Open bus lanes

I AM a resident living on the East side of Newport. And On many occasions I notice traffic jams near the Cenotaph in Clarence Place during peak times.

I note that there are three main roads, Caerleon Road, Chepstow Road and Corporation Road that during peak times run west wards into a single lane approaching Newport Bridge. Cars remain at a standstill as they’re not permitted to filter into the bus lane, which is generally only used by a very small number of buses and taxis.

Is there a need for these extremely short distance bus lanes?

I believe by freeing the short distance bus lane on Clarence Place to allow the three main roads to filter into two lanes not one will allow not only the buses and taxis but all other traffic will be able to circulate efficiently during peak time.

Jen Davies Corelli Street Newport

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3:44pm Tue 3 Jun 14

exMark says...

Isn't that the whole reason the bus lane is there though? To avoid the traffic to keep the bus service on time.

You put cars in the bus lane and then the bus gets stuck in the traffic as well.
Isn't that the whole reason the bus lane is there though? To avoid the traffic to keep the bus service on time. You put cars in the bus lane and then the bus gets stuck in the traffic as well. exMark
  • Score: 4

4:52pm Tue 3 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

Without the bus lane there, a timed bus service for Newport East would be even further away from reality then it is now.
Might i suggest another means of transport without sounding flippant.
If the council go ahead with the Riverside/Glan Usk housing development of 250 dwellings and 350 dedicated car spaces as well as the inevitable parent traffic, i would be looking for a used jet pack on ebay because you won't be getting onto Caerleon Road anytime soon anyway.
Without the bus lane there, a timed bus service for Newport East would be even further away from reality then it is now. Might i suggest another means of transport without sounding flippant. If the council go ahead with the Riverside/Glan Usk housing development of 250 dwellings and 350 dedicated car spaces as well as the inevitable parent traffic, i would be looking for a used jet pack on ebay because you won't be getting onto Caerleon Road anytime soon anyway. landyman3030
  • Score: 6

5:58pm Tue 3 Jun 14

varteg1 says...

Even when bus lanes are open to all traffic, it's amazing how many still keep off them. The junction at the corner of the Royal Gwent is often backed up for some distance, which I find useful as I ride the bus lane, and thereby undertake a long line of idiots who either ignore, or cannot understand, the signs all along Cardiff road telling what what times the lane is open to all.
Even when bus lanes are open to all traffic, it's amazing how many still keep off them. The junction at the corner of the Royal Gwent is often backed up for some distance, which I find useful as I ride the bus lane, and thereby undertake a long line of idiots who either ignore, or cannot understand, the signs all along Cardiff road telling what what times the lane is open to all. varteg1
  • Score: 13

12:56pm Wed 4 Jun 14

Severn40 says...

Bus lanes don't cause congestion. Before everyone goes off on one, the problems are the junctions. What controls the queuing along Clarence Place are the number of cars on Old Green. OK. If you remove the bus lane, you may end up having two lanes of queues and be physically closer to Old Green but the number of cars on Old Green will still control the time you get to it. The downside is that buses (carrying potentially 30 people or so) are also stuck in the queue as the single person in a car.
Bus lanes don't cause congestion. Before everyone goes off on one, the problems are the junctions. What controls the queuing along Clarence Place are the number of cars on Old Green. OK. If you remove the bus lane, you may end up having two lanes of queues and be physically closer to Old Green but the number of cars on Old Green will still control the time you get to it. The downside is that buses (carrying potentially 30 people or so) are also stuck in the queue as the single person in a car. Severn40
  • Score: 3

7:48pm Wed 4 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

Severn40 wrote:
Bus lanes don't cause congestion. Before everyone goes off on one, the problems are the junctions. What controls the queuing along Clarence Place are the number of cars on Old Green. OK. If you remove the bus lane, you may end up having two lanes of queues and be physically closer to Old Green but the number of cars on Old Green will still control the time you get to it. The downside is that buses (carrying potentially 30 people or so) are also stuck in the queue as the single person in a car.
Well said. Time and again Clarence Place is backed up because of Old Green traffic. Why?
The crossing over Queensway to the NCC Information Station may be a safer alternative to the subway but it does throw traffic back onto the roundabout. Then the automatic system kicks in because it detects traffic which must be controlled and so on and so on. It's marginally better since the station ticket office moved further along but now you find two traffic obstacles which seem to be permanently in a flux of redambergreenamberre
dambergreen...
The position of the traffic lights and sequencing at Clarence Place leaves a lot to be desired too. We need the hand to come down from the clouds and pick up the muppets who ignore the yellow grids. Anybody old enough to remember that one. Lol.
[quote][p][bold]Severn40[/bold] wrote: Bus lanes don't cause congestion. Before everyone goes off on one, the problems are the junctions. What controls the queuing along Clarence Place are the number of cars on Old Green. OK. If you remove the bus lane, you may end up having two lanes of queues and be physically closer to Old Green but the number of cars on Old Green will still control the time you get to it. The downside is that buses (carrying potentially 30 people or so) are also stuck in the queue as the single person in a car.[/p][/quote]Well said. Time and again Clarence Place is backed up because of Old Green traffic. Why? The crossing over Queensway to the NCC Information Station may be a safer alternative to the subway but it does throw traffic back onto the roundabout. Then the automatic system kicks in because it detects traffic which must be controlled and so on and so on. It's marginally better since the station ticket office moved further along but now you find two traffic obstacles which seem to be permanently in a flux of redambergreenamberre dambergreen... The position of the traffic lights and sequencing at Clarence Place leaves a lot to be desired too. We need the hand to come down from the clouds and pick up the muppets who ignore the yellow grids. Anybody old enough to remember that one. Lol. landyman3030
  • Score: 1

6:11am Thu 5 Jun 14

Rafywhnewg says...

exMark wrote:
Isn't that the whole reason the bus lane is there though? To avoid the traffic to keep the bus service on time.

You put cars in the bus lane and then the bus gets stuck in the traffic as well.
Yes that was the whole point of bus lanes and also to gain City status. However, let's not forget the whole purpose of bus lanes is or was to encourage people to use public transport to prevent pollution. However, traffic jams cause more pollution.

But, it's the21st century and unfortunately most of us use our cars, and don't rely on public transport or other forms of transportation, including me! Even though I do like a good old walk rain or shine. But unfortunately I'm caught up living this human rat race...

Anyway, the one important factor that was missed from my letter... " bus lane, which are generally only used by a very small number of buses and taxis. I've also noticed that buses too get caught in this traffic jam on the 3 main feeder roads mentioned". Is there there still such a thing in Newport as car share scheme??

Newport is a very small city and the consequently small public transport system does not warrant dedicated bus lanes in certain parts of Newport, such as Handpost, which also suffers congestion at peak times as cars are unable to use the bus lane, which flows naturally left onto Bassaleg Road

I've noticed previous statements mentioning that the traffic would still get caught up in the traffic on the Old green rd...which of course is big problem, especially as it's the main route in entering the city...

So many people this dayand age rely on our cars, so yes probably something needs to be looked into on how to to change the public view on public transport, does the public transport system need improving?? I have to say the buses in Newport do look very nice, but are they efficient enough for us?? But, something need to be looked into. Especially, as someone in previous status has raised the subject on the ever growing number of houses and flats being built or due to be built. So yes, this will only escalate the problem on roads entering the'city', which one day will be thriving...

I just hope with all this additional housing that something is done sooner rather than later with our traffic system and also the much needed urgency of the new hospital...but that is another matter...
[quote][p][bold]exMark[/bold] wrote: Isn't that the whole reason the bus lane is there though? To avoid the traffic to keep the bus service on time. You put cars in the bus lane and then the bus gets stuck in the traffic as well.[/p][/quote]Yes that was the whole point of bus lanes and also to gain City status. However, let's not forget the whole purpose of bus lanes is or was to encourage people to use public transport to prevent pollution. However, traffic jams cause more pollution. But, it's the21st century and unfortunately most of us use our cars, and don't rely on public transport or other forms of transportation, including me! Even though I do like a good old walk rain or shine. But unfortunately I'm caught up living this human rat race... Anyway, the one important factor that was missed from my letter... " bus lane, which are generally only used by a very small number of buses and taxis. I've also noticed that buses too get caught in this traffic jam on the 3 main feeder roads mentioned". Is there there still such a thing in Newport as car share scheme?? Newport is a very small city and the consequently small public transport system does not warrant dedicated bus lanes in certain parts of Newport, such as Handpost, which also suffers congestion at peak times as cars are unable to use the bus lane, which flows naturally left onto Bassaleg Road I've noticed previous statements mentioning that the traffic would still get caught up in the traffic on the Old green rd...which of course is big problem, especially as it's the main route in entering the city... So many people this dayand age rely on our cars, so yes probably something needs to be looked into on how to to change the public view on public transport, does the public transport system need improving?? I have to say the buses in Newport do look very nice, but are they efficient enough for us?? But, something need to be looked into. Especially, as someone in previous status has raised the subject on the ever growing number of houses and flats being built or due to be built. So yes, this will only escalate the problem on roads entering the'city', which one day will be thriving... I just hope with all this additional housing that something is done sooner rather than later with our traffic system and also the much needed urgency of the new hospital...but that is another matter... Rafywhnewg
  • Score: 9

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