Unite against EU

I WENT to a newly-formed Newport UKIP branch meeting recently.

Mr David Rowlands (SE Wales branch) chaired the meeting which I found most interesting and one point did stick in my mind. UKIP wants to retain our Sovereignity and Unity but the EU aims to get division by regions in all the EU countries, which will inevitably weaken them and thereby easier to control.

I did wonder why our country was being broken up into the various regions and what for? Whilst remembering the old slogan: United we stand, divided we fall.

Is that what we want for our children and grandchildren?

Hilda Williams Laurel Rd,Bassaleg

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12:44pm Thu 19 Dec 13

On the inside says...

All the oddballs in one place eh.
All the oddballs in one place eh. On the inside

4:37pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

On the inside wrote:
All the oddballs in one place eh.
What exactly is odd ball about UKIP's policies. I would agree with you with Labours , Conservatives & Lib Dem policies though

Do please explain what these odd ball policies are as I have read their policies and have not found them
[quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: All the oddballs in one place eh.[/p][/quote]What exactly is odd ball about UKIP's policies. I would agree with you with Labours , Conservatives & Lib Dem policies though Do please explain what these odd ball policies are as I have read their policies and have not found them Bobevans

4:54pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Llanmartinangel says...

On the inside wrote:
All the oddballs in one place eh.
Anyone who has ever been to a Newport CC meeting and sat in the public gallery, as I have, listening to Labour's finest should not be bandying the term 'oddballs' around in relation to others I can tell you. Some cannot even construct a coherent sentence let alone manage a whelk stall.
[quote][p][bold]On the inside[/bold] wrote: All the oddballs in one place eh.[/p][/quote]Anyone who has ever been to a Newport CC meeting and sat in the public gallery, as I have, listening to Labour's finest should not be bandying the term 'oddballs' around in relation to others I can tell you. Some cannot even construct a coherent sentence let alone manage a whelk stall. Llanmartinangel

5:52pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Mr Angry says...

I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up
I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up Mr Angry

6:11pm Thu 19 Dec 13

welshmen says...

While UKIP answer a lot of questions too the way forward for our Country, the British National Party have the policies that will make the Country reorganise it's cultural values and move forward with Industries Utilities and the best, "Made in Great Britain".

As well as getting this Country out of the European Union and STOP all immigration except in some cases, unlike Ukip who want us out of the EU but still want immigration, Ukips 50,000 immigrants over net is still 50,000 to many, we know we haven't the infrastructure in place to accommodate any more, schools are busting waiting times to see a consultant at the NHS takes ages.

Our nurses are under staffed and the Managers are over staffed, out of 3000 managers laid off last year with pay off's totalling £7 Million, 2850 were taken back, either into the NHS or it's subsidiaries.

If you cant see what immigration is doing to our Country is like having your head buried in the sand, immigration doesn't work for our young or old, it takes the jobs our young used to do, the NHS costs have nearly trebled since the start of the Labour led invasion of our Country from 1997 from £55 billion then 4.5 million immigrants (many more illegals) 2008 £125 billion, a lot of the costs are not our old people who have paid into our Country all their lives as the Government will have you believe, its the foreign tourists and immigrant brought here along with TB and (Aids) HIV.

The British National Party are also going to tackle the problem in our Country with Islam and Foreign wars that don't concern us, anyone can join the BNP, the web site is worth a look, don't believe everything the MEDIA print.

Past and present Governments have tried to destroyed our life style and Culture by immigration, to many to quick, it has driven hourly rates down, money that should be spent in this Country is sent out to the immigrants homeland as well as child benefits, our Countries National debt is £129 trillion, borrowing will not stop, the debt will get bigger not less, that is unless the Government have the courage to reduce and get rid off our National debt, this Government hasn't the courage to do that, they rely on all the MONEY men to get elected, whether a Banker or a Union, the Labour Conservative, Liberal and Ukip rely on people with an agenda to recover that money they invest in either of the Parties, those parties also have one thing in common with each other, they ALL look after their selves FIRST unlike the British National Party, British People first all the time, courage is needed by the public to put British people first at the next Election and vote BNP for Britain, if important security issues are not dealt with shortly, our Country will not be a nice place to live....
While UKIP answer a lot of questions too the way forward for our Country, the British National Party have the policies that will make the Country reorganise it's cultural values and move forward with Industries Utilities and the best, "Made in Great Britain". As well as getting this Country out of the European Union and STOP all immigration except in some cases, unlike Ukip who want us out of the EU but still want immigration, Ukips 50,000 immigrants over net is still 50,000 to many, we know we haven't the infrastructure in place to accommodate any more, schools are busting waiting times to see a consultant at the NHS takes ages. Our nurses are under staffed and the Managers are over staffed, out of 3000 managers laid off last year with pay off's totalling £7 Million, 2850 were taken back, either into the NHS or it's subsidiaries. If you cant see what immigration is doing to our Country is like having your head buried in the sand, immigration doesn't work for our young or old, it takes the jobs our young used to do, the NHS costs have nearly trebled since the start of the Labour led invasion of our Country from 1997 from £55 billion then 4.5 million immigrants (many more illegals) 2008 £125 billion, a lot of the costs are not our old people who have paid into our Country all their lives as the Government will have you believe, its the foreign tourists and immigrant brought here along with TB and (Aids) HIV. The British National Party are also going to tackle the problem in our Country with Islam and Foreign wars that don't concern us, anyone can join the BNP, the web site is worth a look, don't believe everything the MEDIA print. Past and present Governments have tried to destroyed our life style and Culture by immigration, to many to quick, it has driven hourly rates down, money that should be spent in this Country is sent out to the immigrants homeland as well as child benefits, our Countries National debt is £129 trillion, borrowing will not stop, the debt will get bigger not less, that is unless the Government have the courage to reduce and get rid off our National debt, this Government hasn't the courage to do that, they rely on all the MONEY men to get elected, whether a Banker or a Union, the Labour Conservative, Liberal and Ukip rely on people with an agenda to recover that money they invest in either of the Parties, those parties also have one thing in common with each other, they ALL look after their selves FIRST unlike the British National Party, British People first all the time, courage is needed by the public to put British people first at the next Election and vote BNP for Britain, if important security issues are not dealt with shortly, our Country will not be a nice place to live.... welshmen

8:48am Fri 20 Dec 13

Mervyn James says...

The inequality of migration is in full focus, the UK puts up real barriers to real professionals OUTSIDE Europe to come here, yet allows all the europeans to come here and take british jobs and send money out of the UK. Europe IS bleeding the UK dry, if they are doing so well in the federal status why are their people leaving to come here ?

Like other readers, I agree jobs (like charity), should stay and remain HERE and our people given priority. One poster said we have 2m working there, many are the professionals we need, driven OUT by UK intransengy on taxes and wages, and employer greed to rip off european workers for a pittance. It;s not helped by all work stopping outside the SE of England either.

The rest of the UK exploited by a bizarre statistical game based on southern england. IT is right we put an end to being exploited by our own government its business friends, and a corrupt europe we went to war with twice already. And had to sort out their murderous factionalism. Bulgaria and romania will turn the UK into a nation-sized travellers camp.
The inequality of migration is in full focus, the UK puts up real barriers to real professionals OUTSIDE Europe to come here, yet allows all the europeans to come here and take british jobs and send money out of the UK. Europe IS bleeding the UK dry, if they are doing so well in the federal status why are their people leaving to come here ? Like other readers, I agree jobs (like charity), should stay and remain HERE and our people given priority. One poster said we have 2m working there, many are the professionals we need, driven OUT by UK intransengy on taxes and wages, and employer greed to rip off european workers for a pittance. It;s not helped by all work stopping outside the SE of England either. The rest of the UK exploited by a bizarre statistical game based on southern england. IT is right we put an end to being exploited by our own government its business friends, and a corrupt europe we went to war with twice already. And had to sort out their murderous factionalism. Bulgaria and romania will turn the UK into a nation-sized travellers camp. Mervyn James

9:15am Fri 20 Dec 13

Mr Angry says...

Mervyn James wrote:
The inequality of migration is in full focus, the UK puts up real barriers to real professionals OUTSIDE Europe to come here, yet allows all the europeans to come here and take british jobs and send money out of the UK. Europe IS bleeding the UK dry, if they are doing so well in the federal status why are their people leaving to come here ? Like other readers, I agree jobs (like charity), should stay and remain HERE and our people given priority. One poster said we have 2m working there, many are the professionals we need, driven OUT by UK intransengy on taxes and wages, and employer greed to rip off european workers for a pittance. It;s not helped by all work stopping outside the SE of England either. The rest of the UK exploited by a bizarre statistical game based on southern england. IT is right we put an end to being exploited by our own government its business friends, and a corrupt europe we went to war with twice already. And had to sort out their murderous factionalism. Bulgaria and romania will turn the UK into a nation-sized travellers camp.
If I wanted to go and live and work in anotherEU country, ( I dont by the way, but there are others who do ) who are UKIP, or anyone else for that matter to say to me - no you can't , you must stay here ?
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: The inequality of migration is in full focus, the UK puts up real barriers to real professionals OUTSIDE Europe to come here, yet allows all the europeans to come here and take british jobs and send money out of the UK. Europe IS bleeding the UK dry, if they are doing so well in the federal status why are their people leaving to come here ? Like other readers, I agree jobs (like charity), should stay and remain HERE and our people given priority. One poster said we have 2m working there, many are the professionals we need, driven OUT by UK intransengy on taxes and wages, and employer greed to rip off european workers for a pittance. It;s not helped by all work stopping outside the SE of England either. The rest of the UK exploited by a bizarre statistical game based on southern england. IT is right we put an end to being exploited by our own government its business friends, and a corrupt europe we went to war with twice already. And had to sort out their murderous factionalism. Bulgaria and romania will turn the UK into a nation-sized travellers camp.[/p][/quote]If I wanted to go and live and work in anotherEU country, ( I dont by the way, but there are others who do ) who are UKIP, or anyone else for that matter to say to me - no you can't , you must stay here ? Mr Angry

10:43am Fri 20 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

Mr Angry wrote:
I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up
You are talking total fiction. UKIP's policy is to have controlled migration.
The legislation will not be retrospective so no one currently in the UK legally would be thrown out nor would any British people in Spain legally be thrown out

I am afraid you are demonstrating that it is you that are the idiot
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up[/p][/quote]You are talking total fiction. UKIP's policy is to have controlled migration. The legislation will not be retrospective so no one currently in the UK legally would be thrown out nor would any British people in Spain legally be thrown out I am afraid you are demonstrating that it is you that are the idiot Bobevans

10:45am Fri 20 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

Mr Angry wrote:
Mervyn James wrote:
The inequality of migration is in full focus, the UK puts up real barriers to real professionals OUTSIDE Europe to come here, yet allows all the europeans to come here and take british jobs and send money out of the UK. Europe IS bleeding the UK dry, if they are doing so well in the federal status why are their people leaving to come here ? Like other readers, I agree jobs (like charity), should stay and remain HERE and our people given priority. One poster said we have 2m working there, many are the professionals we need, driven OUT by UK intransengy on taxes and wages, and employer greed to rip off european workers for a pittance. It;s not helped by all work stopping outside the SE of England either. The rest of the UK exploited by a bizarre statistical game based on southern england. IT is right we put an end to being exploited by our own government its business friends, and a corrupt europe we went to war with twice already. And had to sort out their murderous factionalism. Bulgaria and romania will turn the UK into a nation-sized travellers camp.
If I wanted to go and live and work in anotherEU country, ( I dont by the way, but there are others who do ) who are UKIP, or anyone else for that matter to say to me - no you can't , you must stay here ?
UKIP are not saying you have to stay in the UK you would still be free to go abroad if you so wished and met that countries criteria
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: The inequality of migration is in full focus, the UK puts up real barriers to real professionals OUTSIDE Europe to come here, yet allows all the europeans to come here and take british jobs and send money out of the UK. Europe IS bleeding the UK dry, if they are doing so well in the federal status why are their people leaving to come here ? Like other readers, I agree jobs (like charity), should stay and remain HERE and our people given priority. One poster said we have 2m working there, many are the professionals we need, driven OUT by UK intransengy on taxes and wages, and employer greed to rip off european workers for a pittance. It;s not helped by all work stopping outside the SE of England either. The rest of the UK exploited by a bizarre statistical game based on southern england. IT is right we put an end to being exploited by our own government its business friends, and a corrupt europe we went to war with twice already. And had to sort out their murderous factionalism. Bulgaria and romania will turn the UK into a nation-sized travellers camp.[/p][/quote]If I wanted to go and live and work in anotherEU country, ( I dont by the way, but there are others who do ) who are UKIP, or anyone else for that matter to say to me - no you can't , you must stay here ?[/p][/quote]UKIP are not saying you have to stay in the UK you would still be free to go abroad if you so wished and met that countries criteria Bobevans

11:31am Fri 20 Dec 13

Mr Angry says...

Bobevans wrote:
Mr Angry wrote: I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up
You are talking total fiction. UKIP's policy is to have controlled migration. The legislation will not be retrospective so no one currently in the UK legally would be thrown out nor would any British people in Spain legally be thrown out I am afraid you are demonstrating that it is you that are the idiot
You are the biggest idiot ever to post on these boards.
Once the UK is outside the EU , UK citizens will loose the right to live and work in other EU countries, and these Countries would be entitled to expell non EU citizens.

The EU would not make it easy in the unlikely event of Faraghe and his racist biggots getting any where near power.
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up[/p][/quote]You are talking total fiction. UKIP's policy is to have controlled migration. The legislation will not be retrospective so no one currently in the UK legally would be thrown out nor would any British people in Spain legally be thrown out I am afraid you are demonstrating that it is you that are the idiot[/p][/quote]You are the biggest idiot ever to post on these boards. Once the UK is outside the EU , UK citizens will loose the right to live and work in other EU countries, and these Countries would be entitled to expell non EU citizens. The EU would not make it easy in the unlikely event of Faraghe and his racist biggots getting any where near power. Mr Angry

11:33am Fri 20 Dec 13

Mr Angry says...

Bobevans wrote:
Mr Angry wrote:
Mervyn James wrote: The inequality of migration is in full focus, the UK puts up real barriers to real professionals OUTSIDE Europe to come here, yet allows all the europeans to come here and take british jobs and send money out of the UK. Europe IS bleeding the UK dry, if they are doing so well in the federal status why are their people leaving to come here ? Like other readers, I agree jobs (like charity), should stay and remain HERE and our people given priority. One poster said we have 2m working there, many are the professionals we need, driven OUT by UK intransengy on taxes and wages, and employer greed to rip off european workers for a pittance. It;s not helped by all work stopping outside the SE of England either. The rest of the UK exploited by a bizarre statistical game based on southern england. IT is right we put an end to being exploited by our own government its business friends, and a corrupt europe we went to war with twice already. And had to sort out their murderous factionalism. Bulgaria and romania will turn the UK into a nation-sized travellers camp.
If I wanted to go and live and work in anotherEU country, ( I dont by the way, but there are others who do ) who are UKIP, or anyone else for that matter to say to me - no you can't , you must stay here ?
UKIP are not saying you have to stay in the UK you would still be free to go abroad if you so wished and met that countries criteria
Id have to apply for work permits and other paperwork , it would nt be a right - get it , or is it too much for you to understand ?
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: The inequality of migration is in full focus, the UK puts up real barriers to real professionals OUTSIDE Europe to come here, yet allows all the europeans to come here and take british jobs and send money out of the UK. Europe IS bleeding the UK dry, if they are doing so well in the federal status why are their people leaving to come here ? Like other readers, I agree jobs (like charity), should stay and remain HERE and our people given priority. One poster said we have 2m working there, many are the professionals we need, driven OUT by UK intransengy on taxes and wages, and employer greed to rip off european workers for a pittance. It;s not helped by all work stopping outside the SE of England either. The rest of the UK exploited by a bizarre statistical game based on southern england. IT is right we put an end to being exploited by our own government its business friends, and a corrupt europe we went to war with twice already. And had to sort out their murderous factionalism. Bulgaria and romania will turn the UK into a nation-sized travellers camp.[/p][/quote]If I wanted to go and live and work in anotherEU country, ( I dont by the way, but there are others who do ) who are UKIP, or anyone else for that matter to say to me - no you can't , you must stay here ?[/p][/quote]UKIP are not saying you have to stay in the UK you would still be free to go abroad if you so wished and met that countries criteria[/p][/quote]Id have to apply for work permits and other paperwork , it would nt be a right - get it , or is it too much for you to understand ? Mr Angry

12:43pm Fri 20 Dec 13

_Bryan_ says...

If the UK were to leave the EU, it would stop the right of UK citizens from gaining employment with the remaining EU countries without first gaining a work permit. This is not the same thing as banning UK citizens from working there.

A large number of UK citizens are currently working in America, Australia and New Zealand without any difficulty, despite these countries not being a part of the EU. This is the process that would be followed for UK citizens wishing to work in spain, France etc. if we were to withdraw from the EU.
If the UK were to leave the EU, it would stop the right of UK citizens from gaining employment with the remaining EU countries without first gaining a work permit. This is not the same thing as banning UK citizens from working there. A large number of UK citizens are currently working in America, Australia and New Zealand without any difficulty, despite these countries not being a part of the EU. This is the process that would be followed for UK citizens wishing to work in spain, France etc. if we were to withdraw from the EU. _Bryan_

2:22pm Fri 20 Dec 13

welshmen says...

Mr Angry wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
Mr Angry wrote: I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up
You are talking total fiction. UKIP's policy is to have controlled migration. The legislation will not be retrospective so no one currently in the UK legally would be thrown out nor would any British people in Spain legally be thrown out I am afraid you are demonstrating that it is you that are the idiot
You are the biggest idiot ever to post on these boards.
Once the UK is outside the EU , UK citizens will loose the right to live and work in other EU countries, and these Countries would be entitled to expell non EU citizens.

The EU would not make it easy in the unlikely event of Faraghe and his racist biggots getting any where near power.
Your every quick with the RACIST word when anyone mentions immigration, you don't like the truth about the continuing decline of living standards in our Country, perhaps it's people like you who voted for the flooding of our Country with unskilled labour, a big mistake.

The clue is in the word, WORKING, 2 million PAYING their way and living in other EU countries, Brits have Retired to Spain and Italy PAYING their WAY for years PAYING their WAY, they form a big part of Spain's and Italys' income, when Xpats have visitor's for a few weeks a year they don't claim asylum or chuck their passports away and expect everything for nothing for them and their kids, latter on all the rest of the Family expecting to receive full old age pensions free NHS even though they haven't paid into our Country, I would suggest to you, give half your wage and pension to an asylum seeker and all his or her family, better still do what you expect everybody else to do move them into your house, you have a big house you could take Roma family in, there's 20 living in a house two doors away from where I live, their looking for a bigger place, they say they have more family coming after the New year.

Your also quick to insult other posters on here who have a different out look to you, manners are expected in life and on this site, stop being disrespectful, people are not biggot's just because they have concerns for our Country, perhaps your an Immigrant in our Country and your trying to get more in here so you argue against anyone with a negative on Immigrants, it's plain to see you want them, I and millions of British people don't, fascists,racist and British haters are running our Country its called the Coalition Government....
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up[/p][/quote]You are talking total fiction. UKIP's policy is to have controlled migration. The legislation will not be retrospective so no one currently in the UK legally would be thrown out nor would any British people in Spain legally be thrown out I am afraid you are demonstrating that it is you that are the idiot[/p][/quote]You are the biggest idiot ever to post on these boards. Once the UK is outside the EU , UK citizens will loose the right to live and work in other EU countries, and these Countries would be entitled to expell non EU citizens. The EU would not make it easy in the unlikely event of Faraghe and his racist biggots getting any where near power.[/p][/quote]Your every quick with the RACIST word when anyone mentions immigration, you don't like the truth about the continuing decline of living standards in our Country, perhaps it's people like you who voted for the flooding of our Country with unskilled labour, a big mistake. The clue is in the word, WORKING, 2 million PAYING their way and living in other EU countries, Brits have Retired to Spain and Italy PAYING their WAY for years PAYING their WAY, they form a big part of Spain's and Italys' income, when Xpats have visitor's for a few weeks a year they don't claim asylum or chuck their passports away and expect everything for nothing for them and their kids, latter on all the rest of the Family expecting to receive full old age pensions free NHS even though they haven't paid into our Country, I would suggest to you, give half your wage and pension to an asylum seeker and all his or her family, better still do what you expect everybody else to do move them into your house, you have a big house you could take Roma family in, there's 20 living in a house two doors away from where I live, their looking for a bigger place, they say they have more family coming after the New year. Your also quick to insult other posters on here who have a different out look to you, manners are expected in life and on this site, stop being disrespectful, people are not biggot's just because they have concerns for our Country, perhaps your an Immigrant in our Country and your trying to get more in here so you argue against anyone with a negative on Immigrants, it's plain to see you want them, I and millions of British people don't, fascists,racist and British haters are running our Country its called the Coalition Government.... welshmen

4:50pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Mr Angry says...

welshmen wrote:
Mr Angry wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
Mr Angry wrote: I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up
You are talking total fiction. UKIP's policy is to have controlled migration. The legislation will not be retrospective so no one currently in the UK legally would be thrown out nor would any British people in Spain legally be thrown out I am afraid you are demonstrating that it is you that are the idiot
You are the biggest idiot ever to post on these boards.
Once the UK is outside the EU , UK citizens will loose the right to live and work in other EU countries, and these Countries would be entitled to expell non EU citizens.

The EU would not make it easy in the unlikely event of Faraghe and his racist biggots getting any where near power.
Your every quick with the RACIST word when anyone mentions immigration, you don't like the truth about the continuing decline of living standards in our Country, perhaps it's people like you who voted for the flooding of our Country with unskilled labour, a big mistake.

The clue is in the word, WORKING, 2 million PAYING their way and living in other EU countries, Brits have Retired to Spain and Italy PAYING their WAY for years PAYING their WAY, they form a big part of Spain's and Italys' income, when Xpats have visitor's for a few weeks a year they don't claim asylum or chuck their passports away and expect everything for nothing for them and their kids, latter on all the rest of the Family expecting to receive full old age pensions free NHS even though they haven't paid into our Country, I would suggest to you, give half your wage and pension to an asylum seeker and all his or her family, better still do what you expect everybody else to do move them into your house, you have a big house you could take Roma family in, there's 20 living in a house two doors away from where I live, their looking for a bigger place, they say they have more family coming after the New year.

Your also quick to insult other posters on here who have a different out look to you, manners are expected in life and on this site, stop being disrespectful, people are not biggot's just because they have concerns for our Country, perhaps your an Immigrant in our Country and your trying to get more in here so you argue against anyone with a negative on Immigrants, it's plain to see you want them, I and millions of British people don't, fascists,racist and British haters are running our Country its called the Coalition Government....
I dont think you are in a position to lecture me on manners
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up[/p][/quote]You are talking total fiction. UKIP's policy is to have controlled migration. The legislation will not be retrospective so no one currently in the UK legally would be thrown out nor would any British people in Spain legally be thrown out I am afraid you are demonstrating that it is you that are the idiot[/p][/quote]You are the biggest idiot ever to post on these boards. Once the UK is outside the EU , UK citizens will loose the right to live and work in other EU countries, and these Countries would be entitled to expell non EU citizens. The EU would not make it easy in the unlikely event of Faraghe and his racist biggots getting any where near power.[/p][/quote]Your every quick with the RACIST word when anyone mentions immigration, you don't like the truth about the continuing decline of living standards in our Country, perhaps it's people like you who voted for the flooding of our Country with unskilled labour, a big mistake. The clue is in the word, WORKING, 2 million PAYING their way and living in other EU countries, Brits have Retired to Spain and Italy PAYING their WAY for years PAYING their WAY, they form a big part of Spain's and Italys' income, when Xpats have visitor's for a few weeks a year they don't claim asylum or chuck their passports away and expect everything for nothing for them and their kids, latter on all the rest of the Family expecting to receive full old age pensions free NHS even though they haven't paid into our Country, I would suggest to you, give half your wage and pension to an asylum seeker and all his or her family, better still do what you expect everybody else to do move them into your house, you have a big house you could take Roma family in, there's 20 living in a house two doors away from where I live, their looking for a bigger place, they say they have more family coming after the New year. Your also quick to insult other posters on here who have a different out look to you, manners are expected in life and on this site, stop being disrespectful, people are not biggot's just because they have concerns for our Country, perhaps your an Immigrant in our Country and your trying to get more in here so you argue against anyone with a negative on Immigrants, it's plain to see you want them, I and millions of British people don't, fascists,racist and British haters are running our Country its called the Coalition Government....[/p][/quote]I dont think you are in a position to lecture me on manners Mr Angry

11:14am Sat 21 Dec 13

pwlldu says...

Beware the UKIP candidates bearing English nationalism.
Beware the UKIP candidates bearing English nationalism. pwlldu

9:26am Sun 22 Dec 13

Llanmartinangel says...

pwlldu wrote:
Beware the UKIP candidates bearing English nationalism.
You can't have it both ways. You can't keep taking £10b a year off English taxpayers to fund Wales and then bang on about Welsh nationalism.
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: Beware the UKIP candidates bearing English nationalism.[/p][/quote]You can't have it both ways. You can't keep taking £10b a year off English taxpayers to fund Wales and then bang on about Welsh nationalism. Llanmartinangel

12:02pm Sun 22 Dec 13

varteg1 says...

pwlldu and Lalanmartin.....


You are talking chalk and cheese, they both look alike but are totally different otherwise.

Maybe pwll you should have said British nationalism, the feelings of UKIP unfortunately are nation wide, not just on the other side of the Dyke. and llan argue for subsidy based on need, not the demands of a bunch of local nationalists with a stupid and unattainable agenda..
pwlldu and Lalanmartin..... You are talking chalk and cheese, they both look alike but are totally different otherwise. Maybe pwll you should have said British nationalism, the feelings of UKIP unfortunately are nation wide, not just on the other side of the Dyke. and llan argue for subsidy based on need, not the demands of a bunch of local nationalists with a stupid and unattainable agenda.. varteg1

9:19am Mon 23 Dec 13

pwlldu says...

Llanmartinangel says...

pwlldu wrote:
Beware the UKIP candidates bearing English nationalism.

You can't have it both ways. You can't keep taking £10b a year off English taxpayers to fund Wales and then bang on about Welsh nationalism.

You say that as if Wales don't contribute to thw Welsh Assembly money. Then there is Welsh budget facing further £1.5bn of cuts, warns IFS. A second report, for the same conference, warned funding pressures and rising demand could mean Welsh public services facing a funding gap of between £2.5bn and £4.6bn by 2025. So in 10 years time Wales will have even less.
Geosaurusrex, Cardiff, United Kingdom, 11 months ago
Are you people really that stupid? Yes, Welsh people pay tax, and no, we don't get free university fees. We're not being "subsidised" by the English, the fact is, that we don't earn as much money as the English do,

TIN, WALES, 11 months ago
DAIBOY GOTHENBURG I dont know why you have been red arrowed but I will educate you...Wales are the true inhabitants of the country Welsh IS the oldest language in europe we are a proud nation calling us English would be like me calling you Dannish.... Lots of people I know could be in the 40% tax bracket if they wish but you will find before April they will take time of work and stay under it .Pay 40% tax to the goverment or go skiing for a couple of weeks the bags are packed flight and hotel booked see on the piste.....
Llanmartinangel says... pwlldu wrote: Beware the UKIP candidates bearing English nationalism. You can't have it both ways. You can't keep taking £10b a year off English taxpayers to fund Wales and then bang on about Welsh nationalism. You say that as if Wales don't contribute to thw Welsh Assembly money. Then there is Welsh budget facing further £1.5bn of cuts, warns IFS. A second report, for the same conference, warned funding pressures and rising demand could mean Welsh public services facing a funding gap of between £2.5bn and £4.6bn by 2025. So in 10 years time Wales will have even less. Geosaurusrex, Cardiff, United Kingdom, 11 months ago Are you people really that stupid? Yes, Welsh people pay tax, and no, we don't get free university fees. We're not being "subsidised" by the English, the fact is, that we don't earn as much money as the English do, TIN, WALES, 11 months ago DAIBOY GOTHENBURG I dont know why you have been red arrowed but I will educate you...Wales are the true inhabitants of the country Welsh IS the oldest language in europe we are a proud nation calling us English would be like me calling you Dannish.... Lots of people I know could be in the 40% tax bracket if they wish but you will find before April [begining of new tax year] they will take time of work and stay under it .Pay 40% tax to the goverment or go skiing for a couple of weeks the bags are packed flight and hotel booked see on the piste..... pwlldu

10:24am Mon 23 Dec 13

pwlldu says...

Llanmartinangel says...
You can't have it both ways. You can't keep taking £10b a year off English taxpayers to fund Wales and then bang on about Welsh nationalism.

We sell Welsh water to English areas and charge a fairer price. At the moment Wales still pay more than England. Re-nationalise a lot of industries from coal to the railway. Built one more nuclear plant, to secure our energy needs.
Llanmartinangel says... You can't have it both ways. You can't keep taking £10b a year off English taxpayers to fund Wales and then bang on about Welsh nationalism. We sell Welsh water to English areas and charge a fairer price. At the moment Wales still pay more than England. Re-nationalise a lot of industries from coal to the railway. Built one more nuclear plant, to secure our energy needs. pwlldu

12:22pm Mon 23 Dec 13

blackandamber says...

For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted. On top of this, they now learn that a one-way privilege is to be established by Act of Parliament; a law which cannot, and is not intended to, operate to protect them or redress their grievances, is to be enacted to give the stranger, the disgruntled and the agent provocateur the power to pillory them for their private actions.

Just a portion of a speech made by someone far more intteligent than me.
For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted. On top of this, they now learn that a one-way privilege is to be established by Act of Parliament; a law which cannot, and is not intended to, operate to protect them or redress their grievances, is to be enacted to give the stranger, the disgruntled and the agent provocateur the power to pillory them for their private actions.[8] Just a portion of a speech made by someone far more intteligent than me. blackandamber

3:28pm Mon 23 Dec 13

welshmen says...

blackandamber wrote:
For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted. On top of this, they now learn that a one-way privilege is to be established by Act of Parliament; a law which cannot, and is not intended to, operate to protect them or redress their grievances, is to be enacted to give the stranger, the disgruntled and the agent provocateur the power to pillory them for their private actions.

Just a portion of a speech made by someone far more intteligent than me.
How true:
The capitulation of once a proud British Nation, having been battered with Political Correct baseball bat for many years and taking the fight out of the last men standing with this new gagging law, the Government rejoice, they can continue their top aim to make Multiculturalism work, if we agree, or not, the fight continues, if they want Radical hate preachers banned from our Country do the same as done to American Anti IsIamic preacher Pamela Geller, don't issue a visor....
[quote][p][bold]blackandamber[/bold] wrote: For reasons which they could not comprehend, and in pursuance of a decision by default, on which they were never consulted, they found themselves made strangers in their own country. They found their wives unable to obtain hospital beds in childbirth, their children unable to obtain school places, their homes and neighbourhoods changed beyond recognition, their plans and prospects for the future defeated; at work they found that employers hesitated to apply to the immigrant worker the standards of discipline and competence required of the native-born worker; they began to hear, as time went by, more and more voices which told them that they were now the unwanted. On top of this, they now learn that a one-way privilege is to be established by Act of Parliament; a law which cannot, and is not intended to, operate to protect them or redress their grievances, is to be enacted to give the stranger, the disgruntled and the agent provocateur the power to pillory them for their private actions.[8] Just a portion of a speech made by someone far more intteligent than me.[/p][/quote]How true: The capitulation of once a proud British Nation, having been battered with Political Correct baseball bat for many years and taking the fight out of the last men standing with this new gagging law, the Government rejoice, they can continue their top aim to make Multiculturalism work, if we agree, or not, the fight continues, if they want Radical hate preachers banned from our Country do the same as done to American Anti IsIamic preacher Pamela Geller, don't issue a visor.... welshmen

9:53pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Llanmartinangel says...

pwlldu wrote:
Llanmartinangel says...
You can't have it both ways. You can't keep taking £10b a year off English taxpayers to fund Wales and then bang on about Welsh nationalism.

We sell Welsh water to English areas and charge a fairer price. At the moment Wales still pay more than England. Re-nationalise a lot of industries from coal to the railway. Built one more nuclear plant, to secure our energy needs.
For a start there is no national grid for water. You can only sell it so far into England. Price it to high and Birmingham will be able to afford a pipeline from the Lake District for less. Around 40% of the charge is drainage anyway which those English places get for nothing so Wales can't charge. As for nationalising anything well where will you get the money? And even if you did, where would the investment for the future come from? Christ you are naive.
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: Llanmartinangel says... You can't have it both ways. You can't keep taking £10b a year off English taxpayers to fund Wales and then bang on about Welsh nationalism. We sell Welsh water to English areas and charge a fairer price. At the moment Wales still pay more than England. Re-nationalise a lot of industries from coal to the railway. Built one more nuclear plant, to secure our energy needs.[/p][/quote]For a start there is no national grid for water. You can only sell it so far into England. Price it to high and Birmingham will be able to afford a pipeline from the Lake District for less. Around 40% of the charge is drainage anyway which those English places get for nothing so Wales can't charge. As for nationalising anything well where will you get the money? And even if you did, where would the investment for the future come from? Christ you are naive. Llanmartinangel

8:03am Tue 24 Dec 13

pwlldu says...

Do we seriously believe that Tom Clarke, Sean McDermott, Patrick Pearse, Joseph Plunkett, James Connolly and other leaders of the Easter Rising in Ireland discussed the planning of the Easter Rising then said “Hold on, how do we resolve the funding gap? Let’s wait a generation”, or more relevant maybe what if Vaclav Havel and the student movement in the then Czechoslovakia decided to hold off the velvet revolution for a generation because of the ‘funding gap

They didn’t because there was a fundamental principle at play, that of the right to self-determination Copyright David Cameron vis-à-vis The Malvinas/Falkland Islands.
Do we seriously believe that Tom Clarke, Sean McDermott, Patrick Pearse, Joseph Plunkett, James Connolly and other leaders of the Easter Rising in Ireland discussed the planning of the Easter Rising then said “Hold on, how do we resolve the funding gap? Let’s wait a generation”, or more relevant maybe what if Vaclav Havel and the student movement in the then Czechoslovakia decided to hold off the velvet revolution for a generation because of the ‘funding gap They didn’t because there was a fundamental principle at play, that of the right to self-determination Copyright David Cameron vis-à-vis The Malvinas/Falkland Islands. pwlldu

8:04am Tue 24 Dec 13

pwlldu says...

Llanmartinangel says... Its narrow minded thinking from people like you who thought the world was flat.
Llanmartinangel says... Its narrow minded thinking from people like you who thought the world was flat. pwlldu

8:28am Tue 24 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

Mr Angry wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
Mr Angry wrote: I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up
You are talking total fiction. UKIP's policy is to have controlled migration. The legislation will not be retrospective so no one currently in the UK legally would be thrown out nor would any British people in Spain legally be thrown out I am afraid you are demonstrating that it is you that are the idiot
You are the biggest idiot ever to post on these boards.
Once the UK is outside the EU , UK citizens will loose the right to live and work in other EU countries, and these Countries would be entitled to expell non EU citizens.

The EU would not make it easy in the unlikely event of Faraghe and his racist biggots getting any where near power.
Do please name any of their racists policies because they have non
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up[/p][/quote]You are talking total fiction. UKIP's policy is to have controlled migration. The legislation will not be retrospective so no one currently in the UK legally would be thrown out nor would any British people in Spain legally be thrown out I am afraid you are demonstrating that it is you that are the idiot[/p][/quote]You are the biggest idiot ever to post on these boards. Once the UK is outside the EU , UK citizens will loose the right to live and work in other EU countries, and these Countries would be entitled to expell non EU citizens. The EU would not make it easy in the unlikely event of Faraghe and his racist biggots getting any where near power.[/p][/quote]Do please name any of their racists policies because they have non Bobevans

9:20am Tue 24 Dec 13

pwlldu says...

varteg1 says...
UKIP was founded in 1993 by Alan Sked and other members of the cross-party Anti-Federalist League, a political party set up in November 1991 with the aim of fielding candidates opposed to the Maastricht Treaty. Their membership are 95% English, so as far as I'm concerned they are an english national party.
varteg1 says... UKIP was founded in 1993 by Alan Sked and other members of the cross-party Anti-Federalist League, a political party set up in November 1991 with the aim of fielding candidates opposed to the Maastricht Treaty. Their membership are 95% English, so as far as I'm concerned they are an english national party. pwlldu

9:53am Tue 24 Dec 13

Llanmartinangel says...

pwlldu wrote:
Llanmartinangel says... Its narrow minded thinking from people like you who thought the world was flat.
You want an independent Wales and you think I'M narrow-minded? How narrow do you want? A bankrupt banana republic? Care to enlighten us with just how much support your barmy notion has here?
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: Llanmartinangel says... Its narrow minded thinking from people like you who thought the world was flat.[/p][/quote]You want an independent Wales and you think I'M narrow-minded? How narrow do you want? A bankrupt banana republic? Care to enlighten us with just how much support your barmy notion has here? Llanmartinangel

10:25am Tue 24 Dec 13

BassalegCountyFan says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
pwlldu wrote:
Llanmartinangel says...
You can't have it both ways. You can't keep taking £10b a year off English taxpayers to fund Wales and then bang on about Welsh nationalism.

We sell Welsh water to English areas and charge a fairer price. At the moment Wales still pay more than England. Re-nationalise a lot of industries from coal to the railway. Built one more nuclear plant, to secure our energy needs.
For a start there is no national grid for water. You can only sell it so far into England. Price it to high and Birmingham will be able to afford a pipeline from the Lake District for less. Around 40% of the charge is drainage anyway which those English places get for nothing so Wales can't charge. As for nationalising anything well where will you get the money? And even if you did, where would the investment for the future come from? Christ you are naive.
Llanmartin,
If we can afford to bail out private companies as we did during the West Coast Main Line Fiasco, then I'm pretty sure we can afford to run an efficently, publically-owned railway system that works for passengers not shareholders and executives, just as we did for half a century. Who knows, we might even get rid of the annual 1.7 million minutes of delays we've had since privatisation!
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: Llanmartinangel says... You can't have it both ways. You can't keep taking £10b a year off English taxpayers to fund Wales and then bang on about Welsh nationalism. We sell Welsh water to English areas and charge a fairer price. At the moment Wales still pay more than England. Re-nationalise a lot of industries from coal to the railway. Built one more nuclear plant, to secure our energy needs.[/p][/quote]For a start there is no national grid for water. You can only sell it so far into England. Price it to high and Birmingham will be able to afford a pipeline from the Lake District for less. Around 40% of the charge is drainage anyway which those English places get for nothing so Wales can't charge. As for nationalising anything well where will you get the money? And even if you did, where would the investment for the future come from? Christ you are naive.[/p][/quote]Llanmartin, If we can afford to bail out private companies as we did during the West Coast Main Line Fiasco, then I'm pretty sure we can afford to run an efficently, publically-owned railway system that works for passengers not shareholders and executives, just as we did for half a century. Who knows, we might even get rid of the annual 1.7 million minutes of delays we've had since privatisation! BassalegCountyFan

11:26am Tue 24 Dec 13

pwlldu says...

Llanmartinangel says... Wales can't get much lower than it is today and hanging onto Englands coat tails will never improve. If Wales was unable to support itself and depend on england, why hasn't the people of england threatened to throw us out ot the UK. But as a unionist you have been brain wash by the right wing media and GB politicians.
Llanmartinangel says... Wales can't get much lower than it is today and hanging onto Englands coat tails will never improve. If Wales was unable to support itself and depend on england, why hasn't the people of england threatened to throw us out ot the UK. But as a unionist you have been brain wash by the right wing media and GB politicians. pwlldu

8:17am Wed 25 Dec 13

county mad says...

Pwlldu what sre you going to nationalize? 1Steel works a couple ofdrift mines and an outdated railsystem! Hold on folks the socialist idyll is on the way. For god_ sake get real and grow up
Pwlldu what sre you going to nationalize? 1Steel works a couple ofdrift mines and an outdated railsystem! Hold on folks the socialist idyll is on the way. For god_ sake get real and grow up county mad

10:32am Thu 26 Dec 13

Mr Angry says...

Bobevans wrote:
Mr Angry wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
Mr Angry wrote: I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up
You are talking total fiction. UKIP's policy is to have controlled migration. The legislation will not be retrospective so no one currently in the UK legally would be thrown out nor would any British people in Spain legally be thrown out I am afraid you are demonstrating that it is you that are the idiot
You are the biggest idiot ever to post on these boards.
Once the UK is outside the EU , UK citizens will loose the right to live and work in other EU countries, and these Countries would be entitled to expell non EU citizens.

The EU would not make it easy in the unlikely event of Faraghe and his racist biggots getting any where near power.
Do please name any of their racists policies because they have non
What Godfrey Bloom and his ideas ? Victoria Ayling -' send them all back'
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up[/p][/quote]You are talking total fiction. UKIP's policy is to have controlled migration. The legislation will not be retrospective so no one currently in the UK legally would be thrown out nor would any British people in Spain legally be thrown out I am afraid you are demonstrating that it is you that are the idiot[/p][/quote]You are the biggest idiot ever to post on these boards. Once the UK is outside the EU , UK citizens will loose the right to live and work in other EU countries, and these Countries would be entitled to expell non EU citizens. The EU would not make it easy in the unlikely event of Faraghe and his racist biggots getting any where near power.[/p][/quote]Do please name any of their racists policies because they have non[/p][/quote]What Godfrey Bloom and his ideas ? Victoria Ayling -' send them all back' Mr Angry

12:45pm Thu 26 Dec 13

welshmen says...

Mr Angry wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
Mr Angry wrote:
Bobevans wrote:
Mr Angry wrote: I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up
You are talking total fiction. UKIP's policy is to have controlled migration. The legislation will not be retrospective so no one currently in the UK legally would be thrown out nor would any British people in Spain legally be thrown out I am afraid you are demonstrating that it is you that are the idiot
You are the biggest idiot ever to post on these boards.
Once the UK is outside the EU , UK citizens will loose the right to live and work in other EU countries, and these Countries would be entitled to expell non EU citizens.

The EU would not make it easy in the unlikely event of Faraghe and his racist biggots getting any where near power.
Do please name any of their racists policies because they have non
What Godfrey Bloom and his ideas ? Victoria Ayling -' send them all back'
UK citizens wont lose their right to live in Spain France Greece or any other EU country if and when we leave the EU, how many xpats are claiming benefits in EU countries? we have 640,000 EU people here, the scroungers who came from the EU to Britain because we have the BEST benefits, then yes get rid of ALL of THEM, and asylum seeker's who cross neutral countries throw their passport's away and expect everything fore free for life, I would also suggest the NHS foreign tourists either pay before your operations, medical care before you get treated, just like when WE go to a foreign Country you either pay or don't get any treatment.

Try not to call people idiots just because they have an opinion that's not yours, if you love the multi-cultural thing go and live in London, don't try and inflict your warped future outlook on the rest of us taxpaying Brits, the Liberal way is the WRONG WAY in my opinion and MILLIONS of British people...

Never mind UKIP get the British National Party in Westminster,in my opinion and millions of others is the only way back for this Country, our Governments have failed and failed just like this lot, £129 Trillion in Debt and rising, The BNP wont take any short change from the Bankers or Foreign Company tax dodgers, the BNP don't rely on their cash support like other parties, if China wan't to sell their goods here then they will pay a levy just like other Countries, and British Companies who sauce their work out to foreign Countries will pay a levy, other parties have had their day, time for loads of courage and big changes, not relying on the same old lies year in year out and still getting deeper into debt, the Government don't want less than 7% out of work other wise the workers will demand a better living wage not the minimum wage....
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: I asked a UKIP lunatic once , what would happen to the 2 Million Brits currently working in the EU, and the 750,000 British OAP s who retired and settled in Spain, France, and Portugal ?.He just shouted ' They shouldn't have gone in the first place ' A well reasoned answer , which sums UKIP idiots up[/p][/quote]You are talking total fiction. UKIP's policy is to have controlled migration. The legislation will not be retrospective so no one currently in the UK legally would be thrown out nor would any British people in Spain legally be thrown out I am afraid you are demonstrating that it is you that are the idiot[/p][/quote]You are the biggest idiot ever to post on these boards. Once the UK is outside the EU , UK citizens will loose the right to live and work in other EU countries, and these Countries would be entitled to expell non EU citizens. The EU would not make it easy in the unlikely event of Faraghe and his racist biggots getting any where near power.[/p][/quote]Do please name any of their racists policies because they have non[/p][/quote]What Godfrey Bloom and his ideas ? Victoria Ayling -' send them all back'[/p][/quote]UK citizens wont lose their right to live in Spain France Greece or any other EU country if and when we leave the EU, how many xpats are claiming benefits in EU countries? we have 640,000 EU people here, the scroungers who came from the EU to Britain because we have the BEST benefits, then yes get rid of ALL of THEM, and asylum seeker's who cross neutral countries throw their passport's away and expect everything fore free for life, I would also suggest the NHS foreign tourists either pay before your operations, medical care before you get treated, just like when WE go to a foreign Country you either pay or don't get any treatment. Try not to call people idiots just because they have an opinion that's not yours, if you love the multi-cultural thing go and live in London, don't try and inflict your warped future outlook on the rest of us taxpaying Brits, the Liberal way is the WRONG WAY in my opinion and MILLIONS of British people... Never mind UKIP get the British National Party in Westminster,in my opinion and millions of others is the only way back for this Country, our Governments have failed and failed just like this lot, £129 Trillion in Debt and rising, The BNP wont take any short change from the Bankers or Foreign Company tax dodgers, the BNP don't rely on their cash support like other parties, if China wan't to sell their goods here then they will pay a levy just like other Countries, and British Companies who sauce their work out to foreign Countries will pay a levy, other parties have had their day, time for loads of courage and big changes, not relying on the same old lies year in year out and still getting deeper into debt, the Government don't want less than 7% out of work other wise the workers will demand a better living wage not the minimum wage.... welshmen

1:39pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Mr Angry says...

Bob Evans called me an idiot, its a bit rich coming from him, if he calls me it, he should expect it back - end of matter
Bob Evans called me an idiot, its a bit rich coming from him, if he calls me it, he should expect it back - end of matter Mr Angry

4:42pm Thu 26 Dec 13

welshmen says...

Mr Angry wrote:
Bob Evans called me an idiot, its a bit rich coming from him, if he calls me it, he should expect it back - end of matter
two wrongs, rise above it....
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: Bob Evans called me an idiot, its a bit rich coming from him, if he calls me it, he should expect it back - end of matter[/p][/quote]two wrongs, rise above it.... welshmen

5:51pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

pwlldu wrote:
varteg1 says...
UKIP was founded in 1993 by Alan Sked and other members of the cross-party Anti-Federalist League, a political party set up in November 1991 with the aim of fielding candidates opposed to the Maastricht Treaty. Their membership are 95% English, so as far as I'm concerned they are an english national party.
THey are not 95% English but the number of English supporters on pure numbers will be very high as England has over 80% of the UK's population
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: varteg1 says... UKIP was founded in 1993 by Alan Sked and other members of the cross-party Anti-Federalist League, a political party set up in November 1991 with the aim of fielding candidates opposed to the Maastricht Treaty. Their membership are 95% English, so as far as I'm concerned they are an english national party.[/p][/quote]THey are not 95% English but the number of English supporters on pure numbers will be very high as England has over 80% of the UK's population Bobevans

5:56pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Bobevans says...

Look at the nonsense we have had with M&S who are allowing cashiers to refuse to sell you some products that the store sells
Look at the nonsense we have had with M&S who are allowing cashiers to refuse to sell you some products that the store sells Bobevans

8:10am Fri 27 Dec 13

pwlldu says...

The BGS is working with Glasgow City Council to look into the use of heat energy from the ground to help to warm Glasgow's homes and communities.
Our studies are helping to identify which parts of the city would offer the best prospects of supplying this kind of energy; looking at the potential heat within minewaters, superficial deposits and bedrock aquifers beneath Glasgow.
This new source of energy could help Glasgow to meet government targets to ensure 11 per cent of heat demand comes from renewable sources by 2020.
It will also contribute to Glasgow's ambition, under the Sustainable Glasgow partnership, to become one of Europe's most sustainable cities within the next ten years. BGS expertise can help you find out more about the heat energy beneath Glasgow.
The BGS is working with Glasgow City Council to look into the use of heat energy from the ground to help to warm Glasgow's homes and communities. Our studies are helping to identify which parts of the city would offer the best prospects of supplying this kind of energy; looking at the potential heat within minewaters, superficial deposits and bedrock aquifers beneath Glasgow. This new source of energy could help Glasgow to meet government targets to ensure 11 per cent of heat demand comes from renewable sources by 2020. It will also contribute to Glasgow's ambition, under the Sustainable Glasgow partnership, to become one of Europe's most sustainable cities within the next ten years. BGS expertise can help you find out more about the heat energy beneath Glasgow. pwlldu

8:12am Fri 27 Dec 13

pwlldu says...

So why can't Wales follow Glasgow and have cheap available gas from the former south wales coal fields.
So why can't Wales follow Glasgow and have cheap available gas from the former south wales coal fields. pwlldu

10:30am Fri 27 Dec 13

pwlldu says...

M&S closed an underwear factory in Aberbargoed and opened a new factory in Turkey.
M&S closed an underwear factory in Aberbargoed and opened a new factory in Turkey. pwlldu

8:13am Thu 2 Jan 14

pwlldu says...

If Wales can't survive without being part of the UK, then Britain can't survive without being part of Europe.
If Wales can't survive without being part of the UK, then Britain can't survive without being part of Europe. pwlldu

8:18am Thu 2 Jan 14

pwlldu says...

UKIP like Labour, Tories and Lib Dems are lead by a load of middle class/ upper class school boys. Who then have the cheek to say we understand your pain. Yeah right on, you have only felt cold while sking on some snowy mountain and I bet you never been without food in your life. These over paid London MP's haven't got a clue about pain. By the way a Happy New Year to all Welsh socialist.
UKIP like Labour, Tories and Lib Dems are lead by a load of middle class/ upper class school boys. Who then have the cheek to say we understand your pain. Yeah right on, you have only felt cold while sking on some snowy mountain and I bet you never been without food in your life. These over paid London MP's haven't got a clue about pain. By the way a Happy New Year to all Welsh socialist. pwlldu

1:00pm Thu 2 Jan 14

welshmen says...

pwlldu wrote:
UKIP like Labour, Tories and Lib Dems are lead by a load of middle class/ upper class school boys. Who then have the cheek to say we understand your pain. Yeah right on, you have only felt cold while sking on some snowy mountain and I bet you never been without food in your life. These over paid London MP's haven't got a clue about pain. By the way a Happy New Year to all Welsh socialist.
Do I detect a British Nationalist in the making, my be?....British first and forever....
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: UKIP like Labour, Tories and Lib Dems are lead by a load of middle class/ upper class school boys. Who then have the cheek to say we understand your pain. Yeah right on, you have only felt cold while sking on some snowy mountain and I bet you never been without food in your life. These over paid London MP's haven't got a clue about pain. By the way a Happy New Year to all Welsh socialist.[/p][/quote]Do I detect a British Nationalist in the making, my be?....British first and forever.... welshmen

3:26pm Thu 2 Jan 14

pwlldu says...

welshmen says... Don’t be fooled by the British propaganda machine. Wales was the first country to be simulated into the British way and will be the last to gain its freedom. Once England realise and push for English independence Wales will have nowhere to go but follow. From a true Welshman and partriot.
welshmen says... Don’t be fooled by the British propaganda machine. Wales was the first country to be simulated into the British way and will be the last to gain its freedom. Once England realise and push for English independence Wales will have nowhere to go but follow. From a true Welshman and partriot. pwlldu

2:08pm Sun 5 Jan 14

Nig says...

pwlldu wrote:
welshmen says... Don’t be fooled by the British propaganda machine. Wales was the first country to be simulated into the British way and will be the last to gain its freedom. Once England realise and push for English independence Wales will have nowhere to go but follow. From a true Welshman and partriot.
from a true Welshman and patriot , all extremist judge themselves to be true patriots , Adolf and Joe Stalin justified all they did by using the same political language
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: welshmen says... Don’t be fooled by the British propaganda machine. Wales was the first country to be simulated into the British way and will be the last to gain its freedom. Once England realise and push for English independence Wales will have nowhere to go but follow. From a true Welshman and partriot.[/p][/quote]from a true Welshman and patriot , all extremist judge themselves to be true patriots , Adolf and Joe Stalin justified all they did by using the same political language Nig

8:08am Mon 6 Jan 14

pwlldu says...

Nig says... You forgot to mention Winston Churchill, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Ghandi, Nelson Mandela, Owain Glyndwr, William Wallace, The Princes of Wales, the leader of the Boars in South Africa. Isn't Joe Stalin on the socialist side of the coin where Labour once was.
Nig says... You forgot to mention Winston Churchill, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Ghandi, Nelson Mandela, Owain Glyndwr, William Wallace, The Princes of Wales, the leader of the Boars in South Africa. Isn't Joe Stalin on the socialist side of the coin where Labour once was. pwlldu

8:11am Mon 6 Jan 14

pwlldu says...

Nig, what do you think of your local Labour AM and fellow Labour cllr Kirby. How can you share a platform with some right wing voters during the no/yes campaign?
Nig, what do you think of your local Labour AM and fellow Labour cllr Kirby. How can you share a platform with some right wing voters during the no/yes campaign? pwlldu

9:49am Mon 6 Jan 14

pwlldu says...

Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
John F. Kennedy
If we love our country, we should also love our countrymen.
Ronald Reagan
Before we can respect other countries, we must respect ourselves first. The worse kind of nationalism is British nationalism, the ones that opressed lesser countries and robbed them of their wealth.
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty. John F. Kennedy If we love our country, we should also love our countrymen. Ronald Reagan Before we can respect other countries, we must respect ourselves first. The worse kind of nationalism is British nationalism, the ones that opressed lesser countries and robbed them of their wealth. pwlldu

10:38am Mon 6 Jan 14

blackandamber says...

pwlldu wrote:
Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty.
John F. Kennedy
If we love our country, we should also love our countrymen.
Ronald Reagan
Before we can respect other countries, we must respect ourselves first. The worse kind of nationalism is British nationalism, the ones that opressed lesser countries and robbed them of their wealth.
How many of these "lesser" country would welcome British nationalism back when you consider some of the basket cases some of these countries have become.
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty. John F. Kennedy If we love our country, we should also love our countrymen. Ronald Reagan Before we can respect other countries, we must respect ourselves first. The worse kind of nationalism is British nationalism, the ones that opressed lesser countries and robbed them of their wealth.[/p][/quote]How many of these "lesser" country would welcome British nationalism back when you consider some of the basket cases some of these countries have become. blackandamber

8:04am Tue 7 Jan 14

pwlldu says...

blackandamber says... Britain is already a warmongering basket case. Like all Empires will disappear into the history books.
blackandamber says... Britain is already a warmongering basket case. Like all Empires will disappear into the history books. pwlldu

8:51am Tue 7 Jan 14

blackandamber says...

pwlldu wrote:
blackandamber says... Britain is already a warmongering basket case. Like all Empires will disappear into the history books.
And all because of "patriots" like you.
[quote][p][bold]pwlldu[/bold] wrote: blackandamber says... Britain is already a warmongering basket case. Like all Empires will disappear into the history books.[/p][/quote]And all because of "patriots" like you. blackandamber

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