Llanvair Discoed homes plan upsets villagers

VILLAGERS say they are frustrated building work on a small housing development can continue without anywhere to put its sewage.

Monmouthshire council granted planning permission for an extension of Rose Cottage, Llanvair Discoed and two new houses in 2009, with a sewage treatment plant discharging into the nearby stream endorsed by the Environment Agency.

However, Monmouthshire council’s head of planning, George Ashworth, said subsequently, the Agency changed its mind and refused to grant a drainage exemption for the proposal, so the developer is therefore investigating alternative foul drainage disposal methods.

Ray Stephens, who lives opposite the site, said residents have had to put up with the inconvenience of the building work without a solution for the disposal of the homes’ waste.

He said: “It’s not about the building it’s about the sewage and the environment and what’s going to happen.

“It doesn’t make sense to us to carry on when they don’t know the end game.”

Another villager, James Christie, wrote to the council in May after an amended drainage system was proposed.

He is worried if the problem is not solved, there will be “complete, uninhabitable properties blotting the landscape.”

Mr Ashworth said the developer is entitled to carry on with construction and is fully aware they cannot be occupied without approved drainage.

“Such a scheme will need to be submitted as a new planning application, and once received, the neighbours, the community council and agencies will be consulted.

To date, submission of a planning application for such a drainage scheme is still awaited,”

he said.

Brian Lewis, 70, owner of the company building the homes, Eastlake Developments, said he lived in the village for 18 years and put much time and effort into improving it.

He said he rescued The Woodlands Tavern pub from closure and helped put a new roof on the church.

“We put a lot of energy and effort into that village and it upsets me to think that residents are unhappy,” he said.

“We have done nothing that hasn’t been agreed with the powers that be.”

Mr Lewis said he is considering putting in sewage tanks which would be emptied on a regular basis.

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11:15am Thu 27 Sep 12

Keith and Sue Gibbs says...

Brian Lewis rescued The Woodlands Tavern over 18 years ago, we, the current owners, have been running it as a successful business for the last 17 years without any threat of closure.
Brian Lewis rescued The Woodlands Tavern over 18 years ago, we, the current owners, have been running it as a successful business for the last 17 years without any threat of closure. Keith and Sue Gibbs

2:04pm Thu 27 Sep 12

crapdevelopments says...

Have a look at the Facebook Page for more details on this disgusting issue.

2 complaints against George Ashworth made 12 weeks ago. The external investigator that was brought in has removed themselves - don't know why.

No communication from MCC.

Brian Lewis has not lived in the village for years, the church roof has been on longer than I have been in the village and the rescue of the Woodlands happened years ago again. He has treated this village like his own little fiefdom in the last few years and this latest development is just one more feeble attempt to be the Big Man. Too little too late.
Have a look at the Facebook Page for more details on this disgusting issue. 2 complaints against George Ashworth made 12 weeks ago. The external investigator that was brought in has removed themselves - don't know why. No communication from MCC. Brian Lewis has not lived in the village for years, the church roof has been on longer than I have been in the village and the rescue of the Woodlands happened years ago again. He has treated this village like his own little fiefdom in the last few years and this latest development is just one more feeble attempt to be the Big Man. Too little too late. crapdevelopments

2:05pm Thu 27 Sep 12

crapdevelopments says...

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870 LIKES - we only have about 200 people living in the village!
https://www.facebook .com/CrapBuildingDev elopments 870 LIKES - we only have about 200 people living in the village! crapdevelopments

7:08pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Limestonecowboy says...

What about sewage treatment plant for each property problem solved?
What about sewage treatment plant for each property problem solved? Limestonecowboy

7:13pm Thu 27 Sep 12

Limestonecowboy says...

Limestonecowboy wrote:
What about sewage treatment plant for each property problem solved?
Ignore this post- didn't note Env. Agency statement!
[quote][p][bold]Limestonecowboy[/bold] wrote: What about sewage treatment plant for each property problem solved?[/p][/quote]Ignore this post- didn't note Env. Agency statement! Limestonecowboy

7:56am Fri 28 Sep 12

crapdevelopments says...

Environment Agency won't allow a treatment plant only allow cess pits.

The village has no mains sewage. The original application (passed by MCC) was for discharge into the village stream opposite the property....

Each of the new builds needs a 47,000l cess pit installed. Plus on top of that needs to be a permeable drive installed. That is two MASSIVE holes in the ground and they on't fit!
Environment Agency won't allow a treatment plant only allow cess pits. The village has no mains sewage. The original application (passed by MCC) was for discharge into the village stream opposite the property.... Each of the new builds needs a 47,000l cess pit installed. Plus on top of that needs to be a permeable drive installed. That is two MASSIVE holes in the ground and they on't fit! crapdevelopments

8:11am Fri 28 Sep 12

crapdevelopments says...

Apparently MCC has had a major IT failure this week. Anybody else notice or was informed?
Apparently MCC has had a major IT failure this week. Anybody else notice or was informed? crapdevelopments

1:43pm Sat 29 Sep 12

Limestonecowboy says...

crapdevelopments wrote:
Environment Agency won't allow a treatment plant only allow cess pits. The village has no mains sewage. The original application (passed by MCC) was for discharge into the village stream opposite the property.... Each of the new builds needs a 47,000l cess pit installed. Plus on top of that needs to be a permeable drive installed. That is two MASSIVE holes in the ground and they on't fit!
Permeable drianage is a standard requirement for new developments now to alleviate storm water runoff & percolates naturally through the top layer into granular layers beneath 'MASSIVE' hole? don't think so stop 'throwing stones,' whether its about someones business or MCC, from the comfort of your armchair.
[quote][p][bold]crapdevelopments[/bold] wrote: Environment Agency won't allow a treatment plant only allow cess pits. The village has no mains sewage. The original application (passed by MCC) was for discharge into the village stream opposite the property.... Each of the new builds needs a 47,000l cess pit installed. Plus on top of that needs to be a permeable drive installed. That is two MASSIVE holes in the ground and they on't fit![/p][/quote]Permeable drianage is a standard requirement for new developments now to alleviate storm water runoff & percolates naturally through the top layer into granular layers beneath 'MASSIVE' hole? don't think so stop 'throwing stones,' whether its about someones business or MCC, from the comfort of your armchair. Limestonecowboy

4:00pm Thu 4 Oct 12

crapdevelopments says...

So, you reckon that two x 47,000 litre sealed tanks (2.8m wide by 9m long) surrounded by reinforced concrete buried deeply enough so that you can put the layers you mention above with room so that the run off still doesn't pollute the stream won't be massive? MMM... do your sums and figure it out.

By my simple calculations each hole is going to be 4.5m deep x 9.6m long x 2.8m wide. That takes into account the concrete and runoff layers that you mention. It doesn't take into account the water table which according to EA is at 30cm below road level, so the hole may well have to deeper.

By my figures that gives you ONE hole of 119 cubic metres. Based on that 1 cubic metre of soil is approx 1.44 tonnes gives you a total of 171 tonnes of earth needing to be moved.

And that is for ONE hole.

Now I may be wrong but until those plans are published for consultation we are not going to know just how big or where they will actually go we will. And we are STILL waiting for those plans months after the fact.

And as I live in the village it affects me - so I'm hardly throwing stones from the comfort of my armchair.
So, you reckon that two x 47,000 litre sealed tanks (2.8m wide by 9m long) surrounded by reinforced concrete buried deeply enough so that you can put the layers you mention above with room so that the run off still doesn't pollute the stream won't be massive? MMM... do your sums and figure it out. By my simple calculations each hole is going to be 4.5m deep x 9.6m long x 2.8m wide. That takes into account the concrete and runoff layers that you mention. It doesn't take into account the water table which according to EA is at 30cm below road level, so the hole may well have to deeper. By my figures that gives you ONE hole of 119 cubic metres. Based on that 1 cubic metre of soil is approx 1.44 tonnes gives you a total of 171 tonnes of earth needing to be moved. And that is for ONE hole. Now I may be wrong but until those plans are published for consultation we are not going to know just how big or where they will actually go we will. And we are STILL waiting for those plans months after the fact. And as I live in the village it affects me - so I'm hardly throwing stones from the comfort of my armchair. crapdevelopments

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