Romany gipsies tell of Newport traveller site fears

WORRIED: Sam Price, Colleen Rogers and Michaela Price, 24 far left, at their site in Allt-yr-yn

WORRIED: Sam Price, Colleen Rogers and Michaela Price, 24 far left, at their site in Allt-yr-yn

First published in News South Wales Argus: Photograph of the Author by , Reporter

ROMANY gipsies living on a legal site in Newport have told the Argus they are worried that proposals for a gipsy and traveller site next door could spoil their good relationship with the surrounding community.

For five years a Romany gipsy family has lived on a rural site off Brickyard Lane, in Allt-Yr-Yn.

But a list of suggested gipsy sites has proposed one in a field next to the settlement, where both Romany gipsies and travellers live.

Sam Price, 47, said he is deeply concerned that the proposal, if it came to fruition, would put undue pressure on his own community and their limited space.

He said over the last five years his group has made every effort to integrate into the community and has gained their trust.

“My grandchildren attend the primary school and we take every care to keep our site clean and protect the area from fly-tipping,” he said.

Mr Price is worried the group will be on the receiving end of hostility from locals if a site were placed near their community.

“The five years we have been here making a relationship – it will be gone overnight,” he said.

As well as nine Romany gipsies the site is also home to a group of five travellers.

The site has a stables, a bungalow and five caravans, with tenants paying rent. Newport council is now in the last week of a consultation on its long list of 11 proposed sites, due to close on October 4.

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11:58am Tue 2 Oct 12

richie55 says...

Even the "travellers" dont want the "travellers" put next to them. Says it all doesnt it !
Even the "travellers" dont want the "travellers" put next to them. Says it all doesnt it ! richie55
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12:17pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Radio Wales says...

richie55 wrote:
Even the "travellers" dont want the "travellers" put next to them. Says it all doesnt it !
Absolutely! While I never collectively judge anybody, there is a great deal of anecdotal evidence contributing to their anti-social reputation and it will need a groundswell of change in attitudes on both sides to ever hope to change that.
[quote][p][bold]richie55[/bold] wrote: Even the "travellers" dont want the "travellers" put next to them. Says it all doesnt it ![/p][/quote]Absolutely! While I never collectively judge anybody, there is a great deal of anecdotal evidence contributing to their anti-social reputation and it will need a groundswell of change in attitudes on both sides to ever hope to change that. Radio Wales
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2:36pm Tue 2 Oct 12

adrian simmonds says...

But as my wife keeps saying, how can they call themselvs "travellers" when they spend months/years in the same place?
I'd love to know whether they pay Council Tax. As for Income tax? You must be joking.
But as my wife keeps saying, how can they call themselvs "travellers" when they spend months/years in the same place? I'd love to know whether they pay Council Tax. As for Income tax? You must be joking. adrian simmonds
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4:52pm Tue 2 Oct 12

Crazydad says...

These are supposed to be travellers and yet the picture clearly shows fixed site caravans in the background. Travellers should have access to a site but only if it is for travellers and not permanent residence (this would inply they are not travellers). Do they pay council tax or tax of any kind and insurances of any kind. If they do, this should contribute to the £100k it is going to cost the residents of Newport to build each pitch. This is not including the ongoing maintenance of the site.
These are supposed to be travellers and yet the picture clearly shows fixed site caravans in the background. Travellers should have access to a site but only if it is for travellers and not permanent residence (this would inply they are not travellers). Do they pay council tax or tax of any kind and insurances of any kind. If they do, this should contribute to the £100k it is going to cost the residents of Newport to build each pitch. This is not including the ongoing maintenance of the site. Crazydad
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4:57pm Tue 2 Oct 12

james.dyer7@ntlworld.com says...

Same old arguments for and against.` I do agree about travellers who have no intention of travelling. An absolute joke.
Same old arguments for and against.` I do agree about travellers who have no intention of travelling. An absolute joke. james.dyer7@ntlworld.com
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10:46pm Tue 2 Oct 12

SASHA.P says...

My nan was a true romany and as a decendant I have gypsy blood in me but like most in modern society i live in a house made of bricks and mortar and pay rates like most people. I would never behave in the way some of these travellers do my grandparents settled in monmouth and im proud of our history you can not tar them all with the same brush but I do believe a lot of these travellors have a serious lack of respect and will fly tip anywhere they can ,unlike the settlement above which respect the area they are in I can understand the families above sticking to traditional ways and how they are now is how my grandparents generation settled down into society but I do believe a lot of these travellors that seem to turn up on the industrials around newport are well known for their antics and fly tipping i have witnessed it myself along a lane i was once driving behind a transit tipper and every few minutes saw somthing being off loaded into the side!could not take the reg as it was not visable the plates were black with mud they actually pulled over gave me daggers as i passed horrified at what i had just witnessed did call it in but doubt anything was done about it just another cost to the tax payer.any objections about the propsed sites around newport can be made on the council website i think the 4th is the deadline and yes i have objected because i dont want them living near our village either !
My nan was a true romany and as a decendant I have gypsy blood in me but like most in modern society i live in a house made of bricks and mortar and pay rates like most people. I would never behave in the way some of these travellers do my grandparents settled in monmouth and im proud of our history you can not tar them all with the same brush but I do believe a lot of these travellors have a serious lack of respect and will fly tip anywhere they can ,unlike the settlement above which respect the area they are in I can understand the families above sticking to traditional ways and how they are now is how my grandparents generation settled down into society but I do believe a lot of these travellors that seem to turn up on the industrials around newport are well known for their antics and fly tipping i have witnessed it myself along a lane i was once driving behind a transit tipper and every few minutes saw somthing being off loaded into the side!could not take the reg as it was not visable the plates were black with mud they actually pulled over gave me daggers as i passed horrified at what i had just witnessed did call it in but doubt anything was done about it just another cost to the tax payer.any objections about the propsed sites around newport can be made on the council website i think the 4th is the deadline and yes i have objected because i dont want them living near our village either ! SASHA.P
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6:56am Wed 3 Oct 12

gillshutt says...

There are good and bad in every section of society. If someone came along and said all 'Welsh people were trouble and thank god they don't live near us' there would be uproar. But it's fine to say the same of travellers. Go figure.
I can totally understand why these people are worried. They have finally found a place they can be accepted and the new site could disrupt that.
There are good and bad in every section of society. If someone came along and said all 'Welsh people were trouble and thank god they don't live near us' there would be uproar. But it's fine to say the same of travellers. Go figure. I can totally understand why these people are worried. They have finally found a place they can be accepted and the new site could disrupt that. gillshutt
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12:13pm Wed 3 Oct 12

NakedDancer says...

Credit to Mr Price for speaking up, he seems a very responsible and decent person.

However, a big part of the problem is that most Gypsies/Travellers don't want to travel. They want permanent homes (disguised as 'chalets') with roads, parking, schools etc. Hence the general public can't see any difference to the rest of society - except the associated crime, mess and taxpayer expense on sites.

Why not have a 'move on after (say) 12 months rule' on traveller sites. That would reduce the traveller community by 95% overnight to only those that really want the lifestyle/culture.
Credit to Mr Price for speaking up, he seems a very responsible and decent person. However, a big part of the problem is that most Gypsies/Travellers don't want to travel. They want permanent homes (disguised as 'chalets') with roads, parking, schools etc. Hence the general public can't see any difference to the rest of society - except the associated crime, mess and taxpayer expense on sites. Why not have a 'move on after (say) 12 months rule' on traveller sites. That would reduce the traveller community by 95% overnight to only those that really want the lifestyle/culture. NakedDancer
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