Trade at Newport docks could be 'severely affected' by £1bn M4 relief road

CONCERN: Newport docks' trade could be severely affected by a new £1 billion M4 relief road, says the group who run the port

CONCERN: Newport docks' trade could be severely affected by a new £1 billion M4 relief road, says the group who run the port

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TRADE at Newport Docks could be severely affected by a new £1 billion M4 relief road to the south of the city, Associated British Ports (ABP) has said.

With a new section of motorway built between Magor and Castleton including a bridge over the Usk, the docks could lose land and one of the docks could see height restrictions imposed on up to 60 per cent of the vessels using it, Matthew Kennerley, from the ABP said.

Mr Kennerley added he did not think it was a good idea to plan the new route through Wales’ most important general cargo port.

He said that throughout the consultation process, ABP had argued that a route slightly further north would be preferable.

The decision could threaten jobs and investment at the site, he added.

A broad coalition of groups has come out against the so-called ‘black route’ through the Gwent Levels, with the RSPB and Gwent Wildlife Trust among those advocating the ‘blue route’ of upgrades to the Southern Distributor Road as a better option.

Discussion of a road to relieve the bottleneck at the M4 in Newport has been ongoing since the 1991, when Welsh Secretary David Hunt announced a new motorway would be built.

The road is now earmarked for completion in 2022. There may now be legal challenges to the decision, which was announced on Wednesday.

A Welsh Government spokesman said: “We are committed to this ambitious infrastructure project, which has strong backing from business in Wales. The M4 project is of vital importance to the economic prosperity of the country as a whole.”

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10:58am Fri 18 Jul 14

Paxman's Army says...

But . . .but. . .but. . so many posters ASSURED me just yesterday the relief road would be good for business. Whahoppend?
But . . .but. . .but. . so many posters ASSURED me just yesterday the relief road would be good for business. Whahoppend? Paxman's Army
  • Score: 0

11:04am Fri 18 Jul 14

Woodgnome says...

So if there was a consultation Edwina would have known all this? Knee jerk decision making by her.
So if there was a consultation Edwina would have known all this? Knee jerk decision making by her. Woodgnome
  • Score: 0

11:21am Fri 18 Jul 14

Paxman's Army says...

Associated British Ports will now be considered as "tree huggers" to many of the people who want the road.
Associated British Ports will now be considered as "tree huggers" to many of the people who want the road. Paxman's Army
  • Score: 0

11:58am Fri 18 Jul 14

Walter Devereux says...

Tunnel? Higher viaduct? Solutions to a problem that don't involve abandoning all the benefits a new motorway would bring.
Tunnel? Higher viaduct? Solutions to a problem that don't involve abandoning all the benefits a new motorway would bring. Walter Devereux
  • Score: 11

12:16pm Fri 18 Jul 14

KarloMarko says...

Very simple solution...They could build a relief road to the relief road, and probably will if Edwina is Clerk of Works. I saw her early this morning striding over the Gwent Levels carrying a new WAG theodolite and shouting abuse at the Boobies....they shouted back...
Very simple solution...They could build a relief road to the relief road, and probably will if Edwina is Clerk of Works. I saw her early this morning striding over the Gwent Levels carrying a new WAG theodolite and shouting abuse at the Boobies....they shouted back... KarloMarko
  • Score: 5

12:20pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Dave on his Soapbox says...

......detailed plans for this route were produced at least 15 years ago...and the section that passes over the docks was elevated on pillars for quite some distance either side......

.....and there's no off links into Newport.......i.e. all the traffic will by-pass Newport towards Cardiff....
......detailed plans for this route were produced at least 15 years ago...and the section that passes over the docks was elevated on pillars for quite some distance either side...... .....and there's no off links into Newport.......i.e. all the traffic will by-pass Newport towards Cardiff.... Dave on his Soapbox
  • Score: 3

1:41pm Fri 18 Jul 14

landyman3030 says...

This would restrict or prohibit shipping to the timber importers, Dowds berth, Baileys Heavy Engineering and the tugs access. It would prohibit the crane movements around he dock accessing the west side completely severely restricting cargo handling capabilities. Oh, and the proposed route would drive straight through the engineering workshops, stores, carpenters workshop, plant maintenance workshop, a large private engineering firm and Newport Stevedores buildings as well as timber importers yard, pallet storage yard and one of the largest road barrier depots in the country.
Basically this route will rip the guts out of Newport Docks from a business and maintenance perspective for ABP and several large tenants.
And this is the preferred route.
Page 1 of how to kill a large part of Newports economy and long standing employers has just been written.
This would restrict or prohibit shipping to the timber importers, Dowds berth, Baileys Heavy Engineering and the tugs access. It would prohibit the crane movements around he dock accessing the west side completely severely restricting cargo handling capabilities. Oh, and the proposed route would drive straight through the engineering workshops, stores, carpenters workshop, plant maintenance workshop, a large private engineering firm and Newport Stevedores buildings as well as timber importers yard, pallet storage yard and one of the largest road barrier depots in the country. Basically this route will rip the guts out of Newport Docks from a business and maintenance perspective for ABP and several large tenants. And this is the preferred route. Page 1 of how to kill a large part of Newports economy and long standing employers has just been written. landyman3030
  • Score: 21

2:04pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Walter Devereux says...

Dave on his Soapbox wrote:
......detailed plans for this route were produced at least 15 years ago...and the section that passes over the docks was elevated on pillars for quite some distance either side......

.....and there's no off links into Newport.......i.e. all the traffic will by-pass Newport towards Cardiff....
Simply untrue: There are two proposed junctions:

http://m4newport.com
/assets/preferred-ro
ute-context-plan.pdf
[quote][p][bold]Dave on his Soapbox[/bold] wrote: ......detailed plans for this route were produced at least 15 years ago...and the section that passes over the docks was elevated on pillars for quite some distance either side...... .....and there's no off links into Newport.......i.e. all the traffic will by-pass Newport towards Cardiff....[/p][/quote]Simply untrue: There are two proposed junctions: http://m4newport.com /assets/preferred-ro ute-context-plan.pdf Walter Devereux
  • Score: 8

2:44pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Ian (Mac) MacKinlay says...

Walter Devereux wrote:
Dave on his Soapbox wrote:
......detailed plans for this route were produced at least 15 years ago...and the section that passes over the docks was elevated on pillars for quite some distance either side......

.....and there's no off links into Newport.......i.e. all the traffic will by-pass Newport towards Cardiff....
Simply untrue: There are two proposed junctions:

http://m4newport.com

/assets/preferred-ro

ute-context-plan.pdf
.

Hi Walter,

Thanks for your link, but I keep getting "Page cannot be displayed".

Any ideas?

Ian MacKinlay.
.
[quote][p][bold]Walter Devereux[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave on his Soapbox[/bold] wrote: ......detailed plans for this route were produced at least 15 years ago...and the section that passes over the docks was elevated on pillars for quite some distance either side...... .....and there's no off links into Newport.......i.e. all the traffic will by-pass Newport towards Cardiff....[/p][/quote]Simply untrue: There are two proposed junctions: http://m4newport.com /assets/preferred-ro ute-context-plan.pdf[/p][/quote]. Hi Walter, Thanks for your link, but I keep getting "Page cannot be displayed". Any ideas? Ian MacKinlay. . Ian (Mac) MacKinlay
  • Score: 1

3:38pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Walter Devereux says...

Make sure there are no spaces in it. In Google Chrome you can simply highlight the whole URL in one go and copy/paste into a new browser window. If the Argus web site software dealt with URLs in a more sensible way we would not have this trouble!
Make sure there are no spaces in it. In Google Chrome you can simply highlight the whole URL in one go and copy/paste into a new browser window. If the Argus web site software dealt with URLs in a more sensible way we would not have this trouble! Walter Devereux
  • Score: 7

7:03pm Fri 18 Jul 14

smartie40 says...

ABP have only just realised and highlighted this and the effect on the docks..
The docks died years ago no real trade there anymore no big ships come in anymore .only a handful of dockers work there . Hardly any employment there ABP on there soap box pleading its a busy port but it is not, only a few commercial businesses there . plenty of other good ports in wales.
Move on ABP you charge to much for business use there anyway..
ABP have only just realised and highlighted this and the effect on the docks.. The docks died years ago no real trade there anymore no big ships come in anymore .only a handful of dockers work there . Hardly any employment there ABP on there soap box pleading its a busy port but it is not, only a few commercial businesses there . plenty of other good ports in wales. Move on ABP you charge to much for business use there anyway.. smartie40
  • Score: -17

7:33pm Fri 18 Jul 14

Dave on his Soapbox says...

.......you also may also get %20 randomly appear in the URL when you press enter....even though you copy & pasted it ......which you'll need to manually remove to get it to open the site......
.......you also may also get %20 randomly appear in the URL when you press enter....even though you copy & pasted it ......which you'll need to manually remove to get it to open the site...... Dave on his Soapbox
  • Score: 0

11:15pm Fri 18 Jul 14

landyman3030 says...

smartie40 wrote:
ABP have only just realised and highlighted this and the effect on the docks..
The docks died years ago no real trade there anymore no big ships come in anymore .only a handful of dockers work there . Hardly any employment there ABP on there soap box pleading its a busy port but it is not, only a few commercial businesses there . plenty of other good ports in wales.
Move on ABP you charge to much for business use there anyway..
You don't call 50,000 tonne coal boats big? You don't call steel slab, steel coil, wire reel, billets, plate, logs, timber, animal feed, bio mass, scrap from the yard with the largest crane of its type in Europe...
There isn't the quantity of stevedores that there used to be and the shipping is reduced but it's still there. As for only a few commercial businesses, there are 9 employers plus ABP who will be adversely affected and will have to move from their premises. Are you that desperate to take more work away from Pill? ABP business charges are also in line with all other ports in the country. They own another 21. Like anybody else who is going to be so adversely affected by this monstrous waste of money we don't have, the have as much right to voice concerns about the impact this disaster is going to have on Newport.
[quote][p][bold]smartie40[/bold] wrote: ABP have only just realised and highlighted this and the effect on the docks.. The docks died years ago no real trade there anymore no big ships come in anymore .only a handful of dockers work there . Hardly any employment there ABP on there soap box pleading its a busy port but it is not, only a few commercial businesses there . plenty of other good ports in wales. Move on ABP you charge to much for business use there anyway..[/p][/quote]You don't call 50,000 tonne coal boats big? You don't call steel slab, steel coil, wire reel, billets, plate, logs, timber, animal feed, bio mass, scrap from the yard with the largest crane of its type in Europe... There isn't the quantity of stevedores that there used to be and the shipping is reduced but it's still there. As for only a few commercial businesses, there are 9 employers plus ABP who will be adversely affected and will have to move from their premises. Are you that desperate to take more work away from Pill? ABP business charges are also in line with all other ports in the country. They own another 21. Like anybody else who is going to be so adversely affected by this monstrous waste of money we don't have, the have as much right to voice concerns about the impact this disaster is going to have on Newport. landyman3030
  • Score: 9

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