energy bills ( through the roof because a certain party sold off the energy companies years ago ) to LabCon for my 27 years of voting. And where has it got me? See the above. I''l take my chances with little purple men if it get's this country back on the road to recovery and gives my children an opportunity to earn a reasonable living. Never mind. In 24 years i can claim a pension which i can then get taxed on for a second time. Fun fun fun. Shoot me now. landyman3030
  • Score: -9

5:04pm Fri 6 Jun 14

jimmytheone2 says...

james peterson wrote:
Nathan gill pays above minimum wage to these worker and he offers cheap accommodation unlike some places I have worked where carers are on minimum wage and still need to pay high rent, electric and gas bills. Nathan is not exploiting these workers when comparing to other employers. however I do think that carers in general are under paid for the jobs they do and the service they provide.
Are you Nathan Gill's mum - or does he pay you to write this nonsense?
[quote][p][bold]james peterson[/bold] wrote: Nathan gill pays above minimum wage to these worker and he offers cheap accommodation unlike some places I have worked where carers are on minimum wage and still need to pay high rent, electric and gas bills. Nathan is not exploiting these workers when comparing to other employers. however I do think that carers in general are under paid for the jobs they do and the service they provide.[/p][/quote]Are you Nathan Gill's mum - or does he pay you to write this nonsense? jimmytheone2
  • Score: 4

5:11pm Fri 6 Jun 14

jimmytheone2 says...

james peterson wrote:
I think this is a case of dammed if you do and dammed if you don't . if he did not employ immigrates then he (UKIP) are racists and because he does he is a hypocrite even thou UKIP is against mass UNCONTROLED immigration not controlled immigration with work permits. this article proves that UKIP is NOT racists.

However it is a shame that the South Wales Argus can not tell the difference between "anti immigration" and anti uncontrolled immigration.
Why have a go at the Argus? They are reporting facts, not passing any judgement at all. I think you're firing at the wrong target there.

I'm baffled by how you think the article proves that UKIP are not racists. I don't think the articles proves anything as it reports the facts - you, and others can and will draw your own conclusions.
[quote][p][bold]james peterson[/bold] wrote: I think this is a case of dammed if you do and dammed if you don't . if he did not employ immigrates then he (UKIP) are racists and because he does he is a hypocrite even thou UKIP is against mass UNCONTROLED immigration not controlled immigration with work permits. this article proves that UKIP is NOT racists. However it is a shame that the South Wales Argus can not tell the difference between "anti immigration" and anti uncontrolled immigration.[/p][/quote]Why have a go at the Argus? They are reporting facts, not passing any judgement at all. I think you're firing at the wrong target there. I'm baffled by how you think the article proves that UKIP are not racists. I don't think the articles proves anything as it reports the facts - you, and others can and will draw your own conclusions. jimmytheone2
  • Score: 12

5:21pm Fri 6 Jun 14

jimmytheone2 says...

welshmen wrote:
Jimport wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit.
So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.
Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties.
Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we?
Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.
It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.
I would sooner trust UKIP than any other of the robbing ars-holes, how you can defend those LIB/LAB/CON after what they have done between them over the last couple of decades, it repulses me and millions of other Britain's, you dare to say, " you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills". And what has your favourite party done for you and our Country, get your head out of the sand, or are you an EU immigrant? that would answer a few of your negative expletives against UKIP, UKIP like the other parties haven't produced their Manifesto yet for the 2015 election, anyone with any sense would wait for that out come before judging falsehoods and rumour, you keep voting for the same LIB/LAB/CON bullsh-ters we will vote for a change, also a change to rule our own Country as we see fit, not by a bunch of unelected EU Commissioners, as you seem to favour that scenario for our future....
Another meltdown by Welshmen.
Anyone who doesn't agree with him is an 'EU immigrant' or a 'UK hater'.
He's such a tolerant person - as long as you agree with his extremist views.
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit. So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago. Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties. Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we? Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.[/p][/quote]It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.[/p][/quote]I would sooner trust UKIP than any other of the robbing ars-holes, how you can defend those LIB/LAB/CON after what they have done between them over the last couple of decades, it repulses me and millions of other Britain's, you dare to say, " you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills". And what has your favourite party done for you and our Country, get your head out of the sand, or are you an EU immigrant? that would answer a few of your negative expletives against UKIP, UKIP like the other parties haven't produced their Manifesto yet for the 2015 election, anyone with any sense would wait for that out come before judging falsehoods and rumour, you keep voting for the same LIB/LAB/CON bullsh-ters we will vote for a change, also a change to rule our own Country as we see fit, not by a bunch of unelected EU Commissioners, as you seem to favour that scenario for our future....[/p][/quote]Another meltdown by Welshmen. Anyone who doesn't agree with him is an 'EU immigrant' or a 'UK hater'. He's such a tolerant person - as long as you agree with his extremist views. jimmytheone2
  • Score: 26

5:45pm Fri 6 Jun 14

welshmen says...

jimmytheone2 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
Jimport wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit.
So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.
Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties.
Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we?
Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.
It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.
I would sooner trust UKIP than any other of the robbing ars-holes, how you can defend those LIB/LAB/CON after what they have done between them over the last couple of decades, it repulses me and millions of other Britain's, you dare to say, " you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills". And what has your favourite party done for you and our Country, get your head out of the sand, or are you an EU immigrant? that would answer a few of your negative expletives against UKIP, UKIP like the other parties haven't produced their Manifesto yet for the 2015 election, anyone with any sense would wait for that out come before judging falsehoods and rumour, you keep voting for the same LIB/LAB/CON bullsh-ters we will vote for a change, also a change to rule our own Country as we see fit, not by a bunch of unelected EU Commissioners, as you seem to favour that scenario for our future....
Another meltdown by Welshmen.
Anyone who doesn't agree with him is an 'EU immigrant' or a 'UK hater'.
He's such a tolerant person - as long as you agree with his extremist views.
Is that all you got, just a whinge, never mind agreeing with me, what's good about the EU tell us, don't just moan at UKIP, what's your Party going to do or are you one of Mr Angry's non voting moaners....
[quote][p][bold]jimmytheone2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit. So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago. Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties. Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we? Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.[/p][/quote]It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.[/p][/quote]I would sooner trust UKIP than any other of the robbing ars-holes, how you can defend those LIB/LAB/CON after what they have done between them over the last couple of decades, it repulses me and millions of other Britain's, you dare to say, " you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills". And what has your favourite party done for you and our Country, get your head out of the sand, or are you an EU immigrant? that would answer a few of your negative expletives against UKIP, UKIP like the other parties haven't produced their Manifesto yet for the 2015 election, anyone with any sense would wait for that out come before judging falsehoods and rumour, you keep voting for the same LIB/LAB/CON bullsh-ters we will vote for a change, also a change to rule our own Country as we see fit, not by a bunch of unelected EU Commissioners, as you seem to favour that scenario for our future....[/p][/quote]Another meltdown by Welshmen. Anyone who doesn't agree with him is an 'EU immigrant' or a 'UK hater'. He's such a tolerant person - as long as you agree with his extremist views.[/p][/quote]Is that all you got, just a whinge, never mind agreeing with me, what's good about the EU tell us, don't just moan at UKIP, what's your Party going to do or are you one of Mr Angry's non voting moaners.... welshmen
  • Score: -24

5:50pm Fri 6 Jun 14

welshmen says...

jimmytheone2 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
Jimport wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit.
So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.
Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties.
Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we?
Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.
It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.
I would sooner trust UKIP than any other of the robbing ars-holes, how you can defend those LIB/LAB/CON after what they have done between them over the last couple of decades, it repulses me and millions of other Britain's, you dare to say, " you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills". And what has your favourite party done for you and our Country, get your head out of the sand, or are you an EU immigrant? that would answer a few of your negative expletives against UKIP, UKIP like the other parties haven't produced their Manifesto yet for the 2015 election, anyone with any sense would wait for that out come before judging falsehoods and rumour, you keep voting for the same LIB/LAB/CON bullsh-ters we will vote for a change, also a change to rule our own Country as we see fit, not by a bunch of unelected EU Commissioners, as you seem to favour that scenario for our future....
Another meltdown by Welshmen.
Anyone who doesn't agree with him is an 'EU immigrant' or a 'UK hater'.
He's such a tolerant person - as long as you agree with his extremist views.
You say:
"He's such a tolerant person - as long as you agree with his extremist views"

What's extremist about wanting to Govern our own Country in favour of the European Union Commission ?.....
[quote][p][bold]jimmytheone2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit. So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago. Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties. Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we? Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.[/p][/quote]It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.[/p][/quote]I would sooner trust UKIP than any other of the robbing ars-holes, how you can defend those LIB/LAB/CON after what they have done between them over the last couple of decades, it repulses me and millions of other Britain's, you dare to say, " you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills". And what has your favourite party done for you and our Country, get your head out of the sand, or are you an EU immigrant? that would answer a few of your negative expletives against UKIP, UKIP like the other parties haven't produced their Manifesto yet for the 2015 election, anyone with any sense would wait for that out come before judging falsehoods and rumour, you keep voting for the same LIB/LAB/CON bullsh-ters we will vote for a change, also a change to rule our own Country as we see fit, not by a bunch of unelected EU Commissioners, as you seem to favour that scenario for our future....[/p][/quote]Another meltdown by Welshmen. Anyone who doesn't agree with him is an 'EU immigrant' or a 'UK hater'. He's such a tolerant person - as long as you agree with his extremist views.[/p][/quote]You say: "He's such a tolerant person - as long as you agree with his extremist views" What's extremist about wanting to Govern our own Country in favour of the European Union Commission ?..... welshmen
  • Score: -21

5:53pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Llanmartinangel says...

MEP caught in obeying the law scandal. I can think of bigger things to obsess about.
MEP caught in obeying the law scandal. I can think of bigger things to obsess about. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: -12

6:43pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Mervyn James says...

Bill Chapman wrote:
It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.
Rubbish ! Half the MP's in Westminster migrants...... including the Home office Minister lol Trying to make the UKIP look as bad is going to take another 50 years, with the scams the Two Party systems have been operating for that time. Who can forget the Duck Hotel, using family to avoid taxes,get London Homes paid for by us etc etc....
[quote][p][bold]Bill Chapman[/bold] wrote: It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.[/p][/quote]Rubbish ! Half the MP's in Westminster migrants...... including the Home office Minister lol Trying to make the UKIP look as bad is going to take another 50 years, with the scams the Two Party systems have been operating for that time. Who can forget the Duck Hotel, using family to avoid taxes,get London Homes paid for by us etc etc.... Mervyn James
  • Score: -1

8:14pm Fri 6 Jun 14

jimmytheone2 says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
MEP caught in obeying the law scandal. I can think of bigger things to obsess about.
But when you campaign on 1 issue (that's all UKIP have - nowt else), that issue being immigration taking UK jobs - and then you personally profit from employing (I assume) low paid immigrants - that might be just a little bit hypocritical.
But it's legal, so he's perfectly entitled to do it, I have no problem with that. But look at his quoted words above - "we had to employ carers from the Phillipines".
Just ask yourself why that is? Are these immigrants really taking jobs from local people? Doesn't seem like it according to Nathan.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: MEP caught in obeying the law scandal. I can think of bigger things to obsess about.[/p][/quote]But when you campaign on 1 issue (that's all UKIP have - nowt else), that issue being immigration taking UK jobs - and then you personally profit from employing (I assume) low paid immigrants - that might be just a little bit hypocritical. But it's legal, so he's perfectly entitled to do it, I have no problem with that. But look at his quoted words above - "we had to employ carers from the Phillipines". Just ask yourself why that is? Are these immigrants really taking jobs from local people? Doesn't seem like it according to Nathan. jimmytheone2
  • Score: 11

10:13pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

Bill Chapman wrote:
It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.
Why? UKIP is against mass migration to the UK. If migrants are here legally they should be treated equally
[quote][p][bold]Bill Chapman[/bold] wrote: It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.[/p][/quote]Why? UKIP is against mass migration to the UK. If migrants are here legally they should be treated equally Bobevans
  • Score: -1

10:16pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Capitalists employ immigrant workers because they are not legally obligated to pay them the same equal wages with non-immigrant workers. A way to end this unfair, exploitative and damaging practice would be for the Equal Pay Act to be extended so that the law makes it just as illegal to pay workers different rates of pay on the grounds of nationality as it is currently illegal to pay a male worker more than a female worker. However, as a notoriously anti-working class British workplace employment law cannot after over 40 years seem to even do the latter, the bottom line is that we need to elect a government which will take fair play in the workplace much more seriously and that will implement equal pay legislation that means just that. I feel people would do better to direct their anger at unscrupulous bosses who have nothing but contempt for all workers instead of swallowing the divisive line given by their capitalist Ukip lackeys that their jobs are being taken by immigrants etc.
You are gain totally wrong. The same minimum pay rates apply to migrants
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Capitalists employ immigrant workers because they are not legally obligated to pay them the same equal wages with non-immigrant workers. A way to end this unfair, exploitative and damaging practice would be for the Equal Pay Act to be extended so that the law makes it just as illegal to pay workers different rates of pay on the grounds of nationality as it is currently illegal to pay a male worker more than a female worker. However, as a notoriously anti-working class British workplace employment law cannot after over 40 years seem to even do the latter, the bottom line is that we need to elect a government which will take fair play in the workplace much more seriously and that will implement equal pay legislation that means just that. I feel people would do better to direct their anger at unscrupulous bosses who have nothing but contempt for all workers instead of swallowing the divisive line given by their capitalist Ukip lackeys that their jobs are being taken by immigrants etc.[/p][/quote]You are gain totally wrong. The same minimum pay rates apply to migrants Bobevans
  • Score: -3

10:16pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
Capitalists employ immigrant workers because they are not legally obligated to pay them the same equal wages with non-immigrant workers. A way to end this unfair, exploitative and damaging practice would be for the Equal Pay Act to be extended so that the law makes it just as illegal to pay workers different rates of pay on the grounds of nationality as it is currently illegal to pay a male worker more than a female worker. However, as a notoriously anti-working class British workplace employment law cannot after over 40 years seem to even do the latter, the bottom line is that we need to elect a government which will take fair play in the workplace much more seriously and that will implement equal pay legislation that means just that. I feel people would do better to direct their anger at unscrupulous bosses who have nothing but contempt for all workers instead of swallowing the divisive line given by their capitalist Ukip lackeys that their jobs are being taken by immigrants etc.
You are gain totally wrong. The same minimum pay rates apply to migrants
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: Capitalists employ immigrant workers because they are not legally obligated to pay them the same equal wages with non-immigrant workers. A way to end this unfair, exploitative and damaging practice would be for the Equal Pay Act to be extended so that the law makes it just as illegal to pay workers different rates of pay on the grounds of nationality as it is currently illegal to pay a male worker more than a female worker. However, as a notoriously anti-working class British workplace employment law cannot after over 40 years seem to even do the latter, the bottom line is that we need to elect a government which will take fair play in the workplace much more seriously and that will implement equal pay legislation that means just that. I feel people would do better to direct their anger at unscrupulous bosses who have nothing but contempt for all workers instead of swallowing the divisive line given by their capitalist Ukip lackeys that their jobs are being taken by immigrants etc.[/p][/quote]You are gain totally wrong. The same minimum pay rates apply to migrants Bobevans
  • Score: 0

10:18pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

Jimport wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit.
So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.
Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties.
Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we?
Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.
It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.
It does not fly in the face of any UKIP policy. The UKIP policy is of controlling mass migration to the UK. It does not impact migrants already in the UK legally
[quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit. So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago. Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties. Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we? Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.[/p][/quote]It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.[/p][/quote]It does not fly in the face of any UKIP policy. The UKIP policy is of controlling mass migration to the UK. It does not impact migrants already in the UK legally Bobevans
  • Score: -3

10:18pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

Jimport wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit.
So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.
Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties.
Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we?
Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.
It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.
It does not fly in the face of any UKIP policy. The UKIP policy is of controlling mass migration to the UK. It does not impact migrants already in the UK legally
[quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit. So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago. Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties. Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we? Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.[/p][/quote]It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.[/p][/quote]It does not fly in the face of any UKIP policy. The UKIP policy is of controlling mass migration to the UK. It does not impact migrants already in the UK legally Bobevans
  • Score: -5

10:22pm Fri 6 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

Mervyn James wrote:
Bill Chapman wrote:
It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.
Rubbish ! Half the MP's in Westminster migrants...... including the Home office Minister lol Trying to make the UKIP look as bad is going to take another 50 years, with the scams the Two Party systems have been operating for that time. Who can forget the Duck Hotel, using family to avoid taxes,get London Homes paid for by us etc etc....
The BBC and media have made little mention of the Labour councillor arrested for molesting children

UKIP unlike the other parties takes a strong line where any member brings the party into disrepute . Where that happens the member is immediately suspended whilst a disciplinary enquiry takes place. If the allegations are proven they are kicked out. Normally this only takes a few weeks.
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill Chapman[/bold] wrote: It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.[/p][/quote]Rubbish ! Half the MP's in Westminster migrants...... including the Home office Minister lol Trying to make the UKIP look as bad is going to take another 50 years, with the scams the Two Party systems have been operating for that time. Who can forget the Duck Hotel, using family to avoid taxes,get London Homes paid for by us etc etc....[/p][/quote]The BBC and media have made little mention of the Labour councillor arrested for molesting children UKIP unlike the other parties takes a strong line where any member brings the party into disrepute . Where that happens the member is immediately suspended whilst a disciplinary enquiry takes place. If the allegations are proven they are kicked out. Normally this only takes a few weeks. Bobevans
  • Score: -8

10:39pm Fri 6 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
MEP caught in obeying the law scandal. I can think of bigger things to obsess about.
Good post. Some of these posts just prove how desperate some posters are to jump at UKIPs throat. It's almost as if they are rattled by the fox in the chicken house.
Like Mervyn has correctly posted, remember the Duck Island and second homes and the like. I know I'm a little bit numb to politicians dishonesty and greed. It's almost expected or even a requirement for the job these days.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: MEP caught in obeying the law scandal. I can think of bigger things to obsess about.[/p][/quote]Good post. Some of these posts just prove how desperate some posters are to jump at UKIPs throat. It's almost as if they are rattled by the fox in the chicken house. Like Mervyn has correctly posted, remember the Duck Island and second homes and the like. I know I'm a little bit numb to politicians dishonesty and greed. It's almost expected or even a requirement for the job these days. landyman3030
  • Score: -6

10:53pm Fri 6 Jun 14

BobEvams2014 says...

Bobevans wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
Bill Chapman wrote:
It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.
Rubbish ! Half the MP's in Westminster migrants...... including the Home office Minister lol Trying to make the UKIP look as bad is going to take another 50 years, with the scams the Two Party systems have been operating for that time. Who can forget the Duck Hotel, using family to avoid taxes,get London Homes paid for by us etc etc....
The BBC and media have made little mention of the Labour councillor arrested for molesting children

UKIP unlike the other parties takes a strong line where any member brings the party into disrepute . Where that happens the member is immediately suspended whilst a disciplinary enquiry takes place. If the allegations are proven they are kicked out. Normally this only takes a few weeks.
A leading UKIP figure, an MEP from the South East of England has reportedly used the 'N' word in describing a section of electorate, despite the seriousness of the allegation no investigation has yet taken place, rumours are circulating of a cover up
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill Chapman[/bold] wrote: It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.[/p][/quote]Rubbish ! Half the MP's in Westminster migrants...... including the Home office Minister lol Trying to make the UKIP look as bad is going to take another 50 years, with the scams the Two Party systems have been operating for that time. Who can forget the Duck Hotel, using family to avoid taxes,get London Homes paid for by us etc etc....[/p][/quote]The BBC and media have made little mention of the Labour councillor arrested for molesting children UKIP unlike the other parties takes a strong line where any member brings the party into disrepute . Where that happens the member is immediately suspended whilst a disciplinary enquiry takes place. If the allegations are proven they are kicked out. Normally this only takes a few weeks.[/p][/quote]A leading UKIP figure, an MEP from the South East of England has reportedly used the 'N' word in describing a section of electorate, despite the seriousness of the allegation no investigation has yet taken place, rumours are circulating of a cover up BobEvams2014
  • Score: 5

10:55pm Fri 6 Jun 14

jimmytheone2 says...

Bobevans wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
Bill Chapman wrote:
It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.
Rubbish ! Half the MP's in Westminster migrants...... including the Home office Minister lol Trying to make the UKIP look as bad is going to take another 50 years, with the scams the Two Party systems have been operating for that time. Who can forget the Duck Hotel, using family to avoid taxes,get London Homes paid for by us etc etc....
The BBC and media have made little mention of the Labour councillor arrested for molesting children

UKIP unlike the other parties takes a strong line where any member brings the party into disrepute . Where that happens the member is immediately suspended whilst a disciplinary enquiry takes place. If the allegations are proven they are kicked out. Normally this only takes a few weeks.
Someone told you Father Xmas was real last week, and you've been writing to him every day since. C'mon Bob, stop the boot licking and think for yourself.
"normally this only takes a few weeks" - ****, I'm impressed, that's stunning, we can sleep sound knowing the country's in the safe hands of UKIP - and their 1 policy.
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill Chapman[/bold] wrote: It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.[/p][/quote]Rubbish ! Half the MP's in Westminster migrants...... including the Home office Minister lol Trying to make the UKIP look as bad is going to take another 50 years, with the scams the Two Party systems have been operating for that time. Who can forget the Duck Hotel, using family to avoid taxes,get London Homes paid for by us etc etc....[/p][/quote]The BBC and media have made little mention of the Labour councillor arrested for molesting children UKIP unlike the other parties takes a strong line where any member brings the party into disrepute . Where that happens the member is immediately suspended whilst a disciplinary enquiry takes place. If the allegations are proven they are kicked out. Normally this only takes a few weeks.[/p][/quote]Someone told you Father Xmas was real last week, and you've been writing to him every day since. C'mon Bob, stop the boot licking and think for yourself. "normally this only takes a few weeks" - ****, I'm impressed, that's stunning, we can sleep sound knowing the country's in the safe hands of UKIP - and their 1 policy. jimmytheone2
  • Score: 8

11:03pm Fri 6 Jun 14

BobEvams2014 says...

A highly inaccurate, bias and misleading poll has mistakingly stated that there is majority in favour of staying in the EU

http://yougov.co.uk/
news/2014/03/26/eu-
referendum-highest-l
ead-two-years/

WHen UKIP win the next general election dangerous information like this will not be published, all polling figures will be scrutinised, approved and if required amended for accuracy by the One True Leader before publiction.
A highly inaccurate, bias and misleading poll has mistakingly stated that there is majority in favour of staying in the EU http://yougov.co.uk/ news/2014/03/26/eu- referendum-highest-l ead-two-years/ WHen UKIP win the next general election dangerous information like this will not be published, all polling figures will be scrutinised, approved and if required amended for accuracy by the One True Leader before publiction. BobEvams2014
  • Score: -3

8:24am Sat 7 Jun 14

Llanmartinangel says...

jimmytheone2 wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
MEP caught in obeying the law scandal. I can think of bigger things to obsess about.
But when you campaign on 1 issue (that's all UKIP have - nowt else), that issue being immigration taking UK jobs - and then you personally profit from employing (I assume) low paid immigrants - that might be just a little bit hypocritical.
But it's legal, so he's perfectly entitled to do it, I have no problem with that. But look at his quoted words above - "we had to employ carers from the Phillipines".
Just ask yourself why that is? Are these immigrants really taking jobs from local people? Doesn't seem like it according to Nathan.
Well I was referring really to the dichotomy of where Baroness Scotland (you know her, the multi-millionairess Labour front bencher), employed an illegal migrant in her household and didn't even resign when caught. Worse because Lady Scotland was Attorney General at the time. This story seems minor to me by comparison.
[quote][p][bold]jimmytheone2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: MEP caught in obeying the law scandal. I can think of bigger things to obsess about.[/p][/quote]But when you campaign on 1 issue (that's all UKIP have - nowt else), that issue being immigration taking UK jobs - and then you personally profit from employing (I assume) low paid immigrants - that might be just a little bit hypocritical. But it's legal, so he's perfectly entitled to do it, I have no problem with that. But look at his quoted words above - "we had to employ carers from the Phillipines". Just ask yourself why that is? Are these immigrants really taking jobs from local people? Doesn't seem like it according to Nathan.[/p][/quote]Well I was referring really to the dichotomy of where Baroness Scotland (you know her, the multi-millionairess Labour front bencher), employed an illegal migrant in her household and didn't even resign when caught. Worse because Lady Scotland was Attorney General at the time. This story seems minor to me by comparison. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: -8

9:58am Sat 7 Jun 14

Mervyn James says...

BobEvams2014 wrote:
A highly inaccurate, bias and misleading poll has mistakingly stated that there is majority in favour of staying in the EU

http://yougov.co.uk/

news/2014/03/26/eu-
referendum-highest-l

ead-two-years/

WHen UKIP win the next general election dangerous information like this will not be published, all polling figures will be scrutinised, approved and if required amended for accuracy by the One True Leader before publiction.
Is like the poll that declared wales is begging Scotland not to go for Independence ? Has anyone here even been asked..... If we believe surveys (Most of us don't), then the majority are for leaving. The only way is a referendum to sort it out. The UKIP at present would stand to win the out of Europe argument.
[quote][p][bold]BobEvams2014[/bold] wrote: A highly inaccurate, bias and misleading poll has mistakingly stated that there is majority in favour of staying in the EU http://yougov.co.uk/ news/2014/03/26/eu- referendum-highest-l ead-two-years/ WHen UKIP win the next general election dangerous information like this will not be published, all polling figures will be scrutinised, approved and if required amended for accuracy by the One True Leader before publiction.[/p][/quote]Is like the poll that declared wales is begging Scotland not to go for Independence ? Has anyone here even been asked..... If we believe surveys (Most of us don't), then the majority are for leaving. The only way is a referendum to sort it out. The UKIP at present would stand to win the out of Europe argument. Mervyn James
  • Score: -2

11:29am Sat 7 Jun 14

welshmen says...

The old red rosetters humming "well'll keep the red flag flying here" out in force still smarting at losing the EU election.....
The old red rosetters humming "well'll keep the red flag flying here" out in force still smarting at losing the EU election..... welshmen
  • Score: -5

11:52am Sat 7 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

UKIP's 2014 Local Manifesto

http://d3n8a8pro7vhm
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mes/5308a93901925b5b
09000002/attachments
/original/1397750311
/localmanifesto2014.
pdf?1397750311
UKIP's 2014 Local Manifesto http://d3n8a8pro7vhm x.cloudfront.net/the mes/5308a93901925b5b 09000002/attachments /original/1397750311 /localmanifesto2014. pdf?1397750311 Bobevans
  • Score: -8

2:36pm Sat 7 Jun 14

jimmytheone2 says...

Mervyn James wrote:
BobEvams2014 wrote:
A highly inaccurate, bias and misleading poll has mistakingly stated that there is majority in favour of staying in the EU

http://yougov.co.uk/


news/2014/03/26/eu-
referendum-highest-l


ead-two-years/

WHen UKIP win the next general election dangerous information like this will not be published, all polling figures will be scrutinised, approved and if required amended for accuracy by the One True Leader before publiction.
Is like the poll that declared wales is begging Scotland not to go for Independence ? Has anyone here even been asked..... If we believe surveys (Most of us don't), then the majority are for leaving. The only way is a referendum to sort it out. The UKIP at present would stand to win the out of Europe argument.
You know best Merv.
Polls eh, load of rubbish, what do they know!
You and your mate Welshmen, you know better. You've got your fingers on the political pulse. Would love to see you and Welshmen on the telly telling us like it is. Just what this county needs - some real insight from the 2 sharpest minds in Europe.
Cannon & Ball.
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BobEvams2014[/bold] wrote: A highly inaccurate, bias and misleading poll has mistakingly stated that there is majority in favour of staying in the EU http://yougov.co.uk/ news/2014/03/26/eu- referendum-highest-l ead-two-years/ WHen UKIP win the next general election dangerous information like this will not be published, all polling figures will be scrutinised, approved and if required amended for accuracy by the One True Leader before publiction.[/p][/quote]Is like the poll that declared wales is begging Scotland not to go for Independence ? Has anyone here even been asked..... If we believe surveys (Most of us don't), then the majority are for leaving. The only way is a referendum to sort it out. The UKIP at present would stand to win the out of Europe argument.[/p][/quote]You know best Merv. Polls eh, load of rubbish, what do they know! You and your mate Welshmen, you know better. You've got your fingers on the political pulse. Would love to see you and Welshmen on the telly telling us like it is. Just what this county needs - some real insight from the 2 sharpest minds in Europe. Cannon & Ball. jimmytheone2
  • Score: 4

9:22pm Sat 7 Jun 14

cymruamblyth says...

jimmytheone2 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
Jimport wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit.
So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.
Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties.
Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we?
Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.
It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.
I would sooner trust UKIP than any other of the robbing ars-holes, how you can defend those LIB/LAB/CON after what they have done between them over the last couple of decades, it repulses me and millions of other Britain's, you dare to say, " you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills". And what has your favourite party done for you and our Country, get your head out of the sand, or are you an EU immigrant? that would answer a few of your negative expletives against UKIP, UKIP like the other parties haven't produced their Manifesto yet for the 2015 election, anyone with any sense would wait for that out come before judging falsehoods and rumour, you keep voting for the same LIB/LAB/CON bullsh-ters we will vote for a change, also a change to rule our own Country as we see fit, not by a bunch of unelected EU Commissioners, as you seem to favour that scenario for our future....
Another meltdown by Welshmen.
Anyone who doesn't agree with him is an 'EU immigrant' or a 'UK hater'.
He's such a tolerant person - as long as you agree with his extremist views.
Kind of like you apart from anybody who disagrees with you is a racist or fascist.. At least he use's his own name!

Would you say half off what you say behind your PC to a load of strangers in the pub?
[quote][p][bold]jimmytheone2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit. So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago. Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties. Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we? Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.[/p][/quote]It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.[/p][/quote]I would sooner trust UKIP than any other of the robbing ars-holes, how you can defend those LIB/LAB/CON after what they have done between them over the last couple of decades, it repulses me and millions of other Britain's, you dare to say, " you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills". And what has your favourite party done for you and our Country, get your head out of the sand, or are you an EU immigrant? that would answer a few of your negative expletives against UKIP, UKIP like the other parties haven't produced their Manifesto yet for the 2015 election, anyone with any sense would wait for that out come before judging falsehoods and rumour, you keep voting for the same LIB/LAB/CON bullsh-ters we will vote for a change, also a change to rule our own Country as we see fit, not by a bunch of unelected EU Commissioners, as you seem to favour that scenario for our future....[/p][/quote]Another meltdown by Welshmen. Anyone who doesn't agree with him is an 'EU immigrant' or a 'UK hater'. He's such a tolerant person - as long as you agree with his extremist views.[/p][/quote]Kind of like you apart from anybody who disagrees with you is a racist or fascist.. At least he use's his own name! Would you say half off what you say behind your PC to a load of strangers in the pub? cymruamblyth
  • Score: 0

10:12pm Sat 7 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

BobEvams2014 wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
Bill Chapman wrote:
It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.
Rubbish ! Half the MP's in Westminster migrants...... including the Home office Minister lol Trying to make the UKIP look as bad is going to take another 50 years, with the scams the Two Party systems have been operating for that time. Who can forget the Duck Hotel, using family to avoid taxes,get London Homes paid for by us etc etc....
The BBC and media have made little mention of the Labour councillor arrested for molesting children

UKIP unlike the other parties takes a strong line where any member brings the party into disrepute . Where that happens the member is immediately suspended whilst a disciplinary enquiry takes place. If the allegations are proven they are kicked out. Normally this only takes a few weeks.
A leading UKIP figure, an MEP from the South East of England has reportedly used the 'N' word in describing a section of electorate, despite the seriousness of the allegation no investigation has yet taken place, rumours are circulating of a cover up
....has reportedly used....allegation..
...rumours are circulating......com
e on.
Is that all you can't trollout?
So the old Baroness is alright to break the law and keep her position but UKIP legally employ and they are vilified and crucified.
All you LabConLib Plaid voters must really be squeezing your little tushes together judging by the oh so accurate Argus voting system.
Lot's of negatives when the truth is posted and lot's of positives when the **** flies. Sounds very similar to those parties policies.
If anybody can support this double standard without smirking you ought to play professional poker.
[quote][p][bold]BobEvams2014[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill Chapman[/bold] wrote: It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.[/p][/quote]Rubbish ! Half the MP's in Westminster migrants...... including the Home office Minister lol Trying to make the UKIP look as bad is going to take another 50 years, with the scams the Two Party systems have been operating for that time. Who can forget the Duck Hotel, using family to avoid taxes,get London Homes paid for by us etc etc....[/p][/quote]The BBC and media have made little mention of the Labour councillor arrested for molesting children UKIP unlike the other parties takes a strong line where any member brings the party into disrepute . Where that happens the member is immediately suspended whilst a disciplinary enquiry takes place. If the allegations are proven they are kicked out. Normally this only takes a few weeks.[/p][/quote]A leading UKIP figure, an MEP from the South East of England has reportedly used the 'N' word in describing a section of electorate, despite the seriousness of the allegation no investigation has yet taken place, rumours are circulating of a cover up[/p][/quote]....has reportedly used....allegation.. ...rumours are circulating......com e on. Is that all you can't trollout? So the old Baroness is alright to break the law and keep her position but UKIP legally employ and they are vilified and crucified. All you LabConLib Plaid voters must really be squeezing your little tushes together judging by the oh so accurate Argus voting system. Lot's of negatives when the truth is posted and lot's of positives when the **** flies. Sounds very similar to those parties policies. If anybody can support this double standard without smirking you ought to play professional poker. landyman3030
  • Score: -8

11:54am Sun 8 Jun 14

Mr Angry says...

landyman3030 wrote:
BobEvams2014 wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
Bill Chapman wrote:
It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.
Rubbish ! Half the MP's in Westminster migrants...... including the Home office Minister lol Trying to make the UKIP look as bad is going to take another 50 years, with the scams the Two Party systems have been operating for that time. Who can forget the Duck Hotel, using family to avoid taxes,get London Homes paid for by us etc etc....
The BBC and media have made little mention of the Labour councillor arrested for molesting children

UKIP unlike the other parties takes a strong line where any member brings the party into disrepute . Where that happens the member is immediately suspended whilst a disciplinary enquiry takes place. If the allegations are proven they are kicked out. Normally this only takes a few weeks.
A leading UKIP figure, an MEP from the South East of England has reportedly used the 'N' word in describing a section of electorate, despite the seriousness of the allegation no investigation has yet taken place, rumours are circulating of a cover up
....has reportedly used....allegation..

...rumours are circulating......com

e on.
Is that all you can't trollout?
So the old Baroness is alright to break the law and keep her position but UKIP legally employ and they are vilified and crucified.
All you LabConLib Plaid voters must really be squeezing your little tushes together judging by the oh so accurate Argus voting system.
Lot's of negatives when the truth is posted and lot's of positives when the **** flies. Sounds very similar to those parties policies.
If anybody can support this double standard without smirking you ought to play professional poker.
Firstly as has been stated elsewhere this thread is about UKIP, not the other parties, none of whom are worth voting foranyway so please dont start the 'what about so and so who done whatever ' reponse.

The Daily Mail ( hardly a left leaning paper ) on the 19th May stated the following
' The founder of Ukip last night revived claims that Nigel Farage repeatedly used the n-word when referring to black voters – as the party was plunged into turmoil over allegations of racism.

Professor Alan Sked said a storm of controversy provoked by Mr Farage’s remarks last week about Romanians ‘backs up what I have always said’ about the Ukip leader’s private views on race.

‘He told me, “We needn’t worry about the n****r vote”,’ Professor Sked told the Daily Mail. ‘He added: “The n**-n**s will never vote for us'

Now Farage has denied saying this, and has made threats to sue, but hasn't, if he was so outraged he would have sued, maybe he won't sue because he knows he cant win, or has something to hide.

So tell me is it acceptable for the leader of a Poltical Party in this Counrty to use the N word ?

I dont vote because party politics is tedious and at times pathetic, Lib Lab Con I find irritating, the thought of UKIP getting anywhere near power I find frightning
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BobEvams2014[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bill Chapman[/bold] wrote: It is time for Nathan Gill to resign his seat and withdraw in shame. If he doesn't then Farage have to dismiss him from the party.[/p][/quote]Rubbish ! Half the MP's in Westminster migrants...... including the Home office Minister lol Trying to make the UKIP look as bad is going to take another 50 years, with the scams the Two Party systems have been operating for that time. Who can forget the Duck Hotel, using family to avoid taxes,get London Homes paid for by us etc etc....[/p][/quote]The BBC and media have made little mention of the Labour councillor arrested for molesting children UKIP unlike the other parties takes a strong line where any member brings the party into disrepute . Where that happens the member is immediately suspended whilst a disciplinary enquiry takes place. If the allegations are proven they are kicked out. Normally this only takes a few weeks.[/p][/quote]A leading UKIP figure, an MEP from the South East of England has reportedly used the 'N' word in describing a section of electorate, despite the seriousness of the allegation no investigation has yet taken place, rumours are circulating of a cover up[/p][/quote]....has reportedly used....allegation.. ...rumours are circulating......com e on. Is that all you can't trollout? So the old Baroness is alright to break the law and keep her position but UKIP legally employ and they are vilified and crucified. All you LabConLib Plaid voters must really be squeezing your little tushes together judging by the oh so accurate Argus voting system. Lot's of negatives when the truth is posted and lot's of positives when the **** flies. Sounds very similar to those parties policies. If anybody can support this double standard without smirking you ought to play professional poker.[/p][/quote]Firstly as has been stated elsewhere this thread is about UKIP, not the other parties, none of whom are worth voting foranyway so please dont start the 'what about so and so who done whatever ' reponse. The Daily Mail ( hardly a left leaning paper ) on the 19th May stated the following ' The founder of Ukip last night revived claims that Nigel Farage repeatedly used the n-word when referring to black voters – as the party was plunged into turmoil over allegations of racism. Professor Alan Sked said a storm of controversy provoked by Mr Farage’s remarks last week about Romanians ‘backs up what I have always said’ about the Ukip leader’s private views on race. ‘He told me, “We needn’t worry about the n****r vote”,’ Professor Sked told the Daily Mail. ‘He added: “The n**-n**s will never vote for us' Now Farage has denied saying this, and has made threats to sue, but hasn't, if he was so outraged he would have sued, maybe he won't sue because he knows he cant win, or has something to hide. So tell me is it acceptable for the leader of a Poltical Party in this Counrty to use the N word ? I dont vote because party politics is tedious and at times pathetic, Lib Lab Con I find irritating, the thought of UKIP getting anywhere near power I find frightning Mr Angry
  • Score: 9

1:02pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Mr Angry, I'm not that bothered about "forbidden words" What does concern me is that London police held back from dealing with burning and pillaging of our capital city because they perceived (correctly, possibly) that the majority of the perpetrators were of African origin, in part. That "reverse rac-ism" is far more terrible than words from Mr Farage-isn't it?
Mr Angry, I'm not that bothered about "forbidden words" What does concern me is that London police held back from dealing with burning and pillaging of our capital city because they perceived (correctly, possibly) that the majority of the perpetrators were of African origin, in part. That "reverse rac-ism" is far more terrible than words from Mr Farage-isn't it? Dai Rear
  • Score: -7

1:45pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Mr Angry says...

This thread is not about the riots, its about UKIP, as usual when in trouble Kippers go off on tangents, you havent answered the question, is using the N word acceptable ? judging by your comments you seem to think it is
This thread is not about the riots, its about UKIP, as usual when in trouble Kippers go off on tangents, you havent answered the question, is using the N word acceptable ? judging by your comments you seem to think it is Mr Angry
  • Score: 4

2:12pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

I don't care. It's trivial. I've been hurt by a pigmy donkey and a motor bike which turned over but never by a word. But if you are unable to understand that the mindset so troubled by words is the same mindset which allowed looting and pillaging for 48 hours, then I fear you are in for a shock in the future.
I don't care. It's trivial. I've been hurt by a pigmy donkey and a motor bike which turned over but never by a word. But if you are unable to understand that the mindset so troubled by words is the same mindset which allowed looting and pillaging for 48 hours, then I fear you are in for a shock in the future. Dai Rear
  • Score: -7

2:58pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Mr Angry says...

Dai Rear wrote:
I don't care. It's trivial. I've been hurt by a pigmy donkey and a motor bike which turned over but never by a word. But if you are unable to understand that the mindset so troubled by words is the same mindset which allowed looting and pillaging for 48 hours, then I fear you are in for a shock in the future.
Why am I personally in for a shock because I drew attention to a daily mail article, I fail to see the connection ?
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: I don't care. It's trivial. I've been hurt by a pigmy donkey and a motor bike which turned over but never by a word. But if you are unable to understand that the mindset so troubled by words is the same mindset which allowed looting and pillaging for 48 hours, then I fear you are in for a shock in the future.[/p][/quote]Why am I personally in for a shock because I drew attention to a daily mail article, I fail to see the connection ? Mr Angry
  • Score: 6

4:52pm Sun 8 Jun 14

BobEvams2014 says...

You are certainly in for a shock Mr A, if you let unqualified Romanians do your electrics on the cheap

Seriously please dont argue with UKIP supporters - remember your wrong they are right - extreme right
You are certainly in for a shock Mr A, if you let unqualified Romanians do your electrics on the cheap Seriously please dont argue with UKIP supporters - remember your wrong they are right - extreme right BobEvams2014
  • Score: 3

4:59pm Sun 8 Jun 14

BobEvams2014 says...

Atricle here on Nigels Amercian Cousins :

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news
/article-2652041
/Revealed-Inside-vil
e-Ku-Klux-Klan-rally
-bigoted-members-say
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Atricle here on Nigels Amercian Cousins : http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news /article-2652041 /Revealed-Inside-vil e-Ku-Klux-Klan-rally -bigoted-members-say -preparing-race-war- military-style-comba t-training.html#comm ents BobEvams2014
  • Score: 5

5:10pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

BobEvams2014 wrote:
You are certainly in for a shock Mr A, if you let unqualified Romanians do your electrics on the cheap

Seriously please dont argue with UKIP supporters - remember your wrong they are right - extreme right
The extreme right and the extreme left believe in the same thing, a very large powerful state. Exiting the Paris-Berlin autocracy would , I should have thought, remove a little unrepresentative state power and weaken its stranglehold. If that's not correct, why isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]BobEvams2014[/bold] wrote: You are certainly in for a shock Mr A, if you let unqualified Romanians do your electrics on the cheap Seriously please dont argue with UKIP supporters - remember your wrong they are right - extreme right[/p][/quote]The extreme right and the extreme left believe in the same thing, a very large powerful state. Exiting the Paris-Berlin autocracy would , I should have thought, remove a little unrepresentative state power and weaken its stranglehold. If that's not correct, why isn't it? Dai Rear
  • Score: -9

11:04pm Sun 8 Jun 14

jimmytheone2 says...

Dai Rear wrote:
BobEvams2014 wrote:
You are certainly in for a shock Mr A, if you let unqualified Romanians do your electrics on the cheap

Seriously please dont argue with UKIP supporters - remember your wrong they are right - extreme right
The extreme right and the extreme left believe in the same thing, a very large powerful state. Exiting the Paris-Berlin autocracy would , I should have thought, remove a little unrepresentative state power and weaken its stranglehold. If that's not correct, why isn't it?
What an apt name you have.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BobEvams2014[/bold] wrote: You are certainly in for a shock Mr A, if you let unqualified Romanians do your electrics on the cheap Seriously please dont argue with UKIP supporters - remember your wrong they are right - extreme right[/p][/quote]The extreme right and the extreme left believe in the same thing, a very large powerful state. Exiting the Paris-Berlin autocracy would , I should have thought, remove a little unrepresentative state power and weaken its stranglehold. If that's not correct, why isn't it?[/p][/quote]What an apt name you have. jimmytheone2
  • Score: 11

11:10pm Sun 8 Jun 14

jimmytheone2 says...

Dai Rear wrote:
I don't care. It's trivial. I've been hurt by a pigmy donkey and a motor bike which turned over but never by a word. But if you are unable to understand that the mindset so troubled by words is the same mindset which allowed looting and pillaging for 48 hours, then I fear you are in for a shock in the future.
I can well believe you've been hurt by as pigmy donkey.
You were warned about your interest in sheep, and you've obviously moved on to bigger (or smaller) things.
I have no sympathy for you. Get some treatment.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: I don't care. It's trivial. I've been hurt by a pigmy donkey and a motor bike which turned over but never by a word. But if you are unable to understand that the mindset so troubled by words is the same mindset which allowed looting and pillaging for 48 hours, then I fear you are in for a shock in the future.[/p][/quote]I can well believe you've been hurt by as pigmy donkey. You were warned about your interest in sheep, and you've obviously moved on to bigger (or smaller) things. I have no sympathy for you. Get some treatment. jimmytheone2
  • Score: 3

11:14pm Sun 8 Jun 14

jimmytheone2 says...

cymruamblyth wrote:
jimmytheone2 wrote:
welshmen wrote:
Jimport wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit.
So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago.
Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties.
Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we?
Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.
It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.
I would sooner trust UKIP than any other of the robbing ars-holes, how you can defend those LIB/LAB/CON after what they have done between them over the last couple of decades, it repulses me and millions of other Britain's, you dare to say, " you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills". And what has your favourite party done for you and our Country, get your head out of the sand, or are you an EU immigrant? that would answer a few of your negative expletives against UKIP, UKIP like the other parties haven't produced their Manifesto yet for the 2015 election, anyone with any sense would wait for that out come before judging falsehoods and rumour, you keep voting for the same LIB/LAB/CON bullsh-ters we will vote for a change, also a change to rule our own Country as we see fit, not by a bunch of unelected EU Commissioners, as you seem to favour that scenario for our future....
Another meltdown by Welshmen.
Anyone who doesn't agree with him is an 'EU immigrant' or a 'UK hater'.
He's such a tolerant person - as long as you agree with his extremist views.
Kind of like you apart from anybody who disagrees with you is a racist or fascist.. At least he use's his own name!

Would you say half off what you say behind your PC to a load of strangers in the pub?
So his name is Welshmen? yeah bright boy, sums you up. Why bother?
[quote][p][bold]cymruamblyth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimmytheone2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jimport[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: Still sounds like a bit of muck raking. Bound to happen now that UKIP have been given the opportunity to make people sit up in their seats a bit. So his family business legally employed foreign workers over 6 years ago. Not exactly in the same league as the levels of fraud, deception, deceit and general corruption of the lining ones nest variety that we have become accustomed to by the main three parties. Let's see how it affects the outcome next May shall we? Personally, my wage packet and household bills tell me I can forgive UKIP the odd dodgy headline. I'm one of the disaffected thousands who have had enough of being ignored by the big three. UKIP may not have the detailed manifesto but I don't think they can be any worse then what we have put up with since the seventies.[/p][/quote]It flies in the face of a fundamental, core UKIP policy, so it is a big deal. Your willingness to believe otherwise also explains why you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills.[/p][/quote]I would sooner trust UKIP than any other of the robbing ars-holes, how you can defend those LIB/LAB/CON after what they have done between them over the last couple of decades, it repulses me and millions of other Britain's, you dare to say, " you are willing to trust UKIP with your wage packet, house price, savings, and energy bills". And what has your favourite party done for you and our Country, get your head out of the sand, or are you an EU immigrant? that would answer a few of your negative expletives against UKIP, UKIP like the other parties haven't produced their Manifesto yet for the 2015 election, anyone with any sense would wait for that out come before judging falsehoods and rumour, you keep voting for the same LIB/LAB/CON bullsh-ters we will vote for a change, also a change to rule our own Country as we see fit, not by a bunch of unelected EU Commissioners, as you seem to favour that scenario for our future....[/p][/quote]Another meltdown by Welshmen. Anyone who doesn't agree with him is an 'EU immigrant' or a 'UK hater'. He's such a tolerant person - as long as you agree with his extremist views.[/p][/quote]Kind of like you apart from anybody who disagrees with you is a racist or fascist.. At least he use's his own name! Would you say half off what you say behind your PC to a load of strangers in the pub?[/p][/quote]So his name is Welshmen? yeah bright boy, sums you up. Why bother? jimmytheone2
  • Score: 3

11:22pm Sun 8 Jun 14

jimmytheone2 says...

Mr Angry wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
I don't care. It's trivial. I've been hurt by a pigmy donkey and a motor bike which turned over but never by a word. But if you are unable to understand that the mindset so troubled by words is the same mindset which allowed looting and pillaging for 48 hours, then I fear you are in for a shock in the future.
Why am I personally in for a shock because I drew attention to a daily mail article, I fail to see the connection ?
You're in for a shock because the UK is being overrun by pygmy donkeys and overturned motor bikes. i think that's what runny bottom is saying. He's not the brightest spark, so it is difficult to work what he's saying. His name and what he says are the same.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: I don't care. It's trivial. I've been hurt by a pigmy donkey and a motor bike which turned over but never by a word. But if you are unable to understand that the mindset so troubled by words is the same mindset which allowed looting and pillaging for 48 hours, then I fear you are in for a shock in the future.[/p][/quote]Why am I personally in for a shock because I drew attention to a daily mail article, I fail to see the connection ?[/p][/quote]You're in for a shock because the UK is being overrun by pygmy donkeys and overturned motor bikes. i think that's what runny bottom is saying. He's not the brightest spark, so it is difficult to work what he's saying. His name and what he says are the same. jimmytheone2
  • Score: 2

8:49am Mon 9 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

For those like Mister One Two who, after years still find the pseudonym funny "harf harf,harf harf, that's diarrhoea, harf" and who had no contact with any member of their family save a mother there is a saying "sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me" which is as true now as when I first heard it in 1951. Thus, whilst Granada flaps all its petticoats and has a fit of the vapours over the name of Douglas Bader's dog, to sane individuals that is a matter of monumental indifference. Arf arf arf arf jimmytheone-you're in "Viz" aren't you?
For those like Mister One Two who, after years still find the pseudonym funny "harf harf,harf harf, that's diarrhoea, harf" and who had no contact with any member of their family save a mother there is a saying "sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me" which is as true now as when I first heard it in 1951. Thus, whilst Granada flaps all its petticoats and has a fit of the vapours over the name of Douglas Bader's dog, to sane individuals that is a matter of monumental indifference. Arf arf arf arf jimmytheone-you're in "Viz" aren't you? Dai Rear
  • Score: -4

8:57am Mon 9 Jun 14

Mervyn James says...

Voters (What there is of them), are taking their eye off the real ball, it is not whether UKIP is racist or not, but the fact they WILL take votes AWAY from the main parties regardless, because many believe they mean what they say, as averse to total codswallop from the established losers who have run out of any ideas about how to deal with the UK being overrun.. Only recently the coalition closed parliament because there was nothing for them to discuss, this shows appalling ignorance, a lack of ideas, and suggests they have lost the will to govern if it means they have to make decisions.

We have a population that only 25-30% feels it is worth getting out of bed and voting for anyone. This vacuum leaves a clear run for the extremes in society, is the UKIP any more extreme than the Tory party ? Given the wholesale assaults on the country's most vulnerable people and them lording it up in a London bubble oblivious of the rest of the country, maybe not. The UKIP are saying what the Tories said they would do, what the tories are still saying the will do if/when the 30% of voters decide to re-elect them, the tory approach is to promise jam tomorrow, assuming there IS a tomorrow for them, there doesn't look like a coalition will happen again. The tory/UKIP policies differ only, in that the UKIP appears to mean it. I really believe the more people attack the UKIP as racist or loony, the more votes they will get, as this seems reflected in the Scottish Independence vote too, with Scots being angered by English MP's poking their noses in so leaning towards the yes vote in defiance.

The fact is Immigration is the number 1 issue in the UK, it has to be addressed.
Voters (What there is of them), are taking their eye off the real ball, it is not whether UKIP is racist or not, but the fact they WILL take votes AWAY from the main parties regardless, because many believe they mean what they say, as averse to total codswallop from the established losers who have run out of any ideas about how to deal with the UK being overrun.. Only recently the coalition closed parliament because there was nothing for them to discuss, this shows appalling ignorance, a lack of ideas, and suggests they have lost the will to govern if it means they have to make decisions. We have a population that only 25-30% feels it is worth getting out of bed and voting for anyone. This vacuum leaves a clear run for the extremes in society, is the UKIP any more extreme than the Tory party ? Given the wholesale assaults on the country's most vulnerable people and them lording it up in a London bubble oblivious of the rest of the country, maybe not. The UKIP are saying what the Tories said they would do, what the tories are still saying the will do if/when the 30% of voters decide to re-elect them, the tory approach is to promise jam tomorrow, assuming there IS a tomorrow for them, there doesn't look like a coalition will happen again. The tory/UKIP policies differ only, in that the UKIP appears to mean it. I really believe the more people attack the UKIP as racist or loony, the more votes they will get, as this seems reflected in the Scottish Independence vote too, with Scots being angered by English MP's poking their noses in so leaning towards the yes vote in defiance. The fact is Immigration is the number 1 issue in the UK, it has to be addressed. Mervyn James
  • Score: -2

9:46am Mon 9 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

True Mervyn. Suggests Miliband is in total denial when he says his voters are too stupid to have a referendum?
True Mervyn. Suggests Miliband is in total denial when he says his voters are too stupid to have a referendum? Dai Rear
  • Score: -5

10:34am Mon 9 Jun 14

Mr Angry says...

The Fact remains that 70% of the population agree with me that no politicans are worth voting for :

I mean Newport City Council - Bob Bright or Matthew Evans - give me a break !
Westminister - Millipead or Cameron - come on !

Look at the mess these idiots ( well meaning I'm sure ) have created , and we are expected to waste time and vote - you must be kidding me
The Fact remains that 70% of the population agree with me that no politicans are worth voting for : I mean Newport City Council - Bob Bright or Matthew Evans - give me a break ! Westminister - Millipead or Cameron - come on ! Look at the mess these idiots ( well meaning I'm sure ) have created , and we are expected to waste time and vote - you must be kidding me Mr Angry
  • Score: 1

10:46am Mon 9 Jun 14

welshmen says...

A new one to add for jimmytheone2 your a traitor as well:

The only people who want more of our Country to disappear under a Multicultural flood of anyone from anywhere are the Liberal Elite, immigrants and friends of Immigrants and the biggest threat Islamist's, they all post on here calling the non-conformists to their ideology, racist's, fascists, nazi's and any other name they can find to defend their obsession with Britain losing our British identity, change is always going to happen but to force the people of this Country to except mass immigration that other Nations wouldn't put up with is not acceptable, because our Country is tolerant to other cultures isn't the green light for them to tell us to change our laws to suite their warped Religious ideology.

And again force a foreign religion on our Christian Country, there is no cohesion with this Religion, it's a fallacy to believe there is, if you don't already know the more there are of this Religion the more noise they make to get what they want to progress their ancient barbaric Religion and rule this Country....in actual fact they are Colonisers, don't marry into our Country only marry from their own Culture, times going to came when we will be fighting to keep this Country British and remove this problem from our shores.....
A new one to add for jimmytheone2 your a traitor as well: The only people who want more of our Country to disappear under a Multicultural flood of anyone from anywhere are the Liberal Elite, immigrants and friends of Immigrants and the biggest threat Islamist's, they all post on here calling the non-conformists to their ideology, racist's, fascists, nazi's and any other name they can find to defend their obsession with Britain losing our British identity, change is always going to happen but to force the people of this Country to except mass immigration that other Nations wouldn't put up with is not acceptable, because our Country is tolerant to other cultures isn't the green light for them to tell us to change our laws to suite their warped Religious ideology. And again force a foreign religion on our Christian Country, there is no cohesion with this Religion, it's a fallacy to believe there is, if you don't already know the more there are of this Religion the more noise they make to get what they want to progress their ancient barbaric Religion and rule this Country....in actual fact they are Colonisers, don't marry into our Country only marry from their own Culture, times going to came when we will be fighting to keep this Country British and remove this problem from our shores..... welshmen
  • Score: -7

10:47am Mon 9 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

Migration has to be controlled. Do we need masses of low skilled labour? Do we have homes for masses of migrants. Do we even have the space for millions of migrants. The UK is one of the most crowded countries in the world
The ONS predicts that our population will grow by 1 Million year over the next 10 years. Is that a manageable number? That's something like the population of London & Manchester combined
Migration has to be controlled. Do we need masses of low skilled labour? Do we have homes for masses of migrants. Do we even have the space for millions of migrants. The UK is one of the most crowded countries in the world The ONS predicts that our population will grow by 1 Million year over the next 10 years. Is that a manageable number? That's something like the population of London & Manchester combined Bobevans
  • Score: -6

11:01am Mon 9 Jun 14

Mr Angry says...

welshmen wrote:
A new one to add for jimmytheone2 your a traitor as well: The only people who want more of our Country to disappear under a Multicultural flood of anyone from anywhere are the Liberal Elite, immigrants and friends of Immigrants and the biggest threat Islamist's, they all post on here calling the non-conformists to their ideology, racist's, fascists, nazi's and any other name they can find to defend their obsession with Britain losing our British identity, change is always going to happen but to force the people of this Country to except mass immigration that other Nations wouldn't put up with is not acceptable, because our Country is tolerant to other cultures isn't the green light for them to tell us to change our laws to suite their warped Religious ideology. And again force a foreign religion on our Christian Country, there is no cohesion with this Religion, it's a fallacy to believe there is, if you don't already know the more there are of this Religion the more noise they make to get what they want to progress their ancient barbaric Religion and rule this Country....in actual fact they are Colonisers, don't marry into our Country only marry from their own Culture, times going to came when we will be fighting to keep this Country British and remove this problem from our shores.....
If I'm a traitor - go the police and get me charged with treason. Not voting is not a crime, niether is not voting UKIP, your rants are at best tiresome - normally idiotic, childish and pathetic.I dont vote - like 70% of my fellow countrymen, and guess what - I have no intention of ever doing so .
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: A new one to add for jimmytheone2 your a traitor as well: The only people who want more of our Country to disappear under a Multicultural flood of anyone from anywhere are the Liberal Elite, immigrants and friends of Immigrants and the biggest threat Islamist's, they all post on here calling the non-conformists to their ideology, racist's, fascists, nazi's and any other name they can find to defend their obsession with Britain losing our British identity, change is always going to happen but to force the people of this Country to except mass immigration that other Nations wouldn't put up with is not acceptable, because our Country is tolerant to other cultures isn't the green light for them to tell us to change our laws to suite their warped Religious ideology. And again force a foreign religion on our Christian Country, there is no cohesion with this Religion, it's a fallacy to believe there is, if you don't already know the more there are of this Religion the more noise they make to get what they want to progress their ancient barbaric Religion and rule this Country....in actual fact they are Colonisers, don't marry into our Country only marry from their own Culture, times going to came when we will be fighting to keep this Country British and remove this problem from our shores.....[/p][/quote]If I'm a traitor - go the police and get me charged with treason. Not voting is not a crime, niether is not voting UKIP, your rants are at best tiresome - normally idiotic, childish and pathetic.I dont vote - like 70% of my fellow countrymen, and guess what - I have no intention of ever doing so . Mr Angry
  • Score: 2

12:02pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Mr Angry wrote:
welshmen wrote:
A new one to add for jimmytheone2 your a traitor as well: The only people who want more of our Country to disappear under a Multicultural flood of anyone from anywhere are the Liberal Elite, immigrants and friends of Immigrants and the biggest threat Islamist's, they all post on here calling the non-conformists to their ideology, racist's, fascists, nazi's and any other name they can find to defend their obsession with Britain losing our British identity, change is always going to happen but to force the people of this Country to except mass immigration that other Nations wouldn't put up with is not acceptable, because our Country is tolerant to other cultures isn't the green light for them to tell us to change our laws to suite their warped Religious ideology. And again force a foreign religion on our Christian Country, there is no cohesion with this Religion, it's a fallacy to believe there is, if you don't already know the more there are of this Religion the more noise they make to get what they want to progress their ancient barbaric Religion and rule this Country....in actual fact they are Colonisers, don't marry into our Country only marry from their own Culture, times going to came when we will be fighting to keep this Country British and remove this problem from our shores.....
If I'm a traitor - go the police and get me charged with treason. Not voting is not a crime, niether is not voting UKIP, your rants are at best tiresome - normally idiotic, childish and pathetic.I dont vote - like 70% of my fellow countrymen, and guess what - I have no intention of ever doing so .
Well don't whine about people who do.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: A new one to add for jimmytheone2 your a traitor as well: The only people who want more of our Country to disappear under a Multicultural flood of anyone from anywhere are the Liberal Elite, immigrants and friends of Immigrants and the biggest threat Islamist's, they all post on here calling the non-conformists to their ideology, racist's, fascists, nazi's and any other name they can find to defend their obsession with Britain losing our British identity, change is always going to happen but to force the people of this Country to except mass immigration that other Nations wouldn't put up with is not acceptable, because our Country is tolerant to other cultures isn't the green light for them to tell us to change our laws to suite their warped Religious ideology. And again force a foreign religion on our Christian Country, there is no cohesion with this Religion, it's a fallacy to believe there is, if you don't already know the more there are of this Religion the more noise they make to get what they want to progress their ancient barbaric Religion and rule this Country....in actual fact they are Colonisers, don't marry into our Country only marry from their own Culture, times going to came when we will be fighting to keep this Country British and remove this problem from our shores.....[/p][/quote]If I'm a traitor - go the police and get me charged with treason. Not voting is not a crime, niether is not voting UKIP, your rants are at best tiresome - normally idiotic, childish and pathetic.I dont vote - like 70% of my fellow countrymen, and guess what - I have no intention of ever doing so .[/p][/quote]Well don't whine about people who do. Dai Rear
  • Score: -4

12:38pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Mr Angry says...

Dai Rear wrote:
Mr Angry wrote:
welshmen wrote: A new one to add for jimmytheone2 your a traitor as well: The only people who want more of our Country to disappear under a Multicultural flood of anyone from anywhere are the Liberal Elite, immigrants and friends of Immigrants and the biggest threat Islamist's, they all post on here calling the non-conformists to their ideology, racist's, fascists, nazi's and any other name they can find to defend their obsession with Britain losing our British identity, change is always going to happen but to force the people of this Country to except mass immigration that other Nations wouldn't put up with is not acceptable, because our Country is tolerant to other cultures isn't the green light for them to tell us to change our laws to suite their warped Religious ideology. And again force a foreign religion on our Christian Country, there is no cohesion with this Religion, it's a fallacy to believe there is, if you don't already know the more there are of this Religion the more noise they make to get what they want to progress their ancient barbaric Religion and rule this Country....in actual fact they are Colonisers, don't marry into our Country only marry from their own Culture, times going to came when we will be fighting to keep this Country British and remove this problem from our shores.....
If I'm a traitor - go the police and get me charged with treason. Not voting is not a crime, niether is not voting UKIP, your rants are at best tiresome - normally idiotic, childish and pathetic.I dont vote - like 70% of my fellow countrymen, and guess what - I have no intention of ever doing so .
Well don't whine about people who do.
When you and your ilk stop whining at those who don't .
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: A new one to add for jimmytheone2 your a traitor as well: The only people who want more of our Country to disappear under a Multicultural flood of anyone from anywhere are the Liberal Elite, immigrants and friends of Immigrants and the biggest threat Islamist's, they all post on here calling the non-conformists to their ideology, racist's, fascists, nazi's and any other name they can find to defend their obsession with Britain losing our British identity, change is always going to happen but to force the people of this Country to except mass immigration that other Nations wouldn't put up with is not acceptable, because our Country is tolerant to other cultures isn't the green light for them to tell us to change our laws to suite their warped Religious ideology. And again force a foreign religion on our Christian Country, there is no cohesion with this Religion, it's a fallacy to believe there is, if you don't already know the more there are of this Religion the more noise they make to get what they want to progress their ancient barbaric Religion and rule this Country....in actual fact they are Colonisers, don't marry into our Country only marry from their own Culture, times going to came when we will be fighting to keep this Country British and remove this problem from our shores.....[/p][/quote]If I'm a traitor - go the police and get me charged with treason. Not voting is not a crime, niether is not voting UKIP, your rants are at best tiresome - normally idiotic, childish and pathetic.I dont vote - like 70% of my fellow countrymen, and guess what - I have no intention of ever doing so .[/p][/quote]Well don't whine about people who do.[/p][/quote]When you and your ilk stop whining at those who don't . Mr Angry
  • Score: 4

1:13pm Mon 9 Jun 14

welshmen says...

Mr Angry wrote:
welshmen wrote:
A new one to add for jimmytheone2 your a traitor as well: The only people who want more of our Country to disappear under a Multicultural flood of anyone from anywhere are the Liberal Elite, immigrants and friends of Immigrants and the biggest threat Islamist's, they all post on here calling the non-conformists to their ideology, racist's, fascists, nazi's and any other name they can find to defend their obsession with Britain losing our British identity, change is always going to happen but to force the people of this Country to except mass immigration that other Nations wouldn't put up with is not acceptable, because our Country is tolerant to other cultures isn't the green light for them to tell us to change our laws to suite their warped Religious ideology. And again force a foreign religion on our Christian Country, there is no cohesion with this Religion, it's a fallacy to believe there is, if you don't already know the more there are of this Religion the more noise they make to get what they want to progress their ancient barbaric Religion and rule this Country....in actual fact they are Colonisers, don't marry into our Country only marry from their own Culture, times going to came when we will be fighting to keep this Country British and remove this problem from our shores.....
If I'm a traitor - go the police and get me charged with treason. Not voting is not a crime, niether is not voting UKIP, your rants are at best tiresome - normally idiotic, childish and pathetic.I dont vote - like 70% of my fellow countrymen, and guess what - I have no intention of ever doing so .
Clean your glasses, look and read, don't as you always assume.....
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: A new one to add for jimmytheone2 your a traitor as well: The only people who want more of our Country to disappear under a Multicultural flood of anyone from anywhere are the Liberal Elite, immigrants and friends of Immigrants and the biggest threat Islamist's, they all post on here calling the non-conformists to their ideology, racist's, fascists, nazi's and any other name they can find to defend their obsession with Britain losing our British identity, change is always going to happen but to force the people of this Country to except mass immigration that other Nations wouldn't put up with is not acceptable, because our Country is tolerant to other cultures isn't the green light for them to tell us to change our laws to suite their warped Religious ideology. And again force a foreign religion on our Christian Country, there is no cohesion with this Religion, it's a fallacy to believe there is, if you don't already know the more there are of this Religion the more noise they make to get what they want to progress their ancient barbaric Religion and rule this Country....in actual fact they are Colonisers, don't marry into our Country only marry from their own Culture, times going to came when we will be fighting to keep this Country British and remove this problem from our shores.....[/p][/quote]If I'm a traitor - go the police and get me charged with treason. Not voting is not a crime, niether is not voting UKIP, your rants are at best tiresome - normally idiotic, childish and pathetic.I dont vote - like 70% of my fellow countrymen, and guess what - I have no intention of ever doing so .[/p][/quote]Clean your glasses, look and read, don't as you always assume..... welshmen
  • Score: -6

2:23pm Mon 9 Jun 14

Mr Angry says...

welshmen wrote:
Mr Angry wrote:
welshmen wrote: A new one to add for jimmytheone2 your a traitor as well: The only people who want more of our Country to disappear under a Multicultural flood of anyone from anywhere are the Liberal Elite, immigrants and friends of Immigrants and the biggest threat Islamist's, they all post on here calling the non-conformists to their ideology, racist's, fascists, nazi's and any other name they can find to defend their obsession with Britain losing our British identity, change is always going to happen but to force the people of this Country to except mass immigration that other Nations wouldn't put up with is not acceptable, because our Country is tolerant to other cultures isn't the green light for them to tell us to change our laws to suite their warped Religious ideology. And again force a foreign religion on our Christian Country, there is no cohesion with this Religion, it's a fallacy to believe there is, if you don't already know the more there are of this Religion the more noise they make to get what they want to progress their ancient barbaric Religion and rule this Country....in actual fact they are Colonisers, don't marry into our Country only marry from their own Culture, times going to came when we will be fighting to keep this Country British and remove this problem from our shores.....
If I'm a traitor - go the police and get me charged with treason. Not voting is not a crime, niether is not voting UKIP, your rants are at best tiresome - normally idiotic, childish and pathetic.I dont vote - like 70% of my fellow countrymen, and guess what - I have no intention of ever doing so .
Clean your glasses, look and read, don't as you always assume.....
I start to read - then after a bit I loose the will to live
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: A new one to add for jimmytheone2 your a traitor as well: The only people who want more of our Country to disappear under a Multicultural flood of anyone from anywhere are the Liberal Elite, immigrants and friends of Immigrants and the biggest threat Islamist's, they all post on here calling the non-conformists to their ideology, racist's, fascists, nazi's and any other name they can find to defend their obsession with Britain losing our British identity, change is always going to happen but to force the people of this Country to except mass immigration that other Nations wouldn't put up with is not acceptable, because our Country is tolerant to other cultures isn't the green light for them to tell us to change our laws to suite their warped Religious ideology. And again force a foreign religion on our Christian Country, there is no cohesion with this Religion, it's a fallacy to believe there is, if you don't already know the more there are of this Religion the more noise they make to get what they want to progress their ancient barbaric Religion and rule this Country....in actual fact they are Colonisers, don't marry into our Country only marry from their own Culture, times going to came when we will be fighting to keep this Country British and remove this problem from our shores.....[/p][/quote]If I'm a traitor - go the police and get me charged with treason. Not voting is not a crime, niether is not voting UKIP, your rants are at best tiresome - normally idiotic, childish and pathetic.I dont vote - like 70% of my fellow countrymen, and guess what - I have no intention of ever doing so .[/p][/quote]Clean your glasses, look and read, don't as you always assume.....[/p][/quote]I start to read - then after a bit I loose the will to live Mr Angry
  • Score: 4

3:49pm Mon 9 Jun 14

jimmytheone2 says...

welshmen wrote:
A new one to add for jimmytheone2 your a traitor as well:

The only people who want more of our Country to disappear under a Multicultural flood of anyone from anywhere are the Liberal Elite, immigrants and friends of Immigrants and the biggest threat Islamist's, they all post on here calling the non-conformists to their ideology, racist's, fascists, nazi's and any other name they can find to defend their obsession with Britain losing our British identity, change is always going to happen but to force the people of this Country to except mass immigration that other Nations wouldn't put up with is not acceptable, because our Country is tolerant to other cultures isn't the green light for them to tell us to change our laws to suite their warped Religious ideology.

And again force a foreign religion on our Christian Country, there is no cohesion with this Religion, it's a fallacy to believe there is, if you don't already know the more there are of this Religion the more noise they make to get what they want to progress their ancient barbaric Religion and rule this Country....in actual fact they are Colonisers, don't marry into our Country only marry from their own Culture, times going to came when we will be fighting to keep this Country British and remove this problem from our shores.....
I do worry about your state of mind Welshmen.
If any of his neighbours are reading this, pop round and see if he's ok, would you.
Last I heard he was out at night barking at the moon, but I think they gave him some meds for that. It doesn't appear that they're helping him at all..........
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: A new one to add for jimmytheone2 your a traitor as well: The only people who want more of our Country to disappear under a Multicultural flood of anyone from anywhere are the Liberal Elite, immigrants and friends of Immigrants and the biggest threat Islamist's, they all post on here calling the non-conformists to their ideology, racist's, fascists, nazi's and any other name they can find to defend their obsession with Britain losing our British identity, change is always going to happen but to force the people of this Country to except mass immigration that other Nations wouldn't put up with is not acceptable, because our Country is tolerant to other cultures isn't the green light for them to tell us to change our laws to suite their warped Religious ideology. And again force a foreign religion on our Christian Country, there is no cohesion with this Religion, it's a fallacy to believe there is, if you don't already know the more there are of this Religion the more noise they make to get what they want to progress their ancient barbaric Religion and rule this Country....in actual fact they are Colonisers, don't marry into our Country only marry from their own Culture, times going to came when we will be fighting to keep this Country British and remove this problem from our shores.....[/p][/quote]I do worry about your state of mind Welshmen. If any of his neighbours are reading this, pop round and see if he's ok, would you. Last I heard he was out at night barking at the moon, but I think they gave him some meds for that. It doesn't appear that they're helping him at all.......... jimmytheone2
  • Score: 10

5:26pm Mon 9 Jun 14

letsgobarbie says...

jimmytheone2 wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
BobEvams2014 wrote:
You are certainly in for a shock Mr A, if you let unqualified Romanians do your electrics on the cheap

Seriously please dont argue with UKIP supporters - remember your wrong they are right - extreme right
The extreme right and the extreme left believe in the same thing, a very large powerful state. Exiting the Paris-Berlin autocracy would , I should have thought, remove a little unrepresentative state power and weaken its stranglehold. If that's not correct, why isn't it?
What an apt name you have.
Diarrhea Man is well known on here and in cyber space they laugh behind his back and in the street they p*** their selves laughing in his face!!
[quote][p][bold]jimmytheone2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BobEvams2014[/bold] wrote: You are certainly in for a shock Mr A, if you let unqualified Romanians do your electrics on the cheap Seriously please dont argue with UKIP supporters - remember your wrong they are right - extreme right[/p][/quote]The extreme right and the extreme left believe in the same thing, a very large powerful state. Exiting the Paris-Berlin autocracy would , I should have thought, remove a little unrepresentative state power and weaken its stranglehold. If that's not correct, why isn't it?[/p][/quote]What an apt name you have.[/p][/quote]Diarrhea Man is well known on here and in cyber space they laugh behind his back and in the street they p*** their selves laughing in his face!! letsgobarbie
  • Score: 11

5:33pm Mon 9 Jun 14

BobEvams2014 says...

After UKIP win the next general election, a full review of all non British residents cuurently in the UK will take place. When they have been expelled all British Citizens will be issued with ' a full set of documents proving they are British ' or 'papers' for short. These MUST be carried at all times.

Security personel will be employed to check on citizenship on a regular basis - targetting anyone who looks a bit foriegn. These checkers will wear a distictive uniform, a shirt coloured let's say brown. So lets call them brownshirts.

All over the Country Brownshirts will be stopping people and asking ' Where are you papers ? '
After UKIP win the next general election, a full review of all non British residents cuurently in the UK will take place. When they have been expelled all British Citizens will be issued with ' a full set of documents proving they are British ' or 'papers' for short. These MUST be carried at all times. Security personel will be employed to check on citizenship on a regular basis - targetting anyone who looks a bit foriegn. These checkers will wear a distictive uniform, a shirt coloured let's say brown. So lets call them brownshirts. All over the Country Brownshirts will be stopping people and asking ' Where are you papers ? ' BobEvams2014
  • Score: 4

6:18pm Mon 9 Jun 14

letsgobarbie says...

BobEvams2014 wrote:
After UKIP win the next general election, a full review of all non British residents cuurently in the UK will take place. When they have been expelled all British Citizens will be issued with ' a full set of documents proving they are British ' or 'papers' for short. These MUST be carried at all times.

Security personel will be employed to check on citizenship on a regular basis - targetting anyone who looks a bit foriegn. These checkers will wear a distictive uniform, a shirt coloured let's say brown. So lets call them brownshirts.

All over the Country Brownshirts will be stopping people and asking ' Where are you papers ? '
And all over the country true blue Tories will have brown kipper tongues!
[quote][p][bold]BobEvams2014[/bold] wrote: After UKIP win the next general election, a full review of all non British residents cuurently in the UK will take place. When they have been expelled all British Citizens will be issued with ' a full set of documents proving they are British ' or 'papers' for short. These MUST be carried at all times. Security personel will be employed to check on citizenship on a regular basis - targetting anyone who looks a bit foriegn. These checkers will wear a distictive uniform, a shirt coloured let's say brown. So lets call them brownshirts. All over the Country Brownshirts will be stopping people and asking ' Where are you papers ? '[/p][/quote]And all over the country true blue Tories will have brown kipper tongues! letsgobarbie
  • Score: 4

1:58pm Wed 11 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

BobEvams2014 wrote:
After UKIP win the next general election, a full review of all non British residents cuurently in the UK will take place. When they have been expelled all British Citizens will be issued with ' a full set of documents proving they are British ' or 'papers' for short. These MUST be carried at all times.

Security personel will be employed to check on citizenship on a regular basis - targetting anyone who looks a bit foriegn. These checkers will wear a distictive uniform, a shirt coloured let's say brown. So lets call them brownshirts.

All over the Country Brownshirts will be stopping people and asking ' Where are you papers ? '
Amazing how such a flippant comment can come so close to what could be required to sort this country out.
The brown shirts in the era that you speak of came about because of fear of immigrants in a country that was suffering social hardship, food shortage, mass unemployment and no sign of recovery for the ordinary man in the street.
Jump forward from the thirties to present day and look around you.
You're so called brown shirts could have stop and search and arrest powers so society could make a stand against the lawlessness that seems to prevail today. Don't just use them as a force to combat illegal immigrants. Use them to stop the massive upsurge in ASBO that our police and councils are toothless to fight against properly. Use them to catch the drug drivers, the text drivers and the thousands who drive around uninsured.
The old adage that it concerns only those who have something to hide is not quite right but getting there. I would quite happily carry an ID to show an authority figure at request if required.
Desperate times and all that......
I look forward to the negative votes with glee....
[quote][p][bold]BobEvams2014[/bold] wrote: After UKIP win the next general election, a full review of all non British residents cuurently in the UK will take place. When they have been expelled all British Citizens will be issued with ' a full set of documents proving they are British ' or 'papers' for short. These MUST be carried at all times. Security personel will be employed to check on citizenship on a regular basis - targetting anyone who looks a bit foriegn. These checkers will wear a distictive uniform, a shirt coloured let's say brown. So lets call them brownshirts. All over the Country Brownshirts will be stopping people and asking ' Where are you papers ? '[/p][/quote]Amazing how such a flippant comment can come so close to what could be required to sort this country out. The brown shirts in the era that you speak of came about because of fear of immigrants in a country that was suffering social hardship, food shortage, mass unemployment and no sign of recovery for the ordinary man in the street. Jump forward from the thirties to present day and look around you. You're so called brown shirts could have stop and search and arrest powers so society could make a stand against the lawlessness that seems to prevail today. Don't just use them as a force to combat illegal immigrants. Use them to stop the massive upsurge in ASBO that our police and councils are toothless to fight against properly. Use them to catch the drug drivers, the text drivers and the thousands who drive around uninsured. The old adage that it concerns only those who have something to hide is not quite right but getting there. I would quite happily carry an ID to show an authority figure at request if required. Desperate times and all that...... I look forward to the negative votes with glee.... landyman3030
  • Score: 0

2:01pm Wed 11 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

................and while we're waiting for the brown shirts to get the uniforms why don't we give more funding to the police and pcso service so they can fill the gap that we face daily in society?
It's not until you need help from law enforcement that you realise how few there are and how thin they are spread. I don't care what colour his shirt is......
................and while we're waiting for the brown shirts to get the uniforms why don't we give more funding to the police and pcso service so they can fill the gap that we face daily in society? It's not until you need help from law enforcement that you realise how few there are and how thin they are spread. I don't care what colour his shirt is...... landyman3030
  • Score: 1

9:31am Thu 12 Jun 14

BobEvams2014 says...

landyman3030 wrote:
BobEvams2014 wrote:
After UKIP win the next general election, a full review of all non British residents cuurently in the UK will take place. When they have been expelled all British Citizens will be issued with ' a full set of documents proving they are British ' or 'papers' for short. These MUST be carried at all times.

Security personel will be employed to check on citizenship on a regular basis - targetting anyone who looks a bit foriegn. These checkers will wear a distictive uniform, a shirt coloured let's say brown. So lets call them brownshirts.

All over the Country Brownshirts will be stopping people and asking ' Where are you papers ? '
Amazing how such a flippant comment can come so close to what could be required to sort this country out.
The brown shirts in the era that you speak of came about because of fear of immigrants in a country that was suffering social hardship, food shortage, mass unemployment and no sign of recovery for the ordinary man in the street.
Jump forward from the thirties to present day and look around you.
You're so called brown shirts could have stop and search and arrest powers so society could make a stand against the lawlessness that seems to prevail today. Don't just use them as a force to combat illegal immigrants. Use them to stop the massive upsurge in ASBO that our police and councils are toothless to fight against properly. Use them to catch the drug drivers, the text drivers and the thousands who drive around uninsured.
The old adage that it concerns only those who have something to hide is not quite right but getting there. I would quite happily carry an ID to show an authority figure at request if required.
Desperate times and all that......
I look forward to the negative votes with glee....
Oh Dear , oh dear
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BobEvams2014[/bold] wrote: After UKIP win the next general election, a full review of all non British residents cuurently in the UK will take place. When they have been expelled all British Citizens will be issued with ' a full set of documents proving they are British ' or 'papers' for short. These MUST be carried at all times. Security personel will be employed to check on citizenship on a regular basis - targetting anyone who looks a bit foriegn. These checkers will wear a distictive uniform, a shirt coloured let's say brown. So lets call them brownshirts. All over the Country Brownshirts will be stopping people and asking ' Where are you papers ? '[/p][/quote]Amazing how such a flippant comment can come so close to what could be required to sort this country out. The brown shirts in the era that you speak of came about because of fear of immigrants in a country that was suffering social hardship, food shortage, mass unemployment and no sign of recovery for the ordinary man in the street. Jump forward from the thirties to present day and look around you. You're so called brown shirts could have stop and search and arrest powers so society could make a stand against the lawlessness that seems to prevail today. Don't just use them as a force to combat illegal immigrants. Use them to stop the massive upsurge in ASBO that our police and councils are toothless to fight against properly. Use them to catch the drug drivers, the text drivers and the thousands who drive around uninsured. The old adage that it concerns only those who have something to hide is not quite right but getting there. I would quite happily carry an ID to show an authority figure at request if required. Desperate times and all that...... I look forward to the negative votes with glee....[/p][/quote]Oh Dear , oh dear BobEvams2014
  • Score: 0

9:57am Thu 12 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Bobevans, the Stalinism you describe, brown shirts, big hats etc is not pleasant. We had it from 1917-1989, so we know. The present state of play when, you know as well as I that every illegal female immigrant will now have been "trafficked" (yes they're quick to pick up on our foibles) is surely no better.
If the EU and the HRA did not exist today would anyone think they were worth inventing?
Bobevans, the Stalinism you describe, brown shirts, big hats etc is not pleasant. We had it from 1917-1989, so we know. The present state of play when, you know as well as I that every illegal female immigrant will now have been "trafficked" (yes they're quick to pick up on our foibles) is surely no better. If the EU and the HRA did not exist today would anyone think they were worth inventing? Dai Rear
  • Score: 0

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