David Pipe and Mike Flynn to leave County at end of season

EXIT: Mike Flynn and David Pipe will leave County this summer

EXIT: Mike Flynn and David Pipe will leave County this summer

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NEWPORT County boss Justin Edinburgh has confirmed that former Wales international David Pipe and midfielder Mike Flynn have been told they won’t be offered deals beyond the end of this season, the Argus can exclusively reveal.

However, both players ARE available for selection throughout the remainder of this campaign.

The Argus responded directly to fan requests this morning to investigate messageboard and terrace rumours that five Newport County players were not being picked for financial reasons, at the insistence of the club.

The was strenuously denied and manager Justin Edinburgh has now confirmed that he decided to inform both Pipe and Flynn that they were going to be leaving the club at the end of the season.

Both players were five games away from triggering an automatic contract extension, but after discussions, both players have agreed to withdraw that clause from their terms.

“David and Flynny are available for selection, both have agreed to take that clause out of their deals and both of them could play at the weekend, they are still very much involved,” he said.

“But they know they aren’t going to be getting deals after the end of this season.

“And in the interests of clarity, this is 100% my decision and absolutely nothing to do with any of the directors’.”

There is absolutely no truth in speculation surrounding Tom Naylor, Danny Crow or Ryan Jackson.

Naylor is a loan player, Crow is already contracted for next season and the club have opened contract negotiations with Jackson over extending his one-year deal.

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11:57am Wed 26 Feb 14

gmc says...

So why isn't Jackson being picked then, Justin?
So why isn't Jackson being picked then, Justin? gmc
  • Score: 2

11:59am Wed 26 Feb 14

jetspotter says...

Don't understand the Pipe decision. He has always struck me as a quality player who gives his all for the cause. It's all very well to say he is still available for selection but he is hardly going to be so wholehearted knowing his days are numbered. Can't help feeling there is something else going down here. Are we losing the plot I wonder ?!!
Don't understand the Pipe decision. He has always struck me as a quality player who gives his all for the cause. It's all very well to say he is still available for selection but he is hardly going to be so wholehearted knowing his days are numbered. Can't help feeling there is something else going down here. Are we losing the plot I wonder ?!! jetspotter
  • Score: 4

12:04pm Wed 26 Feb 14

BassalegCountyFan says...

Gutted to hear this news.
Pipe has been the heartbeat of our club on the field since he arrived. His commitment, dedication and passion inspires other players and the fans, and I think it would be a real mistake to lose our captain. In fact, things might have gone differently last night if he was on the field.
Also Flynny always makes a positive impact, and he also gives his all for the club.

Please rethink these decisions Justin, I think releasing Pipe and Flynn would be a huge mistake.
Gutted to hear this news. Pipe has been the heartbeat of our club on the field since he arrived. His commitment, dedication and passion inspires other players and the fans, and I think it would be a real mistake to lose our captain. In fact, things might have gone differently last night if he was on the field. Also Flynny always makes a positive impact, and he also gives his all for the club. Please rethink these decisions Justin, I think releasing Pipe and Flynn would be a huge mistake. BassalegCountyFan
  • Score: 10

12:11pm Wed 26 Feb 14

keithbob says...

BassalegCountyFan wrote:
Gutted to hear this news.
Pipe has been the heartbeat of our club on the field since he arrived. His commitment, dedication and passion inspires other players and the fans, and I think it would be a real mistake to lose our captain. In fact, things might have gone differently last night if he was on the field.
Also Flynny always makes a positive impact, and he also gives his all for the club.

Please rethink these decisions Justin, I think releasing Pipe and Flynn would be a huge mistake.
agree totally,why are these two not being played as im sure they both could have made a difference to last night and last saturdays shambles!.we need a clearout but not sure of these two!
[quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: Gutted to hear this news. Pipe has been the heartbeat of our club on the field since he arrived. His commitment, dedication and passion inspires other players and the fans, and I think it would be a real mistake to lose our captain. In fact, things might have gone differently last night if he was on the field. Also Flynny always makes a positive impact, and he also gives his all for the club. Please rethink these decisions Justin, I think releasing Pipe and Flynn would be a huge mistake.[/p][/quote]agree totally,why are these two not being played as im sure they both could have made a difference to last night and last saturdays shambles!.we need a clearout but not sure of these two! keithbob
  • Score: 7

12:21pm Wed 26 Feb 14

jiffygeorge says...

I agree with Justin - Pipe and Flynn should go, along with Jolley, Howe, Jeffers, Zembroski, Porter and Anthony. Realistically, they are in all cases not up to League 2 standard. We are going nowhere this season now. Our form is relegation stuff. But we have done well with what we had and it's now time to take strong action and rebuild a stronger squad for next season.
I agree with Justin - Pipe and Flynn should go, along with Jolley, Howe, Jeffers, Zembroski, Porter and Anthony. Realistically, they are in all cases not up to League 2 standard. We are going nowhere this season now. Our form is relegation stuff. But we have done well with what we had and it's now time to take strong action and rebuild a stronger squad for next season. jiffygeorge
  • Score: -29

12:30pm Wed 26 Feb 14

barrie says...

Have you watched the last few games? Byron has been one of the best players.
Have you watched the last few games? Byron has been one of the best players. barrie
  • Score: 25

12:37pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Adrian Williams says...

jiffygeorge wrote:
I agree with Justin - Pipe and Flynn should go, along with Jolley, Howe, Jeffers, Zembroski, Porter and Anthony. Realistically, they are in all cases not up to League 2 standard. We are going nowhere this season now. Our form is relegation stuff. But we have done well with what we had and it's now time to take strong action and rebuild a stronger squad for next season.
Zebroski and Anthony should go ? Clearly you have no idea about football. Gutted to hear about Pipey - he's been awesome since he arrived at the club and deserves more in return I feel. Before people start going off on one, just remember where we've come from - this is our first season back in 25 years and we are 9th so wind your necks in
[quote][p][bold]jiffygeorge[/bold] wrote: I agree with Justin - Pipe and Flynn should go, along with Jolley, Howe, Jeffers, Zembroski, Porter and Anthony. Realistically, they are in all cases not up to League 2 standard. We are going nowhere this season now. Our form is relegation stuff. But we have done well with what we had and it's now time to take strong action and rebuild a stronger squad for next season.[/p][/quote]Zebroski and Anthony should go ? Clearly you have no idea about football. Gutted to hear about Pipey - he's been awesome since he arrived at the club and deserves more in return I feel. Before people start going off on one, just remember where we've come from - this is our first season back in 25 years and we are 9th so wind your necks in Adrian Williams
  • Score: 31

12:42pm Wed 26 Feb 14

llandaff says...

Judging by the very evident collapse in form and the way in which the players have conducted themselves on the pitch of late, there has to be more to this than meets the eye. This news has come out of the blue and is a shock especially in respect of David Pipe one of our hardest working players.
Is there disquiet amongst the players? I very much thinks so as they must be wondering who's next for the chop? This does not bode well at all.
It is also evident that perhaps Mr Edinburgh may not be up to the task himself either, as recent "tactical" decisions eg "team rotation" and the relentless hoofing of the long ball up field and hoping for the best has failed miserably. I cannot believe that County are still in 9th place in the league!!
Judging by the very evident collapse in form and the way in which the players have conducted themselves on the pitch of late, there has to be more to this than meets the eye. This news has come out of the blue and is a shock especially in respect of David Pipe one of our hardest working players. Is there disquiet amongst the players? I very much thinks so as they must be wondering who's next for the chop? This does not bode well at all. It is also evident that perhaps Mr Edinburgh may not be up to the task himself either, as recent "tactical" decisions eg "team rotation" and the relentless hoofing of the long ball up field and hoping for the best has failed miserably. I cannot believe that County are still in 9th place in the league!! llandaff
  • Score: -3

12:46pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Adrian Williams says...

Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com
Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com Adrian Williams
  • Score: 10

12:52pm Wed 26 Feb 14

ncfcr says...

Ah well, at least we know now. Good investigative journalism by the Argus here.

I must say though that at times last night it seemes as though we were lacking cohesion and, most of all, leadership. Pipe and Flynn bring that in abundance, so I'm hoping they're both back in the side on Saturday now that the clauses have been removed. We need these old heads to get enough points on the board to ensure survival; then we can let Justin weave his magic in rebuilding a side for next year.
Ah well, at least we know now. Good investigative journalism by the Argus here. I must say though that at times last night it seemes as though we were lacking cohesion and, most of all, leadership. Pipe and Flynn bring that in abundance, so I'm hoping they're both back in the side on Saturday now that the clauses have been removed. We need these old heads to get enough points on the board to ensure survival; then we can let Justin weave his magic in rebuilding a side for next year. ncfcr
  • Score: 7

1:12pm Wed 26 Feb 14

llandaff says...

Adrian Williams wrote:
Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com
Well perhaps you would like to convince me otherwise.
Do you mean to tell me that the obvious poor team selection, long ball tactic failure, low team morale and the nonsense of team rotation when it is not needed are perfectly acceptable and should not be questioned?
My comments were carefully considered as I am not into knee jerks. (I am too old)
The evidence is there for all to see.
[quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com[/p][/quote]Well perhaps you would like to convince me otherwise. Do you mean to tell me that the obvious poor team selection, long ball tactic failure, low team morale and the nonsense of team rotation when it is not needed are perfectly acceptable and should not be questioned? My comments were carefully considered as I am not into knee jerks. (I am too old) The evidence is there for all to see. llandaff
  • Score: 0

1:16pm Wed 26 Feb 14

llandaff says...

barrie wrote:
Have you watched the last few games? Byron has been one of the best players.
That is not really saying very much is it?
[quote][p][bold]barrie[/bold] wrote: Have you watched the last few games? Byron has been one of the best players.[/p][/quote]That is not really saying very much is it? llandaff
  • Score: -2

1:59pm Wed 26 Feb 14

CountyValleyboy says...

Pipe allways gives 100 %, a mistake to get rid of him!
Anthony is also a steady player, zeb i think is playing well, Howe looks a bit slow i think for league 2.
Pipe allways gives 100 %, a mistake to get rid of him! Anthony is also a steady player, zeb i think is playing well, Howe looks a bit slow i think for league 2. CountyValleyboy
  • Score: 3

2:07pm Wed 26 Feb 14

ohc says...

I am pleased to see that JE is already facing up to the reality that there needs to be quite a clear out at the end of the season. There are a few more names to come no doubt
I am pleased to see that JE is already facing up to the reality that there needs to be quite a clear out at the end of the season. There are a few more names to come no doubt ohc
  • Score: 3

2:12pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Adrian Williams says...

llandaff wrote:
Adrian Williams wrote: Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com
Well perhaps you would like to convince me otherwise. Do you mean to tell me that the obvious poor team selection, long ball tactic failure, low team morale and the nonsense of team rotation when it is not needed are perfectly acceptable and should not be questioned? My comments were carefully considered as I am not into knee jerks. (I am too old) The evidence is there for all to see.
Let me remind of your comments last week after the Oxford game as you've obviously forgotten : "County won the match as the better team despite the appalling decisions. A great result both morally and richly deserved." Yes, we've hit a poor patch of form and I'm disappointed as much as the next man by last night's result but to start questioning whether the manager is "up to it" at this stage at the first real wobble is a massive over reaction. If we finish top half this season that's a monumentally good first season back and probably a realistic level for us as a club. We may even turn it around yet and sneak a play off place and I'm sure you'll be changing your tune again. Let's not jump the gun after a few disappointing results. We win together, we lose together.
[quote][p][bold]llandaff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com[/p][/quote]Well perhaps you would like to convince me otherwise. Do you mean to tell me that the obvious poor team selection, long ball tactic failure, low team morale and the nonsense of team rotation when it is not needed are perfectly acceptable and should not be questioned? My comments were carefully considered as I am not into knee jerks. (I am too old) The evidence is there for all to see.[/p][/quote]Let me remind of your comments last week after the Oxford game as you've obviously forgotten : "County won the match as the better team despite the appalling decisions. A great result both morally and richly deserved." Yes, we've hit a poor patch of form and I'm disappointed as much as the next man by last night's result but to start questioning whether the manager is "up to it" at this stage at the first real wobble is a massive over reaction. If we finish top half this season that's a monumentally good first season back and probably a realistic level for us as a club. We may even turn it around yet and sneak a play off place and I'm sure you'll be changing your tune again. Let's not jump the gun after a few disappointing results. We win together, we lose together. Adrian Williams
  • Score: 11

2:28pm Wed 26 Feb 14

NakedDancer says...

Rotation is a red herring - just paper talk by Jimmy Dack. Last night Worley came back after suspension to replace Hughes (who had a poor game against Cheltenham but wasn't the only one to be fair). Also Porter replaced Minshull and Jolley replaced Howe. 3 changes since the poor Cheltenham performance is not unusual. In fact, the even worse performance against Wimbledon suggests there should have been more changes. I'm not sure who would have improved it though - maybe Pipe, Jackson or Flynn ?

For some reason since Xmas the whole squad is underperforming almost to a man and thats probably a situation JE hasn't had since joining County. I'd back him to sort it though.
Rotation is a red herring - just paper talk by Jimmy Dack. Last night Worley came back after suspension to replace Hughes (who had a poor game against Cheltenham but wasn't the only one to be fair). Also Porter replaced Minshull and Jolley replaced Howe. 3 changes since the poor Cheltenham performance is not unusual. In fact, the even worse performance against Wimbledon suggests there should have been more changes. I'm not sure who would have improved it though - maybe Pipe, Jackson or Flynn ? For some reason since Xmas the whole squad is underperforming almost to a man and thats probably a situation JE hasn't had since joining County. I'd back him to sort it though. NakedDancer
  • Score: 9

2:47pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Harps62 says...

jiffygeorge wrote:
I agree with Justin - Pipe and Flynn should go, along with Jolley, Howe, Jeffers, Zembroski, Porter and Anthony. Realistically, they are in all cases not up to League 2 standard. We are going nowhere this season now. Our form is relegation stuff. But we have done well with what we had and it's now time to take strong action and rebuild a stronger squad for next season.
Jiffy George your having a laugh Zebroski just back from injury puts 100% in with nobody to back him up with Conor long gone.
Jeffers just signed not had a full game.
Same regarding comebacks for Porter & Byron
Pipey And Flynny should of played last night.
We got Crowe for another season though yippee (Think I would prefer Pipe to stay)
Again no news on O Connor and what has happened to Jolly again great in conference found out in Divison2!!
Diabolicat not playing Jackson.
Justin great manager in conference but now being found out with the long ball when we can play good touch football, messing team up, bad timing on substiutions and so it goes on
Got to say it as I feel unfortunately.
[quote][p][bold]jiffygeorge[/bold] wrote: I agree with Justin - Pipe and Flynn should go, along with Jolley, Howe, Jeffers, Zembroski, Porter and Anthony. Realistically, they are in all cases not up to League 2 standard. We are going nowhere this season now. Our form is relegation stuff. But we have done well with what we had and it's now time to take strong action and rebuild a stronger squad for next season.[/p][/quote]Jiffy George your having a laugh Zebroski just back from injury puts 100% in with nobody to back him up with Conor long gone. Jeffers just signed not had a full game. Same regarding comebacks for Porter & Byron Pipey And Flynny should of played last night. We got Crowe for another season though yippee (Think I would prefer Pipe to stay) Again no news on O Connor and what has happened to Jolly again great in conference found out in Divison2!! Diabolicat not playing Jackson. Justin great manager in conference but now being found out with the long ball when we can play good touch football, messing team up, bad timing on substiutions and so it goes on Got to say it as I feel unfortunately. Harps62
  • Score: 2

3:16pm Wed 26 Feb 14

ex-St. Julians boy says...

What's the sense in getting rid of Flynn. He's won County two away matches this season with his goals. That's six points in the bag just down to him.
What's the sense in getting rid of Flynn. He's won County two away matches this season with his goals. That's six points in the bag just down to him. ex-St. Julians boy
  • Score: 3

3:19pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Sheep'n'wellies says...

And to make it worse scadding is off end ov season
And to make it worse scadding is off end ov season Sheep'n'wellies
  • Score: -7

3:22pm Wed 26 Feb 14

ohc says...

Sheep'n'wellies wrote:
And to make it worse scadding is off end ov season
What do you know that I don't?
[quote][p][bold]Sheep'n'wellies[/bold] wrote: And to make it worse scadding is off end ov season[/p][/quote]What do you know that I don't? ohc
  • Score: 0

3:23pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Sheep'n'wellies says...

Bit ov inside info my friend sad but true
Bit ov inside info my friend sad but true Sheep'n'wellies
  • Score: -4

3:59pm Wed 26 Feb 14

jiffygeorge says...

See I've stirred it up judging by Barrie, Adrian Williams and Harps' comments. We are all entitled to our opinions and I stick by mine.I ran my own very successful football teams for many years, so I do know a little about the game.
Anthony has been caught out by countless balls down the channels and he's been unable, as captain, to stop his defence panicking. Zembroski is a willing worker, but nothing else. Porter has always been over-rated. I may have been a bit hard on Jeffers. You're right, he hasn't had a proper chance. But I'd bet money he'll prove no better than the others.
See I've stirred it up judging by Barrie, Adrian Williams and Harps' comments. We are all entitled to our opinions and I stick by mine.I ran my own very successful football teams for many years, so I do know a little about the game. Anthony has been caught out by countless balls down the channels and he's been unable, as captain, to stop his defence panicking. Zembroski is a willing worker, but nothing else. Porter has always been over-rated. I may have been a bit hard on Jeffers. You're right, he hasn't had a proper chance. But I'd bet money he'll prove no better than the others. jiffygeorge
  • Score: -3

4:05pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Exmoor Exile says...

I'll put money on it that before too long Flynn is back. I see him as a future County manager.
I'll put money on it that before too long Flynn is back. I see him as a future County manager. Exmoor Exile
  • Score: 2

4:29pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Harps62 says...

ex-St. Julians boy wrote:
What's the sense in getting rid of Flynn. He's won County two away matches this season with his goals. That's six points in the bag just down to him.
Spot on
If you look at the goals on U tube they were terrific.
Sure he will admit his best days are now gone but he would of done better the last 2 games than the rubbish we had on the pitch.
I hope the board have not killed off this season to save money on Pipey & Flynn?
[quote][p][bold]ex-St. Julians boy[/bold] wrote: What's the sense in getting rid of Flynn. He's won County two away matches this season with his goals. That's six points in the bag just down to him.[/p][/quote]Spot on If you look at the goals on U tube they were terrific. Sure he will admit his best days are now gone but he would of done better the last 2 games than the rubbish we had on the pitch. I hope the board have not killed off this season to save money on Pipey & Flynn? Harps62
  • Score: 4

4:32pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Jimport says...

Discipline problems at the County. I think a couple of people enjoy a drink perhaps more than they should.
Discipline problems at the County. I think a couple of people enjoy a drink perhaps more than they should. Jimport
  • Score: 5

4:59pm Wed 26 Feb 14

larneman says...

Not so much a fortress, more a Santa's grotto. But lookout when the weather gets better. The fat lady is only warming up. Come County you know you can do better.
Not so much a fortress, more a Santa's grotto. But lookout when the weather gets better. The fat lady is only warming up. Come County you know you can do better. larneman
  • Score: 1

5:17pm Wed 26 Feb 14

sooty001 says...

So we could have lost 6 points in the last two games because some players are five games short of a new contract for next season.
Just what the heck it happening over RP, players not playing because we don't want to give them a contract for new season, for Gods sake sort this mess out, we don't mind losing when we have a full side out and I don't mind paying my money see us lose games but don't short change the poor supporters who by next Tuesday will have shelled out the best part of £100 in the last couple of weeks by watching the last 5 home games.
So we could have lost 6 points in the last two games because some players are five games short of a new contract for next season. Just what the heck it happening over RP, players not playing because we don't want to give them a contract for new season, for Gods sake sort this mess out, we don't mind losing when we have a full side out and I don't mind paying my money see us lose games but don't short change the poor supporters who by next Tuesday will have shelled out the best part of £100 in the last couple of weeks by watching the last 5 home games. sooty001
  • Score: 3

5:58pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Clever Trevor says...

"The Argus responded directly to fan requests this morning to investigate messageboard and terrace rumours"
You're having a laugh,who takes any notice of that drivel spewed out by UTP and his snake pit cronies,there are only about 20 who post anythng and that number is dropping weekly due to infighting.
Considering the pitch,O'connor gate,postponements,i think the season has gone really well.
"The Argus responded directly to fan requests this morning to investigate messageboard and terrace rumours" You're having a laugh,who takes any notice of that drivel spewed out by UTP and his snake pit cronies,there are only about 20 who post anythng and that number is dropping weekly due to infighting. Considering the pitch,O'connor gate,postponements,i think the season has gone really well. Clever Trevor
  • Score: 4

6:00pm Wed 26 Feb 14

llandaff says...

Adrian Williams wrote:
llandaff wrote:
Adrian Williams wrote: Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com
Well perhaps you would like to convince me otherwise. Do you mean to tell me that the obvious poor team selection, long ball tactic failure, low team morale and the nonsense of team rotation when it is not needed are perfectly acceptable and should not be questioned? My comments were carefully considered as I am not into knee jerks. (I am too old) The evidence is there for all to see.
Let me remind of your comments last week after the Oxford game as you've obviously forgotten : "County won the match as the better team despite the appalling decisions. A great result both morally and richly deserved." Yes, we've hit a poor patch of form and I'm disappointed as much as the next man by last night's result but to start questioning whether the manager is "up to it" at this stage at the first real wobble is a massive over reaction. If we finish top half this season that's a monumentally good first season back and probably a realistic level for us as a club. We may even turn it around yet and sneak a play off place and I'm sure you'll be changing your tune again. Let's not jump the gun after a few disappointing results. We win together, we lose together.
Yes I wrote that about the Oxford game and meant it. Pipe played in that game. Then in the next game he gets dropped because he has "tired legs". Do me a favour.
It is obvious that there has been some sort of falling out in the dressing room and we can now see the outcome. Pipe gets dropped after a great win and the team falls apart. We are then then told that he is not required after the end of the season. Need I say anymore.
I admire your optimism, but I have seen all this before. If both the team and the supporters are unhappy as at present then it becomes difficult to get results.
I await the manager's next move with interest but it will now be an uphill struggle for him to keep the fans on board. As for the "wobble", remember our current form is one win since December. Managers have been sacked for less. I will be there Saturday but it is getting harder to motivate myself to travel from Bristol to see the continued lethargy in the team (with the exception of the Oxford blip). I want them to do well but it is slipping away at present.
[quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]llandaff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com[/p][/quote]Well perhaps you would like to convince me otherwise. Do you mean to tell me that the obvious poor team selection, long ball tactic failure, low team morale and the nonsense of team rotation when it is not needed are perfectly acceptable and should not be questioned? My comments were carefully considered as I am not into knee jerks. (I am too old) The evidence is there for all to see.[/p][/quote]Let me remind of your comments last week after the Oxford game as you've obviously forgotten : "County won the match as the better team despite the appalling decisions. A great result both morally and richly deserved." Yes, we've hit a poor patch of form and I'm disappointed as much as the next man by last night's result but to start questioning whether the manager is "up to it" at this stage at the first real wobble is a massive over reaction. If we finish top half this season that's a monumentally good first season back and probably a realistic level for us as a club. We may even turn it around yet and sneak a play off place and I'm sure you'll be changing your tune again. Let's not jump the gun after a few disappointing results. We win together, we lose together.[/p][/quote]Yes I wrote that about the Oxford game and meant it. Pipe played in that game. Then in the next game he gets dropped because he has "tired legs". Do me a favour. It is obvious that there has been some sort of falling out in the dressing room and we can now see the outcome. Pipe gets dropped after a great win and the team falls apart. We are then then told that he is not required after the end of the season. Need I say anymore. I admire your optimism, but I have seen all this before. If both the team and the supporters are unhappy as at present then it becomes difficult to get results. I await the manager's next move with interest but it will now be an uphill struggle for him to keep the fans on board. As for the "wobble", remember our current form is one win since December. Managers have been sacked for less. I will be there Saturday but it is getting harder to motivate myself to travel from Bristol to see the continued lethargy in the team (with the exception of the Oxford blip). I want them to do well but it is slipping away at present. llandaff
  • Score: -1

6:11pm Wed 26 Feb 14

COUNTYVOICE says...

it does appear that the players are not playing for the manager at the moment.

my own theory is that the long term injured where brought back into the first team too quickly.

1. lacking match fitness
2.sticking a middle digit at the hardy souls like NAYLOR, JACKSON, & CO who guided the team to a great position when they were all out in the early part of the season

i am sure it must make these guys feel like they were stop gaps till the injured army came back and that there is no recognition of their achievements as they are dropped as soon as the injured returned to fitmess

the injured guys should prove their worth by gradually working there way back into the first team.

county do seem to be playing lke strangers in the last two games, devoid of ideas , and making too many mistakes

i v said since december that county would struggle without a recognised goal poacher. WASHINGTON was the closest we had to a striker who could upset defenses and create something. ok his finishing was a little wayward but he made things happen.

jolley has that potential but is a poor shadow of the his self last season ,
maybe conference level is the level jolley shines at , and maybe that s why wimbledon let him go last year (not knocking jolley by the way i am a big fan , but yearn for the old jolley form).

i.m sure the postponements have contributed alot to the current downturn, as well as not being able to have a settled team, as well as the decisions to drop naylor and jackson.

the stark reality is county are indeed in 9th, BUT 2 more bad games could see them drop to 22nd. as there is only 5 points between 22nd and 9th , so come on county GET BACK TO BASICS, PLAY AS A TEAM, GET BEHIND JUSTIN AND TAKE PRIDE IN PLAYING FOR NEWPORT COUNTY.

DONT LET THE SEASON GET ANY WORSE......
it does appear that the players are not playing for the manager at the moment. my own theory is that the long term injured where brought back into the first team too quickly. 1. lacking match fitness 2.sticking a middle digit at the hardy souls like NAYLOR, JACKSON, & CO who guided the team to a great position when they were all out in the early part of the season i am sure it must make these guys feel like they were stop gaps till the injured army came back and that there is no recognition of their achievements as they are dropped as soon as the injured returned to fitmess the injured guys should prove their worth by gradually working there way back into the first team. county do seem to be playing lke strangers in the last two games, devoid of ideas , and making too many mistakes i v said since december that county would struggle without a recognised goal poacher. WASHINGTON was the closest we had to a striker who could upset defenses and create something. ok his finishing was a little wayward but he made things happen. jolley has that potential but is a poor shadow of the his self last season , maybe conference level is the level jolley shines at , and maybe that s why wimbledon let him go last year (not knocking jolley by the way i am a big fan , but yearn for the old jolley form). i.m sure the postponements have contributed alot to the current downturn, as well as not being able to have a settled team, as well as the decisions to drop naylor and jackson. the stark reality is county are indeed in 9th, BUT 2 more bad games could see them drop to 22nd. as there is only 5 points between 22nd and 9th , so come on county GET BACK TO BASICS, PLAY AS A TEAM, GET BEHIND JUSTIN AND TAKE PRIDE IN PLAYING FOR NEWPORT COUNTY. DONT LET THE SEASON GET ANY WORSE...... COUNTYVOICE
  • Score: 5

6:49pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Adrian Williams says...

jiffygeorge wrote:
See I've stirred it up judging by Barrie, Adrian Williams and Harps' comments. We are all entitled to our opinions and I stick by mine.I ran my own very successful football teams for many years, so I do know a little about the game.
Anthony has been caught out by countless balls down the channels and he's been unable, as captain, to stop his defence panicking. Zembroski is a willing worker, but nothing else. Porter has always been over-rated. I may have been a bit hard on Jeffers. You're right, he hasn't had a proper chance. But I'd bet money he'll prove no better than the others.
That moment when someone digs themselves further into a hole. Seriously, if you think that Anthony and Zebroski have not been up to it the last few games I suggest you book yourself an emergency appointment at Specsavers as they've been two huge plus points coming back into the team
[quote][p][bold]jiffygeorge[/bold] wrote: See I've stirred it up judging by Barrie, Adrian Williams and Harps' comments. We are all entitled to our opinions and I stick by mine.I ran my own very successful football teams for many years, so I do know a little about the game. Anthony has been caught out by countless balls down the channels and he's been unable, as captain, to stop his defence panicking. Zembroski is a willing worker, but nothing else. Porter has always been over-rated. I may have been a bit hard on Jeffers. You're right, he hasn't had a proper chance. But I'd bet money he'll prove no better than the others.[/p][/quote]That moment when someone digs themselves further into a hole. Seriously, if you think that Anthony and Zebroski have not been up to it the last few games I suggest you book yourself an emergency appointment at Specsavers as they've been two huge plus points coming back into the team Adrian Williams
  • Score: 2

6:55pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Adrian Williams says...

llandaff wrote:
Adrian Williams wrote:
llandaff wrote:
Adrian Williams wrote: Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com
Well perhaps you would like to convince me otherwise. Do you mean to tell me that the obvious poor team selection, long ball tactic failure, low team morale and the nonsense of team rotation when it is not needed are perfectly acceptable and should not be questioned? My comments were carefully considered as I am not into knee jerks. (I am too old) The evidence is there for all to see.
Let me remind of your comments last week after the Oxford game as you've obviously forgotten : "County won the match as the better team despite the appalling decisions. A great result both morally and richly deserved." Yes, we've hit a poor patch of form and I'm disappointed as much as the next man by last night's result but to start questioning whether the manager is "up to it" at this stage at the first real wobble is a massive over reaction. If we finish top half this season that's a monumentally good first season back and probably a realistic level for us as a club. We may even turn it around yet and sneak a play off place and I'm sure you'll be changing your tune again. Let's not jump the gun after a few disappointing results. We win together, we lose together.
Yes I wrote that about the Oxford game and meant it. Pipe played in that game. Then in the next game he gets dropped because he has "tired legs". Do me a favour.
It is obvious that there has been some sort of falling out in the dressing room and we can now see the outcome. Pipe gets dropped after a great win and the team falls apart. We are then then told that he is not required after the end of the season. Need I say anymore.
I admire your optimism, but I have seen all this before. If both the team and the supporters are unhappy as at present then it becomes difficult to get results.
I await the manager's next move with interest but it will now be an uphill struggle for him to keep the fans on board. As for the "wobble", remember our current form is one win since December. Managers have been sacked for less. I will be there Saturday but it is getting harder to motivate myself to travel from Bristol to see the continued lethargy in the team (with the exception of the Oxford blip). I want them to do well but it is slipping away at present.
If you think JE deserves the sack, then frankly don't bother travelling from Bristol as we don't need fans like you
[quote][p][bold]llandaff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]llandaff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com[/p][/quote]Well perhaps you would like to convince me otherwise. Do you mean to tell me that the obvious poor team selection, long ball tactic failure, low team morale and the nonsense of team rotation when it is not needed are perfectly acceptable and should not be questioned? My comments were carefully considered as I am not into knee jerks. (I am too old) The evidence is there for all to see.[/p][/quote]Let me remind of your comments last week after the Oxford game as you've obviously forgotten : "County won the match as the better team despite the appalling decisions. A great result both morally and richly deserved." Yes, we've hit a poor patch of form and I'm disappointed as much as the next man by last night's result but to start questioning whether the manager is "up to it" at this stage at the first real wobble is a massive over reaction. If we finish top half this season that's a monumentally good first season back and probably a realistic level for us as a club. We may even turn it around yet and sneak a play off place and I'm sure you'll be changing your tune again. Let's not jump the gun after a few disappointing results. We win together, we lose together.[/p][/quote]Yes I wrote that about the Oxford game and meant it. Pipe played in that game. Then in the next game he gets dropped because he has "tired legs". Do me a favour. It is obvious that there has been some sort of falling out in the dressing room and we can now see the outcome. Pipe gets dropped after a great win and the team falls apart. We are then then told that he is not required after the end of the season. Need I say anymore. I admire your optimism, but I have seen all this before. If both the team and the supporters are unhappy as at present then it becomes difficult to get results. I await the manager's next move with interest but it will now be an uphill struggle for him to keep the fans on board. As for the "wobble", remember our current form is one win since December. Managers have been sacked for less. I will be there Saturday but it is getting harder to motivate myself to travel from Bristol to see the continued lethargy in the team (with the exception of the Oxford blip). I want them to do well but it is slipping away at present.[/p][/quote]If you think JE deserves the sack, then frankly don't bother travelling from Bristol as we don't need fans like you Adrian Williams
  • Score: 0

7:01pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Adrian Williams says...

That moment when someone digs themselves further into a hole. Seriously, if you think that Anthony and Zebroski have not been up to it the last few games I suggest you book yourself an emergency appointment at Specsavers as they've been two huge plus points coming back into the team
That moment when someone digs themselves further into a hole. Seriously, if you think that Anthony and Zebroski have not been up to it the last few games I suggest you book yourself an emergency appointment at Specsavers as they've been two huge plus points coming back into the team Adrian Williams
  • Score: 4

7:14pm Wed 26 Feb 14

cantbelieveitsnotbetter says...

When will fans stop being so fickle? I think the majority of county fans think they deserve to be playing at a higher level, probably due to the clubs past- but a club thats jumped the leagues relatively quick needs time to organise and reorganise in an ever changing environment and league.
And as for pipe et al not being good enough for this league I mean come on! remember those players for swansea who rose from lower than where county are now to cup success. just stabilise, avoid relegation, get the pond, sorry, pitch sorted and do it properly, fans wont agree but it is a business after all. Sustainability is the key I feel.
When will fans stop being so fickle? I think the majority of county fans think they deserve to be playing at a higher level, probably due to the clubs past- but a club thats jumped the leagues relatively quick needs time to organise and reorganise in an ever changing environment and league. And as for pipe et al not being good enough for this league I mean come on! remember those players for swansea who rose from lower than where county are now to cup success. just stabilise, avoid relegation, get the pond, sorry, pitch sorted and do it properly, fans wont agree but it is a business after all. Sustainability is the key I feel. cantbelieveitsnotbetter
  • Score: 7

7:22pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Adrian Williams says...

cantbelieveitsnotbet
ter
wrote:
When will fans stop being so fickle? I think the majority of county fans think they deserve to be playing at a higher level, probably due to the clubs past- but a club thats jumped the leagues relatively quick needs time to organise and reorganise in an ever changing environment and league.
And as for pipe et al not being good enough for this league I mean come on! remember those players for swansea who rose from lower than where county are now to cup success. just stabilise, avoid relegation, get the pond, sorry, pitch sorted and do it properly, fans wont agree but it is a business after all. Sustainability is the key I feel.
Somebody with some sense - spot on
[quote][p][bold]cantbelieveitsnotbet ter[/bold] wrote: When will fans stop being so fickle? I think the majority of county fans think they deserve to be playing at a higher level, probably due to the clubs past- but a club thats jumped the leagues relatively quick needs time to organise and reorganise in an ever changing environment and league. And as for pipe et al not being good enough for this league I mean come on! remember those players for swansea who rose from lower than where county are now to cup success. just stabilise, avoid relegation, get the pond, sorry, pitch sorted and do it properly, fans wont agree but it is a business after all. Sustainability is the key I feel.[/p][/quote]Somebody with some sense - spot on Adrian Williams
  • Score: 6

7:27pm Wed 26 Feb 14

sooty001 says...

When I go over on Saturday I expect to see that Pipe, Flynn, and Jackson are starting the game, because after the last two debacles they will at least give 100%. You just had that feeling that things were not right in the dressing room and with announcement today about the situation I only hope we can get this bandwagon rolling again. Come on County we know it's there just show us.
When I go over on Saturday I expect to see that Pipe, Flynn, and Jackson are starting the game, because after the last two debacles they will at least give 100%. You just had that feeling that things were not right in the dressing room and with announcement today about the situation I only hope we can get this bandwagon rolling again. Come on County we know it's there just show us. sooty001
  • Score: 6

8:11pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Harps62 says...

Adrian
Agree with most of your comments but don't tell fans to stay away because they disagree with your points.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter how strongly you disagree.
2 good wins and Justin is a hero again.
2 more poor results and I wonder what the reaction will be then
No pressure!!
Adrian Agree with most of your comments but don't tell fans to stay away because they disagree with your points. Everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter how strongly you disagree. 2 good wins and Justin is a hero again. 2 more poor results and I wonder what the reaction will be then No pressure!! Harps62
  • Score: 3

8:21pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Pianoman42 says...

Win the next two and the position will be much rosier. Back the County!

There are some good performances left, I'm sure.

They've done great really, and of course 52 points is the first target.

Just hope it doesn't go to the last game...........
Win the next two and the position will be much rosier. Back the County! There are some good performances left, I'm sure. They've done great really, and of course 52 points is the first target. Just hope it doesn't go to the last game........... Pianoman42
  • Score: 3

8:33pm Wed 26 Feb 14

llandaff says...

Adrian Williams wrote:
llandaff wrote:
Adrian Williams wrote:
llandaff wrote:
Adrian Williams wrote: Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com
Well perhaps you would like to convince me otherwise. Do you mean to tell me that the obvious poor team selection, long ball tactic failure, low team morale and the nonsense of team rotation when it is not needed are perfectly acceptable and should not be questioned? My comments were carefully considered as I am not into knee jerks. (I am too old) The evidence is there for all to see.
Let me remind of your comments last week after the Oxford game as you've obviously forgotten : "County won the match as the better team despite the appalling decisions. A great result both morally and richly deserved." Yes, we've hit a poor patch of form and I'm disappointed as much as the next man by last night's result but to start questioning whether the manager is "up to it" at this stage at the first real wobble is a massive over reaction. If we finish top half this season that's a monumentally good first season back and probably a realistic level for us as a club. We may even turn it around yet and sneak a play off place and I'm sure you'll be changing your tune again. Let's not jump the gun after a few disappointing results. We win together, we lose together.
Yes I wrote that about the Oxford game and meant it. Pipe played in that game. Then in the next game he gets dropped because he has "tired legs". Do me a favour.
It is obvious that there has been some sort of falling out in the dressing room and we can now see the outcome. Pipe gets dropped after a great win and the team falls apart. We are then then told that he is not required after the end of the season. Need I say anymore.
I admire your optimism, but I have seen all this before. If both the team and the supporters are unhappy as at present then it becomes difficult to get results.
I await the manager's next move with interest but it will now be an uphill struggle for him to keep the fans on board. As for the "wobble", remember our current form is one win since December. Managers have been sacked for less. I will be there Saturday but it is getting harder to motivate myself to travel from Bristol to see the continued lethargy in the team (with the exception of the Oxford blip). I want them to do well but it is slipping away at present.
If you think JE deserves the sack, then frankly don't bother travelling from Bristol as we don't need fans like you
Face up to reality. If this was a sales team with a similar sales performance( I managed a very successful one one for over 30 years) the manager would have been the first up the road. That is accountability in the real business world.
There is no leadership or motivation at the moment and I am afraid like it or not that is down to the manager, however much you like him.
Sniping at me will not win games.
But if you want it straight, based on the past 2 months performance this manager needs to consider his position. Has he got what it takes or not?
I will continue to travel from Bristol and hope that some of this sinks in.
And I don't need any further sniping from you Adrian.
[quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]llandaff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]llandaff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com[/p][/quote]Well perhaps you would like to convince me otherwise. Do you mean to tell me that the obvious poor team selection, long ball tactic failure, low team morale and the nonsense of team rotation when it is not needed are perfectly acceptable and should not be questioned? My comments were carefully considered as I am not into knee jerks. (I am too old) The evidence is there for all to see.[/p][/quote]Let me remind of your comments last week after the Oxford game as you've obviously forgotten : "County won the match as the better team despite the appalling decisions. A great result both morally and richly deserved." Yes, we've hit a poor patch of form and I'm disappointed as much as the next man by last night's result but to start questioning whether the manager is "up to it" at this stage at the first real wobble is a massive over reaction. If we finish top half this season that's a monumentally good first season back and probably a realistic level for us as a club. We may even turn it around yet and sneak a play off place and I'm sure you'll be changing your tune again. Let's not jump the gun after a few disappointing results. We win together, we lose together.[/p][/quote]Yes I wrote that about the Oxford game and meant it. Pipe played in that game. Then in the next game he gets dropped because he has "tired legs". Do me a favour. It is obvious that there has been some sort of falling out in the dressing room and we can now see the outcome. Pipe gets dropped after a great win and the team falls apart. We are then then told that he is not required after the end of the season. Need I say anymore. I admire your optimism, but I have seen all this before. If both the team and the supporters are unhappy as at present then it becomes difficult to get results. I await the manager's next move with interest but it will now be an uphill struggle for him to keep the fans on board. As for the "wobble", remember our current form is one win since December. Managers have been sacked for less. I will be there Saturday but it is getting harder to motivate myself to travel from Bristol to see the continued lethargy in the team (with the exception of the Oxford blip). I want them to do well but it is slipping away at present.[/p][/quote]If you think JE deserves the sack, then frankly don't bother travelling from Bristol as we don't need fans like you[/p][/quote]Face up to reality. If this was a sales team with a similar sales performance( I managed a very successful one one for over 30 years) the manager would have been the first up the road. That is accountability in the real business world. There is no leadership or motivation at the moment and I am afraid like it or not that is down to the manager, however much you like him. Sniping at me will not win games. But if you want it straight, based on the past 2 months performance this manager needs to consider his position. Has he got what it takes or not? I will continue to travel from Bristol and hope that some of this sinks in. And I don't need any further sniping from you Adrian. llandaff
  • Score: -3

9:33pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Adrian Williams says...

llandaff wrote:
Adrian Williams wrote:
llandaff wrote:
Adrian Williams wrote:
llandaff wrote:
Adrian Williams wrote: Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com
Well perhaps you would like to convince me otherwise. Do you mean to tell me that the obvious poor team selection, long ball tactic failure, low team morale and the nonsense of team rotation when it is not needed are perfectly acceptable and should not be questioned? My comments were carefully considered as I am not into knee jerks. (I am too old) The evidence is there for all to see.
Let me remind of your comments last week after the Oxford game as you've obviously forgotten : "County won the match as the better team despite the appalling decisions. A great result both morally and richly deserved." Yes, we've hit a poor patch of form and I'm disappointed as much as the next man by last night's result but to start questioning whether the manager is "up to it" at this stage at the first real wobble is a massive over reaction. If we finish top half this season that's a monumentally good first season back and probably a realistic level for us as a club. We may even turn it around yet and sneak a play off place and I'm sure you'll be changing your tune again. Let's not jump the gun after a few disappointing results. We win together, we lose together.
Yes I wrote that about the Oxford game and meant it. Pipe played in that game. Then in the next game he gets dropped because he has "tired legs". Do me a favour.
It is obvious that there has been some sort of falling out in the dressing room and we can now see the outcome. Pipe gets dropped after a great win and the team falls apart. We are then then told that he is not required after the end of the season. Need I say anymore.
I admire your optimism, but I have seen all this before. If both the team and the supporters are unhappy as at present then it becomes difficult to get results.
I await the manager's next move with interest but it will now be an uphill struggle for him to keep the fans on board. As for the "wobble", remember our current form is one win since December. Managers have been sacked for less. I will be there Saturday but it is getting harder to motivate myself to travel from Bristol to see the continued lethargy in the team (with the exception of the Oxford blip). I want them to do well but it is slipping away at present.
If you think JE deserves the sack, then frankly don't bother travelling from Bristol as we don't need fans like you
Face up to reality. If this was a sales team with a similar sales performance( I managed a very successful one one for over 30 years) the manager would have been the first up the road. That is accountability in the real business world.
There is no leadership or motivation at the moment and I am afraid like it or not that is down to the manager, however much you like him.
Sniping at me will not win games.
But if you want it straight, based on the past 2 months performance this manager needs to consider his position. Has he got what it takes or not?
I will continue to travel from Bristol and hope that some of this sinks in.
And I don't need any further sniping from you Adrian.
Check out the big "I am". I'll break down JE's performance for you shall I : in 28 months he's saved us from relegation, taken us to Wembley for the first time, taken us back there twelve months later and delivered the dream that County fans have waited 25 years. Oh and by the way : he showed us loyalty and didn't jump ship at the first offer that came in (unlike a certain other manager) ; he managed us to victory against a Championship team earlier this season; we've been in the play-off positions practically all season and he has an outstanding record in the transfer market on a limited budget. And that is EXACTLY why we need to stick by him and trust him to put things right.
[quote][p][bold]llandaff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]llandaff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]llandaff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com[/p][/quote]Well perhaps you would like to convince me otherwise. Do you mean to tell me that the obvious poor team selection, long ball tactic failure, low team morale and the nonsense of team rotation when it is not needed are perfectly acceptable and should not be questioned? My comments were carefully considered as I am not into knee jerks. (I am too old) The evidence is there for all to see.[/p][/quote]Let me remind of your comments last week after the Oxford game as you've obviously forgotten : "County won the match as the better team despite the appalling decisions. A great result both morally and richly deserved." Yes, we've hit a poor patch of form and I'm disappointed as much as the next man by last night's result but to start questioning whether the manager is "up to it" at this stage at the first real wobble is a massive over reaction. If we finish top half this season that's a monumentally good first season back and probably a realistic level for us as a club. We may even turn it around yet and sneak a play off place and I'm sure you'll be changing your tune again. Let's not jump the gun after a few disappointing results. We win together, we lose together.[/p][/quote]Yes I wrote that about the Oxford game and meant it. Pipe played in that game. Then in the next game he gets dropped because he has "tired legs". Do me a favour. It is obvious that there has been some sort of falling out in the dressing room and we can now see the outcome. Pipe gets dropped after a great win and the team falls apart. We are then then told that he is not required after the end of the season. Need I say anymore. I admire your optimism, but I have seen all this before. If both the team and the supporters are unhappy as at present then it becomes difficult to get results. I await the manager's next move with interest but it will now be an uphill struggle for him to keep the fans on board. As for the "wobble", remember our current form is one win since December. Managers have been sacked for less. I will be there Saturday but it is getting harder to motivate myself to travel from Bristol to see the continued lethargy in the team (with the exception of the Oxford blip). I want them to do well but it is slipping away at present.[/p][/quote]If you think JE deserves the sack, then frankly don't bother travelling from Bristol as we don't need fans like you[/p][/quote]Face up to reality. If this was a sales team with a similar sales performance( I managed a very successful one one for over 30 years) the manager would have been the first up the road. That is accountability in the real business world. There is no leadership or motivation at the moment and I am afraid like it or not that is down to the manager, however much you like him. Sniping at me will not win games. But if you want it straight, based on the past 2 months performance this manager needs to consider his position. Has he got what it takes or not? I will continue to travel from Bristol and hope that some of this sinks in. And I don't need any further sniping from you Adrian.[/p][/quote]Check out the big "I am". I'll break down JE's performance for you shall I : in 28 months he's saved us from relegation, taken us to Wembley for the first time, taken us back there twelve months later and delivered the dream that County fans have waited 25 years. Oh and by the way : he showed us loyalty and didn't jump ship at the first offer that came in (unlike a certain other manager) ; he managed us to victory against a Championship team earlier this season; we've been in the play-off positions practically all season and he has an outstanding record in the transfer market on a limited budget. And that is EXACTLY why we need to stick by him and trust him to put things right. Adrian Williams
  • Score: 16

9:40pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Sheep'n'wellies says...

The fact of the matter is that they are probably the top two earners at the club and with scadding off at end ov season they need to lower wage bill
The fact of the matter is that they are probably the top two earners at the club and with scadding off at end ov season they need to lower wage bill Sheep'n'wellies
  • Score: -5

9:44pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Adrian Williams says...

How do we know that Scadding is off at the end of the season ?
How do we know that Scadding is off at the end of the season ? Adrian Williams
  • Score: 1

9:46pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Sheep'n'wellies says...

Inside info can't name names but trust me he's off
Inside info can't name names but trust me he's off Sheep'n'wellies
  • Score: -5

10:12pm Wed 26 Feb 14

sooty001 says...

Sheep'n'wellies wrote:
Inside info can't name names but trust me he's off
Biggest load of cxxp that has been written on here all night, take it from me.
[quote][p][bold]Sheep'n'wellies[/bold] wrote: Inside info can't name names but trust me he's off[/p][/quote]Biggest load of cxxp that has been written on here all night, take it from me. sooty001
  • Score: 3

10:52pm Wed 26 Feb 14

jiffygeorge says...

Had my appointment at Specsavers. They said I had perfect vision. Incidentally, despite my alleged negative comments (I see them as being realistic) I have always said on these pages that JE is a top manager and I've many times agreed we have done well to be where we are. Doesn't alter the fact that County are currently playing relegation football and the players I've mentioned need to go at the end of the season. I'd also pay up Crow's contract now and let him go.
Had my appointment at Specsavers. They said I had perfect vision. Incidentally, despite my alleged negative comments (I see them as being realistic) I have always said on these pages that JE is a top manager and I've many times agreed we have done well to be where we are. Doesn't alter the fact that County are currently playing relegation football and the players I've mentioned need to go at the end of the season. I'd also pay up Crow's contract now and let him go. jiffygeorge
  • Score: 1

11:01pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Sheep'n'wellies says...

Time will tell announcement in next month
Time will tell announcement in next month Sheep'n'wellies
  • Score: -6

4:02am Thu 27 Feb 14

JimMachen says...

sooty001 wrote:
Sheep'n'wellies wrote:
Inside info can't name names but trust me he's off
Biggest load of cxxp that has been written on here all night, take it from me.
It is not impossible. When Les' appointment as Chairman was announced in this newspaper on August 24th 2012, the article included a statement from Howard Greenhaf which said of Les, "He’s taking it on until the end of the season and we’re all fully behind him and thrilled he’s come on board."

On that basis, Les has already been doing the job for nine months longer than he originally envisaged.
[quote][p][bold]sooty001[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sheep'n'wellies[/bold] wrote: Inside info can't name names but trust me he's off[/p][/quote]Biggest load of cxxp that has been written on here all night, take it from me.[/p][/quote]It is not impossible. When Les' appointment as Chairman was announced in this newspaper on August 24th 2012, the article included a statement from Howard Greenhaf which said of Les, "He’s taking it on until the end of the season and we’re all fully behind him and thrilled he’s come on board." On that basis, Les has already been doing the job for nine months longer than he originally envisaged. JimMachen
  • Score: 1

7:08am Thu 27 Feb 14

Roland Thompson-Gunner says...

It's a tough business to work in, in any capacity, and both players will be well aware of that. Early in your career you might benefit from older players having this sort of clause in their contracts, when you reach your thirties the boot might be on the other foot. Sometimes managers will take the line of resistance, sometimes they will play hardball.

I'm glad we have a manager who is prepared to play hardball, at least until the fickle halfwits convince him he's better off elsewhere. Getting it into the open now is actually doing both players a favour as well as the club.
It's a tough business to work in, in any capacity, and both players will be well aware of that. Early in your career you might benefit from older players having this sort of clause in their contracts, when you reach your thirties the boot might be on the other foot. Sometimes managers will take the line of resistance, sometimes they will play hardball. I'm glad we have a manager who is prepared to play hardball, at least until the fickle halfwits convince him he's better off elsewhere. Getting it into the open now is actually doing both players a favour as well as the club. Roland Thompson-Gunner
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9:34am Thu 27 Feb 14

llandaff says...

Adrian Williams wrote:
llandaff wrote:
Adrian Williams wrote:
llandaff wrote:
Adrian Williams wrote:
llandaff wrote:
Adrian Williams wrote: Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com
Well perhaps you would like to convince me otherwise. Do you mean to tell me that the obvious poor team selection, long ball tactic failure, low team morale and the nonsense of team rotation when it is not needed are perfectly acceptable and should not be questioned? My comments were carefully considered as I am not into knee jerks. (I am too old) The evidence is there for all to see.
Let me remind of your comments last week after the Oxford game as you've obviously forgotten : "County won the match as the better team despite the appalling decisions. A great result both morally and richly deserved." Yes, we've hit a poor patch of form and I'm disappointed as much as the next man by last night's result but to start questioning whether the manager is "up to it" at this stage at the first real wobble is a massive over reaction. If we finish top half this season that's a monumentally good first season back and probably a realistic level for us as a club. We may even turn it around yet and sneak a play off place and I'm sure you'll be changing your tune again. Let's not jump the gun after a few disappointing results. We win together, we lose together.
Yes I wrote that about the Oxford game and meant it. Pipe played in that game. Then in the next game he gets dropped because he has "tired legs". Do me a favour.
It is obvious that there has been some sort of falling out in the dressing room and we can now see the outcome. Pipe gets dropped after a great win and the team falls apart. We are then then told that he is not required after the end of the season. Need I say anymore.
I admire your optimism, but I have seen all this before. If both the team and the supporters are unhappy as at present then it becomes difficult to get results.
I await the manager's next move with interest but it will now be an uphill struggle for him to keep the fans on board. As for the "wobble", remember our current form is one win since December. Managers have been sacked for less. I will be there Saturday but it is getting harder to motivate myself to travel from Bristol to see the continued lethargy in the team (with the exception of the Oxford blip). I want them to do well but it is slipping away at present.
If you think JE deserves the sack, then frankly don't bother travelling from Bristol as we don't need fans like you
Face up to reality. If this was a sales team with a similar sales performance( I managed a very successful one one for over 30 years) the manager would have been the first up the road. That is accountability in the real business world.
There is no leadership or motivation at the moment and I am afraid like it or not that is down to the manager, however much you like him.
Sniping at me will not win games.
But if you want it straight, based on the past 2 months performance this manager needs to consider his position. Has he got what it takes or not?
I will continue to travel from Bristol and hope that some of this sinks in.
And I don't need any further sniping from you Adrian.
Check out the big "I am". I'll break down JE's performance for you shall I : in 28 months he's saved us from relegation, taken us to Wembley for the first time, taken us back there twelve months later and delivered the dream that County fans have waited 25 years. Oh and by the way : he showed us loyalty and didn't jump ship at the first offer that came in (unlike a certain other manager) ; he managed us to victory against a Championship team earlier this season; we've been in the play-off positions practically all season and he has an outstanding record in the transfer market on a limited budget. And that is EXACTLY why we need to stick by him and trust him to put things right.
Let's not trade insults here. I have a point of view just like you. If that makes me unpopular that's quite OK because I am "BIG" enough to stand by what I say!
Let's leave it at that.
[quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]llandaff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]llandaff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]llandaff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Adrian Williams[/bold] wrote: Edinburgh may not be up to the task either ? Oh dear, silly season has truly started. Kneejerkreaction.com[/p][/quote]Well perhaps you would like to convince me otherwise. Do you mean to tell me that the obvious poor team selection, long ball tactic failure, low team morale and the nonsense of team rotation when it is not needed are perfectly acceptable and should not be questioned? My comments were carefully considered as I am not into knee jerks. (I am too old) The evidence is there for all to see.[/p][/quote]Let me remind of your comments last week after the Oxford game as you've obviously forgotten : "County won the match as the better team despite the appalling decisions. A great result both morally and richly deserved." Yes, we've hit a poor patch of form and I'm disappointed as much as the next man by last night's result but to start questioning whether the manager is "up to it" at this stage at the first real wobble is a massive over reaction. If we finish top half this season that's a monumentally good first season back and probably a realistic level for us as a club. We may even turn it around yet and sneak a play off place and I'm sure you'll be changing your tune again. Let's not jump the gun after a few disappointing results. We win together, we lose together.[/p][/quote]Yes I wrote that about the Oxford game and meant it. Pipe played in that game. Then in the next game he gets dropped because he has "tired legs". Do me a favour. It is obvious that there has been some sort of falling out in the dressing room and we can now see the outcome. Pipe gets dropped after a great win and the team falls apart. We are then then told that he is not required after the end of the season. Need I say anymore. I admire your optimism, but I have seen all this before. If both the team and the supporters are unhappy as at present then it becomes difficult to get results. I await the manager's next move with interest but it will now be an uphill struggle for him to keep the fans on board. As for the "wobble", remember our current form is one win since December. Managers have been sacked for less. I will be there Saturday but it is getting harder to motivate myself to travel from Bristol to see the continued lethargy in the team (with the exception of the Oxford blip). I want them to do well but it is slipping away at present.[/p][/quote]If you think JE deserves the sack, then frankly don't bother travelling from Bristol as we don't need fans like you[/p][/quote]Face up to reality. If this was a sales team with a similar sales performance( I managed a very successful one one for over 30 years) the manager would have been the first up the road. That is accountability in the real business world. There is no leadership or motivation at the moment and I am afraid like it or not that is down to the manager, however much you like him. Sniping at me will not win games. But if you want it straight, based on the past 2 months performance this manager needs to consider his position. Has he got what it takes or not? I will continue to travel from Bristol and hope that some of this sinks in. And I don't need any further sniping from you Adrian.[/p][/quote]Check out the big "I am". I'll break down JE's performance for you shall I : in 28 months he's saved us from relegation, taken us to Wembley for the first time, taken us back there twelve months later and delivered the dream that County fans have waited 25 years. Oh and by the way : he showed us loyalty and didn't jump ship at the first offer that came in (unlike a certain other manager) ; he managed us to victory against a Championship team earlier this season; we've been in the play-off positions practically all season and he has an outstanding record in the transfer market on a limited budget. And that is EXACTLY why we need to stick by him and trust him to put things right.[/p][/quote]Let's not trade insults here. I have a point of view just like you. If that makes me unpopular that's quite OK because I am "BIG" enough to stand by what I say! Let's leave it at that. llandaff
  • Score: 1

9:48am Fri 14 Mar 14

kernowkid says...

So it looks as if David Pipe hasn't been picked for contractual reasons and not for his ability as a player. He has been the heart-beat of the club and gives the team the desire to dig out results and give their all - there's no hiding place when Pipe is on the pitch. Do the right thing and give him what he deserves: a place in the team and a contract extension. We need to keep players who have county blood running through their veins. Also why get rid of a player with Flynn's ability when there is no-one to replace him. We need players with the right attitude and commitment to the cause. Survival this season is a must! Football League status was earned the hard way over 25 years - please don't give it up by getting rid of players who care!
So it looks as if David Pipe hasn't been picked for contractual reasons and not for his ability as a player. He has been the heart-beat of the club and gives the team the desire to dig out results and give their all - there's no hiding place when Pipe is on the pitch. Do the right thing and give him what he deserves: a place in the team and a contract extension. We need to keep players who have county blood running through their veins. Also why get rid of a player with Flynn's ability when there is no-one to replace him. We need players with the right attitude and commitment to the cause. Survival this season is a must! Football League status was earned the hard way over 25 years - please don't give it up by getting rid of players who care! kernowkid
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