Sort out supply

IN WHAT is a totally opposite approach to that used with other utilities, THE WAG’s latest madcap idea is to install a water meter for every home in Wales.

Yes, with modern living there are increased numbers of automatic washing machines and dishwashers etc. that could account for the increased demand over recent years and climatic changes in rainfall which are now unpredictable. It is a problem that needs to be solved.

But unlike the money being spent on wind power and fibre broadband to cater for increasing supply demands in power and internet, this proposal is totally the wrong approach, to what is after all a vital requirement for life and will penalise families, although it will ‘protect the poor and vulnerable’ and the way they live.

Invest in replacing the aged water pipes to reduce losses in the distribution network or provide new capacity in existing or new reservoirs. While the proposed policy is designed to deal with increased usage and with the uncertainty over rainfall, the millions of pounds of taxpayers’ money should not be spent on rationing water to consumers but building a system that will cope with our demands.

Dave Fothergill St Julians Ave, Newport

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1:46pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Frankfurt says...

I agree there is more than enough water in Wales (only about 2% of rainfall is used) to meet all our needs without subjecting the population to metering. Apart from anything else meters cost money and we have much higher priorities for spending limited cash such as the NHS. If there is any country in the world that doesn't need water meters, it is Wales.
I agree there is more than enough water in Wales (only about 2% of rainfall is used) to meet all our needs without subjecting the population to metering. Apart from anything else meters cost money and we have much higher priorities for spending limited cash such as the NHS. If there is any country in the world that doesn't need water meters, it is Wales. Frankfurt
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4:35pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Mervyn James says...

I'd want a meter, so I only pay for what I use and not prop up excessive water wastage by others. I suspect with a meter I would not be paying the extortionate amount I do now.
I'd want a meter, so I only pay for what I use and not prop up excessive water wastage by others. I suspect with a meter I would not be paying the extortionate amount I do now. Mervyn James
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6:10pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Dave on his Soapbox says...

....Mervyn....I'd guess the majority of people that have opted to have a meter fitted....has for the same reason.....save money...and not to save water.... as we can all do that if we wanted without a meter.

As to wastage....how does anyone know how an individual/family uses water.....

Many service pipes are as old as the properties they feed....and not maintained by WWA....which could account for some the waste...along with dripping taps....etc.

Like refuse collection etc....how we pay is very difficult to administer so that those who use something more than others.....without that solution costing as much as it saves......we are all different and have to accept that life is not always fair......
....Mervyn....I'd guess the majority of people that have opted to have a meter fitted....has for the same reason.....save money...and not to save water.... as we can all do that if we wanted without a meter. As to wastage....how does anyone know how an individual/family uses water..... Many service pipes are as old as the properties they feed....and not maintained by WWA....which could account for some the waste...along with dripping taps....etc. Like refuse collection etc....how we pay is very difficult to administer so that those who use something more than others.....without that solution costing as much as it saves......we are all different and have to accept that life is not always fair...... Dave on his Soapbox
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9:28pm Tue 22 Apr 14

scraptheWAG says...

Mervyn James wrote:
I'd want a meter, so I only pay for what I use and not prop up excessive water wastage by others. I suspect with a meter I would not be paying the extortionate amount I do now.
then request one merv it is free
[quote][p][bold]Mervyn James[/bold] wrote: I'd want a meter, so I only pay for what I use and not prop up excessive water wastage by others. I suspect with a meter I would not be paying the extortionate amount I do now.[/p][/quote]then request one merv it is free scraptheWAG
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7:24am Wed 23 Apr 14

Llanmartinangel says...

You won't save money by having a meter if everyone has them. Welsh Water's costs will actually rise to cover reading them and they will still have the same number of staff to pay, maintenance costs, sewage disposal costs etc. the raw material costs them little so if everyone used less, prices per cubic meter would go up to maintain the company.
You won't save money by having a meter if everyone has them. Welsh Water's costs will actually rise to cover reading them and they will still have the same number of staff to pay, maintenance costs, sewage disposal costs etc. the raw material costs them little so if everyone used less, prices per cubic meter would go up to maintain the company. Llanmartinangel
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9:41am Wed 23 Apr 14

Frankfurt says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
You won't save money by having a meter if everyone has them. Welsh Water's costs will actually rise to cover reading them and they will still have the same number of staff to pay, maintenance costs, sewage disposal costs etc. the raw material costs them little so if everyone used less, prices per cubic meter would go up to maintain the company.
That's exactly right. There is also the cost of installing meters, maintaining them and reading them. Another point which is often unrecognised is that peak water demand occurs in bad winters when pipes burst and not in hot summers. So the supply system has to be capable of dealing with frost irrespective of what the customer might save, which is only about 10% anyway, if that. People don't generally waste a lot of water whether they have a meter or not.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: You won't save money by having a meter if everyone has them. Welsh Water's costs will actually rise to cover reading them and they will still have the same number of staff to pay, maintenance costs, sewage disposal costs etc. the raw material costs them little so if everyone used less, prices per cubic meter would go up to maintain the company.[/p][/quote]That's exactly right. There is also the cost of installing meters, maintaining them and reading them. Another point which is often unrecognised is that peak water demand occurs in bad winters when pipes burst and not in hot summers. So the supply system has to be capable of dealing with frost irrespective of what the customer might save, which is only about 10% anyway, if that. People don't generally waste a lot of water whether they have a meter or not. Frankfurt
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5:21pm Thu 24 Apr 14

varteg1 says...

After many years without a meter I finally decided to go for one, I am now in a two person house, no kids they've all gone, so our water consumption is far less than previous times.

We did not go for environmental reasons, it was purely for economic reasons, we are better off by some hundreds of Pounds per year, so, in recommending you switch to a metered supply, I offer one caveat if you have kids, wait until they leave home, Take advantage of what is available, and get metered when the consumption drops to levels commensurate with a childless household.
After many years without a meter I finally decided to go for one, I am now in a two person house, no kids they've all gone, so our water consumption is far less than previous times. We did not go for environmental reasons, it was purely for economic reasons, we are better off by some hundreds of Pounds per year, so, in recommending you switch to a metered supply, I offer one caveat if you have kids, wait until they leave home, Take advantage of what is available, and get metered when the consumption drops to levels commensurate with a childless household. varteg1
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