New powers bid to curb bad behaviour in Newport city centre

South Wales Argus: CSO Jack Purcell and CSO Perrie Di Ronato patrol Newport city centre (7632013) CSO Jack Purcell and CSO Perrie Di Ronato patrol Newport city centre (7632013)

FROM next week, trouble makers in the city centre will be forced to move on or face arrest, thanks to a new order championed by two Newport officers.

One Newport Partnership, which includes Gwent Police, Newport City Council and their partner agencies, is set to introduce a new dispersal order to reduce levels of anti-social behaviour.

One Newport took action after receiving repeated complaints from members of the public, and shop and businessowners about anti-social behaviour including begging, graffiti, street drinking and general rowdiness.

Where the dispersal order covers in Newport city centre:

South Wales Argus:

See a full version of this map here

According to Gwent Police, more than 670 calls of anti-social behaviour have been received since the start of 2014, with the main areas affected being High Street, John Frost Square, Gilligan’s Island and around Newport Leisure Centre.

Community support officer, Perrie Di Ronato, has been patrolling the city centre with colleague Jack Purcell for the past three years. She said: “We have carried out a huge amount of work over the last few years to tackle anti-social behaviour in this area and that work will continue. This order will give us the added power to deal with those offenders who refuse to take our advice and act responsibly and respectfully.

“This dispersal order will not affect anyone in Newport who is out having a good time and behaving.”

The new order will run from 9am on July 1, until midnight on January 1, 2015.

Dispersal orders give police officers and community support officers the power to direct any groups of two or more people to leave a specified area if their behaviour is likely to cause members of the public to feel alarmed, harassed or distressed.

Anyone who refuses to leave or returns to the area within 24 hours, when ordered not to do so can be arrested under the Anti-Social Behaviour Act 2003.

Newport Inspector Mark Pope, said: “The Newport City centre team in particular CSO’s Perrie Di Ronato and Jack Purcell have worked tirelessly in gathering sufficient evidence in order to obtain the dispersal order.

“The order will be of great benefit in making Newport city centre a safer place to visit, we are working hard to improve the reputation of Newport city centre at this exciting time where regeneration and redevelopment is moving at a pace.

“The dispersal order will enable us to send out a clear message unacceptable behaviour will not be tolerated.”

Gwent Police also said there was no plan to use the order in the event of protests against the Nato summit.

 

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9:26am Sat 28 Jun 14

Woodgnome says...

Overdue and good news. The balance of power has to be shifted away from the yobs and yobesses back in favour of decent citizens
Overdue and good news. The balance of power has to be shifted away from the yobs and yobesses back in favour of decent citizens Woodgnome
  • Score: 77

9:34am Sat 28 Jun 14

Lliswerry Man says...

Well done, as Woodgnome says, Long Overdue. Maybe more decent people and their families will return, its one of the reasons I do not use it unless I really have to. I detest the drunks, druggies, vagabonds and those whose every sentence spoken loudly is swearing, < that used to be confined to just Friday and Saturday Nights, but since these ALL day drinking hours have been allowed, it increased, so in reality all the Police are doing is chasing their own error when they agreed to allow all day drinking, along with the licensing committee. I'm not knocking all drinkers... but we have more Bad than Good.
Well done, as Woodgnome says, Long Overdue. Maybe more decent people and their families will return, its one of the reasons I do not use it unless I really have to. I detest the drunks, druggies, vagabonds and those whose every sentence spoken loudly is swearing, < that used to be confined to just Friday and Saturday Nights, but since these ALL day drinking hours have been allowed, it increased, so in reality all the Police are doing is chasing their own error when they agreed to allow all day drinking, along with the licensing committee. I'm not knocking all drinkers... but we have more Bad than Good. Lliswerry Man
  • Score: 42

10:08am Sat 28 Jun 14

jazzyjab says...

Congratulations to all involved, this is real, progress. Newport is rising!
Congratulations to all involved, this is real, progress. Newport is rising! jazzyjab
  • Score: 45

10:31am Sat 28 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

Lliswerry Man wrote:
Well done, as Woodgnome says, Long Overdue. Maybe more decent people and their families will return, its one of the reasons I do not use it unless I really have to. I detest the drunks, druggies, vagabonds and those whose every sentence spoken loudly is swearing, &lt; that used to be confined to just Friday and Saturday Nights, but since these ALL day drinking hours have been allowed, it increased, so in reality all the Police are doing is chasing their own error when they agreed to allow all day drinking, along with the licensing committee. I'm not knocking all drinkers... but we have more Bad than Good.
I can remember the alkies making St Paul's Bristol a horrible place when I worked there back in the 1970's-and the pubs closed at 10 pm, in the City, even on a Saturday, so I think all day licensing has very little to do with it. Nor does "cheap booze" because there's no such thing in UK. Rather, like any child, alkies and no hopers continuously "push the envelope" to see when authority will respond and there's been far too much tolerance in the name , I suppose , of "equality" (real citizens "equal" to p-heads and wasters? I think not) Let the tolerance diminish.
[quote][p][bold]Lliswerry Man[/bold] wrote: Well done, as Woodgnome says, Long Overdue. Maybe more decent people and their families will return, its one of the reasons I do not use it unless I really have to. I detest the drunks, druggies, vagabonds and those whose every sentence spoken loudly is swearing, < that used to be confined to just Friday and Saturday Nights, but since these ALL day drinking hours have been allowed, it increased, so in reality all the Police are doing is chasing their own error when they agreed to allow all day drinking, along with the licensing committee. I'm not knocking all drinkers... but we have more Bad than Good.[/p][/quote]I can remember the alkies making St Paul's Bristol a horrible place when I worked there back in the 1970's-and the pubs closed at 10 pm, in the City, even on a Saturday, so I think all day licensing has very little to do with it. Nor does "cheap booze" because there's no such thing in UK. Rather, like any child, alkies and no hopers continuously "push the envelope" to see when authority will respond and there's been far too much tolerance in the name , I suppose , of "equality" (real citizens "equal" to p-heads and wasters? I think not) Let the tolerance diminish. Dai Rear
  • Score: 30

10:48am Sat 28 Jun 14

pwharley says...

Bear in mind that PCSOs do not have the power of arrest.

If anyone refuses to move on if directed to do so, the PCSO will have to radio for a Police Constable to arrest the offender.
Bear in mind that PCSOs do not have the power of arrest. If anyone refuses to move on if directed to do so, the PCSO will have to radio for a Police Constable to arrest the offender. pwharley
  • Score: 12

10:50am Sat 28 Jun 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

This is probably a step in the right direction, but there's only so much that law enforcement agencies can do and it's always wise to have your wits about you when you are walking through any city. Creating a family atmosphere in Newport is possibly the best way to go to make things safer - although there will always been dangers, particularly if you are a single person on your own. To that end, it's not just Newport that can be dodgy - as I was walking through Cardiff at around 5.30pm last week and although I was aware that the same person behind me had been walking in the same direction for several blocks, I was unaware that they were actually purposely stalking me all the way to the train station - until they got up really close behind me, began 'fraternising' and then started asking for money!
This is probably a step in the right direction, but there's only so much that law enforcement agencies can do and it's always wise to have your wits about you when you are walking through any city. Creating a family atmosphere in Newport is possibly the best way to go to make things safer - although there will always been dangers, particularly if you are a single person on your own. To that end, it's not just Newport that can be dodgy - as I was walking through Cardiff at around 5.30pm last week and although I was aware that the same person behind me had been walking in the same direction for several blocks, I was unaware that they were actually purposely stalking me all the way to the train station - until they got up really close behind me, began 'fraternising' and then started asking for money! Katie Re-Registered
  • Score: 23

11:08am Sat 28 Jun 14

sperduti says...

about time too I have been approached in skinner street by these sort asking me for money and cigarettes , it is very intimidating to say the least and for a town the size of Newport this awful !! I never venture out in town once it gets dark now!!
about time too I have been approached in skinner street by these sort asking me for money and cigarettes , it is very intimidating to say the least and for a town the size of Newport this awful !! I never venture out in town once it gets dark now!! sperduti
  • Score: 26

11:25am Sat 28 Jun 14

lowandhardandinthecorner says...

I'm in the city every day for the gym and shopping and most weekends additionally in the winter for sport and I'm an old man now ( 67 ) , my experience is as follows:-
I have never felt intimidated by anyone and most encounters I have had with passers- by have been amusing or pleasant. The only minor annoyances are the occasional beggar and charity-workers waylaying me as I pass through but after all they have to get through life the best they can - just like the rest of us.
There seems to be a lot of miserable scaredy-cats who comment on this topic on a regular basis and perhaps they are ill-suited to city life and would be better off living in some quiet hamlet. The present laws are more than adequate to control offending.
I'm in the city every day for the gym and shopping and most weekends additionally in the winter for sport and I'm an old man now ( 67 ) , my experience is as follows:- I have never felt intimidated by anyone and most encounters I have had with passers- by have been amusing or pleasant. The only minor annoyances are the occasional beggar and charity-workers waylaying me as I pass through but after all they have to get through life the best they can - just like the rest of us. There seems to be a lot of miserable scaredy-cats who comment on this topic on a regular basis and perhaps they are ill-suited to city life and would be better off living in some quiet hamlet. The present laws are more than adequate to control offending. lowandhardandinthecorner
  • Score: -14

12:24pm Sat 28 Jun 14

sperduti says...

lowandhardandintheco
rner
wrote:
I'm in the city every day for the gym and shopping and most weekends additionally in the winter for sport and I'm an old man now ( 67 ) , my experience is as follows:-
I have never felt intimidated by anyone and most encounters I have had with passers- by have been amusing or pleasant. The only minor annoyances are the occasional beggar and charity-workers waylaying me as I pass through but after all they have to get through life the best they can - just like the rest of us.
There seems to be a lot of miserable scaredy-cats who comment on this topic on a regular basis and perhaps they are ill-suited to city life and would be better off living in some quiet hamlet. The present laws are more than adequate to control offending.
may be men don't feel so unsafe as women do ,!! and I know they approach women more so as I have spoken to ladies who have been asked for money and cigs !
[quote][p][bold]lowandhardandintheco rner[/bold] wrote: I'm in the city every day for the gym and shopping and most weekends additionally in the winter for sport and I'm an old man now ( 67 ) , my experience is as follows:- I have never felt intimidated by anyone and most encounters I have had with passers- by have been amusing or pleasant. The only minor annoyances are the occasional beggar and charity-workers waylaying me as I pass through but after all they have to get through life the best they can - just like the rest of us. There seems to be a lot of miserable scaredy-cats who comment on this topic on a regular basis and perhaps they are ill-suited to city life and would be better off living in some quiet hamlet. The present laws are more than adequate to control offending.[/p][/quote]may be men don't feel so unsafe as women do ,!! and I know they approach women more so as I have spoken to ladies who have been asked for money and cigs ! sperduti
  • Score: 23

12:56pm Sat 28 Jun 14

RandomPoster says...

About time the police took action.

I travel along the riverfront on my to and from work and there is a regular group of pi$$ heads congregating on the riverfront near the bingo hall (near George St bridge) who I would love to see banished.

They are always sleeping on the benches with their dogs running loose and drinking and generally making the area an unpleasant place to pass through.

This group seems to grow by the month and I am sick of seeing their drunken, tattooed faces drinking in public with impunity, there are already laws against drinking in public areas so I would love the police to actually enforce them.

I saw police officers talking to them recently but do nothing about the drinking and they even had to check one of them was ok and not unconscious as he was sprawled out on his front near the pathway.....once he confirmed he was just steaming and sleeping it off they went on their merry way.
About time the police took action. I travel along the riverfront on my to and from work and there is a regular group of pi$$ heads congregating on the riverfront near the bingo hall (near George St bridge) who I would love to see banished. They are always sleeping on the benches with their dogs running loose and drinking and generally making the area an unpleasant place to pass through. This group seems to grow by the month and I am sick of seeing their drunken, tattooed faces drinking in public with impunity, there are already laws against drinking in public areas so I would love the police to actually enforce them. I saw police officers talking to them recently but do nothing about the drinking and they even had to check one of them was ok and not unconscious as he was sprawled out on his front near the pathway.....once he confirmed he was just steaming and sleeping it off they went on their merry way. RandomPoster
  • Score: 23

1:58pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Limestonecowboy says...

Hopefully this can be extended into Pill's Commercial Road now this area also is being regenerated.
Hopefully this can be extended into Pill's Commercial Road now this area also is being regenerated. Limestonecowboy
  • Score: 13

2:08pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Thomas O'Malley says...

About time. I don't know why it takes 670 complaints before action is taken bearing in mind the vast majority of people won't even bother lodging a complaint. The police seem to have abandoned the town centre. I've been approached by a woman asking for money and a group of lads asking for money. Both times on quiet midweek evenings with Newport accents. Ok, not too scary but unpleasant at best and these situations easily escalate. I agree it's a wider problem - I had the same experience in Bath. A zero Terence approach (like Cwmbran) would soon solve the problem.
About time. I don't know why it takes 670 complaints before action is taken bearing in mind the vast majority of people won't even bother lodging a complaint. The police seem to have abandoned the town centre. I've been approached by a woman asking for money and a group of lads asking for money. Both times on quiet midweek evenings with Newport accents. Ok, not too scary but unpleasant at best and these situations easily escalate. I agree it's a wider problem - I had the same experience in Bath. A zero Terence approach (like Cwmbran) would soon solve the problem. Thomas O'Malley
  • Score: 16

2:11pm Sat 28 Jun 14

GaryUK says...

They could do with removing all the smack heads from town harassing people for money. "Have you got 50p for the bus or phone?" Get annoying when you know it will just go on smack!
They could do with removing all the smack heads from town harassing people for money. "Have you got 50p for the bus or phone?" Get annoying when you know it will just go on smack! GaryUK
  • Score: 23

2:14pm Sat 28 Jun 14

mocyoung says...

The police will have the power to move on people causing a nuisance in the city centre.

Presumably this covers the chuggers, accident compensation ambulance chasers and religious nutjobs as well as the drug addicts and loudmouths?
The police will have the power to move on people causing a nuisance in the city centre. Presumably this covers the chuggers, accident compensation ambulance chasers and religious nutjobs as well as the drug addicts and loudmouths? mocyoung
  • Score: 25

4:00pm Sat 28 Jun 14

KarloMarko says...

Meanwhile...

"POLICE Federation documents
revealed yesterday that a staggering
10,000 cops will be drafted from
across Britain for Nato’s Newport
summit to shut out mass anti-war
protests.

A briefing for members details one of
the biggest police operations since
the 2012 Olympics and the biggest
in Welsh history....Police Federation figures show there will be one officer for EVERY protester at the Celtic Manor Hotel between September 4 and 5." - Morning Star today.

So many they are being "housed" from the wider S.Wales right through to the West of England.

Miners Strike redux. You pays your money......
Meanwhile... "POLICE Federation documents revealed yesterday that a staggering 10,000 cops will be drafted from across Britain for Nato’s Newport summit to shut out mass anti-war protests. A briefing for members details one of the biggest police operations since the 2012 Olympics and the biggest in Welsh history....Police Federation figures show there will be one officer for EVERY protester at the Celtic Manor Hotel between September 4 and 5." - Morning Star today. So many they are being "housed" from the wider S.Wales right through to the West of England. Miners Strike redux. You pays your money...... KarloMarko
  • Score: -15

4:01pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Foxyboy3rd says...

I notice that the map doesn't cover the riverside by the Bingo where the Alcoholics hang out in large numbers. Always drinking, arguing etc. It's a bit like a holiday resort to them by there , they've completely taken it over.
I notice that the map doesn't cover the riverside by the Bingo where the Alcoholics hang out in large numbers. Always drinking, arguing etc. It's a bit like a holiday resort to them by there , they've completely taken it over. Foxyboy3rd
  • Score: 21

4:07pm Sat 28 Jun 14

nerdherd says...

What a great move Let's clean up our city and work together
What a great move Let's clean up our city and work together nerdherd
  • Score: 27

6:33pm Sat 28 Jun 14

wiggybettws says...

Cops patrolling city centre what a joke
I was in town opposite Barclay's this morning when a elderly lady slipped over 3 strangers assisted and a police woman didn't batter an eyelid and carried on walking by
Disgusting if you ask me
Cops patrolling city centre what a joke I was in town opposite Barclay's this morning when a elderly lady slipped over 3 strangers assisted and a police woman didn't batter an eyelid and carried on walking by Disgusting if you ask me wiggybettws
  • Score: 13

6:43pm Sat 28 Jun 14

marks missus says...

Good i hope it works as im fed up off seeing the drunks/druggies shouting and bawling and scaring the life out of people, they hang around by cash generator where they have just sold their stolen goods swearing and threatening, i hope it includes commercial rd as well and all the double parking and cars stopping to talk or do a deal in the middle of the road as well
Good i hope it works as im fed up off seeing the drunks/druggies shouting and bawling and scaring the life out of people, they hang around by cash generator where they have just sold their stolen goods swearing and threatening, i hope it includes commercial rd as well and all the double parking and cars stopping to talk or do a deal in the middle of the road as well marks missus
  • Score: 19

8:17pm Sat 28 Jun 14

inkyskin says...

cambrian road will be interesting now then! running the gauntlet past linekers and the breeze pi$$heads sat outside will now become almost a pleasure!
cambrian road will be interesting now then! running the gauntlet past linekers and the breeze pi$$heads sat outside will now become almost a pleasure! inkyskin
  • Score: 11

8:24pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Foxyboy3rd says...

Besides town , It seems to me that everywhere that has been designed/ set aside (at some expense to the ratepayers ), for the enjoyment and relaxation of the public has been taken over by the Alcoholics, being the biggest place in Gwent unfortunately draws them all in. Maybe there are designated drop in centres for them here. Much to Newports detriment.
Besides town , It seems to me that everywhere that has been designed/ set aside (at some expense to the ratepayers ), for the enjoyment and relaxation of the public has been taken over by the Alcoholics, being the biggest place in Gwent unfortunately draws them all in. Maybe there are designated drop in centres for them here. Much to Newports detriment. Foxyboy3rd
  • Score: 9

9:05pm Sat 28 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

The Police haven't abandoned town. There just aren't enough coppers to go around. I know community coppers who no longer class themselves as community, but as response because they spend all of their shift bouncing around the city from one call to another. Corporation Road and Moorland Park are under a dispersal notice as is much of Stockton Road area because of drugs and gangs causing trouble. These dispersal notices only move the problem to another without solving it and the ASB starts all over again. Try getting a police response when calling 101 after 7pm for ASB. One car covers the city with 2 pcso and a copper. It's taken days to get a response sometimes. You don't realise how thinly stretched the emergency services are until you need a response yourself.
I walked from The King Billy up town at 3pm today and was sickened by the brazen drug use and drunkeness on St. Paul's steps, outside Cash Converter, bottom of Hill Street and all around Charles Street. Dirty, scrounging individuals and groups pushing each other all over the pavement and road, Lower Dock Street and all along the river from Castle to the SDR bridge is usually littered too. Putting a brand new shopping centre here at a cost of tens of millions is a waste of time whilst this is the sort that inhabit town.
The Police haven't abandoned town. There just aren't enough coppers to go around. I know community coppers who no longer class themselves as community, but as response because they spend all of their shift bouncing around the city from one call to another. Corporation Road and Moorland Park are under a dispersal notice as is much of Stockton Road area because of drugs and gangs causing trouble. These dispersal notices only move the problem to another without solving it and the ASB starts all over again. Try getting a police response when calling 101 after 7pm for ASB. One car covers the city with 2 pcso and a copper. It's taken days to get a response sometimes. You don't realise how thinly stretched the emergency services are until you need a response yourself. I walked from The King Billy up town at 3pm today and was sickened by the brazen drug use and drunkeness on St. Paul's steps, outside Cash Converter, bottom of Hill Street and all around Charles Street. Dirty, scrounging individuals and groups pushing each other all over the pavement and road, Lower Dock Street and all along the river from Castle to the SDR bridge is usually littered too. Putting a brand new shopping centre here at a cost of tens of millions is a waste of time whilst this is the sort that inhabit town. landyman3030
  • Score: 22

9:22pm Sat 28 Jun 14

sunreader says...

Do the powers extend to dealing with the Newport Town councillors who have created the hole that is the town Centre. I'm still not convinced that the Friars Walk Development is going to be a success, more empty shops (albeit new ones) and big debts for us Council Tax payers but the possibility of some bargains in a Debenhams closing down sale in the not too distant future. You'll notice that I prefer town to City because Newport is a town.
Do the powers extend to dealing with the Newport Town councillors who have created the hole that is the town Centre. I'm still not convinced that the Friars Walk Development is going to be a success, more empty shops (albeit new ones) and big debts for us Council Tax payers but the possibility of some bargains in a Debenhams closing down sale in the not too distant future. You'll notice that I prefer town to City because Newport is a town. sunreader
  • Score: -16

9:57pm Sat 28 Jun 14

Thomas O'Malley says...

sunreader wrote:
Do the powers extend to dealing with the Newport Town councillors who have created the hole that is the town Centre. I'm still not convinced that the Friars Walk Development is going to be a success, more empty shops (albeit new ones) and big debts for us Council Tax payers but the possibility of some bargains in a Debenhams closing down sale in the not too distant future. You'll notice that I prefer town to City because Newport is a town.
There is no one definition of a City. Newport is a City because it was allocated City status like Hereford, Bangor and St Asaph - move on, it's irrelevant. Newport council don't own the shops and it's the job of the Plod to police the city centre. Business rates are set by central government not by the council. Where successive councils and WAG have failed is not keeping the place clean and not attracting big employers to the city centre. Let's hope Admiral is a start.
[quote][p][bold]sunreader[/bold] wrote: Do the powers extend to dealing with the Newport Town councillors who have created the hole that is the town Centre. I'm still not convinced that the Friars Walk Development is going to be a success, more empty shops (albeit new ones) and big debts for us Council Tax payers but the possibility of some bargains in a Debenhams closing down sale in the not too distant future. You'll notice that I prefer town to City because Newport is a town.[/p][/quote]There is no one definition of a City. Newport is a City because it was allocated City status like Hereford, Bangor and St Asaph - move on, it's irrelevant. Newport council don't own the shops and it's the job of the Plod to police the city centre. Business rates are set by central government not by the council. Where successive councils and WAG have failed is not keeping the place clean and not attracting big employers to the city centre. Let's hope Admiral is a start. Thomas O'Malley
  • Score: 15

11:20pm Sat 28 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

pwharley wrote:
Bear in mind that PCSOs do not have the power of arrest.

If anyone refuses to move on if directed to do so, the PCSO will have to radio for a Police Constable to arrest the offender.
Pcso do not have power of arrest but they have the radio for police backup. IF there is a copper available. Council wardens have no power at all but they are out on the front line nightly . I'm not talking about the ones who goal hang the bus station booking people for putting cigarettes on the floor. I'm talking about the guys who have to face up to the verbal and physical assaults from the lawless anti social groups every night. Yes they are paid for it. Yes they may choose to do it. But more and more they are having to turn up in fours now because how these things are escalating. By their own admission they spend the evenings chasing the same gangs around different areas. Town to Clarence Place to Maindee to Caerleon Road to Old Barn to Beechwood to Maindee to Town. The councils and pcso and police need more powers to combat this behaviour and deal with it instead of moving tonight's Maindee problem into St. Julian's problem.
[quote][p][bold]pwharley[/bold] wrote: Bear in mind that PCSOs do not have the power of arrest. If anyone refuses to move on if directed to do so, the PCSO will have to radio for a Police Constable to arrest the offender.[/p][/quote]Pcso do not have power of arrest but they have the radio for police backup. IF there is a copper available. Council wardens have no power at all but they are out on the front line nightly . I'm not talking about the ones who goal hang the bus station booking people for putting cigarettes on the floor. I'm talking about the guys who have to face up to the verbal and physical assaults from the lawless anti social groups every night. Yes they are paid for it. Yes they may choose to do it. But more and more they are having to turn up in fours now because how these things are escalating. By their own admission they spend the evenings chasing the same gangs around different areas. Town to Clarence Place to Maindee to Caerleon Road to Old Barn to Beechwood to Maindee to Town. The councils and pcso and police need more powers to combat this behaviour and deal with it instead of moving tonight's Maindee problem into St. Julian's problem. landyman3030
  • Score: 7

1:49am Sun 29 Jun 14

cath 872 says...

It's not just the beggars, but those people trying to sign you up to stuff. Some have been outside WH Smiths for weeks, broadband, I think. Or it's an accident claim, car insurance, or something similar. Then you have the religious folk outside the old M&S building, the Big Issue sellers, people playing the same half song on an accordion.......it's endless.
It's not just the beggars, but those people trying to sign you up to stuff. Some have been outside WH Smiths for weeks, broadband, I think. Or it's an accident claim, car insurance, or something similar. Then you have the religious folk outside the old M&S building, the Big Issue sellers, people playing the same half song on an accordion.......it's endless. cath 872
  • Score: 12

4:03am Sun 29 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

cath 872 wrote:
It's not just the beggars, but those people trying to sign you up to stuff. Some have been outside WH Smiths for weeks, broadband, I think. Or it's an accident claim, car insurance, or something similar. Then you have the religious folk outside the old M&amp;S building, the Big Issue sellers, people playing the same half song on an accordion.......it's endless.
Good point. Why don't the muppets who put on the Guy Fawkes masks and ponce around waiting to be photographed actually do something useful and drive the garbage off our streets? Don't they call themselves something like "reclaim the streets"?
[quote][p][bold]cath 872[/bold] wrote: It's not just the beggars, but those people trying to sign you up to stuff. Some have been outside WH Smiths for weeks, broadband, I think. Or it's an accident claim, car insurance, or something similar. Then you have the religious folk outside the old M&S building, the Big Issue sellers, people playing the same half song on an accordion.......it's endless.[/p][/quote]Good point. Why don't the muppets who put on the Guy Fawkes masks and ponce around waiting to be photographed actually do something useful and drive the garbage off our streets? Don't they call themselves something like "reclaim the streets"? Dai Rear
  • Score: -3

10:05am Sun 29 Jun 14

commonsensed says...

Unfortunately we have in Newport all the substance misuse clinics in the centre of town..this means that heroine addicts come into town often daily to pick up methadone..they meet each other and spend the day around often shoplifting, drinking etc. If substance misuse services went into the community it would have an immediate impact on the numbers of people addicted to addicted to heroin and alcohol in town and would help the addicts
trying to go clean by helping them stay away from other addictd who are not motivated to change.
Unfortunately we have in Newport all the substance misuse clinics in the centre of town..this means that heroine addicts come into town often daily to pick up methadone..they meet each other and spend the day around often shoplifting, drinking etc. If substance misuse services went into the community it would have an immediate impact on the numbers of people addicted to addicted to heroin and alcohol in town and would help the addicts trying to go clean by helping them stay away from other addictd who are not motivated to change. commonsensed
  • Score: 14

11:22am Sun 29 Jun 14

Woodgnome says...

commonsensed wrote:
Unfortunately we have in Newport all the substance misuse clinics in the centre of town..this means that heroine addicts come into town often daily to pick up methadone..they meet each other and spend the day around often shoplifting, drinking etc. If substance misuse services went into the community it would have an immediate impact on the numbers of people addicted to addicted to heroin and alcohol in town and would help the addicts
trying to go clean by helping them stay away from other addictd who are not motivated to change.
If this is true then then whoever authorised it wants their head examining along with the addicts. How on earth is this permitted?? One of the major drawbacks of Newport centre for ordinary folk are the misfits and drop outs that inhabit the place. Everybody recognises this but nothing is ever done. First impressions and image of a town centre are everything and it cant get much worse than Newport centre.
[quote][p][bold]commonsensed[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately we have in Newport all the substance misuse clinics in the centre of town..this means that heroine addicts come into town often daily to pick up methadone..they meet each other and spend the day around often shoplifting, drinking etc. If substance misuse services went into the community it would have an immediate impact on the numbers of people addicted to addicted to heroin and alcohol in town and would help the addicts trying to go clean by helping them stay away from other addictd who are not motivated to change.[/p][/quote]If this is true then then whoever authorised it wants their head examining along with the addicts. How on earth is this permitted?? One of the major drawbacks of Newport centre for ordinary folk are the misfits and drop outs that inhabit the place. Everybody recognises this but nothing is ever done. First impressions and image of a town centre are everything and it cant get much worse than Newport centre. Woodgnome
  • Score: 8

11:41am Sun 29 Jun 14

sunrise123 says...

inkyskin says...
cambrian road will be interesting now then! running the gauntlet past linekers and the breeze pi$$heads sat outside will now become almost a pleasure!

Yes I agree, disgraceful area considering anybody visiting the town by train or bus has to walk down this street and witness the older generations drunken behaviour. Walked through there last Saturday in the afternoon and witness swearing back and for between Linekars and Breeze , very intimidating.
inkyskin says... cambrian road will be interesting now then! running the gauntlet past linekers and the breeze pi$$heads sat outside will now become almost a pleasure! Yes I agree, disgraceful area considering anybody visiting the town by train or bus has to walk down this street and witness the older generations drunken behaviour. Walked through there last Saturday in the afternoon and witness swearing back and for between Linekars and Breeze , very intimidating. sunrise123
  • Score: 9

12:44pm Sun 29 Jun 14

inkyskin says...

cath 872 wrote:
It's not just the beggars, but those people trying to sign you up to stuff. Some have been outside WH Smiths for weeks, broadband, I think. Or it's an accident claim, car insurance, or something similar. Then you have the religious folk outside the old M&amp;S building, the Big Issue sellers, people playing the same half song on an accordion.......it's endless.
they do my swede in! if i want to change my broadband i'm quite capable of sourcing it out myself!
[quote][p][bold]cath 872[/bold] wrote: It's not just the beggars, but those people trying to sign you up to stuff. Some have been outside WH Smiths for weeks, broadband, I think. Or it's an accident claim, car insurance, or something similar. Then you have the religious folk outside the old M&S building, the Big Issue sellers, people playing the same half song on an accordion.......it's endless.[/p][/quote]they do my swede in! if i want to change my broadband i'm quite capable of sourcing it out myself! inkyskin
  • Score: 5

1:43pm Sun 29 Jun 14

regaturn says...

If the police can't improve the situation on Gilligans Island which a road width away from the main police station in Gwent I expect that after an initial flurry of activity they will lose interest as they always do, until next year when the Argus will report a sharp decline in reports of disorder.
If the police can't improve the situation on Gilligans Island which a road width away from the main police station in Gwent I expect that after an initial flurry of activity they will lose interest as they always do, until next year when the Argus will report a sharp decline in reports of disorder. regaturn
  • Score: 4

1:44pm Sun 29 Jun 14

portman says...

I work in the high st on the first floor sometimes the yobbo noise is unbearable i can't concentrate on my job outside chavdonalds is the main culprit get sorted now.
I work in the high st on the first floor sometimes the yobbo noise is unbearable i can't concentrate on my job outside chavdonalds is the main culprit get sorted now. portman
  • Score: 6

9:54pm Sun 29 Jun 14

commonsensed says...

It is true that the clinics are in the town centre - Kaleidoscope and Gwent substance misuse service... centralised 'one stop shop' services in the town to cut down costs..yet costing the town and the addicts dear. To make it even worse heroin addicts throughout south wales and beyond make Newport their destination of choice because of the ease of obtaining methadone from the 'one stop shop'. No where else in Wales does it like us and it shows! Newport town has a far higher ratio of substance misusers on the streets than any other in Wales because of a short sighted substance policy.
It is true that the clinics are in the town centre - Kaleidoscope and Gwent substance misuse service... centralised 'one stop shop' services in the town to cut down costs..yet costing the town and the addicts dear. To make it even worse heroin addicts throughout south wales and beyond make Newport their destination of choice because of the ease of obtaining methadone from the 'one stop shop'. No where else in Wales does it like us and it shows! Newport town has a far higher ratio of substance misusers on the streets than any other in Wales because of a short sighted substance policy. commonsensed
  • Score: 9

11:11pm Sun 29 Jun 14

sunrise123 says...

It is true that the clinics are in the town centre - Kaleidoscope and Gwent substance misuse service... centralised 'one stop shop' services in the town to cut down costs..yet costing the town and the addicts dear. To make it even worse heroin addicts throughout south wales and beyond make Newport their destination of choice because of the ease of obtaining methadone from the 'one stop shop'. No where else in Wales does it like us and it shows! Newport town has a far higher ratio of substance misusers on the streets than any other in Wales because of a short sighted substance policy.


So true!!!
It is true that the clinics are in the town centre - Kaleidoscope and Gwent substance misuse service... centralised 'one stop shop' services in the town to cut down costs..yet costing the town and the addicts dear. To make it even worse heroin addicts throughout south wales and beyond make Newport their destination of choice because of the ease of obtaining methadone from the 'one stop shop'. No where else in Wales does it like us and it shows! Newport town has a far higher ratio of substance misusers on the streets than any other in Wales because of a short sighted substance policy. So true!!! sunrise123
  • Score: 4

11:21pm Sun 29 Jun 14

sunrise123 says...

Hopefully Mr Henry Admiral will have something to say about this,the problem right on his doorstep!
Hopefully Mr Henry Admiral will have something to say about this,the problem right on his doorstep! sunrise123
  • Score: 3

2:57am Mon 30 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

commonsensed wrote:
It is true that the clinics are in the town centre - Kaleidoscope and Gwent substance misuse service... centralised 'one stop shop' services in the town to cut down costs..yet costing the town and the addicts dear. To make it even worse heroin addicts throughout south wales and beyond make Newport their destination of choice because of the ease of obtaining methadone from the 'one stop shop'. No where else in Wales does it like us and it shows! Newport town has a far higher ratio of substance misusers on the streets than any other in Wales because of a short sighted substance policy.
Reminds me of when Abertillery had an old pub turned over to something called "Victory Outreach" for nutters. There weren't enough in Abertillery ( true!) so they had to import them from as far afield as the Republic of Ireland
[quote][p][bold]commonsensed[/bold] wrote: It is true that the clinics are in the town centre - Kaleidoscope and Gwent substance misuse service... centralised 'one stop shop' services in the town to cut down costs..yet costing the town and the addicts dear. To make it even worse heroin addicts throughout south wales and beyond make Newport their destination of choice because of the ease of obtaining methadone from the 'one stop shop'. No where else in Wales does it like us and it shows! Newport town has a far higher ratio of substance misusers on the streets than any other in Wales because of a short sighted substance policy.[/p][/quote]Reminds me of when Abertillery had an old pub turned over to something called "Victory Outreach" for nutters. There weren't enough in Abertillery ( true!) so they had to import them from as far afield as the Republic of Ireland Dai Rear
  • Score: 5

4:39am Mon 30 Jun 14

artsfan says...

We have an ever-increasing number of people being made homeless. This will be getting much worse because of the bedroom tax. If you're not homeless due to an addiction, it's likely that you will end up with drug or alcohol addictions as a direct result of homelessness. The root causes need to be tackled, which are often severe poverty and associated poor self-esteem, mental illness that is not being properly addressed due to lack of care in the community. and the active promotion of the legal, addictive drug alcohol in our society.
We have an ever-increasing number of people being made homeless. This will be getting much worse because of the bedroom tax. If you're not homeless due to an addiction, it's likely that you will end up with drug or alcohol addictions as a direct result of homelessness. The root causes need to be tackled, which are often severe poverty and associated poor self-esteem, mental illness that is not being properly addressed due to lack of care in the community. and the active promotion of the legal, addictive drug alcohol in our society. artsfan
  • Score: -3

4:43am Mon 30 Jun 14

artsfan says...

I forgot to mention that our police have too many powers already which they frequently abuse. Spend time in the City Centre and you'll probably witness first-hand their nasty, unnecessary and uncalled-for bullying tactics. ACAB.
I forgot to mention that our police have too many powers already which they frequently abuse. Spend time in the City Centre and you'll probably witness first-hand their nasty, unnecessary and uncalled-for bullying tactics. ACAB. artsfan
  • Score: -4

6:28am Mon 30 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

artsfan wrote:
We have an ever-increasing number of people being made homeless. This will be getting much worse because of the bedroom tax. If you're not homeless due to an addiction, it's likely that you will end up with drug or alcohol addictions as a direct result of homelessness. The root causes need to be tackled, which are often severe poverty and associated poor self-esteem, mental illness that is not being properly addressed due to lack of care in the community. and the active promotion of the legal, addictive drug alcohol in our society.
To conflate welfare dependency and anti social behaviour seems rather , to use a boo word, "right wing"
Millions were destitute-when words meant what they say ("poverty" now having been inflated to mean "relatively less affluent"; "bedroom tax"="subsidy"))- in the 30's but were not vicious. I think you'll have to go a bit deeper for the roots of the current malaise than a facile blaming of the State.
[quote][p][bold]artsfan[/bold] wrote: We have an ever-increasing number of people being made homeless. This will be getting much worse because of the bedroom tax. If you're not homeless due to an addiction, it's likely that you will end up with drug or alcohol addictions as a direct result of homelessness. The root causes need to be tackled, which are often severe poverty and associated poor self-esteem, mental illness that is not being properly addressed due to lack of care in the community. and the active promotion of the legal, addictive drug alcohol in our society.[/p][/quote]To conflate welfare dependency and anti social behaviour seems rather , to use a boo word, "right wing" Millions were destitute-when words meant what they say ("poverty" now having been inflated to mean "relatively less affluent"; "bedroom tax"="subsidy"))- in the 30's but were not vicious. I think you'll have to go a bit deeper for the roots of the current malaise than a facile blaming of the State. Dai Rear
  • Score: 2

6:33am Mon 30 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

artsfan wrote:
I forgot to mention that our police have too many powers already which they frequently abuse. Spend time in the City Centre and you'll probably witness first-hand their nasty, unnecessary and uncalled-for bullying tactics. ACAB.
ACAB. Yes I notice that that's one used by the orifices who ponce around in Guy Fawkes masks, "reclaim the streets" or whatever fatuity they call themselves. Well, as I said above, why don't they get off their butts and do something about the dross on the streets of Newport?
[quote][p][bold]artsfan[/bold] wrote: I forgot to mention that our police have too many powers already which they frequently abuse. Spend time in the City Centre and you'll probably witness first-hand their nasty, unnecessary and uncalled-for bullying tactics. ACAB.[/p][/quote]ACAB. Yes I notice that that's one used by the orifices who ponce around in Guy Fawkes masks, "reclaim the streets" or whatever fatuity they call themselves. Well, as I said above, why don't they get off their butts and do something about the dross on the streets of Newport? Dai Rear
  • Score: 3

11:52am Mon 30 Jun 14

-trigg- says...

Gwent Police also said there was no plan to use the order in the event of protests against the Nato summit.


And we all believe that don't we boys and girls? Still, at least it means SOMETHING useful will have come out of the summit
[quote] Gwent Police also said there was no plan to use the order in the event of protests against the Nato summit. [/quote] And we all believe that don't we boys and girls? Still, at least it means SOMETHING useful will have come out of the summit -trigg-
  • Score: 1

11:54am Mon 30 Jun 14

welshmen says...

During this Dispersal Order time where do these unpopular people go?, they are either alcoholic or illegal drug users or both, this is just a sticky plaster, what happens after January 2015, they will probably come back into these areas as before, what's needed is a well thought out plan for the long term for these people.

During this Dispersal Order time limit big efforts should be made to rehabilitate these people, removing them to an institution to dry out with medical help could be a start....
During this Dispersal Order time where do these unpopular people go?, they are either alcoholic or illegal drug users or both, this is just a sticky plaster, what happens after January 2015, they will probably come back into these areas as before, what's needed is a well thought out plan for the long term for these people. During this Dispersal Order time limit big efforts should be made to rehabilitate these people, removing them to an institution to dry out with medical help could be a start.... welshmen
  • Score: 4

2:51pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Dai Rear says...

welshmen wrote:
During this Dispersal Order time where do these unpopular people go?, they are either alcoholic or illegal drug users or both, this is just a sticky plaster, what happens after January 2015, they will probably come back into these areas as before, what's needed is a well thought out plan for the long term for these people.

During this Dispersal Order time limit big efforts should be made to rehabilitate these people, removing them to an institution to dry out with medical help could be a start....
You say the same as Artsfan. Most alcoholics ad druggies ARE NOT antisocial. With a limited amount available would you try to rehabilitate the gob-offs or the others, the majority?
Aren't the gob-offs, who make the streets nasty, saying exactly "I don't want your help mate"?
It's a bit of a no-brainer isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: During this Dispersal Order time where do these unpopular people go?, they are either alcoholic or illegal drug users or both, this is just a sticky plaster, what happens after January 2015, they will probably come back into these areas as before, what's needed is a well thought out plan for the long term for these people. During this Dispersal Order time limit big efforts should be made to rehabilitate these people, removing them to an institution to dry out with medical help could be a start....[/p][/quote]You say the same as Artsfan. Most alcoholics ad druggies ARE NOT antisocial. With a limited amount available would you try to rehabilitate the gob-offs or the others, the majority? Aren't the gob-offs, who make the streets nasty, saying exactly "I don't want your help mate"? It's a bit of a no-brainer isn't it? Dai Rear
  • Score: 0

3:40pm Mon 30 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

If they are of the gob off variety who refuse help and intervention, maybe we ought to start looking at home curfew for those who have them and detention in an asylum type centre for those that don't. wean them off the hard way. Give them the dt's. Maybe they might look more favourably on rehab then. I'm sick to death of the softly softly approach covering your arse at every turn that has become the norm. Less politically correct and more pro active i say. Get them gone and let normal people see the light of day again.
If they are of the gob off variety who refuse help and intervention, maybe we ought to start looking at home curfew for those who have them and detention in an asylum type centre for those that don't. wean them off the hard way. Give them the dt's. Maybe they might look more favourably on rehab then. I'm sick to death of the softly softly approach covering your arse at every turn that has become the norm. Less politically correct and more pro active i say. Get them gone and let normal people see the light of day again. landyman3030
  • Score: 4

9:52am Tue 1 Jul 14

Evil Flanker says...

Thomas O'Malley wrote:
sunreader wrote:
Do the powers extend to dealing with the Newport Town councillors who have created the hole that is the town Centre. I'm still not convinced that the Friars Walk Development is going to be a success, more empty shops (albeit new ones) and big debts for us Council Tax payers but the possibility of some bargains in a Debenhams closing down sale in the not too distant future. You'll notice that I prefer town to City because Newport is a town.
There is no one definition of a City. Newport is a City because it was allocated City status like Hereford, Bangor and St Asaph - move on, it's irrelevant. Newport council don't own the shops and it's the job of the Plod to police the city centre. Business rates are set by central government not by the council. Where successive councils and WAG have failed is not keeping the place clean and not attracting big employers to the city centre. Let's hope Admiral is a start.
I have to agree with Thomas O'Malley on the point about not being convinced it will work.

It's all well and good attracting business to the city center, but what about attracting customers to use aforementioned businesses ?

What does Newport actually have left anymore in the City center that attracts people to go and stay a while ?

Live concert perhaps at Newport Center ? - How abot going to see a really unusual mechanical clock ? - Go and see a historic mural ? - Perhaps go roller or ice skating ? - Watch a street artist or some other show ?

None of the above, because we lost them ALL! - No, I'm not convinced, we have nothing to attract the customers to keep said business thriving.

In my honest opinion, we need more forms of entertainment to get people visiting, not just more shops that will close within a few months...
[quote][p][bold]Thomas O'Malley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sunreader[/bold] wrote: Do the powers extend to dealing with the Newport Town councillors who have created the hole that is the town Centre. I'm still not convinced that the Friars Walk Development is going to be a success, more empty shops (albeit new ones) and big debts for us Council Tax payers but the possibility of some bargains in a Debenhams closing down sale in the not too distant future. You'll notice that I prefer town to City because Newport is a town.[/p][/quote]There is no one definition of a City. Newport is a City because it was allocated City status like Hereford, Bangor and St Asaph - move on, it's irrelevant. Newport council don't own the shops and it's the job of the Plod to police the city centre. Business rates are set by central government not by the council. Where successive councils and WAG have failed is not keeping the place clean and not attracting big employers to the city centre. Let's hope Admiral is a start.[/p][/quote]I have to agree with Thomas O'Malley on the point about not being convinced it will work. It's all well and good attracting business to the city center, but what about attracting customers to use aforementioned businesses ? What does Newport actually have left anymore in the City center that attracts people to go and stay a while ? Live concert perhaps at Newport Center ? - How abot going to see a really unusual mechanical clock ? - Go and see a historic mural ? - Perhaps go roller or ice skating ? - Watch a street artist or some other show ? None of the above, because we lost them ALL! - No, I'm not convinced, we have nothing to attract the customers to keep said business thriving. In my honest opinion, we need more forms of entertainment to get people visiting, not just more shops that will close within a few months... Evil Flanker
  • Score: 3

9:53am Tue 1 Jul 14

Evil Flanker says...

EDIT : Thomas O'Malley wrote = sunreader

My bad...
EDIT : Thomas O'Malley wrote = sunreader My bad... Evil Flanker
  • Score: 1

4:36pm Tue 1 Jul 14

displayed says...

It seems the P C police are at it again.......
C a r e f u l l y selecting those bits they want you know, anything which rocks their boat they aint interested.
You just show ur self up w h e n u e d i t t h e s e c o m m e n t s......
It seems the P C police are at it again....... C a r e f u l l y selecting those bits they want you know, anything which rocks their boat they aint interested. You just show ur self up w h e n u e d i t t h e s e c o m m e n t s...... displayed
  • Score: 0

4:52pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Strider says...

commonsensed wrote:
It is true that the clinics are in the town centre - Kaleidoscope and Gwent substance misuse service... centralised 'one stop shop' services in the town to cut down costs..yet costing the town and the addicts dear. To make it even worse heroin addicts throughout south wales and beyond make Newport their destination of choice because of the ease of obtaining methadone from the 'one stop shop'. No where else in Wales does it like us and it shows! Newport town has a far higher ratio of substance misusers on the streets than any other in Wales because of a short sighted substance policy.
Good post Common, there's always gang of Druggy's always outside the clinic on Stow Hill swearing and drug taking.. .

I've complained for years about the Druggy's ,Drunks and various chav scum who make decent law abiding peoples lives a misery... Its not the lack of shops or parking why people avoid Newport its the Chuggers, Chav''s, Druggy's, Drunken a$$holes, Big Issue sellers, Evangelists and Iffys pubs are the problems..

There's also several long term unemployed?A4E type places in the town and the inmates spend more time in the town swearing and stealing then looking for work
[quote][p][bold]commonsensed[/bold] wrote: It is true that the clinics are in the town centre - Kaleidoscope and Gwent substance misuse service... centralised 'one stop shop' services in the town to cut down costs..yet costing the town and the addicts dear. To make it even worse heroin addicts throughout south wales and beyond make Newport their destination of choice because of the ease of obtaining methadone from the 'one stop shop'. No where else in Wales does it like us and it shows! Newport town has a far higher ratio of substance misusers on the streets than any other in Wales because of a short sighted substance policy.[/p][/quote]Good post Common, there's always gang of Druggy's always outside the clinic on Stow Hill swearing and drug taking.. . I've complained for years about the Druggy's ,Drunks and various chav scum who make decent law abiding peoples lives a misery... Its not the lack of shops or parking why people avoid Newport its the Chuggers, Chav''s, Druggy's, Drunken a$$holes, Big Issue sellers, Evangelists and Iffys pubs are the problems.. There's also several long term unemployed?A4E type places in the town and the inmates spend more time in the town swearing and stealing then looking for work Strider
  • Score: 3

8:21pm Tue 1 Jul 14

localtrader2 says...

So the group that hung around by the benches at the top of Emlyn Walk most of the day weren't spoken to at all. The several very obvious drug deals at the edge of Kear Court were ignored. These deals are not even discreet anymore.
Great Success on the first day then.
Until these type of issues are dealt with properly, not just the police but the courts too. (zero tolerance needed). It will not matter how many fancy new shops and developments are built, people will not come to Newport. Many people that live in Newport and surrounding areas refuse to come as they are afraid and do not feel safe. That is the real reason that we have lost so many shops as the customers are to afraid to use the shops that were here.
So the group that hung around by the benches at the top of Emlyn Walk most of the day weren't spoken to at all. The several very obvious drug deals at the edge of Kear Court were ignored. These deals are not even discreet anymore. Great Success on the first day then. Until these type of issues are dealt with properly, not just the police but the courts too. (zero tolerance needed). It will not matter how many fancy new shops and developments are built, people will not come to Newport. Many people that live in Newport and surrounding areas refuse to come as they are afraid and do not feel safe. That is the real reason that we have lost so many shops as the customers are to afraid to use the shops that were here. localtrader2
  • Score: 4

8:28pm Tue 1 Jul 14

merlin the silure says...

sorry guys and gals-this is just smoke and mirrors-this linp wristed approach is not the answaer
sorry guys and gals-this is just smoke and mirrors-this linp wristed approach is not the answaer merlin the silure
  • Score: -3

3:09pm Wed 2 Jul 14

landyman3030 says...

artsfan wrote:
I forgot to mention that our police have too many powers already which they frequently abuse. Spend time in the City Centre and you'll probably witness first-hand their nasty, unnecessary and uncalled-for bullying tactics. ACAB.
If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about.
You'd be the first to bleat if there were no coppers about. You can't seriously moan when they stand there and enforce the law. All laws from spitting and littering to loitering and nuisance crimes. All low on many peoples priority list, but still crimes. It's about time you bleeding heart liberals buggered off out of the way and let the authorities do their job. And if that entails a few thick ears then bring it on. Too many people think they are above the law. Humble pie all around i say. Lashings of it.
[quote][p][bold]artsfan[/bold] wrote: I forgot to mention that our police have too many powers already which they frequently abuse. Spend time in the City Centre and you'll probably witness first-hand their nasty, unnecessary and uncalled-for bullying tactics. ACAB.[/p][/quote]If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to worry about. You'd be the first to bleat if there were no coppers about. You can't seriously moan when they stand there and enforce the law. All laws from spitting and littering to loitering and nuisance crimes. All low on many peoples priority list, but still crimes. It's about time you bleeding heart liberals buggered off out of the way and let the authorities do their job. And if that entails a few thick ears then bring it on. Too many people think they are above the law. Humble pie all around i say. Lashings of it. landyman3030
  • Score: 2

9:45am Thu 3 Jul 14

Roger Elliot says...

Are they going to sort those goddam pavement cyclists?
Are they going to sort those goddam pavement cyclists? Roger Elliot
  • Score: 1

1:09pm Thu 3 Jul 14

myopinion1988 says...

Roger Elliot wrote:
Are they going to sort those goddam pavement cyclists?
The road cyclists are just as bad!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Roger Elliot[/bold] wrote: Are they going to sort those goddam pavement cyclists?[/p][/quote]The road cyclists are just as bad!!!! myopinion1988
  • Score: 0

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