Mixed up views

First published in Letters

RECENTLY, several right-wing letter writers (pretend anarchists) have criticised Israel’s (Jews) bombardment of the Gaza strip in Palestine, but curiously no mention of Hamas (Moslem) firing rockets into building tunnels to aid an invasion of that country.

The horrific nature of the conflict notwithstanding, I don’t think for one minute that these one-sided critics are closet members of the BNP. History has shown that the very extreme right are quite happy to stand by while both Moslems and Jews wipe each other off the face of the earth.

So, are they playing a double bluff? After all politics and poker have their similarities. No! I don’t think so; reading their mixed-up views M16 won’t be recruiting them anytime soon. They appear to be a sideline of the usual deluded rantings of the so-called socialists who are keen to use everybody else’s money except their own to solve the world’s problems.

A Greenhalgh, Ross Street, Newport

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1:09pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

The neo-Nazis who hijack the Palestinian cause also fail to mention the fact that under Hamas rule women do not have equal rights with men and homosexuality is punishable by death. They also neglect to mention that the Hamas Charter contains direct quotes from and direct references to that notorious anti-semitic conspiracy theory created in Tsarist Russia - 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion'. Since the Nazis camouflage is that bad it's no wonder that they lost WW2!
The neo-Nazis who hijack the Palestinian cause also fail to mention the fact that under Hamas rule women do not have equal rights with men and homosexuality is punishable by death. They also neglect to mention that the Hamas Charter contains direct quotes from and direct references to that notorious anti-semitic conspiracy theory created in Tsarist Russia - 'The Protocols of the Elders of Zion'. Since the Nazis camouflage is that bad it's no wonder that they lost WW2! Katie Re-Registered
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1:37pm Thu 7 Aug 14

diametric says...

The apologists for Hamas also fail to mention , how after attacking Israel, they took over civilian houses & fired rockets frm children's bedrooms, as well as schools & hospitals, aiming the rockets at Israeli homes.
The apologists for Hamas also fail to mention , how after attacking Israel, they took over civilian houses & fired rockets frm children's bedrooms, as well as schools & hospitals, aiming the rockets at Israeli homes. diametric
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6:00pm Thu 7 Aug 14

welshmen says...

Israel would want peace, Hamas will never accept peace, the Muslim faith is written that all Jews must be wiped out, they are all taught this from day 1, Iran would nuc them if they had that capability, how many times has Israel been attacked by Arab Islamic Factions? how many times has Israel attacked first? no matter what settlement is reached with Gaza the Islamic Ummah for the world will not stop....

.Where Islam is "Misunderstood."
For some very odd reason, the perfect religion of Islam
is routinely "misunderstood" each and every day.
Since 9/11, terrorism in the name of Allah occurs in:

India and the Sudan and Algeria and New York and Pakistan and Israel and Russia and Chechnya and the Philippines and Indonesia and Nigeria and England and Thailand and Spain and Egypt and Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia and Turkey and Morocco and Yemen and Arkansas and France and Uzbekistan and Gaza and Tunisia and Kosovo and Bosnia and Mauritania and Kenya and Eritrea and Syria and Somalia and California and Kuwait and Virginia and Ethiopia and Georgia and Jordan and United Arab Emirates and Louisiana and Texas and Tanzania and Illinois and Australia and Pennsylvania and Belgium and Denmark and East Timor and Qatar and Maryland and Tajikistan and the Netherlands and Afghanistan and Chad and Canada and China and Nepal and the Maldives and Argentina and Mali and Angola and the Ukraine and Uganda and North Carolina and Germany and Arizona and Lebanon and Iran and Kazakhstan and Sweden and Azerbaijan and Iraq and Scotland and Macedonia and Bulgaria and Cameroon and Massachusetts and Djibouti and...
...and pretty much wherever Islam is taken seriously:

"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who
are near to you, and let them find harshness in you,
and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty"
Qur'an, Sura 9:123.

Now if you all want to go along with Islam for the the UK, then be well prepared to pay their Tax (Jiheza) or move out, or hang around and be treated the way Christians are in Iraq, or do what we have always done repelled the threat, we are no different from anywhere else on the ummah war path....Vote UKIP....Get back control of our boarders....
Israel would want peace, Hamas will never accept peace, the Muslim faith is written that all Jews must be wiped out, they are all taught this from day 1, Iran would nuc them if they had that capability, how many times has Israel been attacked by Arab Islamic Factions? how many times has Israel attacked first? no matter what settlement is reached with Gaza the Islamic Ummah for the world will not stop.... .Where Islam is "Misunderstood." For some very odd reason, the perfect religion of Islam is routinely "misunderstood" each and every day. Since 9/11, terrorism in the name of Allah occurs in: India and the Sudan and Algeria and New York and Pakistan and Israel and Russia and Chechnya and the Philippines and Indonesia and Nigeria and England and Thailand and Spain and Egypt and Bangladesh and Saudi Arabia and Turkey and Morocco and Yemen and Arkansas and France and Uzbekistan and Gaza and Tunisia and Kosovo and Bosnia and Mauritania and Kenya and Eritrea and Syria and Somalia and California and Kuwait and Virginia and Ethiopia and Georgia and Jordan and United Arab Emirates and Louisiana and Texas and Tanzania and Illinois and Australia and Pennsylvania and Belgium and Denmark and East Timor and Qatar and Maryland and Tajikistan and the Netherlands and Afghanistan and Chad and Canada and China and Nepal and the Maldives and Argentina and Mali and Angola and the Ukraine and Uganda and North Carolina and Germany and Arizona and Lebanon and Iran and Kazakhstan and Sweden and Azerbaijan and Iraq and Scotland and Macedonia and Bulgaria and Cameroon and Massachusetts and Djibouti and... ...and pretty much wherever Islam is taken seriously: "O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty" Qur'an, Sura 9:123. Now if you all want to go along with Islam for the the UK, then be well prepared to pay their Tax (Jiheza) or move out, or hang around and be treated the way Christians are in Iraq, or do what we have always done repelled the threat, we are no different from anywhere else on the ummah war path....Vote UKIP....Get back control of our boarders.... welshmen
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7:15pm Thu 7 Aug 14

Super Shinobi says...

To the letter writer. I hate to break it to you, but it's the case that anti semitism has always classically belonged to the left. The holocaust denial of parties like Marine Le pen's Front Nationale, is entirely socialist. They believe in big government controling resources and isolationism. More state control.

In our parliament it's the left that want to use government power to affect what Palestine wants, and it is the left that sides with Muslim ethno centric interests, via it's candidates, and thier constituents voting habits to lways vote for more socialism.

On the streets it's the champagne socialists and Labour funded lobbyists, such as 'Hope not Hate' and 'Unite against fascism' that are to be found brandishing the green and black flags of jihad.

It's thoroughly in keeping with the twisted British idea of what anarchists are meant to stand for. I think it's more what they stand against. Anti monarchy, anti capitalism, anti free market, and similar.

Totally backwards of course, as tthat way lies more authoritarianism and less freedom.
To the letter writer. I hate to break it to you, but it's the case that anti semitism has always classically belonged to the left. The holocaust denial of parties like Marine Le pen's Front Nationale, is entirely socialist. They believe in big government controling resources and isolationism. More state control. In our parliament it's the left that want to use government power to affect what Palestine wants, and it is the left that sides with Muslim ethno centric interests, via it's candidates, and thier constituents voting habits to lways vote for more socialism. On the streets it's the champagne socialists and Labour funded lobbyists, such as 'Hope not Hate' and 'Unite against fascism' that are to be found brandishing the green and black flags of jihad. It's thoroughly in keeping with the twisted British idea of what anarchists are meant to stand for. I think it's more what they stand against. Anti monarchy, anti capitalism, anti free market, and similar. Totally backwards of course, as tthat way lies more authoritarianism and less freedom. Super Shinobi
  • Score: 0

9:58am Fri 8 Aug 14

welshmen says...

Super Shinobi wrote:
To the letter writer. I hate to break it to you, but it's the case that anti semitism has always classically belonged to the left. The holocaust denial of parties like Marine Le pen's Front Nationale, is entirely socialist. They believe in big government controling resources and isolationism. More state control.

In our parliament it's the left that want to use government power to affect what Palestine wants, and it is the left that sides with Muslim ethno centric interests, via it's candidates, and thier constituents voting habits to lways vote for more socialism.

On the streets it's the champagne socialists and Labour funded lobbyists, such as 'Hope not Hate' and 'Unite against fascism' that are to be found brandishing the green and black flags of jihad.

It's thoroughly in keeping with the twisted British idea of what anarchists are meant to stand for. I think it's more what they stand against. Anti monarchy, anti capitalism, anti free market, and similar.

Totally backwards of course, as tthat way lies more authoritarianism and less freedom.
That's about as true as it is, nice one....
[quote][p][bold]Super Shinobi[/bold] wrote: To the letter writer. I hate to break it to you, but it's the case that anti semitism has always classically belonged to the left. The holocaust denial of parties like Marine Le pen's Front Nationale, is entirely socialist. They believe in big government controling resources and isolationism. More state control. In our parliament it's the left that want to use government power to affect what Palestine wants, and it is the left that sides with Muslim ethno centric interests, via it's candidates, and thier constituents voting habits to lways vote for more socialism. On the streets it's the champagne socialists and Labour funded lobbyists, such as 'Hope not Hate' and 'Unite against fascism' that are to be found brandishing the green and black flags of jihad. It's thoroughly in keeping with the twisted British idea of what anarchists are meant to stand for. I think it's more what they stand against. Anti monarchy, anti capitalism, anti free market, and similar. Totally backwards of course, as tthat way lies more authoritarianism and less freedom.[/p][/quote]That's about as true as it is, nice one.... welshmen
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12:09pm Fri 8 Aug 14

Mervyn James says...

Do you not think there would be less violence, if the UK and USA stopped arming Israel to the teeth ? If Israel has a right to defend, then doesn't Palestine have the same right ? over a 1,000 of them were killed. Thus a 1,000 more families willing to support Hamas.....They cannot buy or import foods and medical necessities, or have any freedom of travel. Israel is punishing innocents and not Hamas, its not even a targeted war, but on anyone within firing range. It is clear Israel is well prepared to kill them all if necessary. They have to open borders, if people have nothing and nowhere to go or even to work or eat, then they will be ready recruits to fight Israelis. They must talk at some point, and must compromise. The UK has to stop being complicit too, they sent a few million to Palestine, a paltry sum, and hardly any cream off their arms sales profits to Israel. We wonder WHY the USA supplies Israel given they oppose the USA's plea for peace,and, Israel is up to its eyes in debt to the USA as well, one could well suspect the USA/UK has ulterior motives in 'defending' Israel against an 'enemy' who has little or no capability to fight back and who mostly, appear to be women and children sheltering in UN 'safe' schools.
Do you not think there would be less violence, if the UK and USA stopped arming Israel to the teeth ? If Israel has a right to defend, then doesn't Palestine have the same right ? over a 1,000 of them were killed. Thus a 1,000 more families willing to support Hamas.....They cannot buy or import foods and medical necessities, or have any freedom of travel. Israel is punishing innocents and not Hamas, its not even a targeted war, but on anyone within firing range. It is clear Israel is well prepared to kill them all if necessary. They have to open borders, if people have nothing and nowhere to go or even to work or eat, then they will be ready recruits to fight Israelis. They must talk at some point, and must compromise. The UK has to stop being complicit too, they sent a few million to Palestine, a paltry sum, and hardly any cream off their arms sales profits to Israel. We wonder WHY the USA supplies Israel given they oppose the USA's plea for peace,and, Israel is up to its eyes in debt to the USA as well, one could well suspect the USA/UK has ulterior motives in 'defending' Israel against an 'enemy' who has little or no capability to fight back and who mostly, appear to be women and children sheltering in UN 'safe' schools. Mervyn James
  • Score: -2

5:14pm Sat 9 Aug 14

varteg1 says...

welshmen wrote:
Super Shinobi wrote:
To the letter writer. I hate to break it to you, but it's the case that anti semitism has always classically belonged to the left. The holocaust denial of parties like Marine Le pen's Front Nationale, is entirely socialist. They believe in big government controling resources and isolationism. More state control.

In our parliament it's the left that want to use government power to affect what Palestine wants, and it is the left that sides with Muslim ethno centric interests, via it's candidates, and thier constituents voting habits to lways vote for more socialism.

On the streets it's the champagne socialists and Labour funded lobbyists, such as 'Hope not Hate' and 'Unite against fascism' that are to be found brandishing the green and black flags of jihad.

It's thoroughly in keeping with the twisted British idea of what anarchists are meant to stand for. I think it's more what they stand against. Anti monarchy, anti capitalism, anti free market, and similar.

Totally backwards of course, as tthat way lies more authoritarianism and less freedom.
That's about as true as it is, nice one....
It seems you know nothing of the French NF.

It is NOT a socialist party, look it up. Try getting things right befire making yourself look idiotic.

Any opposition to fascism has been mainly from the left, from the founding fathers , the Tolpuddle martyrs, through the international brigade that took on Franco, even Oliver Cromwell realised the folly of mistreating Jews, so he opened the doors to European Jews, guaranteeing them freedom in all it's aspects in England, whilst across the Channel they were being subjected to pogrom after pogrom.
As for the 'free market' look at the state of the global financial structure, and you think the 'free market' is a good thing eh?

Even leading capitalists are now revising the way they do business, as they now recognise their laissez fair marketeering has brought capital into disrepute. With ever larger sums of capital escaping out of the economies on which it relies for perpetuation, into a diminishing group of major funds, invariably lodged in places that are untouchable by the very economies where those funds were generated,

and what is wrong with being anti monarchy? the monarchy is an anachronism, and many on the right wing of the political spectrum are committed republicans, who would prefer we went down the path to ridding ourselves of the institution.

Authoritarianism? could we get any more so as under the present government? It pretends to be opting for smaller government, but is just fiddling at the edges of the control freak mentality this nation is obsessed with.

Come back when you have studied the matter you complain about, I don't expect a retraction, but I do expect you to see that the 'left' you castigate is actually the 'right'. And wrong on every count.
[quote][p][bold]welshmen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Super Shinobi[/bold] wrote: To the letter writer. I hate to break it to you, but it's the case that anti semitism has always classically belonged to the left. The holocaust denial of parties like Marine Le pen's Front Nationale, is entirely socialist. They believe in big government controling resources and isolationism. More state control. In our parliament it's the left that want to use government power to affect what Palestine wants, and it is the left that sides with Muslim ethno centric interests, via it's candidates, and thier constituents voting habits to lways vote for more socialism. On the streets it's the champagne socialists and Labour funded lobbyists, such as 'Hope not Hate' and 'Unite against fascism' that are to be found brandishing the green and black flags of jihad. It's thoroughly in keeping with the twisted British idea of what anarchists are meant to stand for. I think it's more what they stand against. Anti monarchy, anti capitalism, anti free market, and similar. Totally backwards of course, as tthat way lies more authoritarianism and less freedom.[/p][/quote]That's about as true as it is, nice one....[/p][/quote]It seems you know nothing of the French NF. It is NOT a socialist party, look it up. Try getting things right befire making yourself look idiotic. Any opposition to fascism has been mainly from the left, from the founding fathers , the Tolpuddle martyrs, through the international brigade that took on Franco, even Oliver Cromwell realised the folly of mistreating Jews, so he opened the doors to European Jews, guaranteeing them freedom in all it's aspects in England, whilst across the Channel they were being subjected to pogrom after pogrom. As for the 'free market' look at the state of the global financial structure, and you think the 'free market' is a good thing eh? Even leading capitalists are now revising the way they do business, as they now recognise their laissez fair marketeering has brought capital into disrepute. With ever larger sums of capital escaping out of the economies on which it relies for perpetuation, into a diminishing group of major funds, invariably lodged in places that are untouchable by the very economies where those funds were generated, and what is wrong with being anti monarchy? the monarchy is an anachronism, and many on the right wing of the political spectrum are committed republicans, who would prefer we went down the path to ridding ourselves of the institution. Authoritarianism? could we get any more so as under the present government? It pretends to be opting for smaller government, but is just fiddling at the edges of the control freak mentality this nation is obsessed with. Come back when you have studied the matter you complain about, I don't expect a retraction, but I do expect you to see that the 'left' you castigate is actually the 'right'. And wrong on every count. varteg1
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