More work needed on Crindau retail plan

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NEWPORT CITY council have decided an environmental impact assessment will be required for a new retail development in Crindau.

The proposed project, which includes two supermarkets, would be on land currently used as an industrial site.

The screening opinion request, submitted to Newport City Council from Asbri planning consultants on behalf of RJ Mason Holdings Ltd, concerns the redevelopment of 3,300 sq/m of industrial land at Albany Street, in Crindau, Newport.

The development proposals include plans for Aldi and Iceland supermarkets, KFC, Costa Coffee, Greggs, 233 car-parking spaces and three other units whose use has yet to be identified. The biggest unit, for Aldi, is 1,533m2.

It is unclear whether the existing Aldi store on Barrack hill, less than a mile from the new site, would remain open as well.

According to the proposal, the existing building on site, home to R J Mason Transport Ltd, will be demolished. The haulage company have been at the site for around 13 years and it is understood they will relocate ahead of the development.

The Argus reported on the application at the beginning of May, when the request was first made to the council.

The 1.38 acre site lies adjacent to the banks of the River Usk. Natural Resources Wales were among other consultees who recommended an Environmental Impact Assessment be undertaken.

Access into the site is likely to be via the roundabout to the west of the site along Albany road which was developed as part of the wider Sainsbury’s redevelopment. The Sainsbury’s superstore opened in 2010 on the former Crindau gasworks site, replacing the store on Heidenheim Drive, which is now closed.

The site has a varied planning history, having been the subject of now lapsed permission for housing in the mid 1990s. Seven years ago, a planning application was submitted for a scheme involving homes and student and sheltered accommodation, a hotel, offices, and shops, leisure and healthcare facilities, though this was withdrawn before a decision was made.

Though the site is close to the Usk riverbank and the point where Crindau Pill joins the river, it does not form part of the nearby Lower usk Site of Special Scientific Interest, though the whole of the River Usk and its immediate banks are classified as a Special Conservation Area.

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12:13pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Lliswerry With 2 L's says...

More out of town shopping for Newport.
Clearly the council hasn't learnt anything over the past 30 years!!!!
More out of town shopping for Newport. Clearly the council hasn't learnt anything over the past 30 years!!!! Lliswerry With 2 L's
  • Score: -9

12:19pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Jinxey says...

Lliswerry With 2 L's wrote:
More out of town shopping for Newport.
Clearly the council hasn't learnt anything over the past 30 years!!!!
There was me thinking the article stated an "environmental impact assessment" would be required before they would even consider the application?

Yet your comment implies this has been granted and that the council haven't learnt anything. Silly me, I must have read a different article.
[quote][p][bold]Lliswerry With 2 L's[/bold] wrote: More out of town shopping for Newport. Clearly the council hasn't learnt anything over the past 30 years!!!![/p][/quote]There was me thinking the article stated an "environmental impact assessment" would be required before they would even consider the application? Yet your comment implies this has been granted and that the council haven't learnt anything. Silly me, I must have read a different article. Jinxey
  • Score: 7

12:29pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Thor at the door says...

Brunell Steel used to be there. Will be sad to see it go. Just more shops and Junk food establishments, great for all the yobs with there silly cars and tattoos, another place for them to infect!
Brunell Steel used to be there. Will be sad to see it go. Just more shops and Junk food establishments, great for all the yobs with there silly cars and tattoos, another place for them to infect! Thor at the door
  • Score: -2

12:37pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Walter Devereux says...

Local shops and out-of-town shops are different things. These do not sound like particularly big establishments.
Local shops and out-of-town shops are different things. These do not sound like particularly big establishments. Walter Devereux
  • Score: 2

1:03pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Lliswerry With 2 L's says...

Jinxey wrote:
Lliswerry With 2 L's wrote:
More out of town shopping for Newport.
Clearly the council hasn't learnt anything over the past 30 years!!!!
There was me thinking the article stated an "environmental impact assessment" would be required before they would even consider the application?

Yet your comment implies this has been granted and that the council haven't learnt anything. Silly me, I must have read a different article.
The fact that it's being considered in the first place implies that nothing has been learnt by the council. They've ripped the heart out of Newport by continuously allowing out of town developments across the city. Exactly how much food and coffee do people need???
[quote][p][bold]Jinxey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lliswerry With 2 L's[/bold] wrote: More out of town shopping for Newport. Clearly the council hasn't learnt anything over the past 30 years!!!![/p][/quote]There was me thinking the article stated an "environmental impact assessment" would be required before they would even consider the application? Yet your comment implies this has been granted and that the council haven't learnt anything. Silly me, I must have read a different article.[/p][/quote]The fact that it's being considered in the first place implies that nothing has been learnt by the council. They've ripped the heart out of Newport by continuously allowing out of town developments across the city. Exactly how much food and coffee do people need??? Lliswerry With 2 L's
  • Score: -7

1:14pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Jinxey says...

Lliswerry With 2 L's wrote:
Jinxey wrote:
Lliswerry With 2 L's wrote:
More out of town shopping for Newport.
Clearly the council hasn't learnt anything over the past 30 years!!!!
There was me thinking the article stated an "environmental impact assessment" would be required before they would even consider the application?

Yet your comment implies this has been granted and that the council haven't learnt anything. Silly me, I must have read a different article.
The fact that it's being considered in the first place implies that nothing has been learnt by the council. They've ripped the heart out of Newport by continuously allowing out of town developments across the city. Exactly how much food and coffee do people need???
Anyone is able to submit a planning application and the council must consider it. They cannot reject it without it going through the correct process.

All that is happened here is that someone has put in a screening application asking for advice and the council has said it would need an environmental impact assessment before they could submit a full application.
[quote][p][bold]Lliswerry With 2 L's[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jinxey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lliswerry With 2 L's[/bold] wrote: More out of town shopping for Newport. Clearly the council hasn't learnt anything over the past 30 years!!!![/p][/quote]There was me thinking the article stated an "environmental impact assessment" would be required before they would even consider the application? Yet your comment implies this has been granted and that the council haven't learnt anything. Silly me, I must have read a different article.[/p][/quote]The fact that it's being considered in the first place implies that nothing has been learnt by the council. They've ripped the heart out of Newport by continuously allowing out of town developments across the city. Exactly how much food and coffee do people need???[/p][/quote]Anyone is able to submit a planning application and the council must consider it. They cannot reject it without it going through the correct process. All that is happened here is that someone has put in a screening application asking for advice and the council has said it would need an environmental impact assessment before they could submit a full application. Jinxey
  • Score: 11

1:40pm Thu 12 Jun 14

NAC123 says...

Lovely.....aldi can have a bigger and better store as the one by Wickes is flourishing and I won't have to contend with J28 or parking and building sites in town when I want to go to Gregg's - sounds good and more jobs for Newport!
Lovely.....aldi can have a bigger and better store as the one by Wickes is flourishing and I won't have to contend with J28 or parking and building sites in town when I want to go to Gregg's - sounds good and more jobs for Newport! NAC123
  • Score: 7

2:29pm Thu 12 Jun 14

displayed says...

Can someone please switch the light out, when they leave the town graveyard, thanks!

Whatever appened to the marina, it seems to have sunk without a trace!
Can someone please switch the light out, when they leave the town graveyard, thanks! Whatever appened to the marina, it seems to have sunk without a trace! displayed
  • Score: -6

9:34pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Limestonecowboy says...

the morris marina ceased production late 70's.
the morris marina ceased production late 70's. Limestonecowboy
  • Score: 3

12:51am Fri 13 Jun 14

displayed says...

A modern fairy tail
"Once upon a time, in a land not far away":
There was grandiose plan for Crindau, however those in charge decided it far more beneficial to line their own pockets, so the big white elephant rose up and trumpeted off,.
Of corse the public were none the wiser and never found out where the money had been salted away to.
But those in charge lived very happily, ever after...............



www.newport.gov.uk/s
tellent/groups/publi
c/.../plans.../cont3
12985.pdf
2008-2009
"Crindau Marina is a possible development in Crindau, Newport. The marina would provide opportunities for new housing, shops and leisure facilities focused around a waterside location. Newport Unlimited, the Newport urban regeneration company, have secured £75,000 of funding from the Welsh Assembly Government’s ‘Catching the Wave’ action plan (to stimulate coastal economies in Wales), to consider the possibility of a developing a marina in Crindau. The marina would be part of the regeneration of Newport as a whole."
Sounded like a fairy tale even then!
A modern fairy tail "Once upon a time, in a land not far away": There was grandiose plan for Crindau, however those in charge decided it far more beneficial to line their own pockets, so the big white elephant rose up and trumpeted off,. Of corse the public were none the wiser and never found out where the money had been salted away to. But those in charge lived very happily, ever after............... www.newport.gov.uk/s tellent/groups/publi c/.../plans.../cont3 12985.pdf 2008-2009 "Crindau Marina is a possible development in Crindau, Newport. The marina would provide opportunities for new housing, shops and leisure facilities focused around a waterside location. Newport Unlimited, the Newport urban regeneration company, have secured £75,000 of funding from the Welsh Assembly Government’s ‘Catching the Wave’ action plan (to stimulate coastal economies in Wales), to consider the possibility of a developing a marina in Crindau. The marina would be part of the regeneration of Newport as a whole." Sounded like a fairy tale even then! displayed
  • Score: 3

8:31am Fri 13 Jun 14

displayed says...

Crindau
Development Brief
Planning & Design Guidelines
Supplementary Planning Guidance
September 2008

These were the people to contact at the time:
Susan Hall
Planning Officer - Policy
Newport City Council
email: susan.hall@newport.g
ov.uk
Alun Lowe
Planning Contributions Manager
Newport City Council
email: alun.lowe@newport.go
v.uk
Eluned Jones
Principal Urban Designer
Newport City Council
email: eluned.jones@newport
.gov.uk
Sinead Lynch
Biodiversity Officer
Newport City Council
email: sinead.lynch@newport
.gov.uk

Probably long moved on since and been promoted an rewarded for their efforts!

An exercise in public futility............
............
Crindau Development Brief Planning & Design Guidelines Supplementary Planning Guidance September 2008 These were the people to contact at the time: Susan Hall Planning Officer - Policy Newport City Council email: susan.hall@newport.g ov.uk Alun Lowe Planning Contributions Manager Newport City Council email: alun.lowe@newport.go v.uk Eluned Jones Principal Urban Designer Newport City Council email: eluned.jones@newport .gov.uk Sinead Lynch Biodiversity Officer Newport City Council email: sinead.lynch@newport .gov.uk Probably long moved on since and been promoted an rewarded for their efforts! An exercise in public futility............ ............ displayed
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