Doing the maths

First published in Letters

YOU would hope that the man in charge of our finances would know what 7x8 is? However in an interview with Sky News, Mr Osborne was asked that very question by a seven year old boy who started his question with: are you good at maths?

Refusing to answer the question, our esteemed chancellor replied he did A level maths, so had been tested at school.

It is little wonder that Mr Osborne has failed to match his pledge to eliminate the deficit by 2015, with government debt standing at 75 per cent of GDP with an economy built on low wages and low interest rates. Mr Gove should send Boy George back to school.

Cllr Nigel Dix, Blackwood

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1:23pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Care to tell us how that debt came about Mr Dix? After 140 tax rises in thirteen years and apparently unprecedented prosperity by the 'no return to boom and bust' chancellor/PM. (Shame about the 'bust' then). We'll just have to console ourselves with the fact that we are now the fastest growing economy of any G8 nation and will have an even bigger economy than France by the end of the next parliament. Unless Labour win of course and squander it all again. I'm trying to recall which Labour back said 'growth is the way to beat the debt'.
Care to tell us how that debt came about Mr Dix? After 140 tax rises in thirteen years and apparently unprecedented prosperity by the 'no return to boom and bust' chancellor/PM. (Shame about the 'bust' then). We'll just have to console ourselves with the fact that we are now the fastest growing economy of any G8 nation and will have an even bigger economy than France by the end of the next parliament. Unless Labour win of course and squander it all again. I'm trying to recall which Labour back said 'growth is the way to beat the debt'. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 9

2:23pm Thu 17 Jul 14

-trigg- says...

Its interesting to note just how much time Councillor Dix seems to spend writing letters to the local newspaper for the purposes of political point-scoring, rather than fulfilling the role he was elected to.

Incidentally, avoiding this question is merely a result of PR advice rather than a lack of knowledge. Other similar questions that are regularly avoided by politicians from all parties concern the cost of a pint of milk, a loaf of bread etc. or the difficulty one might experience attempting to eat a bacon sandwich.

Perhaps it is simply that Labour pride themselves on only evading the important questions, such as 'Where did all the money go?'
Its interesting to note just how much time Councillor Dix seems to spend writing letters to the local newspaper for the purposes of political point-scoring, rather than fulfilling the role he was elected to. Incidentally, avoiding this question is merely a result of PR advice rather than a lack of knowledge. Other similar questions that are regularly avoided by politicians from all parties concern the cost of a pint of milk, a loaf of bread etc. or the difficulty one might experience attempting to eat a bacon sandwich. Perhaps it is simply that Labour pride themselves on only evading the important questions, such as 'Where did all the money go?' -trigg-
  • Score: 9

4:27pm Thu 17 Jul 14

landyman3030 says...

To the people of Blackwood -
In just over 9 months everybody will have the right to voice their opinion on who will be placed in Councils across the land to govern us.
Whether you agree or disagree with the EU position and mass immigration, or whether you choose to vote for fracking or not, there is one more important question you need to ask yourselves.
Is it really right and proper for your duly elected representative as a member of the ruling Labour party to waste his time and your money writing fractious, point scoring letters to local newspapers when our NHS, education system and Councils in general are suffering levels of incompetent mismanagement and political interference previously unheard of. This is one of the reasons you should really think about next year. Do you REALLY want this person representing you again?
To the people of Blackwood - In just over 9 months everybody will have the right to voice their opinion on who will be placed in Councils across the land to govern us. Whether you agree or disagree with the EU position and mass immigration, or whether you choose to vote for fracking or not, there is one more important question you need to ask yourselves. Is it really right and proper for your duly elected representative as a member of the ruling Labour party to waste his time and your money writing fractious, point scoring letters to local newspapers when our NHS, education system and Councils in general are suffering levels of incompetent mismanagement and political interference previously unheard of. This is one of the reasons you should really think about next year. Do you REALLY want this person representing you again? landyman3030
  • Score: 9

6:21pm Thu 17 Jul 14

scraptheWAG says...

Gordon brown could not even count to ten
Gordon brown could not even count to ten scraptheWAG
  • Score: 4

7:43pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Mr Angry says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
Care to tell us how that debt came about Mr Dix? After 140 tax rises in thirteen years and apparently unprecedented prosperity by the 'no return to boom and bust' chancellor/PM. (Shame about the 'bust' then). We'll just have to console ourselves with the fact that we are now the fastest growing economy of any G8 nation and will have an even bigger economy than France by the end of the next parliament. Unless Labour win of course and squander it all again. I'm trying to recall which Labour back said 'growth is the way to beat the debt'.
apparently the economy is doing well, then I'm puzzelled that 'plebs' like me who 'go to work every day and do the right thing' dont seem to be getting any benefit from it.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: Care to tell us how that debt came about Mr Dix? After 140 tax rises in thirteen years and apparently unprecedented prosperity by the 'no return to boom and bust' chancellor/PM. (Shame about the 'bust' then). We'll just have to console ourselves with the fact that we are now the fastest growing economy of any G8 nation and will have an even bigger economy than France by the end of the next parliament. Unless Labour win of course and squander it all again. I'm trying to recall which Labour back said 'growth is the way to beat the debt'.[/p][/quote]apparently the economy is doing well, then I'm puzzelled that 'plebs' like me who 'go to work every day and do the right thing' dont seem to be getting any benefit from it. Mr Angry
  • Score: 1

7:55pm Thu 17 Jul 14

mkaibear1 says...

Because the lower your income the more you get hammered by the recession and the slower the recovery reaches you.

It's the way boom and bust always works. Sucks for us but it does come down to us eventually. Me I'm still nowhere near the level I was at the start of Labour's great recession - but being made redundant because of public sector cuts does that to you.
Because the lower your income the more you get hammered by the recession and the slower the recovery reaches you. It's the way boom and bust always works. Sucks for us but it does come down to us eventually. Me I'm still nowhere near the level I was at the start of Labour's great recession - but being made redundant because of public sector cuts does that to you. mkaibear1
  • Score: 3

9:36pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Llanmartinangel says...

Mr Angry wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
Care to tell us how that debt came about Mr Dix? After 140 tax rises in thirteen years and apparently unprecedented prosperity by the 'no return to boom and bust' chancellor/PM. (Shame about the 'bust' then). We'll just have to console ourselves with the fact that we are now the fastest growing economy of any G8 nation and will have an even bigger economy than France by the end of the next parliament. Unless Labour win of course and squander it all again. I'm trying to recall which Labour back said 'growth is the way to beat the debt'.
apparently the economy is doing well, then I'm puzzelled that 'plebs' like me who 'go to work every day and do the right thing' dont seem to be getting any benefit from it.
I agree. For the same reason I guess that under the last government, all those tax rises were aimed at working people (stamp duty, passenger duty, fuel duty, road fund, National Insurance etc), except the one in the last year of their13 year tenure which raised the 45 pence rate to 50 pence on top earners. Because we throw too may pounds at people who don't earn and it can only be got from those who do.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: Care to tell us how that debt came about Mr Dix? After 140 tax rises in thirteen years and apparently unprecedented prosperity by the 'no return to boom and bust' chancellor/PM. (Shame about the 'bust' then). We'll just have to console ourselves with the fact that we are now the fastest growing economy of any G8 nation and will have an even bigger economy than France by the end of the next parliament. Unless Labour win of course and squander it all again. I'm trying to recall which Labour back said 'growth is the way to beat the debt'.[/p][/quote]apparently the economy is doing well, then I'm puzzelled that 'plebs' like me who 'go to work every day and do the right thing' dont seem to be getting any benefit from it.[/p][/quote]I agree. For the same reason I guess that under the last government, all those tax rises were aimed at working people (stamp duty, passenger duty, fuel duty, road fund, National Insurance etc), except the one in the last year of their13 year tenure which raised the 45 pence rate to 50 pence on top earners. Because we throw too may pounds at people who don't earn and it can only be got from those who do. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 2

9:58pm Thu 17 Jul 14

temperate says...

The debt came about because Anthony Blair call me tony, took this country to war based on a dodgy dossier (Iraq) Blind subservience (Afghanistan) War in the Balkans or intervention in global conflicts to secure international peace and security through co-operation, as he called it.

Blair ordered the dropping of the largest tonnage of bombs of any British Prime Minister except Churchill.

Brown raised about 150 new taxes and employed 980,000 extra civil and public servants. That's where the money went, and that's why Britain is the mess it is today.

No Labour government has ever left office with the country richer than when it came to power. Look to the state of Wales under the Labour assembly, or the note left by The former chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne, stating, ''I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left,'' to his successor ...

Spare the nonsense and tell us why no money has been recovered from the senior managers of Caerphilly who received unlawful pay awards from Labour cabinet members. Tell us why Labour has not sacked any of the managers who have not paid back the unlawful car allowances or unlawful holiday payments.

While cutting £14.800,000 from services, tell us why Labour fails and fails again, tell us why Wales fails under Labour?
The debt came about because Anthony Blair call me tony, took this country to war based on a dodgy dossier (Iraq) Blind subservience (Afghanistan) War in the Balkans or intervention in global conflicts to secure international peace and security through co-operation, as he called it. Blair ordered the dropping of the largest tonnage of bombs of any British Prime Minister except Churchill. Brown raised about 150 new taxes and employed 980,000 extra civil and public servants. That's where the money went, and that's why Britain is the mess it is today. No Labour government has ever left office with the country richer than when it came to power. Look to the state of Wales under the Labour assembly, or the note left by The former chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne, stating, ''I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left,'' to his successor ... Spare the nonsense and tell us why no money has been recovered from the senior managers of Caerphilly who received unlawful pay awards from Labour cabinet members. Tell us why Labour has not sacked any of the managers who have not paid back the unlawful car allowances or unlawful holiday payments. While cutting £14.800,000 from services, tell us why Labour fails and fails again, tell us why Wales fails under Labour? temperate
  • Score: 7

10:33pm Thu 17 Jul 14

Mr Angry says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
Mr Angry wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
Care to tell us how that debt came about Mr Dix? After 140 tax rises in thirteen years and apparently unprecedented prosperity by the 'no return to boom and bust' chancellor/PM. (Shame about the 'bust' then). We'll just have to console ourselves with the fact that we are now the fastest growing economy of any G8 nation and will have an even bigger economy than France by the end of the next parliament. Unless Labour win of course and squander it all again. I'm trying to recall which Labour back said 'growth is the way to beat the debt'.
apparently the economy is doing well, then I'm puzzelled that 'plebs' like me who 'go to work every day and do the right thing' dont seem to be getting any benefit from it.
I agree. For the same reason I guess that under the last government, all those tax rises were aimed at working people (stamp duty, passenger duty, fuel duty, road fund, National Insurance etc), except the one in the last year of their13 year tenure which raised the 45 pence rate to 50 pence on top earners. Because we throw too may pounds at people who don't earn and it can only be got from those who do.
The point I am making is if the Economy is doing well, then some people are benefiting from this,but it aint me. If we all went in this together, shouldn't we all come out of it together.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: Care to tell us how that debt came about Mr Dix? After 140 tax rises in thirteen years and apparently unprecedented prosperity by the 'no return to boom and bust' chancellor/PM. (Shame about the 'bust' then). We'll just have to console ourselves with the fact that we are now the fastest growing economy of any G8 nation and will have an even bigger economy than France by the end of the next parliament. Unless Labour win of course and squander it all again. I'm trying to recall which Labour back said 'growth is the way to beat the debt'.[/p][/quote]apparently the economy is doing well, then I'm puzzelled that 'plebs' like me who 'go to work every day and do the right thing' dont seem to be getting any benefit from it.[/p][/quote]I agree. For the same reason I guess that under the last government, all those tax rises were aimed at working people (stamp duty, passenger duty, fuel duty, road fund, National Insurance etc), except the one in the last year of their13 year tenure which raised the 45 pence rate to 50 pence on top earners. Because we throw too may pounds at people who don't earn and it can only be got from those who do.[/p][/quote]The point I am making is if the Economy is doing well, then some people are benefiting from this,but it aint me. If we all went in this together, shouldn't we all come out of it together. Mr Angry
  • Score: 4

11:30pm Thu 17 Jul 14

BassalegCountyFan says...

I'd take the Count from Sesame Street as Chancellor over Gideon Osborne any day of the week.

Osborne is as shoddy with his times tables as Cameron is with his use of 'statistics'. Undoubtedly the worst Chancellor since Lamont.
I'd take the Count from Sesame Street as Chancellor over Gideon Osborne any day of the week. Osborne is as shoddy with his times tables as Cameron is with his use of 'statistics'. Undoubtedly the worst Chancellor since Lamont. BassalegCountyFan
  • Score: -4

11:49pm Thu 17 Jul 14

BassalegCountyFan says...

Llanmartinangel wrote:
Care to tell us how that debt came about Mr Dix? After 140 tax rises in thirteen years and apparently unprecedented prosperity by the 'no return to boom and bust' chancellor/PM. (Shame about the 'bust' then). We'll just have to console ourselves with the fact that we are now the fastest growing economy of any G8 nation and will have an even bigger economy than France by the end of the next parliament. Unless Labour win of course and squander it all again. I'm trying to recall which Labour back said 'growth is the way to beat the debt'.
Perhaps I'm missing something, but is the slowest, least wide-spread growth the country has ever seen really such a cause for celebration?

Osborne inherited growth from Labour, messed it up within a year(remember when we used to have a triple A credit rating?) and now that the economy is limping back - as in other Western countries - Gideon tries to tell us that he's saved the world . The British public aren't buying it, and even a tory MP from Kent this week admitted that growth hasn't moved out of the south-east.

We need a government that will invest in infrastructure and create jobs for young people, not a government that oversees a trebling in foodbank usage and a cost of living crisis while telling us that 'we're all in together'.

The tory lies are wearing thin. Another example of this - the biggest deficit in the Labour years before the crash was 3.3% of GDP, yet the Thatcher-Major governments racked up deficits greater than this in 10 of their 18 years. And Osborne calls other parties 'deficit deniers'? Much like Cameron's recent bizarre fictitious monologues at PMQ's, the figures don't add up for the boys in blue.
[quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: Care to tell us how that debt came about Mr Dix? After 140 tax rises in thirteen years and apparently unprecedented prosperity by the 'no return to boom and bust' chancellor/PM. (Shame about the 'bust' then). We'll just have to console ourselves with the fact that we are now the fastest growing economy of any G8 nation and will have an even bigger economy than France by the end of the next parliament. Unless Labour win of course and squander it all again. I'm trying to recall which Labour back said 'growth is the way to beat the debt'.[/p][/quote]Perhaps I'm missing something, but is the slowest, least wide-spread growth the country has ever seen really such a cause for celebration? Osborne inherited growth from Labour, messed it up within a year(remember when we used to have a triple A credit rating?) and now that the economy is limping back - as in other Western countries - Gideon tries to tell us that he's saved the world . The British public aren't buying it, and even a tory MP from Kent this week admitted that growth hasn't moved out of the south-east. We need a government that will invest in infrastructure and create jobs for young people, not a government that oversees a trebling in foodbank usage and a cost of living crisis while telling us that 'we're all in together'. The tory lies are wearing thin. Another example of this - the biggest deficit in the Labour years before the crash was 3.3% of GDP, yet the Thatcher-Major governments racked up deficits greater than this in 10 of their 18 years. And Osborne calls other parties 'deficit deniers'? Much like Cameron's recent bizarre fictitious monologues at PMQ's, the figures don't add up for the boys in blue. BassalegCountyFan
  • Score: -2

12:15am Fri 18 Jul 14

Llanmartinangel says...

temperate wrote:
The debt came about because Anthony Blair call me tony, took this country to war based on a dodgy dossier (Iraq) Blind subservience (Afghanistan) War in the Balkans or intervention in global conflicts to secure international peace and security through co-operation, as he called it.

Blair ordered the dropping of the largest tonnage of bombs of any British Prime Minister except Churchill.

Brown raised about 150 new taxes and employed 980,000 extra civil and public servants. That's where the money went, and that's why Britain is the mess it is today.

No Labour government has ever left office with the country richer than when it came to power. Look to the state of Wales under the Labour assembly, or the note left by The former chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne, stating, ''I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left,'' to his successor ...

Spare the nonsense and tell us why no money has been recovered from the senior managers of Caerphilly who received unlawful pay awards from Labour cabinet members. Tell us why Labour has not sacked any of the managers who have not paid back the unlawful car allowances or unlawful holiday payments.

While cutting £14.800,000 from services, tell us why Labour fails and fails again, tell us why Wales fails under Labour?
I could definitely not have put it better. Great post.
[quote][p][bold]temperate[/bold] wrote: The debt came about because Anthony Blair call me tony, took this country to war based on a dodgy dossier (Iraq) Blind subservience (Afghanistan) War in the Balkans or intervention in global conflicts to secure international peace and security through co-operation, as he called it. Blair ordered the dropping of the largest tonnage of bombs of any British Prime Minister except Churchill. Brown raised about 150 new taxes and employed 980,000 extra civil and public servants. That's where the money went, and that's why Britain is the mess it is today. No Labour government has ever left office with the country richer than when it came to power. Look to the state of Wales under the Labour assembly, or the note left by The former chief secretary to the Treasury, Liam Byrne, stating, ''I'm afraid to tell you there's no money left,'' to his successor ... Spare the nonsense and tell us why no money has been recovered from the senior managers of Caerphilly who received unlawful pay awards from Labour cabinet members. Tell us why Labour has not sacked any of the managers who have not paid back the unlawful car allowances or unlawful holiday payments. While cutting £14.800,000 from services, tell us why Labour fails and fails again, tell us why Wales fails under Labour?[/p][/quote]I could definitely not have put it better. Great post. Llanmartinangel
  • Score: 4

7:39am Fri 18 Jul 14

-trigg- says...

Mr Angry wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
Mr Angry wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
Care to tell us how that debt came about Mr Dix? After 140 tax rises in thirteen years and apparently unprecedented prosperity by the 'no return to boom and bust' chancellor/PM. (Shame about the 'bust' then). We'll just have to console ourselves with the fact that we are now the fastest growing economy of any G8 nation and will have an even bigger economy than France by the end of the next parliament. Unless Labour win of course and squander it all again. I'm trying to recall which Labour back said 'growth is the way to beat the debt'.
apparently the economy is doing well, then I'm puzzelled that 'plebs' like me who 'go to work every day and do the right thing' dont seem to be getting any benefit from it.
I agree. For the same reason I guess that under the last government, all those tax rises were aimed at working people (stamp duty, passenger duty, fuel duty, road fund, National Insurance etc), except the one in the last year of their13 year tenure which raised the 45 pence rate to 50 pence on top earners. Because we throw too may pounds at people who don't earn and it can only be got from those who do.
The point I am making is if the Economy is doing well, then some people are benefiting from this,but it aint me. If we all went in this together, shouldn't we all come out of it together.
The recovery hasn't really reached Wales yet by all accounts, but then you do need to factor in the drag factor of the Labour dominated WAG.
[quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mr Angry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: Care to tell us how that debt came about Mr Dix? After 140 tax rises in thirteen years and apparently unprecedented prosperity by the 'no return to boom and bust' chancellor/PM. (Shame about the 'bust' then). We'll just have to console ourselves with the fact that we are now the fastest growing economy of any G8 nation and will have an even bigger economy than France by the end of the next parliament. Unless Labour win of course and squander it all again. I'm trying to recall which Labour back said 'growth is the way to beat the debt'.[/p][/quote]apparently the economy is doing well, then I'm puzzelled that 'plebs' like me who 'go to work every day and do the right thing' dont seem to be getting any benefit from it.[/p][/quote]I agree. For the same reason I guess that under the last government, all those tax rises were aimed at working people (stamp duty, passenger duty, fuel duty, road fund, National Insurance etc), except the one in the last year of their13 year tenure which raised the 45 pence rate to 50 pence on top earners. Because we throw too may pounds at people who don't earn and it can only be got from those who do.[/p][/quote]The point I am making is if the Economy is doing well, then some people are benefiting from this,but it aint me. If we all went in this together, shouldn't we all come out of it together.[/p][/quote]The recovery hasn't really reached Wales yet by all accounts, but then you do need to factor in the drag factor of the Labour dominated WAG. -trigg-
  • Score: 4

9:14am Fri 18 Jul 14

mkaibear1 says...

BassalegCountyFan wrote:
Llanmartinangel wrote:
Care to tell us how that debt came about Mr Dix? After 140 tax rises in thirteen years and apparently unprecedented prosperity by the 'no return to boom and bust' chancellor/PM. (Shame about the 'bust' then). We'll just have to console ourselves with the fact that we are now the fastest growing economy of any G8 nation and will have an even bigger economy than France by the end of the next parliament. Unless Labour win of course and squander it all again. I'm trying to recall which Labour back said 'growth is the way to beat the debt'.
Perhaps I'm missing something, but is the slowest, least wide-spread growth the country has ever seen really such a cause for celebration?

Osborne inherited growth from Labour, messed it up within a year(remember when we used to have a triple A credit rating?) and now that the economy is limping back - as in other Western countries - Gideon tries to tell us that he's saved the world . The British public aren't buying it, and even a tory MP from Kent this week admitted that growth hasn't moved out of the south-east.

We need a government that will invest in infrastructure and create jobs for young people, not a government that oversees a trebling in foodbank usage and a cost of living crisis while telling us that 'we're all in together'.

The tory lies are wearing thin. Another example of this - the biggest deficit in the Labour years before the crash was 3.3% of GDP, yet the Thatcher-Major governments racked up deficits greater than this in 10 of their 18 years. And Osborne calls other parties 'deficit deniers'? Much like Cameron's recent bizarre fictitious monologues at PMQ's, the figures don't add up for the boys in blue.
The big issue is, at no point has Labour held their hand up and said "yeah, we kept spending money when it was coming in, we never planned for the inevitable crash". The government knew the writing was on the wall and yet they borrowed more in 2009 than Osborne has in any subsequent year (solely to throw money at projects to try to win the election - and it nearly worked, too!)

The financial crisis was not Labour's fault, per se. It was a fault of regulations on banks (which admittedly happened on their watch but I doubt the Tories would have done anything differently), but the crisis occurred because of world events - the thing that Labour failed to do was to prep for the crisis and "fix the roof whilst the sun shone".

So it's all very well to lay vitriol at the Tories and claim that they are also borrowing money, or claim that they are responsible for the financial problems the country faces, but until Labour faces up to what they did wrong in government the country isn't going to trust them again with the economy.
[quote][p][bold]BassalegCountyFan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Llanmartinangel[/bold] wrote: Care to tell us how that debt came about Mr Dix? After 140 tax rises in thirteen years and apparently unprecedented prosperity by the 'no return to boom and bust' chancellor/PM. (Shame about the 'bust' then). We'll just have to console ourselves with the fact that we are now the fastest growing economy of any G8 nation and will have an even bigger economy than France by the end of the next parliament. Unless Labour win of course and squander it all again. I'm trying to recall which Labour back said 'growth is the way to beat the debt'.[/p][/quote]Perhaps I'm missing something, but is the slowest, least wide-spread growth the country has ever seen really such a cause for celebration? Osborne inherited growth from Labour, messed it up within a year(remember when we used to have a triple A credit rating?) and now that the economy is limping back - as in other Western countries - Gideon tries to tell us that he's saved the world . The British public aren't buying it, and even a tory MP from Kent this week admitted that growth hasn't moved out of the south-east. We need a government that will invest in infrastructure and create jobs for young people, not a government that oversees a trebling in foodbank usage and a cost of living crisis while telling us that 'we're all in together'. The tory lies are wearing thin. Another example of this - the biggest deficit in the Labour years before the crash was 3.3% of GDP, yet the Thatcher-Major governments racked up deficits greater than this in 10 of their 18 years. And Osborne calls other parties 'deficit deniers'? Much like Cameron's recent bizarre fictitious monologues at PMQ's, the figures don't add up for the boys in blue.[/p][/quote]The big issue is, at no point has Labour held their hand up and said "yeah, we kept spending money when it was coming in, we never planned for the inevitable crash". The government knew the writing was on the wall and yet they borrowed more in 2009 than Osborne has in any subsequent year (solely to throw money at projects to try to win the election - and it nearly worked, too!) The financial crisis was not Labour's fault, per se. It was a fault of regulations on banks (which admittedly happened on their watch but I doubt the Tories would have done anything differently), but the crisis occurred because of world events - the thing that Labour failed to do was to prep for the crisis and "fix the roof whilst the sun shone". So it's all very well to lay vitriol at the Tories and claim that they are also borrowing money, or claim that they are responsible for the financial problems the country faces, but until Labour faces up to what they did wrong in government the country isn't going to trust them again with the economy. mkaibear1
  • Score: 4

10:16am Fri 18 Jul 14

landyman3030 says...

I think the previous 14 posts might give you a small crumb of an idea of what we think of your party and comments Cllr Dix.
Look forward to your next letter with bated breath.
Try posting something that doesn't make me spit my tea out with incredulous laughter next time huh?
I think the previous 14 posts might give you a small crumb of an idea of what we think of your party and comments Cllr Dix. Look forward to your next letter with bated breath. Try posting something that doesn't make me spit my tea out with incredulous laughter next time huh? landyman3030
  • Score: 4

3:30pm Fri 18 Jul 14

jimmytheone2 says...

landyman3030 wrote:
I think the previous 14 posts might give you a small crumb of an idea of what we think of your party and comments Cllr Dix.
Look forward to your next letter with bated breath.
Try posting something that doesn't make me spit my tea out with incredulous laughter next time huh?
I think he likes winding you up.
We all do. It's easy. Now Welshmen's gone a little quiet, you've taken his crown as the village idiot. People see your name and think "oh no, not him again - it's going to be the same old ignorant guff". And aren't they spot on.
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: I think the previous 14 posts might give you a small crumb of an idea of what we think of your party and comments Cllr Dix. Look forward to your next letter with bated breath. Try posting something that doesn't make me spit my tea out with incredulous laughter next time huh?[/p][/quote]I think he likes winding you up. We all do. It's easy. Now Welshmen's gone a little quiet, you've taken his crown as the village idiot. People see your name and think "oh no, not him again - it's going to be the same old ignorant guff". And aren't they spot on. jimmytheone2
  • Score: -3

3:40pm Fri 18 Jul 14

welshmen says...

jimmytheone2 wrote:
landyman3030 wrote:
I think the previous 14 posts might give you a small crumb of an idea of what we think of your party and comments Cllr Dix.
Look forward to your next letter with bated breath.
Try posting something that doesn't make me spit my tea out with incredulous laughter next time huh?
I think he likes winding you up.
We all do. It's easy. Now Welshmen's gone a little quiet, you've taken his crown as the village idiot. People see your name and think "oh no, not him again - it's going to be the same old ignorant guff". And aren't they spot on.
Still exercising your lonely old brain cell jimmynomates2....
[quote][p][bold]jimmytheone2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: I think the previous 14 posts might give you a small crumb of an idea of what we think of your party and comments Cllr Dix. Look forward to your next letter with bated breath. Try posting something that doesn't make me spit my tea out with incredulous laughter next time huh?[/p][/quote]I think he likes winding you up. We all do. It's easy. Now Welshmen's gone a little quiet, you've taken his crown as the village idiot. People see your name and think "oh no, not him again - it's going to be the same old ignorant guff". And aren't they spot on.[/p][/quote]Still exercising your lonely old brain cell jimmynomates2.... welshmen
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