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11:55am Fri 29 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

They look like Marxists to me, all three of them: Groucho in the one tent; Harpo and Chico in the other two:)
They look like Marxists to me, all three of them: Groucho in the one tent; Harpo and Chico in the other two:) Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 11

11:57am Fri 29 Aug 14

kez1968 says...

Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.
Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms. kez1968
  • Score: 42

12:07pm Fri 29 Aug 14

b3talover says...

I find it ironic that the very organisation they are protesting against helps to safeguard their right to protest.
I find it ironic that the very organisation they are protesting against helps to safeguard their right to protest. b3talover
  • Score: 67

12:19pm Fri 29 Aug 14

DavidMclean says...

kez1968 wrote:
Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.
If people don't like the right to peaceful protest that our forefathers gave their lives to defend, they are more than welcome to hop on a plane and go live in one of the more strict societies where protest is banned.
[quote][p][bold]kez1968[/bold] wrote: Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.[/p][/quote]If people don't like the right to peaceful protest that our forefathers gave their lives to defend, they are more than welcome to hop on a plane and go live in one of the more strict societies where protest is banned. DavidMclean
  • Score: 12

12:20pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Neil0505 says...

Why would you set up camp on a patch of bloody concrete? Beyond me. Just wondering haha
Why would you set up camp on a patch of bloody concrete? Beyond me. Just wondering haha Neil0505
  • Score: 32

12:25pm Fri 29 Aug 14

merlin44 says...

One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.
One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town. merlin44
  • Score: 47

12:30pm Fri 29 Aug 14

angry_man says...

I think my screen name is most appropriate here, why on earth did they pitch the tents on the play area, and not on the grass, like a normal camper would?

Just seeing that image of the 3 tents on the children's play area is making me angrier and angrier.
I think my screen name is most appropriate here, why on earth did they pitch the tents on the play area, and not on the grass, like a normal camper would? Just seeing that image of the 3 tents on the children's play area is making me angrier and angrier. angry_man
  • Score: 39

12:41pm Fri 29 Aug 14

golfer says...

Get a job they need to and then employer sack them for time off
Get a job they need to and then employer sack them for time off golfer
  • Score: 9

12:47pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Sheep'n'wellies says...

merlin44 wrote:
One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.
So the summit is not disruptive? And who is paying for the extra policing and that pathetic fencing?Us the taxpayers of course
[quote][p][bold]merlin44[/bold] wrote: One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.[/p][/quote]So the summit is not disruptive? And who is paying for the extra policing and that pathetic fencing?Us the taxpayers of course Sheep'n'wellies
  • Score: 36

12:47pm Fri 29 Aug 14

adesmith1972 says...

Peaceful protest yes but the disrespectful and aggressive nature of the protests last Saturday was unacceptable. It was almost as if the protestors wanted to express their views but nobody was allowed to have a different opinion. Upsetting three year old children is not going to further their cause with the general population I suspect. All I can say to the protestors is please show respect to our city and it's inhabitants.
Peaceful protest yes but the disrespectful and aggressive nature of the protests last Saturday was unacceptable. It was almost as if the protestors wanted to express their views but nobody was allowed to have a different opinion. Upsetting three year old children is not going to further their cause with the general population I suspect. All I can say to the protestors is please show respect to our city and it's inhabitants. adesmith1972
  • Score: 46

12:53pm Fri 29 Aug 14

drewy1979 says...

angry_man wrote:
I think my screen name is most appropriate here, why on earth did they pitch the tents on the play area, and not on the grass, like a normal camper would?

Just seeing that image of the 3 tents on the children's play area is making me angrier and angrier.
Just to correct angry_man. They've not actually set up camp on the children's play area. Those tents are pitched in the out of action splash pool. No children will be upset this morning 100%
[quote][p][bold]angry_man[/bold] wrote: I think my screen name is most appropriate here, why on earth did they pitch the tents on the play area, and not on the grass, like a normal camper would? Just seeing that image of the 3 tents on the children's play area is making me angrier and angrier.[/p][/quote]Just to correct angry_man. They've not actually set up camp on the children's play area. Those tents are pitched in the out of action splash pool. No children will be upset this morning 100% drewy1979
  • Score: -13

12:59pm Fri 29 Aug 14

jct says...

Police = FECKING IDIOTS !!!
Police = FECKING IDIOTS !!! jct
  • Score: -67

12:59pm Fri 29 Aug 14

throwy1 says...

I would like the banner as shown in Picture 6 be removed as I find the content highly offensive
I would like the banner as shown in Picture 6 be removed as I find the content highly offensive throwy1
  • Score: 40

1:11pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

DavidMclean wrote:
kez1968 wrote:
Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.
If people don't like the right to peaceful protest that our forefathers gave their lives to defend, they are more than welcome to hop on a plane and go live in one of the more strict societies where protest is banned.
One of the countries where they don't have ballot boxes you mean.
[quote][p][bold]DavidMclean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kez1968[/bold] wrote: Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.[/p][/quote]If people don't like the right to peaceful protest that our forefathers gave their lives to defend, they are more than welcome to hop on a plane and go live in one of the more strict societies where protest is banned.[/p][/quote]One of the countries where they don't have ballot boxes you mean. Stevenboy
  • Score: 14

1:17pm Fri 29 Aug 14

myopinion1988 says...

adesmith1972 wrote:
Peaceful protest yes but the disrespectful and aggressive nature of the protests last Saturday was unacceptable. It was almost as if the protestors wanted to express their views but nobody was allowed to have a different opinion. Upsetting three year old children is not going to further their cause with the general population I suspect. All I can say to the protestors is please show respect to our city and it's inhabitants.
what happened last saturday?
[quote][p][bold]adesmith1972[/bold] wrote: Peaceful protest yes but the disrespectful and aggressive nature of the protests last Saturday was unacceptable. It was almost as if the protestors wanted to express their views but nobody was allowed to have a different opinion. Upsetting three year old children is not going to further their cause with the general population I suspect. All I can say to the protestors is please show respect to our city and it's inhabitants.[/p][/quote]what happened last saturday? myopinion1988
  • Score: 8

1:17pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Practicing Pragmatist says...

Sheep'n'wellies wrote:
merlin44 wrote:
One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.
So the summit is not disruptive? And who is paying for the extra policing and that pathetic fencing?Us the taxpayers of course
So your answer is - because NATO is costing tax payers money it doesn't matter that protesters are also costing tax payers money? Like many of the statements and manifestos set out by the various protest groups I have read, this is hypocritical and doesn't make a great deal of sense.
[quote][p][bold]Sheep'n'wellies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlin44[/bold] wrote: One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.[/p][/quote]So the summit is not disruptive? And who is paying for the extra policing and that pathetic fencing?Us the taxpayers of course[/p][/quote]So your answer is - because NATO is costing tax payers money it doesn't matter that protesters are also costing tax payers money? Like many of the statements and manifestos set out by the various protest groups I have read, this is hypocritical and doesn't make a great deal of sense. Practicing Pragmatist
  • Score: -21

1:19pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Go-Go says...

drewy1979 wrote:
angry_man wrote:
I think my screen name is most appropriate here, why on earth did they pitch the tents on the play area, and not on the grass, like a normal camper would?

Just seeing that image of the 3 tents on the children's play area is making me angrier and angrier.
Just to correct angry_man. They've not actually set up camp on the children's play area. Those tents are pitched in the out of action splash pool. No children will be upset this morning 100%
Just to correct drewy1979

The splash pool is in the middle of the children's play area therefore if more people arrive over the coming days and set up camp around them then the children won't be able to use the play area and the children will be upset 100%
[quote][p][bold]drewy1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]angry_man[/bold] wrote: I think my screen name is most appropriate here, why on earth did they pitch the tents on the play area, and not on the grass, like a normal camper would? Just seeing that image of the 3 tents on the children's play area is making me angrier and angrier.[/p][/quote]Just to correct angry_man. They've not actually set up camp on the children's play area. Those tents are pitched in the out of action splash pool. No children will be upset this morning 100%[/p][/quote]Just to correct drewy1979 The splash pool is in the middle of the children's play area therefore if more people arrive over the coming days and set up camp around them then the children won't be able to use the play area and the children will be upset 100% Go-Go
  • Score: 32

1:21pm Fri 29 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

throwy1 wrote:
I would like the banner as shown in Picture 6 be removed as I find the content highly offensive
Care to elaborate, or is it just the fact that there is a community minded protest which offends you?
[quote][p][bold]throwy1[/bold] wrote: I would like the banner as shown in Picture 6 be removed as I find the content highly offensive[/p][/quote]Care to elaborate, or is it just the fact that there is a community minded protest which offends you? EyeOnWales
  • Score: -21

1:22pm Fri 29 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

b3talover wrote:
I find it ironic that the very organisation they are protesting against helps to safeguard their right to protest.
So, because we can protest, you think we should not...?
[quote][p][bold]b3talover[/bold] wrote: I find it ironic that the very organisation they are protesting against helps to safeguard their right to protest.[/p][/quote]So, because we can protest, you think we should not...? EyeOnWales
  • Score: -15

1:26pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Sheep'n'wellies says...

Practicing Pragmatist wrote:
Sheep'n'wellies wrote:
merlin44 wrote:
One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.
So the summit is not disruptive? And who is paying for the extra policing and that pathetic fencing?Us the taxpayers of course
So your answer is - because NATO is costing tax payers money it doesn't matter that protesters are also costing tax payers money? Like many of the statements and manifestos set out by the various protest groups I have read, this is hypocritical and doesn't make a great deal of sense.
Why should it taxpayers pay for everything in rip off Britain. The biggest thing that worries me is that we could become a target when we have the biggest terrorist leader in the world in Newport for a couple of days and who's gonna foot the bill for that?
[quote][p][bold]Practicing Pragmatist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sheep'n'wellies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlin44[/bold] wrote: One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.[/p][/quote]So the summit is not disruptive? And who is paying for the extra policing and that pathetic fencing?Us the taxpayers of course[/p][/quote]So your answer is - because NATO is costing tax payers money it doesn't matter that protesters are also costing tax payers money? Like many of the statements and manifestos set out by the various protest groups I have read, this is hypocritical and doesn't make a great deal of sense.[/p][/quote]Why should it taxpayers pay for everything in rip off Britain. The biggest thing that worries me is that we could become a target when we have the biggest terrorist leader in the world in Newport for a couple of days and who's gonna foot the bill for that? Sheep'n'wellies
  • Score: 17

1:29pm Fri 29 Aug 14

jct says...

throwy1 wrote:
I would like the banner as shown in Picture 6 be removed as I find the content highly offensive
Idiot - what's it got to do with you!! Just because you don't like it - get a life
[quote][p][bold]throwy1[/bold] wrote: I would like the banner as shown in Picture 6 be removed as I find the content highly offensive[/p][/quote]Idiot - what's it got to do with you!! Just because you don't like it - get a life jct
  • Score: -39

1:29pm Fri 29 Aug 14

myopinion1988 says...

EyeOnWales wrote:
b3talover wrote: I find it ironic that the very organisation they are protesting against helps to safeguard their right to protest.
So, because we can protest, you think we should not...?
what do you think protesting is going to acheive?
[quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b3talover[/bold] wrote: I find it ironic that the very organisation they are protesting against helps to safeguard their right to protest.[/p][/quote]So, because we can protest, you think we should not...?[/p][/quote]what do you think protesting is going to acheive? myopinion1988
  • Score: 20

1:30pm Fri 29 Aug 14

kez1968 says...

DavidMclean wrote:
kez1968 wrote:
Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.
If people don't like the right to peaceful protest that our forefathers gave their lives to defend, they are more than welcome to hop on a plane and go live in one of the more strict societies where protest is banned.
It's also nice to live in a country were I can express my opinion even though it's sometimes not what others agree with, for those who lack intelligence, I have nothing against peaceful protest, just commenting that there are more dangerous organisations than nato.
[quote][p][bold]DavidMclean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kez1968[/bold] wrote: Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.[/p][/quote]If people don't like the right to peaceful protest that our forefathers gave their lives to defend, they are more than welcome to hop on a plane and go live in one of the more strict societies where protest is banned.[/p][/quote]It's also nice to live in a country were I can express my opinion even though it's sometimes not what others agree with, for those who lack intelligence, I have nothing against peaceful protest, just commenting that there are more dangerous organisations than nato. kez1968
  • Score: 35

1:35pm Fri 29 Aug 14

hiwsnpt says...

angry_man wrote:
I think my screen name is most appropriate here, why on earth did they pitch the tents on the play area, and not on the grass, like a normal camper would?

Just seeing that image of the 3 tents on the children's play area is making me angrier and angrier.
Just for info this is the water park that newport council down a fortune on and then closed because it didn't want to spend money on repairs so it's fallen into disrepair long before today. Of course one small missile bought or sold next weekend would have rebuilt the park with state of the art facilities got the next 500 years
[quote][p][bold]angry_man[/bold] wrote: I think my screen name is most appropriate here, why on earth did they pitch the tents on the play area, and not on the grass, like a normal camper would? Just seeing that image of the 3 tents on the children's play area is making me angrier and angrier.[/p][/quote]Just for info this is the water park that newport council down a fortune on and then closed because it didn't want to spend money on repairs so it's fallen into disrepair long before today. Of course one small missile bought or sold next weekend would have rebuilt the park with state of the art facilities got the next 500 years hiwsnpt
  • Score: 4

1:45pm Fri 29 Aug 14

hiwsnpt says...

The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!!
The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!! hiwsnpt
  • Score: -28

1:46pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

It must be desperately frustrating for the pro-'freedom for Palestine' contingent that Israel is not, has never been and is hardly ever likely to be a part of the entity known as the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation. Then again, maybe they view Israel not joining NATO as just another 'sneaky Zionist trick' really, something not done deliberately to make them look silly on purpose when protesting about a completely unrelated issue at a 'No to NATO' demonstration...?!
It must be desperately frustrating for the pro-'freedom for Palestine' contingent that Israel is not, has never been and is hardly ever likely to be a part of the entity known as the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation. Then again, maybe they view Israel not joining NATO as just another 'sneaky Zionist trick' really, something not done deliberately to make them look silly on purpose when protesting about a completely unrelated issue at a 'No to NATO' demonstration...?! Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 20

1:46pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Julesblaina1 says...

the news just said that the UK government is footing the bill for the NATO summit and the welsh purse wont have to fund this. Who funds the UK Government then well us tax payers of course. Do they think we are thick
the news just said that the UK government is footing the bill for the NATO summit and the welsh purse wont have to fund this. Who funds the UK Government then well us tax payers of course. Do they think we are thick Julesblaina1
  • Score: 6

1:49pm Fri 29 Aug 14

myopinion1988 says...

hiwsnpt wrote:
The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!!
Do you think the protests and marches are going to change any of the above though?

If thats what is planned then thats what will happen no protest will change that unfortunately
[quote][p][bold]hiwsnpt[/bold] wrote: The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!![/p][/quote]Do you think the protests and marches are going to change any of the above though? If thats what is planned then thats what will happen no protest will change that unfortunately myopinion1988
  • Score: 3

1:52pm Fri 29 Aug 14

10101010 says...

Protester David Hogan arrived today from Pontypool to set up camp with his ten-year-old daughter Izabel.

He said: “We want to be here until the end, as long as possible. I have agreed with the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament for over 30 years, for what it stands for. I’m not here to protest against wars as I know some are necessary – but nuclear bombs, no.”

His daughter Izabel said: “I’m looking forward to the camp. It’s going to be fun. We will probably go for lots of walks and go to the river as well.”

She said she agreed with her father’s stance on nuclear weapons and would be staying with him in their four man tent.


** Surely, a 10 year old child returning to school as they should be next week is far more important than camping out with a bunch of idiots who's only purpose will be to disrupt the people of Newport who just want to get on with their daily lives - like GOING TO WORK all the more!!
Protester David Hogan arrived today from Pontypool to set up camp with his ten-year-old daughter Izabel. He said: “We want to be here until the end, as long as possible. I have agreed with the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament for over 30 years, for what it stands for. I’m not here to protest against wars as I know some are necessary – but nuclear bombs, no.” His daughter Izabel said: “I’m looking forward to the camp. It’s going to be fun. We will probably go for lots of walks and go to the river as well.” She said she agreed with her father’s stance on nuclear weapons and would be staying with him in their four man tent. ** Surely, a 10 year old child returning to school as they should be next week is far more important than camping out with a bunch of idiots who's only purpose will be to disrupt the people of Newport who just want to get on with their daily lives - like GOING TO WORK all the more!! 10101010
  • Score: 32

1:52pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Practicing Pragmatist says...

Sheep'n'wellies wrote:
Practicing Pragmatist wrote:
Sheep'n'wellies wrote:
merlin44 wrote:
One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.
So the summit is not disruptive? And who is paying for the extra policing and that pathetic fencing?Us the taxpayers of course
So your answer is - because NATO is costing tax payers money it doesn't matter that protesters are also costing tax payers money? Like many of the statements and manifestos set out by the various protest groups I have read, this is hypocritical and doesn't make a great deal of sense.
Why should it taxpayers pay for everything in rip off Britain. The biggest thing that worries me is that we could become a target when we have the biggest terrorist leader in the world in Newport for a couple of days and who's gonna foot the bill for that?
I find your statement confusing. Is your biggest concern;
A. Newport becomes a target for something? If so, too late, we have already become a target for various groups of protestors to wring their hands about lots of disparate issues.
B. Footing the bill for something? If you mean the protection that has been put in place, police, fences etc. surely the cost doesn't matter as you should feel more assured that there is protection in place regarding Point A? And at least a portion of this cost has been caused by protest groups descending on us.
I am not saying I agree with NATO (although I think the World would be much worse off without them at least trying to maintain civility) but at least the members of NATO were elected to make decisions on behalf of their countries whereas the protest groups are representing only themselves. So really they should be paying for their peace camp themselves shouldn't they, not expecting tax payers to fund their outings. I agree they have the right to protest but this doesn't mean they should be taking money out of the public purse to do so.
[quote][p][bold]Sheep'n'wellies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Practicing Pragmatist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sheep'n'wellies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlin44[/bold] wrote: One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.[/p][/quote]So the summit is not disruptive? And who is paying for the extra policing and that pathetic fencing?Us the taxpayers of course[/p][/quote]So your answer is - because NATO is costing tax payers money it doesn't matter that protesters are also costing tax payers money? Like many of the statements and manifestos set out by the various protest groups I have read, this is hypocritical and doesn't make a great deal of sense.[/p][/quote]Why should it taxpayers pay for everything in rip off Britain. The biggest thing that worries me is that we could become a target when we have the biggest terrorist leader in the world in Newport for a couple of days and who's gonna foot the bill for that?[/p][/quote]I find your statement confusing. Is your biggest concern; A. Newport becomes a target for something? If so, too late, we have already become a target for various groups of protestors to wring their hands about lots of disparate issues. B. Footing the bill for something? If you mean the protection that has been put in place, police, fences etc. surely the cost doesn't matter as you should feel more assured that there is protection in place regarding Point A? And at least a portion of this cost has been caused by protest groups descending on us. I am not saying I agree with NATO (although I think the World would be much worse off without them at least trying to maintain civility) but at least the members of NATO were elected to make decisions on behalf of their countries whereas the protest groups are representing only themselves. So really they should be paying for their peace camp themselves shouldn't they, not expecting tax payers to fund their outings. I agree they have the right to protest but this doesn't mean they should be taking money out of the public purse to do so. Practicing Pragmatist
  • Score: 0

1:56pm Fri 29 Aug 14

displayed says...

Welcome to chaos, control and manipultation thats now invading Newport City.
Not to mention the police state experiment in crowd control and the kettling needed!
So will the last one to leave, please switch out the lites...............
Welcome to chaos, control and manipultation thats now invading Newport City. Not to mention the police state experiment in crowd control and the kettling needed! So will the last one to leave, please switch out the lites............... displayed
  • Score: -21

1:58pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Gareth says...

"Did you see those dirty outsiders coming to our town and causing trouble yesterday? Good job the police dealt with them. Their own fault. Those who think they can come here with all their airs and graces, disrupting my life and walking on my turf will get what's coming to them. GO HOME YOU IDIOTS.

I don't care what they are marching for; I just know that I'm against it.

And if you expect me to pay for all that mess on The Westgate Hotel...."

If Ye Olde Argus did comments sections on 5th November 1839.
"Did you see those dirty outsiders coming to our town and causing trouble yesterday? Good job the police dealt with them. Their own fault. Those who think they can come here with all their airs and graces, disrupting my life and walking on my turf will get what's coming to them. GO HOME YOU IDIOTS. I don't care what they are marching for; I just know that I'm against it. And if you expect me to pay for all that mess on The Westgate Hotel...." If Ye Olde Argus did comments sections on 5th November 1839. Gareth
  • Score: 13

2:02pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

hiwsnpt wrote:
The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!!
Well said comrade.
Now go back to your communist regime.
[quote][p][bold]hiwsnpt[/bold] wrote: The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!![/p][/quote]Well said comrade. Now go back to your communist regime. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 7

2:03pm Fri 29 Aug 14

grandmammamia says...

myopinion1988 wrote:
adesmith1972 wrote:
Peaceful protest yes but the disrespectful and aggressive nature of the protests last Saturday was unacceptable. It was almost as if the protestors wanted to express their views but nobody was allowed to have a different opinion. Upsetting three year old children is not going to further their cause with the general population I suspect. All I can say to the protestors is please show respect to our city and it's inhabitants.
what happened last saturday?
I don't know where adesmith1972 was but I was at the Riverside with my family all day and the only protesters we saw were the CND lot (not many) who marched across, stood outside the Theatre and sang (mostly) 60's protest songs. Some handed out leaflets and when I politely refused didn't hassle me. They tried to drown out the military band but were spectacularly unsuccessful but they all jolly smiles on their faces and looked to be having a great time.
[quote][p][bold]myopinion1988[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]adesmith1972[/bold] wrote: Peaceful protest yes but the disrespectful and aggressive nature of the protests last Saturday was unacceptable. It was almost as if the protestors wanted to express their views but nobody was allowed to have a different opinion. Upsetting three year old children is not going to further their cause with the general population I suspect. All I can say to the protestors is please show respect to our city and it's inhabitants.[/p][/quote]what happened last saturday?[/p][/quote]I don't know where adesmith1972 was but I was at the Riverside with my family all day and the only protesters we saw were the CND lot (not many) who marched across, stood outside the Theatre and sang (mostly) 60's protest songs. Some handed out leaflets and when I politely refused didn't hassle me. They tried to drown out the military band but were spectacularly unsuccessful but they all jolly smiles on their faces and looked to be having a great time. grandmammamia
  • Score: 15

2:05pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Sheep'n'wellies says...

Practicing Pragmatist wrote:
Sheep'n'wellies wrote:
Practicing Pragmatist wrote:
Sheep'n'wellies wrote:
merlin44 wrote:
One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.
So the summit is not disruptive? And who is paying for the extra policing and that pathetic fencing?Us the taxpayers of course
So your answer is - because NATO is costing tax payers money it doesn't matter that protesters are also costing tax payers money? Like many of the statements and manifestos set out by the various protest groups I have read, this is hypocritical and doesn't make a great deal of sense.
Why should it taxpayers pay for everything in rip off Britain. The biggest thing that worries me is that we could become a target when we have the biggest terrorist leader in the world in Newport for a couple of days and who's gonna foot the bill for that?
I find your statement confusing. Is your biggest concern;
A. Newport becomes a target for something? If so, too late, we have already become a target for various groups of protestors to wring their hands about lots of disparate issues.
B. Footing the bill for something? If you mean the protection that has been put in place, police, fences etc. surely the cost doesn't matter as you should feel more assured that there is protection in place regarding Point A? And at least a portion of this cost has been caused by protest groups descending on us.
I am not saying I agree with NATO (although I think the World would be much worse off without them at least trying to maintain civility) but at least the members of NATO were elected to make decisions on behalf of their countries whereas the protest groups are representing only themselves. So really they should be paying for their peace camp themselves shouldn't they, not expecting tax payers to fund their outings. I agree they have the right to protest but this doesn't mean they should be taking money out of the public purse to do so.
How is a fence gonna stop a plane? Trawl the internet and you will find videos and statements about how europes 9/11 is on it's way. Flight MH 370 anyone!!!
[quote][p][bold]Practicing Pragmatist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sheep'n'wellies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Practicing Pragmatist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sheep'n'wellies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlin44[/bold] wrote: One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.[/p][/quote]So the summit is not disruptive? And who is paying for the extra policing and that pathetic fencing?Us the taxpayers of course[/p][/quote]So your answer is - because NATO is costing tax payers money it doesn't matter that protesters are also costing tax payers money? Like many of the statements and manifestos set out by the various protest groups I have read, this is hypocritical and doesn't make a great deal of sense.[/p][/quote]Why should it taxpayers pay for everything in rip off Britain. The biggest thing that worries me is that we could become a target when we have the biggest terrorist leader in the world in Newport for a couple of days and who's gonna foot the bill for that?[/p][/quote]I find your statement confusing. Is your biggest concern; A. Newport becomes a target for something? If so, too late, we have already become a target for various groups of protestors to wring their hands about lots of disparate issues. B. Footing the bill for something? If you mean the protection that has been put in place, police, fences etc. surely the cost doesn't matter as you should feel more assured that there is protection in place regarding Point A? And at least a portion of this cost has been caused by protest groups descending on us. I am not saying I agree with NATO (although I think the World would be much worse off without them at least trying to maintain civility) but at least the members of NATO were elected to make decisions on behalf of their countries whereas the protest groups are representing only themselves. So really they should be paying for their peace camp themselves shouldn't they, not expecting tax payers to fund their outings. I agree they have the right to protest but this doesn't mean they should be taking money out of the public purse to do so.[/p][/quote]How is a fence gonna stop a plane? Trawl the internet and you will find videos and statements about how europes 9/11 is on it's way. Flight MH 370 anyone!!! Sheep'n'wellies
  • Score: -6

2:11pm Fri 29 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

myopinion1988 wrote:
EyeOnWales wrote:
b3talover wrote: I find it ironic that the very organisation they are protesting against helps to safeguard their right to protest.
So, because we can protest, you think we should not...?
what do you think protesting is going to acheive?
Ultimately it does not matter whether it achieves anything or not, it is people exercising their legal right to protest over something they disagree with. That is justification enough.

Incidentally, your question is akin to asking what will the Nato summit achieve? Apart from signing off on decisions which have been discussed by representatives of attending nations for weeks, if not months prior to the summit, it will achieve nothing.

There is no irony in protesting against Nato, it is not the guardian of a right to protest. You might recall protesters were blocked from entering Lisbon, in relation to a Nato summit. It is the right of Nato to meet, it is the right of those oppose their actions and intent to protest.
[quote][p][bold]myopinion1988[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b3talover[/bold] wrote: I find it ironic that the very organisation they are protesting against helps to safeguard their right to protest.[/p][/quote]So, because we can protest, you think we should not...?[/p][/quote]what do you think protesting is going to acheive?[/p][/quote]Ultimately it does not matter whether it achieves anything or not, it is people exercising their legal right to protest over something they disagree with. That is justification enough. Incidentally, your question is akin to asking what will the Nato summit achieve? Apart from signing off on decisions which have been discussed by representatives of attending nations for weeks, if not months prior to the summit, it will achieve nothing. There is no irony in protesting against Nato, it is not the guardian of a right to protest. You might recall protesters were blocked from entering Lisbon, in relation to a Nato summit. It is the right of Nato to meet, it is the right of those oppose their actions and intent to protest. EyeOnWales
  • Score: 4

2:11pm Fri 29 Aug 14

fitbird says...

Are the protesters paying to camp ? Maybe if they were to pay per person per night the council could afford to repair the childrens splash area to reopen !
Are the protesters paying to camp ? Maybe if they were to pay per person per night the council could afford to repair the childrens splash area to reopen ! fitbird
  • Score: 27

2:13pm Fri 29 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

Gareth wrote:
"Did you see those dirty outsiders coming to our town and causing trouble yesterday? Good job the police dealt with them. Their own fault. Those who think they can come here with all their airs and graces, disrupting my life and walking on my turf will get what's coming to them. GO HOME YOU IDIOTS.

I don't care what they are marching for; I just know that I'm against it.

And if you expect me to pay for all that mess on The Westgate Hotel...."

If Ye Olde Argus did comments sections on 5th November 1839.
Brilliant :)
[quote][p][bold]Gareth[/bold] wrote: "Did you see those dirty outsiders coming to our town and causing trouble yesterday? Good job the police dealt with them. Their own fault. Those who think they can come here with all their airs and graces, disrupting my life and walking on my turf will get what's coming to them. GO HOME YOU IDIOTS. I don't care what they are marching for; I just know that I'm against it. And if you expect me to pay for all that mess on The Westgate Hotel...." If Ye Olde Argus did comments sections on 5th November 1839.[/p][/quote]Brilliant :) EyeOnWales
  • Score: -3

2:14pm Fri 29 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

Gareth wrote:
"Did you see those dirty outsiders coming to our town and causing trouble yesterday? Good job the police dealt with them. Their own fault. Those who think they can come here with all their airs and graces, disrupting my life and walking on my turf will get what's coming to them. GO HOME YOU IDIOTS.

I don't care what they are marching for; I just know that I'm against it.

And if you expect me to pay for all that mess on The Westgate Hotel...."

If Ye Olde Argus did comments sections on 5th November 1839.
Brilliant :)
[quote][p][bold]Gareth[/bold] wrote: "Did you see those dirty outsiders coming to our town and causing trouble yesterday? Good job the police dealt with them. Their own fault. Those who think they can come here with all their airs and graces, disrupting my life and walking on my turf will get what's coming to them. GO HOME YOU IDIOTS. I don't care what they are marching for; I just know that I'm against it. And if you expect me to pay for all that mess on The Westgate Hotel...." If Ye Olde Argus did comments sections on 5th November 1839.[/p][/quote]Brilliant :) EyeOnWales
  • Score: -5

2:26pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Howie' says...

Gareth wrote:
"Did you see those dirty outsiders coming to our town and causing trouble yesterday? Good job the police dealt with them. Their own fault. Those who think they can come here with all their airs and graces, disrupting my life and walking on my turf will get what's coming to them. GO HOME YOU IDIOTS.

I don't care what they are marching for; I just know that I'm against it.

And if you expect me to pay for all that mess on The Westgate Hotel...."

If Ye Olde Argus did comments sections on 5th November 1839.
Ha, nice one Gareth although I suspect the subtlety will be lost on some.
[quote][p][bold]Gareth[/bold] wrote: "Did you see those dirty outsiders coming to our town and causing trouble yesterday? Good job the police dealt with them. Their own fault. Those who think they can come here with all their airs and graces, disrupting my life and walking on my turf will get what's coming to them. GO HOME YOU IDIOTS. I don't care what they are marching for; I just know that I'm against it. And if you expect me to pay for all that mess on The Westgate Hotel...." If Ye Olde Argus did comments sections on 5th November 1839.[/p][/quote]Ha, nice one Gareth although I suspect the subtlety will be lost on some. Howie'
  • Score: -4

2:27pm Fri 29 Aug 14

CJT1987 says...

DavidMclean wrote:
kez1968 wrote:
Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.
If people don't like the right to peaceful protest that our forefathers gave their lives to defend, they are more than welcome to hop on a plane and go live in one of the more strict societies where protest is banned.
Why aren't you protesting at being banned from protesting? These leaders get the same treatment everywhere they go for one reason or another and a peaceful protest in a Welsh City is not going to generate world peace, stop world hunger, stop babies from getting terminal illnesses or animal cruelty. How about donate £100 to a charity of your choice and make a difference without being an inconvenience before I start a protest against your protesting.
[quote][p][bold]DavidMclean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kez1968[/bold] wrote: Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.[/p][/quote]If people don't like the right to peaceful protest that our forefathers gave their lives to defend, they are more than welcome to hop on a plane and go live in one of the more strict societies where protest is banned.[/p][/quote]Why aren't you protesting at being banned from protesting? These leaders get the same treatment everywhere they go for one reason or another and a peaceful protest in a Welsh City is not going to generate world peace, stop world hunger, stop babies from getting terminal illnesses or animal cruelty. How about donate £100 to a charity of your choice and make a difference without being an inconvenience before I start a protest against your protesting. CJT1987
  • Score: 8

2:28pm Fri 29 Aug 14

joycewales11 says...

What a waste of money when the Royal Gwent needs so much and why not used the disused steelworks site for protestors. The beautiful park will be trashed and i expect the A and E will be overrun. GREAT PLANNING!
What a waste of money when the Royal Gwent needs so much and why not used the disused steelworks site for protestors. The beautiful park will be trashed and i expect the A and E will be overrun. GREAT PLANNING! joycewales11
  • Score: 20

2:37pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Julesblaina1 says...

UK terrorist threat level raised to 'severe', Theresa May says i wonder if having all the worlds leaders in newport at this time will mean newport is on an even higher alert
UK terrorist threat level raised to 'severe', Theresa May says i wonder if having all the worlds leaders in newport at this time will mean newport is on an even higher alert Julesblaina1
  • Score: 12

2:41pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

"Avoid the use of flares"

Admittedly, 46 years' on from 1968 is high time you changed your wardrobe, ya hippies!:)
"Avoid the use of flares" Admittedly, 46 years' on from 1968 is high time you changed your wardrobe, ya hippies!:) Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 13

2:54pm Fri 29 Aug 14

heresphil says...

Today the threat level in Newport has been raised to 'hysterical'.
Today the threat level in Newport has been raised to 'hysterical'. heresphil
  • Score: 23

3:30pm Fri 29 Aug 14

cjwales1 says...

I met Pippa a few years ago via a recycling site and she is indeed a very lovely lady, ok our politics didnt match, however each to their own !!!!
Do think her credibilty has been destroyed by the Pill Mill Fiasco, I dont agree with the protests but I agree with the right to protest, Just dont think her face should be the poster girl !!! Integrity means a lot !!!
I met Pippa a few years ago via a recycling site and she is indeed a very lovely lady, ok our politics didnt match, however each to their own !!!! Do think her credibilty has been destroyed by the Pill Mill Fiasco, I dont agree with the protests but I agree with the right to protest, Just dont think her face should be the poster girl !!! Integrity means a lot !!! cjwales1
  • Score: 4

3:34pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Magor says...

hiwsnpt wrote:
The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!!
What Nuclear power stations? There are no new sites planned.The new station will be on the existing site.
[quote][p][bold]hiwsnpt[/bold] wrote: The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!![/p][/quote]What Nuclear power stations? There are no new sites planned.The new station will be on the existing site. Magor
  • Score: 7

3:49pm Fri 29 Aug 14

The Destroyer says...

hiwsnpt wrote:
The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!!
You really have had nothing to do since Greenham Common closed have you.
I'm not aware that conscription has been reintroduced, therefore no one will be "sent" to any NATO war.
If you don't like being part of it then ship out - I understand North Korea is nice at this time of the year.
[quote][p][bold]hiwsnpt[/bold] wrote: The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!![/p][/quote]You really have had nothing to do since Greenham Common closed have you. I'm not aware that conscription has been reintroduced, therefore no one will be "sent" to any NATO war. If you don't like being part of it then ship out - I understand North Korea is nice at this time of the year. The Destroyer
  • Score: 26

3:58pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

hiwsnpt wrote:
The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!!
"Masonic"? "Orchestrated"? Do you believe that wars are deliberately engineered as a result of a secret conspiracy by freemasons?
[quote][p][bold]hiwsnpt[/bold] wrote: The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!![/p][/quote]"Masonic"? "Orchestrated"? Do you believe that wars are deliberately engineered as a result of a secret conspiracy by freemasons? Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 8

4:11pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Sheep'n'wellies says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
hiwsnpt wrote:
The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!!
"Masonic"? "Orchestrated"? Do you believe that wars are deliberately engineered as a result of a secret conspiracy by freemasons?
No by the Americans
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hiwsnpt[/bold] wrote: The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!![/p][/quote]"Masonic"? "Orchestrated"? Do you believe that wars are deliberately engineered as a result of a secret conspiracy by freemasons?[/p][/quote]No by the Americans Sheep'n'wellies
  • Score: -3

4:16pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

hiwsnpt wrote:
The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!!
Oddly enough two of the three biggest arms sellers in the world aren't NATO members. Russia and China. And they are not at all particular about their markets.
[quote][p][bold]hiwsnpt[/bold] wrote: The protestors are not the problem although they will be made out to be over the coming days. Let's not avoid the fact thAt NATO are here to plan wars and sell weapons it's basically a huge weapons fair. Wales is being lined up to host the uk nuclear missiles once Scotland kicks them out. Our national parks and areas if beauty are getting nice nuclear power stations to supply England and over 20% of our people and children in Wales are living in poverty while our infrastructures are crumbling around us. Thank NATO when our young people get sent to their next orchestrated war to die in their thousands . They choose newport to support their Masonic mate terry m and let's face it it's not z hard place to damage any further !!![/p][/quote]Oddly enough two of the three biggest arms sellers in the world aren't NATO members. Russia and China. And they are not at all particular about their markets. Stevenboy
  • Score: 25

4:25pm Fri 29 Aug 14

adesmith1972 says...

We were at the 'salute' in Westgate Sq and later on down at the Riverfront. At the 'salute' there were lots of people complaining and asking the police officers to move the protestors on and some people got upset and left, saying that they were spoiling it. In my opinion, to be catterwauling (if that is the right spelling) whilst people are trying to enjoy the military band was disrespectful - just my opinion. They could easily have done that elsewhere, made their point and respected other people's right to enjoy the 'salute'. When people were handed leaflets at this stage, if they said that they didn't want them and said that they didn't agree they were aggressively dismissed. Equally people around us (and I can only speak for that small area) when they asked questions of the protestors or when they made their own points they were shouted down with in what was my opinion rather childish and unfounded propaganda. Later at the Riverfront there was a dispute where one of the protestors had harassed a parent who was letting his three year old climb on the camp. The parent was very upset because the protestor had said within in his child's hearing that he was climbing on a killing machine. Again, the protestor is entitled to their point of view. I am not sure that it should be expressed like that and in those circumstances. The police were involved because the argument was quite heated and the protestors were dealt with - I think they were asked to allow people to continue with their business unintimidated. As far as I could see, they then grouped and quietly protested which is perhaps what they should have done in the first place. Let me make it clear again, I don't agree with what they were saying but I do respect their right to protest. That works both ways though and a bit of respect doesn't go amiss. They may even find that people are more prepared to listen to them!
We were at the 'salute' in Westgate Sq and later on down at the Riverfront. At the 'salute' there were lots of people complaining and asking the police officers to move the protestors on and some people got upset and left, saying that they were spoiling it. In my opinion, to be catterwauling (if that is the right spelling) whilst people are trying to enjoy the military band was disrespectful - just my opinion. They could easily have done that elsewhere, made their point and respected other people's right to enjoy the 'salute'. When people were handed leaflets at this stage, if they said that they didn't want them and said that they didn't agree they were aggressively dismissed. Equally people around us (and I can only speak for that small area) when they asked questions of the protestors or when they made their own points they were shouted down with in what was my opinion rather childish and unfounded propaganda. Later at the Riverfront there was a dispute where one of the protestors had harassed a parent who was letting his three year old climb on the camp. The parent was very upset because the protestor had said within in his child's hearing that he was climbing on a killing machine. Again, the protestor is entitled to their point of view. I am not sure that it should be expressed like that and in those circumstances. The police were involved because the argument was quite heated and the protestors were dealt with - I think they were asked to allow people to continue with their business unintimidated. As far as I could see, they then grouped and quietly protested which is perhaps what they should have done in the first place. Let me make it clear again, I don't agree with what they were saying but I do respect their right to protest. That works both ways though and a bit of respect doesn't go amiss. They may even find that people are more prepared to listen to them! adesmith1972
  • Score: 35

5:15pm Fri 29 Aug 14

SpaceRaiders says...

EyeOnWales wrote:
throwy1 wrote:
I would like the banner as shown in Picture 6 be removed as I find the content highly offensive
Care to elaborate, or is it just the fact that there is a community minded protest which offends you?
I think it's probably the slurs and lies on it. I might put some banners up round Newport saying that the Green Party actively supports and funds IS if it's ok to just make stuff up.
[quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]throwy1[/bold] wrote: I would like the banner as shown in Picture 6 be removed as I find the content highly offensive[/p][/quote]Care to elaborate, or is it just the fact that there is a community minded protest which offends you?[/p][/quote]I think it's probably the slurs and lies on it. I might put some banners up round Newport saying that the Green Party actively supports and funds IS if it's ok to just make stuff up. SpaceRaiders
  • Score: 27

5:20pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Charlie1501 says...

Is no-one even the remotest bit excited?......You lot are losing your sense of occasion....
Is no-one even the remotest bit excited?......You lot are losing your sense of occasion.... Charlie1501
  • Score: -5

5:52pm Fri 29 Aug 14

GogExile says...

Just about to knock off work and pop to town for a pint. I'm appropriately attired for the smug clouds and periods of condescention I'll no doubt encounter.
Just about to knock off work and pop to town for a pint. I'm appropriately attired for the smug clouds and periods of condescention I'll no doubt encounter. GogExile
  • Score: -5

6:03pm Fri 29 Aug 14

marks missus says...

So does anybody know what time the roadsare closed till tomorrow and when are the buses going to start up again as some of my work mates need to get home after work
So does anybody know what time the roadsare closed till tomorrow and when are the buses going to start up again as some of my work mates need to get home after work marks missus
  • Score: 10

6:03pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Dave634872647 says...

Sheep'n'wellies wrote:
merlin44 wrote:
One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.
So the summit is not disruptive? And who is paying for the extra policing and that pathetic fencing?Us the taxpayers of course
lol, comforts... go down there with your tent and experience it yourself. comforts, lol you. :)

I think you just want to slag peeps off and do nothing. if you want billions of pounds of tax payers money to be spent on more nuclear weapons when we already have enough blow up the world blox, then do nothing. but wouldn't that mean that you agtee to that noncence wouldn't it?

if you don't want that kind of rubbish going on then do something about it. if you do nothing, the thing you don't want is going to happen anyway...

sit there and complain about it all or show up and be counted.

as far as all the other protests are concerned, they are not the reason why i will show up. ban nuclear weapons... they are stupid. that is why i will show up. :)
[quote][p][bold]Sheep'n'wellies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlin44[/bold] wrote: One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.[/p][/quote]So the summit is not disruptive? And who is paying for the extra policing and that pathetic fencing?Us the taxpayers of course[/p][/quote]lol, comforts... go down there with your tent and experience it yourself. comforts, lol you. :) I think you just want to slag peeps off and do nothing. if you want billions of pounds of tax payers money to be spent on more nuclear weapons when we already have enough blow up the world blox, then do nothing. but wouldn't that mean that you agtee to that noncence wouldn't it? if you don't want that kind of rubbish going on then do something about it. if you do nothing, the thing you don't want is going to happen anyway... sit there and complain about it all or show up and be counted. as far as all the other protests are concerned, they are not the reason why i will show up. ban nuclear weapons... they are stupid. that is why i will show up. :) Dave634872647
  • Score: -24

6:18pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Mongino says...

golfer wrote:
Get a job they need to and then employer sack them for time off
Who are you, Yoda?
[quote][p][bold]golfer[/bold] wrote: Get a job they need to and then employer sack them for time off[/p][/quote]Who are you, Yoda? Mongino
  • Score: -2

6:27pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Strider says...

I was given one of those No to Nato leaflets by some stereotype Peace Woman with short hair and dungaree's.. And yes I actually read it..

Screaming people down as whingers/Xenophobes(
deathly fear off anything Alien according to the Dictionary) is cringe worthy embarrassing! If these people protested in Iraq, Russia, Brazil etc they're bodies would end up in ditch somewhere.. Nato whom they hate allows them the right to free speech.. The Mini Hitlers, Internet Rambo's and anarchists on this forum are just as bad as the people there protesting against.. Total Totalitarians!
I was given one of those No to Nato leaflets by some stereotype Peace Woman with short hair and dungaree's.. And yes I actually read it.. Screaming people down as whingers/Xenophobes( deathly fear off anything Alien according to the Dictionary) is cringe worthy embarrassing! If these people protested in Iraq, Russia, Brazil etc they're bodies would end up in ditch somewhere.. Nato whom they hate allows them the right to free speech.. The Mini Hitlers, Internet Rambo's and anarchists on this forum are just as bad as the people there protesting against.. Total Totalitarians! Strider
  • Score: 23

6:29pm Fri 29 Aug 14

anigel says...

When you bring your "peaceful protest" and disrupt the lives of other people who are desperately trying to earn a living to support their families and to go about their every day lives then you lose all respect from me.

Go back home and protest in your own high street in your own place of work and screw up your own lives instead of ours.
When you bring your "peaceful protest" and disrupt the lives of other people who are desperately trying to earn a living to support their families and to go about their every day lives then you lose all respect from me. Go back home and protest in your own high street in your own place of work and screw up your own lives instead of ours. anigel
  • Score: 13

6:49pm Fri 29 Aug 14

john.hall1000 says...

Let's hope Newport is remembered for the good things, and not the bad.
Let's hope Newport is remembered for the good things, and not the bad. john.hall1000
  • Score: 14

6:51pm Fri 29 Aug 14

alritebutt says...

YOGURT KNITTERS GO HOME! DONT PROTEST IN OUR NAME. WELCOME NATO!
YOGURT KNITTERS GO HOME! DONT PROTEST IN OUR NAME. WELCOME NATO! alritebutt
  • Score: 6

6:52pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Strider says...

anigel wrote:
When you bring your "peaceful protest" and disrupt the lives of other people who are desperately trying to earn a living to support their families and to go about their every day lives then you lose all respect from me.

Go back home and protest in your own high street in your own place of work and screw up your own lives instead of ours.
Good to read a well written well argued post.. You do realise these people who are trying to earn a living to support they're family's are Moaning Whingers, who hate anybody who's not local.. It's true because some crusty from England camping in Tredagar park said so
[quote][p][bold]anigel[/bold] wrote: When you bring your "peaceful protest" and disrupt the lives of other people who are desperately trying to earn a living to support their families and to go about their every day lives then you lose all respect from me. Go back home and protest in your own high street in your own place of work and screw up your own lives instead of ours.[/p][/quote]Good to read a well written well argued post.. You do realise these people who are trying to earn a living to support they're family's are Moaning Whingers, who hate anybody who's not local.. It's true because some crusty from England camping in Tredagar park said so Strider
  • Score: -8

6:53pm Fri 29 Aug 14

BernardCCC says...

DavidMclean wrote:
kez1968 wrote:
Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.
If people don't like the right to peaceful protest that our forefathers gave their lives to defend, they are more than welcome to hop on a plane and go live in one of the more strict societies where protest is banned.
Accidently voted thumbs down...wish there was an undo button as I strongly agree with you.
[quote][p][bold]DavidMclean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kez1968[/bold] wrote: Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.[/p][/quote]If people don't like the right to peaceful protest that our forefathers gave their lives to defend, they are more than welcome to hop on a plane and go live in one of the more strict societies where protest is banned.[/p][/quote]Accidently voted thumbs down...wish there was an undo button as I strongly agree with you. BernardCCC
  • Score: 8

6:54pm Fri 29 Aug 14

b3talover says...

EyeOnWales wrote:
b3talover wrote:
I find it ironic that the very organisation they are protesting against helps to safeguard their right to protest.
So, because we can protest, you think we should not...?
The choice is yours.
[quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b3talover[/bold] wrote: I find it ironic that the very organisation they are protesting against helps to safeguard their right to protest.[/p][/quote]So, because we can protest, you think we should not...?[/p][/quote]The choice is yours. b3talover
  • Score: 6

7:33pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

"Dear Sirs"?!!!

Either this is totally sexist, or I didn't realise that Angela Merkel was a man!
"Dear Sirs"?!!! Either this is totally sexist, or I didn't realise that Angela Merkel was a man! Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 9

7:38pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

At least the last Labour government never broke international law by invading a sovereign country and bombing it to smithereens killing thousands of civilians, did they?
At least the last Labour government never broke international law by invading a sovereign country and bombing it to smithereens killing thousands of civilians, did they? Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 1

7:43pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Aquarius says...

I presume the raising of the UK threat level will give every bone-headed copper and their superiors an excuse to cause maximum disruption to local people, and justify a greater than average interest in trying to prevent people going about lawful business.

Just because they can?
I presume the raising of the UK threat level will give every bone-headed copper and their superiors an excuse to cause maximum disruption to local people, and justify a greater than average interest in trying to prevent people going about lawful business. Just because they can? Aquarius
  • Score: -15

7:49pm Fri 29 Aug 14

GogExile says...

Aquarius wrote:
I presume the raising of the UK threat level will give every bone-headed copper and their superiors an excuse to cause maximum disruption to local people, and justify a greater than average interest in trying to prevent people going about lawful business.

Just because they can?
I presume that if your house is being burgled you'll ring the Green Party rather than the bone-headed police? Alternatively, you could join the police and risk your personal safety on a daily basis whilst trying to change ideals from the inside?
[quote][p][bold]Aquarius[/bold] wrote: I presume the raising of the UK threat level will give every bone-headed copper and their superiors an excuse to cause maximum disruption to local people, and justify a greater than average interest in trying to prevent people going about lawful business. Just because they can?[/p][/quote]I presume that if your house is being burgled you'll ring the Green Party rather than the bone-headed police? Alternatively, you could join the police and risk your personal safety on a daily basis whilst trying to change ideals from the inside? GogExile
  • Score: 19

8:19pm Fri 29 Aug 14

cjwales1 says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
At least the last Labour government never broke international law by invading a sovereign country and bombing it to smithereens killing thousands of civilians, did they?
Katie Katie Katie

was gonna compliment you on the fact you didnt mention sexuality/gender on every post !!!!! You have actually made some very very intelligent and observed comments lately !!!!
However you are again spouting BS
Get it together if you want people to take your thoughts seriously !!!!
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: At least the last Labour government never broke international law by invading a sovereign country and bombing it to smithereens killing thousands of civilians, did they?[/p][/quote]Katie Katie Katie was gonna compliment you on the fact you didnt mention sexuality/gender on every post !!!!! You have actually made some very very intelligent and observed comments lately !!!! However you are again spouting BS Get it together if you want people to take your thoughts seriously !!!! cjwales1
  • Score: -5

8:22pm Fri 29 Aug 14

dereksboy says...

Very busy in Newport today 90 % of the people had blue hats on . What was that all about? Didn't see them spending much money . I now know where the expression 'a bobby's job ' came from .
Very busy in Newport today 90 % of the people had blue hats on . What was that all about? Didn't see them spending much money . I now know where the expression 'a bobby's job ' came from . dereksboy
  • Score: -3

8:26pm Fri 29 Aug 14

33daverave says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
At least the last Labour government never broke international law by invading a sovereign country and bombing it to smithereens killing thousands of civilians, did they?
er,yes actually.
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: At least the last Labour government never broke international law by invading a sovereign country and bombing it to smithereens killing thousands of civilians, did they?[/p][/quote]er,yes actually. 33daverave
  • Score: 2

8:52pm Fri 29 Aug 14

mrBEEF says...

Nuclear energy is the best kind of energy
Nuclear energy is the best kind of energy mrBEEF
  • Score: 1

9:19pm Fri 29 Aug 14

ROGERREDLIGHT says...

Ask them to complete a questionnaire,with the following questions within,

1. Amount of UK tax paid last 12 months
2. Do you have a criminal record.
3. Please highlight your experience of International Politics
4. Did you take time off work to come and protest.

Once you have this valuable info collected and processed, please ask yourself if you general impression is that thos ewho are demonstrating are people of genuine worth and substance...........
....
Ask them to complete a questionnaire,with the following questions within, 1. Amount of UK tax paid last 12 months 2. Do you have a criminal record. 3. Please highlight your experience of International Politics [please leave any matters you red in the newspapers out] 4. Did you take time off work to come and protest. Once you have this valuable info collected and processed, please ask yourself if you general impression is that thos ewho are demonstrating are people of genuine worth and substance........... .... ROGERREDLIGHT
  • Score: 7

9:42pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Evil Flanker says...

The amount of apathy in these comments is quite saddening.
The amount of apathy in these comments is quite saddening. Evil Flanker
  • Score: -4

9:53pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Jonnytrouble says...

Could be fun days from tomorrow !
Cops ( English ) ready for a bit of ' Welsh bashing ' as per the miners strike.( source from miners I new )
Always the ones that want some enjoyment to ease ' bore dome ' !
Then then you have ' one protester ' that wants to test the cops followed by OTHER protesters ( plant a bad mob ) back up and
HEY HO fun time !
Keep well away if YOU don't want to be labelled as the ' trouble maker ' and get ' accidently caught up with the ' so called peaceful protesters ' EH !
AND
to add who the hell allowed them to camp in Tredegar park ?
What about those Newport Council taxpayers that want to go there but afraid to as there could be trouble ahead ?
NATO,i can't wait till you bugger off as im fed up of the hell birds coming and going over my house !
FINALLY
THE WINNER is .....Mr T M and his family WHO must loving it ,profit,profit,profi
t, rubbing his hands and laughing at us poor mortals putting up with this crap !
Could be fun days from tomorrow ! Cops ( English ) ready for a bit of ' Welsh bashing ' as per the miners strike.( source from miners I new ) Always the ones that want some enjoyment to ease ' bore dome ' ! Then then you have ' one protester ' that wants to test the cops followed by OTHER protesters ( plant a bad mob ) back up and HEY HO fun time ! Keep well away if YOU don't want to be labelled as the ' trouble maker ' and get ' accidently caught up with the ' so called peaceful protesters ' EH ! AND to add who the hell allowed them to camp in Tredegar park ? What about those Newport Council taxpayers that want to go there but afraid to as there could be trouble ahead ? NATO,i can't wait till you bugger off as im fed up of the hell birds coming and going over my house ! FINALLY THE WINNER is .....Mr T M and his family WHO must loving it ,profit,profit,profi t, rubbing his hands and laughing at us poor mortals putting up with this crap ! Jonnytrouble
  • Score: -2

10:02pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Dusty101 says...

All Very serious on here today". Does anyone know if the water park was actually disconnected and where the valve is ? ;)
All Very serious on here today". Does anyone know if the water park was actually disconnected and where the valve is ? ;) Dusty101
  • Score: 7

10:15pm Fri 29 Aug 14

newport15 says...

shame its raining on the unwashed, still it could be for the best, maybe tesco on cardiff road could throw them a few bars of soap
shame its raining on the unwashed, still it could be for the best, maybe tesco on cardiff road could throw them a few bars of soap newport15
  • Score: 4

10:20pm Fri 29 Aug 14

eastofthecity says...

john.hall1000 wrote:
Let's hope Newport is remembered for the good things, and not the bad.
enlighten me as to what the good things are , rain drugs drunks and more rain.
[quote][p][bold]john.hall1000[/bold] wrote: Let's hope Newport is remembered for the good things, and not the bad.[/p][/quote]enlighten me as to what the good things are , rain drugs drunks and more rain. eastofthecity
  • Score: 3

10:48pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Dave634872647 says...

Practicing Pragmatist wrote:
Sheep'n'wellies wrote:
merlin44 wrote:
One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.
So the summit is not disruptive? And who is paying for the extra policing and that pathetic fencing?Us the taxpayers of course
So your answer is - because NATO is costing tax payers money it doesn't matter that protesters are also costing tax payers money? Like many of the statements and manifestos set out by the various protest groups I have read, this is hypocritical and doesn't make a great deal of sense.
There is a difference between the one group who blows things up and stockpiles nuclear weapons and the other who are trying to be heard that they do not want nuclear weapons.

one is not sorry that it causes disruption and that it costs tax payers money and doesn't care that the majority of the planet doesn't want nuclear weapons and the other is sorry that they have to protest about this stupid behaviour in the first place. :)
[quote][p][bold]Practicing Pragmatist[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sheep'n'wellies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlin44[/bold] wrote: One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.[/p][/quote]So the summit is not disruptive? And who is paying for the extra policing and that pathetic fencing?Us the taxpayers of course[/p][/quote]So your answer is - because NATO is costing tax payers money it doesn't matter that protesters are also costing tax payers money? Like many of the statements and manifestos set out by the various protest groups I have read, this is hypocritical and doesn't make a great deal of sense.[/p][/quote]There is a difference between the one group who blows things up and stockpiles nuclear weapons and the other who are trying to be heard that they do not want nuclear weapons. one is not sorry that it causes disruption and that it costs tax payers money and doesn't care that the majority of the planet doesn't want nuclear weapons and the other is sorry that they have to protest about this stupid behaviour in the first place. :) Dave634872647
  • Score: -6

11:02pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Gareth says...

Dear peace marchers,

You know when you travel around getting slated for sticking up for your passionate beliefs... have you ever come across a city that has a higher percentage of whingers who have such a poor command of English spelling, grammar and punctuation?

I mean Ihave to live with it every day, but i was interested in an external, third-person perspective.
Dear peace marchers, You know when you travel around getting slated for sticking up for your passionate beliefs... have you ever come across a city that has a higher percentage of whingers who have such a poor command of English spelling, grammar and punctuation? I mean Ihave to live with it every day, but i was interested in an external, third-person perspective. Gareth
  • Score: 5

11:12pm Fri 29 Aug 14

comeontheport says...

I would suggest to DavidMclean that he speak for his own forefather. mine fought for 'freedom and honor' not for a bunch of ill - informed greebos to **** up a park paid for by local taxpayers and otherwise enjoyed by the local community. My grandfather was not a racist who thought it was ok to slag off another culture but hey, Israelis are not black so you can call them any name you like, cant you?
I would suggest to DavidMclean that he speak for his own forefather. mine fought for 'freedom and honor' not for a bunch of ill - informed greebos to **** up a park paid for by local taxpayers and otherwise enjoyed by the local community. My grandfather was not a racist who thought it was ok to slag off another culture but hey, Israelis are not black so you can call them any name you like, cant you? comeontheport
  • Score: 7

11:24pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Dave634872647 says...

b3talover wrote:
I find it ironic that the very organisation they are protesting against helps to safeguard their right to protest.
as a british person, i think that is actually british law that safeguards their right to protest. nato is not doing that for us.
[quote][p][bold]b3talover[/bold] wrote: I find it ironic that the very organisation they are protesting against helps to safeguard their right to protest.[/p][/quote]as a british person, i think that is actually british law that safeguards their right to protest. nato is not doing that for us. Dave634872647
  • Score: 6

11:32pm Fri 29 Aug 14

comeontheport says...

Dave634872647 - true, true.
Dave634872647 - true, true. comeontheport
  • Score: 0

11:40pm Fri 29 Aug 14

DGee123 says...

Mongino wrote:
golfer wrote:
Get a job they need to and then employer sack them for time off
Who are you, Yoda?
Why so many downvotes? Funny, I thought it was.
[quote][p][bold]Mongino[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]golfer[/bold] wrote: Get a job they need to and then employer sack them for time off[/p][/quote]Who are you, Yoda?[/p][/quote]Why so many downvotes? Funny, I thought it was. DGee123
  • Score: 11

11:58pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Frankfurt says...

Foreigners in the Pen and Wig tonight. Ordering vegetable curry.
Foreigners in the Pen and Wig tonight. Ordering vegetable curry. Frankfurt
  • Score: 3

12:02am Sat 30 Aug 14

artsfan says...

merlin44 wrote:
One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.
Many of the organisers dug deep into their own pockets to pay towards the camp. YOU are not providing them with anything, although the council has put the toilets there. The taxpayer is, however paying over £50,000,000 to protect 160 people. On top of that, hotel bills, transport, banquets and champagne. The NATO Summit is the cause of the disruption. If that wasn't here, then the protestors wouldn't be either.
[quote][p][bold]merlin44[/bold] wrote: One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.[/p][/quote]Many of the organisers dug deep into their own pockets to pay towards the camp. YOU are not providing them with anything, although the council has put the toilets there. The taxpayer is, however paying over £50,000,000 to protect 160 people. On top of that, hotel bills, transport, banquets and champagne. The NATO Summit is the cause of the disruption. If that wasn't here, then the protestors wouldn't be either. artsfan
  • Score: 0

12:06am Sat 30 Aug 14

artsfan says...

angry_man wrote:
I think my screen name is most appropriate here, why on earth did they pitch the tents on the play area, and not on the grass, like a normal camper would?

Just seeing that image of the 3 tents on the children's play area is making me angrier and angrier.
Calm down Mr Angry!! It's a disused paddling pool area, that's been fenced off for a few years. Equipment was delivered on thursday evening, so a few people stayed in that area for the night to look after the equipment until it could be moved into the marquees. That area is being part-covered in order to be used for planned events, not for tents to be pitched on.
[quote][p][bold]angry_man[/bold] wrote: I think my screen name is most appropriate here, why on earth did they pitch the tents on the play area, and not on the grass, like a normal camper would? Just seeing that image of the 3 tents on the children's play area is making me angrier and angrier.[/p][/quote]Calm down Mr Angry!! It's a disused paddling pool area, that's been fenced off for a few years. Equipment was delivered on thursday evening, so a few people stayed in that area for the night to look after the equipment until it could be moved into the marquees. That area is being part-covered in order to be used for planned events, not for tents to be pitched on. artsfan
  • Score: 6

1:06am Sat 30 Aug 14

JonathanJonathan says...

b3talover wrote:
I find it ironic that the very organisation they are protesting against helps to safeguard their right to protest.
Nato are not safeguarding the protesters... NCC are providing space so are gwent police with secuiity to allow for situations that can be monitored.
[quote][p][bold]b3talover[/bold] wrote: I find it ironic that the very organisation they are protesting against helps to safeguard their right to protest.[/p][/quote]Nato are not safeguarding the protesters... NCC are providing space so are gwent police with secuiity to allow for situations that can be monitored. JonathanJonathan
  • Score: 4

1:07am Sat 30 Aug 14

JonathanJonathan says...

merlin44 wrote:
One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.
Otherwise protesters will poo in holes in the ground and cook with open fires.
[quote][p][bold]merlin44[/bold] wrote: One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.[/p][/quote]Otherwise protesters will poo in holes in the ground and cook with open fires. JonathanJonathan
  • Score: 5

1:08am Sat 30 Aug 14

JonathanJonathan says...

kez1968 wrote:
Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.
That wouldn't be a protest would it?
[quote][p][bold]kez1968[/bold] wrote: Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.[/p][/quote]That wouldn't be a protest would it? JonathanJonathan
  • Score: 2

1:14am Sat 30 Aug 14

JonathanJonathan says...

kez1968 wrote:
Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.
Threat levels are up because war mongering men from around the globe are in town. Newport is a target because of them. Dont forget this. The same men that spend billions on war while their own people suffer. Afghanistan has cost the uk government £30 billion thats almost £2000 per household... For what reason? Makes me sad.
[quote][p][bold]kez1968[/bold] wrote: Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.[/p][/quote]Threat levels are up because war mongering men from around the globe are in town. Newport is a target because of them. Dont forget this. The same men that spend billions on war while their own people suffer. Afghanistan has cost the uk government £30 billion thats almost £2000 per household... For what reason? Makes me sad. JonathanJonathan
  • Score: -1

8:19am Sat 30 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

JonathanJonathan wrote:
kez1968 wrote:
Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.
That wouldn't be a protest would it?
Or do you think that Russian weapons or those held by the tea-towel states are less worrysome?
[quote][p][bold]JonathanJonathan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kez1968[/bold] wrote: Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.[/p][/quote]That wouldn't be a protest would it?[/p][/quote]Or do you think that Russian weapons or those held by the tea-towel states are less worrysome? Stevenboy
  • Score: 2

8:38am Sat 30 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

anigel wrote:
When you bring your "peaceful protest" and disrupt the lives of other people who are desperately trying to earn a living to support their families and to go about their every day lives then you lose all respect from me.

Go back home and protest in your own high street in your own place of work and screw up your own lives instead of ours.
So, by your own definitions, regarding disruption of workers, you must be the most anti-Nato person on here right?
[quote][p][bold]anigel[/bold] wrote: When you bring your "peaceful protest" and disrupt the lives of other people who are desperately trying to earn a living to support their families and to go about their every day lives then you lose all respect from me. Go back home and protest in your own high street in your own place of work and screw up your own lives instead of ours.[/p][/quote]So, by your own definitions, regarding disruption of workers, you must be the most anti-Nato person on here right? EyeOnWales
  • Score: -4

8:45am Sat 30 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

Frankfurt wrote:
Foreigners in the Pen and Wig tonight. Ordering vegetable curry.
By that, you mean protesters right? Interesting observations, because presumably these terribly disruptive people are actually contributing to the local economy by buying a meal in a local pub? Keep an eye out for the Nato representatives popping into the market to see if they do the same...but don't hold your breath.
[quote][p][bold]Frankfurt[/bold] wrote: Foreigners in the Pen and Wig tonight. Ordering vegetable curry.[/p][/quote]By that, you mean protesters right? Interesting observations, because presumably these terribly disruptive people are actually contributing to the local economy by buying a meal in a local pub? Keep an eye out for the Nato representatives popping into the market to see if they do the same...but don't hold your breath. EyeOnWales
  • Score: 0

8:53am Sat 30 Aug 14

Charlie1501 says...

If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!? Charlie1501
  • Score: 5

9:01am Sat 30 Aug 14

33daverave says...

Charlie1501 wrote:
If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
Weekend off ?
[quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?[/p][/quote]Weekend off ? 33daverave
  • Score: 5

9:12am Sat 30 Aug 14

Charlie1501 says...

33daverave wrote:
Charlie1501 wrote:
If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
Weekend off ?
Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee
eeee"....
[quote][p][bold]33daverave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?[/p][/quote]Weekend off ?[/p][/quote]Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee eeee".... Charlie1501
  • Score: 6

9:22am Sat 30 Aug 14

Heinz Kiosk says...

artsfan wrote:
merlin44 wrote:
One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.
Many of the organisers dug deep into their own pockets to pay towards the camp. YOU are not providing them with anything, although the council has put the toilets there. The taxpayer is, however paying over £50,000,000 to protect 160 people. On top of that, hotel bills, transport, banquets and champagne. The NATO Summit is the cause of the disruption. If that wasn't here, then the protestors wouldn't be either.
So true. If NATO wasn't here there'd be a statue of Lenin in Tredegar Park and woe-betide you Arts strop if your staffie wee'd on it. Come to think you'd not be allowed to protest against the rulers either or you'd become a non-person like most of the General Staff of the Red Army '36-39
And I guess the "protesters" except the old crusties like the one named after tinned beans would be in the Red Army still giving the Afghans what ho.
[quote][p][bold]artsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]merlin44[/bold] wrote: One question Who is footing the bill to provide them with this camp including Kitchens, washing & toilet facilities and why do we have to provide them with all the comforts of home when all they are doing is disrupting our local town.[/p][/quote]Many of the organisers dug deep into their own pockets to pay towards the camp. YOU are not providing them with anything, although the council has put the toilets there. The taxpayer is, however paying over £50,000,000 to protect 160 people. On top of that, hotel bills, transport, banquets and champagne. The NATO Summit is the cause of the disruption. If that wasn't here, then the protestors wouldn't be either.[/p][/quote]So true. If NATO wasn't here there'd be a statue of Lenin in Tredegar Park and woe-betide you Arts strop if your staffie wee'd on it. Come to think you'd not be allowed to protest against the rulers either or you'd become a non-person like most of the General Staff of the Red Army '36-39 And I guess the "protesters" except the old crusties like the one named after tinned beans would be in the Red Army still giving the Afghans what ho. Heinz Kiosk
  • Score: 4

9:27am Sat 30 Aug 14

ex-St. Julians boy says...

This is probably the most excitement Newport's ever had. I'm not at all sure that you're ready for it.
This is probably the most excitement Newport's ever had. I'm not at all sure that you're ready for it. ex-St. Julians boy
  • Score: 6

10:03am Sat 30 Aug 14

Mervyn James says...

Charlie1501 wrote:
33daverave wrote:
Charlie1501 wrote:
If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
Weekend off ?
Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee

eeee"....
It's disconcerting the flippancy by which some here poke fun at a gathering dedicated to the peaceful process. Time they are a changing, to use an old term, they aren't all drug-fuelled hippies and flower power, but life-long and dedicated people who believe in peace and fairness. The peace message may be boring and inconvenient to some, but poking fun at how they are dressed etc just raising concern on what sort of society exists in the UK any more. Well, we know what sort it is, a divided prejudice-ridden, and hateful population who think old people are living too long, young people are bone idle and live on drugs, and sick and disabled are nothing more than lead-swinging benefit scroungers. Let us not forget the message is about , peace in our lives, a future for our children. Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message.
[quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]33daverave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?[/p][/quote]Weekend off ?[/p][/quote]Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee eeee"....[/p][/quote]It's disconcerting the flippancy by which some here poke fun at a gathering dedicated to the peaceful process. Time they are a changing, to use an old term, they aren't all drug-fuelled hippies and flower power, but life-long and dedicated people who believe in peace and fairness. The peace message may be boring and inconvenient to some, but poking fun at how they are dressed etc just raising concern on what sort of society exists in the UK any more. Well, we know what sort it is, a divided prejudice-ridden, and hateful population who think old people are living too long, young people are bone idle and live on drugs, and sick and disabled are nothing more than lead-swinging benefit scroungers. Let us not forget the message is about , peace in our lives, a future for our children. Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message. Mervyn James
  • Score: -5

10:03am Sat 30 Aug 14

smartie40 says...

What a load of Twaddle.. There Ancestors fought and died in both wars to keep this country and give people the freedom that they have without these armies bombs etc they wouldn't be here ludicrous!!!
What a load of Twaddle.. There Ancestors fought and died in both wars to keep this country and give people the freedom that they have without these armies bombs etc they wouldn't be here ludicrous!!! smartie40
  • Score: 0

10:44am Sat 30 Aug 14

Charlie1501 says...

Mervyn James wrote:
Charlie1501 wrote:
33daverave wrote:
Charlie1501 wrote:
If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
Weekend off ?
Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee


eeee"....
It's disconcerting the flippancy by which some here poke fun at a gathering dedicated to the peaceful process. Time they are a changing, to use an old term, they aren't all drug-fuelled hippies and flower power, but life-long and dedicated people who believe in peace and fairness. The peace message may be boring and inconvenient to some, but poking fun at how they are dressed etc just raising concern on what sort of society exists in the UK any more. Well, we know what sort it is, a divided prejudice-ridden, and hateful population who think old people are living too long, young people are bone idle and live on drugs, and sick and disabled are nothing more than lead-swinging benefit scroungers. Let us not forget the message is about , peace in our lives, a future for our children. Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message.
I'll remind you of THIS statement once the summit is over. What are you actually going to change?...What do you think you could possibly change?...lets be honest...sure its fine to protest, its your right to do so....but PEACEFULLY...and do NOT judge my comments just because they were light humoured...kinda pillboxes YOU into the thinking that everyone is against you.....
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]33daverave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?[/p][/quote]Weekend off ?[/p][/quote]Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee eeee"....[/p][/quote]It's disconcerting the flippancy by which some here poke fun at a gathering dedicated to the peaceful process. Time they are a changing, to use an old term, they aren't all drug-fuelled hippies and flower power, but life-long and dedicated people who believe in peace and fairness. The peace message may be boring and inconvenient to some, but poking fun at how they are dressed etc just raising concern on what sort of society exists in the UK any more. Well, we know what sort it is, a divided prejudice-ridden, and hateful population who think old people are living too long, young people are bone idle and live on drugs, and sick and disabled are nothing more than lead-swinging benefit scroungers. Let us not forget the message is about , peace in our lives, a future for our children. Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message.[/p][/quote]I'll remind you of THIS statement once the summit is over. What are you actually going to change?...What do you think you could possibly change?...lets be honest...sure its fine to protest, its your right to do so....but PEACEFULLY...and do NOT judge my comments just because they were light humoured...kinda pillboxes YOU into the thinking that everyone is against you..... Charlie1501
  • Score: 4

12:01pm Sat 30 Aug 14

33daverave says...

There won't be a nut cutlet or lentil left in Newport by the end of the week.

Then it's back to reality and their life in suburbia .
There won't be a nut cutlet or lentil left in Newport by the end of the week. Then it's back to reality and their life in suburbia . 33daverave
  • Score: -2

12:26pm Sat 30 Aug 14

EyeOnWales says...

smartie40 wrote:
What a load of Twaddle.. There Ancestors fought and died in both wars to keep this country and give people the freedom that they have without these armies bombs etc they wouldn't be here ludicrous!!!
I think one of the main concerns is that it has not been just the two wars now has it? There have actually been a shed load of wars in recent years, many ongoing, into which Nato has dived, and on occasion, played its part in triggering.

The notion that having 'these armies bombs', as you put it, plays any role in ensuring the safety of this nation, is the real twaddle. Did you notice the good ol' 'terror alert' being cranked up the other day. We become targets because of organisations like Nato, and 'our' bombs will do little to change that.
[quote][p][bold]smartie40[/bold] wrote: What a load of Twaddle.. There Ancestors fought and died in both wars to keep this country and give people the freedom that they have without these armies bombs etc they wouldn't be here ludicrous!!![/p][/quote]I think one of the main concerns is that it has not been just the two wars now has it? There have actually been a shed load of wars in recent years, many ongoing, into which Nato has dived, and on occasion, played its part in triggering. The notion that having 'these armies bombs', as you put it, plays any role in ensuring the safety of this nation, is the real twaddle. Did you notice the good ol' 'terror alert' being cranked up the other day. We become targets because of organisations like Nato, and 'our' bombs will do little to change that. EyeOnWales
  • Score: -4

12:26pm Sat 30 Aug 14

artsfan says...

Mervyn James wrote:
Charlie1501 wrote:
33daverave wrote:
Charlie1501 wrote:
If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
Weekend off ?
Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee


eeee"....
It's disconcerting the flippancy by which some here poke fun at a gathering dedicated to the peaceful process. Time they are a changing, to use an old term, they aren't all drug-fuelled hippies and flower power, but life-long and dedicated people who believe in peace and fairness. The peace message may be boring and inconvenient to some, but poking fun at how they are dressed etc just raising concern on what sort of society exists in the UK any more. Well, we know what sort it is, a divided prejudice-ridden, and hateful population who think old people are living too long, young people are bone idle and live on drugs, and sick and disabled are nothing more than lead-swinging benefit scroungers. Let us not forget the message is about , peace in our lives, a future for our children. Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message.
So true. Well said.
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]33daverave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?[/p][/quote]Weekend off ?[/p][/quote]Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee eeee"....[/p][/quote]It's disconcerting the flippancy by which some here poke fun at a gathering dedicated to the peaceful process. Time they are a changing, to use an old term, they aren't all drug-fuelled hippies and flower power, but life-long and dedicated people who believe in peace and fairness. The peace message may be boring and inconvenient to some, but poking fun at how they are dressed etc just raising concern on what sort of society exists in the UK any more. Well, we know what sort it is, a divided prejudice-ridden, and hateful population who think old people are living too long, young people are bone idle and live on drugs, and sick and disabled are nothing more than lead-swinging benefit scroungers. Let us not forget the message is about , peace in our lives, a future for our children. Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message.[/p][/quote]So true. Well said. artsfan
  • Score: -2

12:39pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Mr Miffed says...

artsfan wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
Charlie1501 wrote:
33daverave wrote:
Charlie1501 wrote:
If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
Weekend off ?
Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee



eeee"....
It's disconcerting the flippancy by which some here poke fun at a gathering dedicated to the peaceful process. Time they are a changing, to use an old term, they aren't all drug-fuelled hippies and flower power, but life-long and dedicated people who believe in peace and fairness. The peace message may be boring and inconvenient to some, but poking fun at how they are dressed etc just raising concern on what sort of society exists in the UK any more. Well, we know what sort it is, a divided prejudice-ridden, and hateful population who think old people are living too long, young people are bone idle and live on drugs, and sick and disabled are nothing more than lead-swinging benefit scroungers. Let us not forget the message is about , peace in our lives, a future for our children. Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message.
So true. Well said.
I thought the post utter tripe. For a start, the protesters never mention the other weapons pushers like Russia and China who have no scruples at all, and whilst some protesters may be well meaning, if naive, you only have to look at recent 'protests' to see that 'peace' was never on the agenda. A quick look at the conference in Chicago is a good start. Add to that the fact that these 'protests' only ever disrupt or blight the lives of the powerless while leaving the object of their venom entirely untouched and I'm reminded of the saying 'there's no fool like an old fool'. Peace will only ever be a reality when everyone signs on to it. Do you see that happening? Ever? Really? I thought not. So the might of our defence is the only, admittedly imperfect option.
[quote][p][bold]artsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]33daverave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?[/p][/quote]Weekend off ?[/p][/quote]Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee eeee"....[/p][/quote]It's disconcerting the flippancy by which some here poke fun at a gathering dedicated to the peaceful process. Time they are a changing, to use an old term, they aren't all drug-fuelled hippies and flower power, but life-long and dedicated people who believe in peace and fairness. The peace message may be boring and inconvenient to some, but poking fun at how they are dressed etc just raising concern on what sort of society exists in the UK any more. Well, we know what sort it is, a divided prejudice-ridden, and hateful population who think old people are living too long, young people are bone idle and live on drugs, and sick and disabled are nothing more than lead-swinging benefit scroungers. Let us not forget the message is about , peace in our lives, a future for our children. Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message.[/p][/quote]So true. Well said.[/p][/quote]I thought the post utter tripe. For a start, the protesters never mention the other weapons pushers like Russia and China who have no scruples at all, and whilst some protesters may be well meaning, if naive, you only have to look at recent 'protests' to see that 'peace' was never on the agenda. A quick look at the conference in Chicago is a good start. Add to that the fact that these 'protests' only ever disrupt or blight the lives of the powerless while leaving the object of their venom entirely untouched and I'm reminded of the saying 'there's no fool like an old fool'. Peace will only ever be a reality when everyone signs on to it. Do you see that happening? Ever? Really? I thought not. So the might of our defence is the only, admittedly imperfect option. Mr Miffed
  • Score: 3

12:59pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Sheep'n'wellies says...

Frankfurt wrote:
Foreigners in the Pen and Wig tonight. Ordering vegetable curry.
That's normal Newport is full ov them
[quote][p][bold]Frankfurt[/bold] wrote: Foreigners in the Pen and Wig tonight. Ordering vegetable curry.[/p][/quote]That's normal Newport is full ov them Sheep'n'wellies
  • Score: -1

1:25pm Sat 30 Aug 14

Stevenboy says...

33daverave wrote:
There won't be a nut cutlet or lentil left in Newport by the end of the week.

Then it's back to reality and their life in suburbia .
You can tell your grand kids you lived through the NATO conference and great mung bean shortage of 2014.
[quote][p][bold]33daverave[/bold] wrote: There won't be a nut cutlet or lentil left in Newport by the end of the week. Then it's back to reality and their life in suburbia .[/p][/quote]You can tell your grand kids you lived through the NATO conference and great mung bean shortage of 2014. Stevenboy
  • Score: 1

4:36pm Sat 30 Aug 14

GogExile says...

Mr Miffed wrote:
artsfan wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
Charlie1501 wrote:
33daverave wrote:
Charlie1501 wrote:
If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
Weekend off ?
Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee




eeee"....
It's disconcerting the flippancy by which some here poke fun at a gathering dedicated to the peaceful process. Time they are a changing, to use an old term, they aren't all drug-fuelled hippies and flower power, but life-long and dedicated people who believe in peace and fairness. The peace message may be boring and inconvenient to some, but poking fun at how they are dressed etc just raising concern on what sort of society exists in the UK any more. Well, we know what sort it is, a divided prejudice-ridden, and hateful population who think old people are living too long, young people are bone idle and live on drugs, and sick and disabled are nothing more than lead-swinging benefit scroungers. Let us not forget the message is about , peace in our lives, a future for our children. Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message.
So true. Well said.
I thought the post utter tripe. For a start, the protesters never mention the other weapons pushers like Russia and China who have no scruples at all, and whilst some protesters may be well meaning, if naive, you only have to look at recent 'protests' to see that 'peace' was never on the agenda. A quick look at the conference in Chicago is a good start. Add to that the fact that these 'protests' only ever disrupt or blight the lives of the powerless while leaving the object of their venom entirely untouched and I'm reminded of the saying 'there's no fool like an old fool'. Peace will only ever be a reality when everyone signs on to it. Do you see that happening? Ever? Really? I thought not. So the might of our defence is the only, admittedly imperfect option.
Touche
[quote][p][bold]Mr Miffed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]artsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]33daverave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?[/p][/quote]Weekend off ?[/p][/quote]Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee eeee"....[/p][/quote]It's disconcerting the flippancy by which some here poke fun at a gathering dedicated to the peaceful process. Time they are a changing, to use an old term, they aren't all drug-fuelled hippies and flower power, but life-long and dedicated people who believe in peace and fairness. The peace message may be boring and inconvenient to some, but poking fun at how they are dressed etc just raising concern on what sort of society exists in the UK any more. Well, we know what sort it is, a divided prejudice-ridden, and hateful population who think old people are living too long, young people are bone idle and live on drugs, and sick and disabled are nothing more than lead-swinging benefit scroungers. Let us not forget the message is about , peace in our lives, a future for our children. Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message.[/p][/quote]So true. Well said.[/p][/quote]I thought the post utter tripe. For a start, the protesters never mention the other weapons pushers like Russia and China who have no scruples at all, and whilst some protesters may be well meaning, if naive, you only have to look at recent 'protests' to see that 'peace' was never on the agenda. A quick look at the conference in Chicago is a good start. Add to that the fact that these 'protests' only ever disrupt or blight the lives of the powerless while leaving the object of their venom entirely untouched and I'm reminded of the saying 'there's no fool like an old fool'. Peace will only ever be a reality when everyone signs on to it. Do you see that happening? Ever? Really? I thought not. So the might of our defence is the only, admittedly imperfect option.[/p][/quote]Touche GogExile
  • Score: 2

6:38pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

Jonnytrouble wrote:
Could be fun days from tomorrow !
Cops ( English ) ready for a bit of ' Welsh bashing ' as per the miners strike.( source from miners I new )
Always the ones that want some enjoyment to ease ' bore dome ' !
Then then you have ' one protester ' that wants to test the cops followed by OTHER protesters ( plant a bad mob ) back up and
HEY HO fun time !
Keep well away if YOU don't want to be labelled as the ' trouble maker ' and get ' accidently caught up with the ' so called peaceful protesters ' EH !
AND
to add who the hell allowed them to camp in Tredegar park ?
What about those Newport Council taxpayers that want to go there but afraid to as there could be trouble ahead ?
NATO,i can't wait till you bugger off as im fed up of the hell birds coming and going over my house !
FINALLY
THE WINNER is .....Mr T M and his family WHO must loving it ,profit,profit,profi

t, rubbing his hands and laughing at us poor mortals putting up with this crap !
Very intelligent comment.
Sums up my fellow Welsh compatriots.
Envious of anyone that gets on in life and can't make it themselves.
[quote][p][bold]Jonnytrouble[/bold] wrote: Could be fun days from tomorrow ! Cops ( English ) ready for a bit of ' Welsh bashing ' as per the miners strike.( source from miners I new ) Always the ones that want some enjoyment to ease ' bore dome ' ! Then then you have ' one protester ' that wants to test the cops followed by OTHER protesters ( plant a bad mob ) back up and HEY HO fun time ! Keep well away if YOU don't want to be labelled as the ' trouble maker ' and get ' accidently caught up with the ' so called peaceful protesters ' EH ! AND to add who the hell allowed them to camp in Tredegar park ? What about those Newport Council taxpayers that want to go there but afraid to as there could be trouble ahead ? NATO,i can't wait till you bugger off as im fed up of the hell birds coming and going over my house ! FINALLY THE WINNER is .....Mr T M and his family WHO must loving it ,profit,profit,profi t, rubbing his hands and laughing at us poor mortals putting up with this crap ![/p][/quote]Very intelligent comment. Sums up my fellow Welsh compatriots. Envious of anyone that gets on in life and can't make it themselves. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 2

6:46pm Sun 31 Aug 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

EyeOnWales wrote:
smartie40 wrote:
What a load of Twaddle.. There Ancestors fought and died in both wars to keep this country and give people the freedom that they have without these armies bombs etc they wouldn't be here ludicrous!!!
I think one of the main concerns is that it has not been just the two wars now has it? There have actually been a shed load of wars in recent years, many ongoing, into which Nato has dived, and on occasion, played its part in triggering.

The notion that having 'these armies bombs', as you put it, plays any role in ensuring the safety of this nation, is the real twaddle. Did you notice the good ol' 'terror alert' being cranked up the other day. We become targets because of organisations like Nato, and 'our' bombs will do little to change that.
We become targets because we fight against religious extremists, who given the chance would not think twice about blowing us all up.
Pacifism is not an option.
[quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smartie40[/bold] wrote: What a load of Twaddle.. There Ancestors fought and died in both wars to keep this country and give people the freedom that they have without these armies bombs etc they wouldn't be here ludicrous!!![/p][/quote]I think one of the main concerns is that it has not been just the two wars now has it? There have actually been a shed load of wars in recent years, many ongoing, into which Nato has dived, and on occasion, played its part in triggering. The notion that having 'these armies bombs', as you put it, plays any role in ensuring the safety of this nation, is the real twaddle. Did you notice the good ol' 'terror alert' being cranked up the other day. We become targets because of organisations like Nato, and 'our' bombs will do little to change that.[/p][/quote]We become targets because we fight against religious extremists, who given the chance would not think twice about blowing us all up. Pacifism is not an option. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 1

8:51pm Sun 31 Aug 14

displayed says...

"Three tents have been put up in the now-closed splash pool area at the park."

Just wait until it rains, the protesters will soon be pooling their resorces!
"Three tents have been put up in the now-closed splash pool area at the park." Just wait until it rains, the protesters will soon be pooling their resorces! displayed
  • Score: 1

12:52pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Mr.Jolly. says...

£50m for Obama Bin Larginit to have a round of golf up the Celtic Carbuncle BWAHAHAHA!
£50m for Obama Bin Larginit to have a round of golf up the Celtic Carbuncle BWAHAHAHA! Mr.Jolly.
  • Score: -1

1:00pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Good Job No Kids says...

JonathanJonathan wrote:
kez1968 wrote:
Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.
Threat levels are up because war mongering men from around the globe are in town. Newport is a target because of them. Dont forget this. The same men that spend billions on war while their own people suffer. Afghanistan has cost the uk government £30 billion thats almost £2000 per household... For what reason? Makes me sad.
An exceptionally good reason to never vote for labour again, but you probably will.
[quote][p][bold]JonathanJonathan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kez1968[/bold] wrote: Why don't these peace activists set up camp in northern Iraq or eastern Ukraine I'm sure the locals will welcome them with open arms.[/p][/quote]Threat levels are up because war mongering men from around the globe are in town. Newport is a target because of them. Dont forget this. The same men that spend billions on war while their own people suffer. Afghanistan has cost the uk government £30 billion thats almost £2000 per household... For what reason? Makes me sad.[/p][/quote]An exceptionally good reason to never vote for labour again, but you probably will. Good Job No Kids
  • Score: 0

1:06pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Good Job No Kids says...

Mervyn James wrote:
Charlie1501 wrote:
33daverave wrote:
Charlie1501 wrote:
If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
Weekend off ?
Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee


eeee"....
It's disconcerting the flippancy by which some here poke fun at a gathering dedicated to the peaceful process. Time they are a changing, to use an old term, they aren't all drug-fuelled hippies and flower power, but life-long and dedicated people who believe in peace and fairness. The peace message may be boring and inconvenient to some, but poking fun at how they are dressed etc just raising concern on what sort of society exists in the UK any more. Well, we know what sort it is, a divided prejudice-ridden, and hateful population who think old people are living too long, young people are bone idle and live on drugs, and sick and disabled are nothing more than lead-swinging benefit scroungers. Let us not forget the message is about , peace in our lives, a future for our children. Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message.
"Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message"

Yes it does,

I would bet most people would be more willing to listen to someone clean shaven and smartly dressed than someone who looks homeless with cornflakes and crumbs stuck in their beard.

If someone can't master personal hygiene their views are likely to be bias and misinformed.
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]33daverave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?[/p][/quote]Weekend off ?[/p][/quote]Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee eeee"....[/p][/quote]It's disconcerting the flippancy by which some here poke fun at a gathering dedicated to the peaceful process. Time they are a changing, to use an old term, they aren't all drug-fuelled hippies and flower power, but life-long and dedicated people who believe in peace and fairness. The peace message may be boring and inconvenient to some, but poking fun at how they are dressed etc just raising concern on what sort of society exists in the UK any more. Well, we know what sort it is, a divided prejudice-ridden, and hateful population who think old people are living too long, young people are bone idle and live on drugs, and sick and disabled are nothing more than lead-swinging benefit scroungers. Let us not forget the message is about , peace in our lives, a future for our children. Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message.[/p][/quote]"Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message" Yes it does, I would bet most people would be more willing to listen to someone clean shaven and smartly dressed than someone who looks homeless with cornflakes and crumbs stuck in their beard. If someone can't master personal hygiene their views are likely to be bias and misinformed. Good Job No Kids
  • Score: 1

9:11am Wed 3 Sep 14

JanJenkins says...

fitbird wrote:
Are the protesters paying to camp ? Maybe if they were to pay per person per night the council could afford to repair the childrens splash area to reopen !
These Protesters were asked to respect our Town, But are not are they are they. Claiming the council hasn't kept the pool in repair in Tredegar Park so its ok to camp on the kids playground is pathetic.
But these clowns are missing our poin, t it is OUR elected council looking after OUR town, with the limited funds We have, You are unwanted visitors, abusing our Communal Property.
Pay for your amenities, clean up after yourselves, and then leave.
The Country's Police that are in Newport are Ok. They don't want to be here, they would rather go home to their families at the end of their working day , not have put up with abuse from you lot.
[quote][p][bold]fitbird[/bold] wrote: Are the protesters paying to camp ? Maybe if they were to pay per person per night the council could afford to repair the childrens splash area to reopen ![/p][/quote]These Protesters were asked to respect our Town, But are not are they are they. Claiming the council hasn't kept the pool in repair in Tredegar Park so its ok to camp on the kids playground is pathetic. But these clowns are missing our poin, t it is OUR elected council looking after OUR town, with the limited funds We have, You are unwanted visitors, abusing our Communal Property. Pay for your amenities, clean up after yourselves, and then leave. The Country's Police that are in Newport are Ok. They don't want to be here, they would rather go home to their families at the end of their working day , not have put up with abuse from you lot. JanJenkins
  • Score: 1

9:43am Wed 3 Sep 14

JanJenkins says...

displayed wrote:
Welcome to chaos, control and manipultation thats now invading Newport City.
Not to mention the police state experiment in crowd control and the kettling needed!
So will the last one to leave, please switch out the lites...............
The Police don't want to be here, they would rather be in their own areas going home to their own families at the end of the day. They are Ok if your ok towards them. They don't need the hassle from protesters.
[quote][p][bold]displayed[/bold] wrote: Welcome to chaos, control and manipultation thats now invading Newport City. Not to mention the police state experiment in crowd control and the kettling needed! So will the last one to leave, please switch out the lites...............[/p][/quote]The Police don't want to be here, they would rather be in their own areas going home to their own families at the end of the day. They are Ok if your ok towards them. They don't need the hassle from protesters. JanJenkins
  • Score: 3

8:29pm Wed 3 Sep 14

Mervyn James says...

Katie Re-Registered wrote:
It must be desperately frustrating for the pro-'freedom for Palestine' contingent that Israel is not, has never been and is hardly ever likely to be a part of the entity known as the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation. Then again, maybe they view Israel not joining NATO as just another 'sneaky Zionist trick' really, something not done deliberately to make them look silly on purpose when protesting about a completely unrelated issue at a 'No to NATO' demonstration...?!
No-one who counts is at the NATO meeting, Russia, Israel, China etc the people WITH the real power, the people we need to get talking to, (It isn't just the USA has a few missiles to throw about), If NATO invited the real movers and shakers and sat down and talked and not a rag tag and bobtail of frightened small states, dominated by the yanks, we might get somewhere. I cannot imagine ISIS/Hamas or Al Queda being able to stand up to a world army of these major powers. A world unity against them would settle it. I think the photo os tanks and jest for sale on Celtic Manor golf course was truly deplorable and works against NATO, we don't want people arming more idiots thanks. And that includes Israel !
[quote][p][bold]Katie Re-Registered[/bold] wrote: It must be desperately frustrating for the pro-'freedom for Palestine' contingent that Israel is not, has never been and is hardly ever likely to be a part of the entity known as the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation. Then again, maybe they view Israel not joining NATO as just another 'sneaky Zionist trick' really, something not done deliberately to make them look silly on purpose when protesting about a completely unrelated issue at a 'No to NATO' demonstration...?![/p][/quote]No-one who counts is at the NATO meeting, Russia, Israel, China etc the people WITH the real power, the people we need to get talking to, (It isn't just the USA has a few missiles to throw about), If NATO invited the real movers and shakers and sat down and talked and not a rag tag and bobtail of frightened small states, dominated by the yanks, we might get somewhere. I cannot imagine ISIS/Hamas or Al Queda being able to stand up to a world army of these major powers. A world unity against them would settle it. I think the photo os tanks and jest for sale on Celtic Manor golf course was truly deplorable and works against NATO, we don't want people arming more idiots thanks. And that includes Israel ! Mervyn James
  • Score: 1

6:35pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Mervyn James says...

Good Job No Kids wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
Charlie1501 wrote:
33daverave wrote:
Charlie1501 wrote:
If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?
Weekend off ?
Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee



eeee"....
It's disconcerting the flippancy by which some here poke fun at a gathering dedicated to the peaceful process. Time they are a changing, to use an old term, they aren't all drug-fuelled hippies and flower power, but life-long and dedicated people who believe in peace and fairness. The peace message may be boring and inconvenient to some, but poking fun at how they are dressed etc just raising concern on what sort of society exists in the UK any more. Well, we know what sort it is, a divided prejudice-ridden, and hateful population who think old people are living too long, young people are bone idle and live on drugs, and sick and disabled are nothing more than lead-swinging benefit scroungers. Let us not forget the message is about , peace in our lives, a future for our children. Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message.
"Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message"

Yes it does,

I would bet most people would be more willing to listen to someone clean shaven and smartly dressed than someone who looks homeless with cornflakes and crumbs stuck in their beard.

If someone can't master personal hygiene their views are likely to be bias and misinformed.
You don't judge a book by its cover, but by the quality of what is inside, thus should opinion be based on that. You cannot seriously tell me because Obama and Cameron wear a suit and tie, their approaches and views are better ? Blair was a snappy dresser too, he took us to Iraq on the basis of reading a blog from some student in the middle east, in disregard to our own intelligence data. He now advises despots how to project an image as fathers of their people... Our other snappy dressers took us into Libya to remove one despot,and left the country in chaos,which even now is riddled in civil war. PR people could project Hitler as a saint... seeing is believing ? erm maybe not !
[quote][p][bold]Good Job No Kids[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]33daverave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Charlie1501[/bold] wrote: If this is a live update how come it has'nt been updated since 18:48 Friday 29 August 2014?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?[/p][/quote]Weekend off ?[/p][/quote]Am thinking they've joined the Peace camp down at Tredegar park and sat around the damp campfire singing communal songs....All together now....."We shall overcomeeeeeeeeeeeee eeee"....[/p][/quote]It's disconcerting the flippancy by which some here poke fun at a gathering dedicated to the peaceful process. Time they are a changing, to use an old term, they aren't all drug-fuelled hippies and flower power, but life-long and dedicated people who believe in peace and fairness. The peace message may be boring and inconvenient to some, but poking fun at how they are dressed etc just raising concern on what sort of society exists in the UK any more. Well, we know what sort it is, a divided prejudice-ridden, and hateful population who think old people are living too long, young people are bone idle and live on drugs, and sick and disabled are nothing more than lead-swinging benefit scroungers. Let us not forget the message is about , peace in our lives, a future for our children. Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message.[/p][/quote]"Whether the messenger is dressed in strange clothes, or hasn't shaved for a week diminished nothing from the message" Yes it does, I would bet most people would be more willing to listen to someone clean shaven and smartly dressed than someone who looks homeless with cornflakes and crumbs stuck in their beard. If someone can't master personal hygiene their views are likely to be bias and misinformed.[/p][/quote]You don't judge a book by its cover, but by the quality of what is inside, thus should opinion be based on that. You cannot seriously tell me because Obama and Cameron wear a suit and tie, their approaches and views are better ? Blair was a snappy dresser too, he took us to Iraq on the basis of reading a blog from some student in the middle east, in disregard to our own intelligence data. He now advises despots how to project an image as fathers of their people... Our other snappy dressers took us into Libya to remove one despot,and left the country in chaos,which even now is riddled in civil war. PR people could project Hitler as a saint... seeing is believing ? erm maybe not ! Mervyn James
  • Score: 0

6:40pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Mervyn James says...

Wherever NATO and the USA have gone (They don't necessarily consider each other, USA often goes it alone !), they leave devastation in their wake and DON'T solve issues,they simply create more of them. No-one seriously considers Iraq, Libya or Syria or Afghanistan has been remotely successful. But hell, NATO dress well....
Wherever NATO and the USA have gone (They don't necessarily consider each other, USA often goes it alone !), they leave devastation in their wake and DON'T solve issues,they simply create more of them. No-one seriously considers Iraq, Libya or Syria or Afghanistan has been remotely successful. But hell, NATO dress well.... Mervyn James
  • Score: 0

3:32pm Fri 5 Sep 14

Cymru Am Beth says...

EyeOnWales wrote:
smartie40 wrote:
What a load of Twaddle.. There Ancestors fought and died in both wars to keep this country and give people the freedom that they have without these armies bombs etc they wouldn't be here ludicrous!!!
I think one of the main concerns is that it has not been just the two wars now has it? There have actually been a shed load of wars in recent years, many ongoing, into which Nato has dived, and on occasion, played its part in triggering.

The notion that having 'these armies bombs', as you put it, plays any role in ensuring the safety of this nation, is the real twaddle. Did you notice the good ol' 'terror alert' being cranked up the other day. We become targets because of organisations like Nato, and 'our' bombs will do little to change that.
So what are we to do?
Stand back and do nothing.
Do you actually believe that we would be safer without them?
There are many, given the opportunity, would walk all over us if they could.
[quote][p][bold]EyeOnWales[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smartie40[/bold] wrote: What a load of Twaddle.. There Ancestors fought and died in both wars to keep this country and give people the freedom that they have without these armies bombs etc they wouldn't be here ludicrous!!![/p][/quote]I think one of the main concerns is that it has not been just the two wars now has it? There have actually been a shed load of wars in recent years, many ongoing, into which Nato has dived, and on occasion, played its part in triggering. The notion that having 'these armies bombs', as you put it, plays any role in ensuring the safety of this nation, is the real twaddle. Did you notice the good ol' 'terror alert' being cranked up the other day. We become targets because of organisations like Nato, and 'our' bombs will do little to change that.[/p][/quote]So what are we to do? Stand back and do nothing. Do you actually believe that we would be safer without them? There are many, given the opportunity, would walk all over us if they could. Cymru Am Beth
  • Score: 0

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