Doctor prices

First published in Letters

I READ with horror Lord Winston’s suggestion that people should pay up to £200 for a doctors appointment. Is this rich bloke aware that a lot pensioners and working poor are lucky if their weekly income is this? Get real. Old age pension is less than this, we paid contributions called National Insurance, most of us in excess of 50 years for this. A far more sensible suggestion would be to charge people for missing appointments and clamp down on health tourists. Do as they do in Europe, get credit-card details before treating them and get rid of all the useless quangos, put power back in the hands of doctors and nurses and stop American hedge funds and drug companies taking over the NHS by stealth. Return it to founding principles, treat the sick not boob jobs and gastric bands for fatties.

A Poyser, Stockton Road, Newport

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1:38pm Thu 14 Aug 14

Katie Re-Registered says...

Totally agree. There should also be an investigation into disturbing claims that the NHS is putting 'Do Not Resuscitate' notes on dementia patients records in order to save money by not having to pay for their care instead of doing it in the patients' best interests. If you look up the medications that big pharma markets many of the so-called 'side effects' of these mimic dementia which could lead to misdiagnosis and previously healthy patients being put on 'end of life/palliative care plans'. It's also as well to remember that there is still some debate as to whether anesthesia and other forms of sedatives actually exacerbate or even cause dementias.
Totally agree. There should also be an investigation into disturbing claims that the NHS is putting 'Do Not Resuscitate' notes on dementia patients records in order to save money by not having to pay for their care instead of doing it in the patients' best interests. If you look up the medications that big pharma markets many of the so-called 'side effects' of these mimic dementia which could lead to misdiagnosis and previously healthy patients being put on 'end of life/palliative care plans'. It's also as well to remember that there is still some debate as to whether anesthesia and other forms of sedatives actually exacerbate or even cause dementias. Katie Re-Registered
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9:22am Fri 15 Aug 14

Mervyn James says...

Does anyone know if the recent ofsted approach in England, of censuring and even closing down GP surgeries that are poor, applies to Wales ? And can patients provide lists of surgeries that badly treated them without legal threats ? I already put my local surgery on a 6 month ultimatum to proved proper access for those with hearing loss, and anyone can do that. The time limit for compliance s 6 months plus 1 day, if your surgery fails to comply then you can sue them under the law.
Does anyone know if the recent ofsted approach in England, of censuring and even closing down GP surgeries that are poor, applies to Wales ? And can patients provide lists of surgeries that badly treated them without legal threats ? I already put my local surgery on a 6 month ultimatum to proved proper access for those with hearing loss, and anyone can do that. The time limit for compliance s 6 months plus 1 day, if your surgery fails to comply then you can sue them under the law. Mervyn James
  • Score: 1

4:20pm Fri 15 Aug 14

landyman3030 says...

In my surgery the average weekly rate of missed appointments is about 70. Estimate a 10 minute period for each one and you soon arrive at the fact that one Doctor is sat twiddling with his/her stethoscope for a twelve hour shift without a break weekly. With breaks and other duties it's more like two days a week is wasted. Ridiculous when it can usually take two weeks to get an appointment which is also part of the problem. Patients are either dead or better by the time the appointment comes around so just forget about it.
A small charge of say a fiver would make people think a bit more maybe but how do you collect it?
Bailiff? That puts £75 on to the bill per visit. Something must be done though.
In my surgery the average weekly rate of missed appointments is about 70. Estimate a 10 minute period for each one and you soon arrive at the fact that one Doctor is sat twiddling with his/her stethoscope for a twelve hour shift without a break weekly. With breaks and other duties it's more like two days a week is wasted. Ridiculous when it can usually take two weeks to get an appointment which is also part of the problem. Patients are either dead or better by the time the appointment comes around so just forget about it. A small charge of say a fiver would make people think a bit more maybe but how do you collect it? Bailiff? That puts £75 on to the bill per visit. Something must be done though. landyman3030
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10:25am Sun 17 Aug 14

Mervyn James says...

landyman3030 wrote:
In my surgery the average weekly rate of missed appointments is about 70. Estimate a 10 minute period for each one and you soon arrive at the fact that one Doctor is sat twiddling with his/her stethoscope for a twelve hour shift without a break weekly. With breaks and other duties it's more like two days a week is wasted. Ridiculous when it can usually take two weeks to get an appointment which is also part of the problem. Patients are either dead or better by the time the appointment comes around so just forget about it.
A small charge of say a fiver would make people think a bit more maybe but how do you collect it?
Bailiff? That puts £75 on to the bill per visit. Something must be done though.
There are patients GP's simply won't provide with access to attend any consultation. My area the deaf is one of them, we will be hoping many of our sector will issue their GP with the legal ultimatum which requires ALL GP's to provide appropriate access deaf ad hearing impaired patients need to follow. Which incidentally, means you contact your GP tell them what access you need and unless that is in place in 6 months plus 1 day, legal action can be taken to censure a surgery, which deaf are saying should also mean automatic notification the surgery is bad and put on the 'hit list' of those told to shape up or close down. We feel after 70 years it is about time the health area recognized all patients are not the same. We've not had effective 'global' access to any 999 situation in years, and its still piecemeal, little wonder e.g. deaf patients decide it is a waste of time attending a consultation which they won't be able to follow. So you get taken ill, just whee do you go for communication support in that situation ? An ambulance won't have it, A GP won't be able to communicate, A&E won't have it, Minor Injury units have no contacts,and even a prolonged hospital stay may well not provide it. As it is not a single health trust in all Wales has complied with a welsh assembly directive to do it. AB made some attempt but only with one area of hearing loss, which in effect put them in the discriminating area by excluding others. It's an unhealthy shambles but our sector has paid the ultimate price 3 times already in S Wales.
[quote][p][bold]landyman3030[/bold] wrote: In my surgery the average weekly rate of missed appointments is about 70. Estimate a 10 minute period for each one and you soon arrive at the fact that one Doctor is sat twiddling with his/her stethoscope for a twelve hour shift without a break weekly. With breaks and other duties it's more like two days a week is wasted. Ridiculous when it can usually take two weeks to get an appointment which is also part of the problem. Patients are either dead or better by the time the appointment comes around so just forget about it. A small charge of say a fiver would make people think a bit more maybe but how do you collect it? Bailiff? That puts £75 on to the bill per visit. Something must be done though.[/p][/quote]There are patients GP's simply won't provide with access to attend any consultation. My area the deaf is one of them, we will be hoping many of our sector will issue their GP with the legal ultimatum which requires ALL GP's to provide appropriate access deaf ad hearing impaired patients need to follow. Which incidentally, means you contact your GP tell them what access you need and unless that is in place in 6 months plus 1 day, legal action can be taken to censure a surgery, which deaf are saying should also mean automatic notification the surgery is bad and put on the 'hit list' of those told to shape up or close down. We feel after 70 years it is about time the health area recognized all patients are not the same. We've not had effective 'global' access to any 999 situation in years, and its still piecemeal, little wonder e.g. deaf patients decide it is a waste of time attending a consultation which they won't be able to follow. So you get taken ill, just whee do you go for communication support in that situation ? An ambulance won't have it, A GP won't be able to communicate, A&E won't have it, Minor Injury units have no contacts,and even a prolonged hospital stay may well not provide it. As it is not a single health trust in all Wales has complied with a welsh assembly directive to do it. AB made some attempt but only with one area of hearing loss, which in effect put them in the discriminating area by excluding others. It's an unhealthy shambles but our sector has paid the ultimate price 3 times already in S Wales. Mervyn James
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