Bottom of class

First published in Letters

CARWYN Jones lost faith in some councils delivering a high standard of education.

He said how can he have faith when Torfaen, Monmouthshire, Merthyr Tydfil, Anglesey, Blaenau Gwent and Pembrokeshire are in special measures.

He thinks some councils are incapable of improving education and it’s impossible to have faith in the delivery of education across Wales.

Mr Jones argued it gives further urgency to the need to cut the number of councils, only if Labour get a majority in the Welsh Assembly after the next Assembly elections.

If Mr Jones has no confidence in some Labour councillors, how can he expect the voter to show any confidence for them to run our councils?

Andrew Nutt Heolddu Road Bargoed

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3:33pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Bobevans says...

Should education even come under local councils? The same can be said of social services. That fits better under the NHS alongside GP's
Should education even come under local councils? The same can be said of social services. That fits better under the NHS alongside GP's Bobevans
  • Score: 5

7:06pm Thu 19 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

Bobevans wrote:
Should education even come under local councils? The same can be said of social services. That fits better under the NHS alongside GP's
Education has been a political game of tennis for years by both the UK government and WAG. Education policy and curriculum changes so often that some schools struggle to keep up with the latest fad. Primary school teaching methods have completely changed in the last 5 years. Back then it was all about spelling things as they phonetically. Now it's very much learn through play and the kids will get there eventually. Why do the WAG find it so difficult to find a method that works and stick to it.
Constant fighting for funds for supplies whilst having to pay hundreds of thousands of pounds on bank teachers to cover lessons is insanity.
Go online to your schools web site and look for the Governors Annual Report.
Not the most interesting I know, but there should be figures for the school spend for last year. Look how much is spent and where. It opened my eyes.
[quote][p][bold]Bobevans[/bold] wrote: Should education even come under local councils? The same can be said of social services. That fits better under the NHS alongside GP's[/p][/quote]Education has been a political game of tennis for years by both the UK government and WAG. Education policy and curriculum changes so often that some schools struggle to keep up with the latest fad. Primary school teaching methods have completely changed in the last 5 years. Back then it was all about spelling things as they phonetically. Now it's very much learn through play and the kids will get there eventually. Why do the WAG find it so difficult to find a method that works and stick to it. Constant fighting for funds for supplies whilst having to pay hundreds of thousands of pounds on bank teachers to cover lessons is insanity. Go online to your schools web site and look for the Governors Annual Report. Not the most interesting I know, but there should be figures for the school spend for last year. Look how much is spent and where. It opened my eyes. landyman3030
  • Score: 5

7:10pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Mervyn James says...

If a school is letting down our kids then special measures are the right way to go. It is of concern so many are in that state. We are told the good teachers don't want to teach in S Wales. We read this week our poorest white children are way behind the poorest ethnic children too,what on earth is going on ? It's as if parents and kids have decided schools out, they have better things to do... Now Milliband wants them off the streets and training or no dole to spend on drugs and drink, albeit Milliband is about 5 years behind the Tories who are already doing it ! Let's talk to the organ grinders not the monkeys... If labour don't buck up the UKIP will be deciding for us...
If a school is letting down our kids then special measures are the right way to go. It is of concern so many are in that state. We are told the good teachers don't want to teach in S Wales. We read this week our poorest white children are way behind the poorest ethnic children too,what on earth is going on ? It's as if parents and kids have decided schools out, they have better things to do... Now Milliband wants them off the streets and training or no dole to spend on drugs and drink, albeit Milliband is about 5 years behind the Tories who are already doing it ! Let's talk to the organ grinders not the monkeys... If labour don't buck up the UKIP will be deciding for us... Mervyn James
  • Score: 0

10:34am Fri 20 Jun 14

landyman3030 says...

Exactly. If special measures helps a school out it's got to be the way to go.
What annoys me is that after years of slowly starving our schools of resources to employ full time teachers dedicated to that school and drip feeding supplies so you have cases of parents or teachers having to fund supplies for project and coursework, the WAG have discovered £20 million to give to selected schools. If they had proper funding and support over the last decade or so, i wonder would they be in the same situation as they are now. I applaud the extra funding but unfortunately, after surviving ( not living ) in Wales under the WAG, i can't help but feel cynical in the timing. For me, it's too little to late. Bye bye Carwyn. Bye bye Ed. It's been.........disappo
inting.
Exactly. If special measures helps a school out it's got to be the way to go. What annoys me is that after years of slowly starving our schools of resources to employ full time teachers dedicated to that school and drip feeding supplies so you have cases of parents or teachers having to fund supplies for project and coursework, the WAG have discovered £20 million to give to selected schools. If they had proper funding and support over the last decade or so, i wonder would they be in the same situation as they are now. I applaud the extra funding but unfortunately, after surviving ( not living ) in Wales under the WAG, i can't help but feel cynical in the timing. For me, it's too little to late. Bye bye Carwyn. Bye bye Ed. It's been.........disappo inting. landyman3030
  • Score: 4

12:31pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Mervyn James says...

Yes, I'd want an end to special funded schools, it just takes away money from the state ones, on top of everything else it creates a have and have not education system dependent on how much cash your parents have or are prepared to spend. Poorest children are thus dumped out of it. We shouldn't forget it was the TORIES/Labour who decided to fill a teacher vacancy with someone off the dole as an 'assistant' has contributed to diminishing good education too. Assistants run the classes, teachers fill in forms. Every news coverage of the NHS it is the same we see the images of half a dozen nurses NOT on the wards administering care and support, but grouped around the tables filling in forms and at computers. At school our kids left untaught and managed by baby sitters.
Yes, I'd want an end to special funded schools, it just takes away money from the state ones, on top of everything else it creates a have and have not education system dependent on how much cash your parents have or are prepared to spend. Poorest children are thus dumped out of it. We shouldn't forget it was the TORIES/Labour who decided to fill a teacher vacancy with someone off the dole as an 'assistant' has contributed to diminishing good education too. Assistants run the classes, teachers fill in forms. Every news coverage of the NHS it is the same we see the images of half a dozen nurses NOT on the wards administering care and support, but grouped around the tables filling in forms and at computers. At school our kids left untaught and managed by baby sitters. Mervyn James
  • Score: 1

6:37pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Port0214 says...

How ironic, Carwyn Jones has lost faith in the above councils, we have for the most part lost faith in him and the WAG full stop.
How ironic, Carwyn Jones has lost faith in the above councils, we have for the most part lost faith in him and the WAG full stop. Port0214
  • Score: 8

4:59pm Sun 22 Jun 14

coalpicker says...

As for the dissolution of the county councils it was a very expensive act
of vandalism against the people of Wales now very effort is being made to
restore the situation without actually using the word restoration. for devolution
read destruction .
As for the dissolution of the county councils it was a very expensive act of vandalism against the people of Wales now very effort is being made to restore the situation without actually using the word restoration. for devolution read destruction . coalpicker
  • Score: 5

11:40am Tue 24 Jun 14

Good Job No Kids says...

Port0214 wrote:
How ironic, Carwyn Jones has lost faith in the above councils, we have for the most part lost faith in him and the WAG full stop.
Won't stop you voting labour though will it?
[quote][p][bold]Port0214[/bold] wrote: How ironic, Carwyn Jones has lost faith in the above councils, we have for the most part lost faith in him and the WAG full stop.[/p][/quote]Won't stop you voting labour though will it? Good Job No Kids
  • Score: 0

9:27pm Sat 28 Jun 14

pwlldu says...

Wales got too many councils per head, cut the number of councillors across Wales and reduce the number of councils.
Wales got too many councils per head, cut the number of councillors across Wales and reduce the number of councils. pwlldu
  • Score: 0

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